Wikisource:Scriptorium/Help
Rename source file
[edit]When uploading File:2024 Legislative Supplements Acts Supplement 39.pdf, I forget to rename the source file name. Can someone help to change that file's name into File:Multinational Enterprise (Minimum Tax) Act 2024.pdf? I would also like to know if there are generic template to request file name change, thank you.廣九直通車 (talk) 10:04, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
- Moved. You can always request a move in the Scriptorium in the "Repairs (and moves)" section. MarkLSteadman (talk) 15:30, 28 November 2024 (UTC)
Error: Invalid Interval
[edit]I've uploaded a PDF file to wikimedia commons. I've tried to make an index page for the file so I can translate it into english and improve the readability of its current ocr transcript. I would like some advice and help on how to resolve it and get to working on the next steps. The index is Index:Mizo Chanchin - Liangkhaia.pdf and the file is"File:Mizo Chanchin - Liangkhaia.pdf". I'm new to wikisource so apologies for any oversights. Mmis325 (talk) 08:03, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Oh, it seems to have the pages indexed now, I'm not sure why it was the case. Is there a delay for it? Mmis325 (talk) 08:09, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, we sometimes have a delay—particularly with pdf files. It can be up to 24 hours. Glad it was shorter for you this time. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:25, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Mmis325: It usually helps if you purge the cache of the file in Commons (in the "More" at the top), and then also purge the cache of the file here in Wikisource (in the "Tools" at the top). --Jan Kameníček (talk) 14:53, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Weekly Weather and Crop Bulletin
[edit]This series of works are made by the Agricultural Marketing Service, meaning they are in the Public Domain. I'm just wondering if text versions of these could be published here? IAmMrE (talk) 15:41, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- IAmMrE: Anything {{PD-US-Gov}} or a subset thereof, is welcomed and even encouraged to be here.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 16:17, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! However, I can't upload the PDFs to Commons as I'm a new user. Could you upload them? They're located here if you're wondering. IAmMrE (talk) 19:48, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- IAmMrE: the pdf(s) are now located at commons:Category:USDA Weekly Weather and Crop Bulletin--RaboKarbakian (talk) 12:12, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! However, I can't upload the PDFs to Commons as I'm a new user. Could you upload them? They're located here if you're wondering. IAmMrE (talk) 19:48, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- I created the first index. That file does not contain the ocr layer, (the hidden text that many pdf have). There is an ocr button (on the right, the large pulsing blue thing that appears if you have not disable the toolbar) that will provide this text or, if you would like, I can ocr them and reupload, although, at this point in time, I can only make djvu files (not pdf)
- So, let me know if you want the texts ocr'd and anything else you might need. Also questions, ask them. Here or on my talk page.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 14:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! However, I'm fine with it as it currently is. IAmMrE 18:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- So, let me know if you want the texts ocr'd and anything else you might need. Also questions, ask them. Here or on my talk page.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 14:00, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
Hi there, would anyone have any idea why this transcription project page on Latin Wikisource is returning Error: Invalid interval
for the page list? The page list is just <pagelist />
JimKillock (talk) 18:09, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps it is the same as above? I'll wait a bit I guess. JimKillock (talk) 18:10, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Most of the time (though not above), the invalid interval problem can be fixed by purging the file and then the index. Here it worked. — Alien 3
3 3 18:15, 14 December 2024 (UTC)- Thanks very much! JimKillock (talk) 20:36, 14 December 2024 (UTC)
- Most of the time (though not above), the invalid interval problem can be fixed by purging the file and then the index. Here it worked. — Alien 3
Force justification
[edit]Hi there, looking at the template:Justify, is there any way to achieve "force justification", ie for a word or number of words to align both left and right, regardless of the length of the sentence? This is often used in typography within books, eg this page, where
N I C O L A I
is spread across the width of the page. JimKillock (talk) 16:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- There's a bit of CSS trickery that can achieve this apparently. JimKillock (talk) 21:48, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
- Anyone any thoughts? Or is the just too hard to implement? JimKillock (talk) 15:56, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- For multiple words in a single line, use the
align-last
parameter of {{justify}}. For a single word (or for letter spacing with multiple words) it's a bit harder -- CSS hastext-justify
but it doesn't seem to be well implemented by browsers. Assuming you don't want to put spaces between every letter, the portable CSS-only solution seems to be wrapping every letter in a span and then applying a flexbox to the whole thing, or you could just fiddle with {{lsp}} until it looks right (this is what I would do). Arcorann (talk) 23:41, 16 December 2024 (UTC)- Great, thank you, I will give those a try! JimKillock (talk) 12:40, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- For multiple words in a single line, use the
- Anyone any thoughts? Or is the just too hard to implement? JimKillock (talk) 15:56, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Template include size is exceeded
[edit]On Roberts-Smith v Fairfax Media Publications Pty Limited (No 41) (2023, FCA), it says "template include size is exceeded" causing templates to not load towards the end of the page. This almost certainly due to the length of the judgment, or maybe how many templates are used? How could this be fixed? DraftSaturn15 (talk) 01:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- @DraftSaturn15: Given its 300+-page length, I would say the best solution is to consolidate it into subpages by section. Lua etc. doesn't tend to like it when a page is this long. SnowyCinema (talk) 02:09, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks SnowyCinema. If I could get your help with an issue I am having with partially transcluding page 7 of the judgment. I followed the documentation on Help:Transclusion for transcluding part of that page but it does not seemed to have worked. The judge's name, heading, and first three paragraphs of Part 1 are still appearing on the main page after the contents. I have
## part1 ##
in page 7 andtosection=part1
in the transclusion tag. Same has also happened at the end of Part 2. DraftSaturn15 (talk) 04:20, 16 December 2024 (UTC)- DraftSaturn15:
tosection
includes everything on the page up to and including the contents of that section. So, by using that, you told it to transclude the entirety of part2 and all of part1 on that page, rather than just part2. I have fixed this by adding sections for##contents##
and##part2##
at the top of those two pages. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 05:01, 16 December 2024 (UTC)- Thank you very much, TE(æ)A,ea. DraftSaturn15 (talk) 05:43, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- DraftSaturn15:
- Thanks SnowyCinema. If I could get your help with an issue I am having with partially transcluding page 7 of the judgment. I followed the documentation on Help:Transclusion for transcluding part of that page but it does not seemed to have worked. The judge's name, heading, and first three paragraphs of Part 1 are still appearing on the main page after the contents. I have
Indent paragraphs?
[edit]It's been a long time since I was active here, so what's the rule for indenting paragraphs when the original has them indented? I'm looking at War of the Classes right now. Here is an example: https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page%3AWar_of_the_Classes_-_London_-_1905.djvu/28 -- Valjean (talk) 18:47, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Valjean: If the indentation doesn’t have any meaning other than to indicate the beginning of a paragraph, it’s not replicated, as in your case. If there is a larger indent to show some sort of break, or a hanging indent for a similar purpose, we have templates to replicate them, but the standard printer’s paragraph indent is not replicated. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 19:05, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. -- Valjean (talk) 19:10, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Need help moving page to Translation namespace
[edit]Hello, I just translated 2024 Declaration of Martial Law in the Republic of Korea but I don't know how to move the page into the Translation: namespace. Can someone help me? Thanks. Reepy1 (talk) 08:19, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done as requested. SnowyCinema (talk) 08:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Transcluding sections
[edit]I'm working on An Introduction to the Devout Life, and I wanted to check my work. This is the first work I have worked on where I used "sections", and clearly I am doing something wrong. At my sandbox, I tried to transclude chapter 6 of section 1, and it's not working. I used <pages index="An Introduction to the Devout Life (1885 edition).djvu" from=37 to=39 fromsection="1-6" tosection="1-7" /> , but it's including the first part of chapter 7. What am I doing wrong? —FPTI (talk) 04:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- You are using the "Easy LST" gadget, right? (with ##section##). It doesn't mean what you think it does. It expands to: <section begin="section"/> at the place where you used ##section##, plus <section end="section"/>, either right before the next ##section##, or at the end of the article.
- The fromsection parameter only looks for a section begin, and tosection only uses a section end. Thus, it selects from the begin="1-6" on page 37, to the end="1-7" on page 39. However, the end="1-7" is not at the ## 1-7 ##, it is at the end of /39. So it takes /39 to its end. To fix this, you could:
- On page 39, put ##1-7## at the top, and ##1-8## right before the title. What will matter are the
<section end="1-7"/><section begin="1-8"/>
that will be before the title. - Or, just not use the "Easy LST" gadget, which I find counter-intuitive, and manually enter
<section ...="..."/>
in the wanted places.
- On page 39, put ##1-7## at the top, and ##1-8## right before the title. What will matter are the
- — Alien 3
3 3 06:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Including text in ToC
[edit]...but have it formatted as regular text, not as a heading.
Can this be done? Is there a template for it, or would it just use HTML code? Thanks, Polomo47 (talk) 15:12, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- I am finding it difficult to understand what you are asking. Perhaps you can provide a link to the ToC in question? A generic answer to this might be: you can make a table and not use the toc templates.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 16:09, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, what I'm trying to do is really simple, so I couldn't find a way to explain it better. I'll try again.
- I have text with no headings, but with clearly separated sections, so I want the ToC to link to each section without actually putting headings there.
- By ToC, I mean the default one that shows up on the sidebar. Polomo47 (talk) 16:19, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- No, you can't add text to that TOC. Why do you want to? That text probably should go somewhere else — Alien 3
3 3 16:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
- No, you can't add text to that TOC. Why do you want to? That text probably should go somewhere else — Alien 3
Please help me move my sandbox to where it belongs.
[edit]Someone notified me that I have a page at Laura1822/sandbox which should be at User:Laura1822/sandbox. The Move Page won't let me move it because it says there is already a page there. I blanked the page, but it still would not move. So I copied/pasted, and now I need to delete the old page. I can't find how to do that. Will someone with access please delete it for me? Sorry for the mistake. Laura1822 (talk) 21:59, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Added courtesy links. Moving now to User:Laura1822/sandbox2: you can have an indefinite number of sandboxes. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:08, 22 December 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you!!! Laura1822 (talk) 16:01, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Archiving newspapers
[edit]I'm currently interested in archiving PD newspaper issues from the Internet Archive. However, I'm not sure how newspaper issues are formatted here. Could someone help me? One of the newspapers that I want to format is here for the interested. IAmMrE (talk) 17:04, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- IAmMrE: Owing to the difficulty involved in transcribing entire issues, we don’t have many, but The New York Times/1918/11/11 and Saturday Evening Gazette/June 7, 1856 are good examples. Most works are in form of
Title/Volume X/Number Y/Article
, but that is usually not done for newspapers as the dates are generally more important than the volume and issue numbers (for example, in these instances, The New York Times/Volume 68/Number 22206 or Saturday Evening Gazette/Volume 23/Number 2127). TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 17:17, 23 December 2024 (UTC)- Thanks for the help! IAmMrE (talk) 17:19, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting. When I create the index file, the page list doesn't work. IAmMrE (talk) 19:32, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @IAmMrE I have purged the file, first on Commons, and then on Wikisource, and the index file is now displaying the page list. If you ever need to purge (refresh) a file, and there is no purge option in the drop down list of "More" actions, you can type ?action=purge at the end of the html for a given webpage, e.g. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/File:Santa_Fe_New_Mexican_10-12-1911.pdf?action=purge, press enter, and then it should allow you to purge the page. Regards, TeysaKarlov (talk) 20:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- I see now. Thanks! IAmMrE (talk) 21:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
- @IAmMrE I have purged the file, first on Commons, and then on Wikisource, and the index file is now displaying the page list. If you ever need to purge (refresh) a file, and there is no purge option in the drop down list of "More" actions, you can type ?action=purge at the end of the html for a given webpage, e.g. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/File:Santa_Fe_New_Mexican_10-12-1911.pdf?action=purge, press enter, and then it should allow you to purge the page. Regards, TeysaKarlov (talk) 20:25, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Problem regarding sidenotes
[edit]Hello, I'm a contributor to the Portuguse Wikisource, where we didn’t have a side note template. I was eager to finish a book that includes some marginal notes. Since I don’t know advanced CSS/HTML or Lua, I simply copied and pasted the Template:Sidenote and its child Template:Sidenotes begin into the Portuguese Wikisource. You can see it here. However, after setting everything up, nothing happened.
The margins on the right and left are created with the Template:Sidenotes begin equivalent, but the text remains in the main body—it’s just smaller.
I assume I need to adjust something in the overall layout of the Wiki, but I’m not sure. Perhaps I’m wrong. Does anyone know how to fix this? I would be really grateful!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! :D (I apologize if this isn’t the right place for this, but I couldn’t find a more suitable one) Junglk (talk) 19:35, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Here it’s an example Junglk (talk) 19:39, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Bem-vindo. This may be a silly question, but did you only view it in the Page namespace or did you also view it in the transcluded Main namespace? The way that it appears here differs depending on the namespace. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I just tested it in the Page namespace. Should I test it in the Main namespace as well? Here, the sidenote seems fine in the Page namespace, so I assumed that if it’s wrong in the Page namespace, it’s not working. Junglk (talk) 20:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's worth trying. If that works, then it works. If not, then I'm fresh out of ideas. Unfortunately, importing templates is a real pain. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I just tested it, and it doesn't work at all... Page namespace and here the Main namespace Junglk (talk) 20:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Junglk my guess is that there is a missing stylesheet somewhere. {{Sidenote}} mentions 2! Maybe try adding Template:Sidenote, Template:Sidenote/styles.css, and Template:Sidenote/styles page ns.css to pt:ws, as the beginning and end templates refer to this.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 14:42, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- I already created both .css pages. No idea what can it be 😭 Junglk (talk) 15:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- The sidenote handling here is also partly an implementation inside Pagenum.js which is specfic to English Wikisource. It's not necessarily implented on other Wikisource in the same way ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 15:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I already created both .css pages. No idea what can it be 😭 Junglk (talk) 15:00, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
- Junglk my guess is that there is a missing stylesheet somewhere. {{Sidenote}} mentions 2! Maybe try adding Template:Sidenote, Template:Sidenote/styles.css, and Template:Sidenote/styles page ns.css to pt:ws, as the beginning and end templates refer to this.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 14:42, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
- I just tested it, and it doesn't work at all... Page namespace and here the Main namespace Junglk (talk) 20:23, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- It's worth trying. If that works, then it works. If not, then I'm fresh out of ideas. Unfortunately, importing templates is a real pain. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:15, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- I just tested it in the Page namespace. Should I test it in the Main namespace as well? Here, the sidenote seems fine in the Page namespace, so I assumed that if it’s wrong in the Page namespace, it’s not working. Junglk (talk) 20:04, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
- Bem-vindo. This may be a silly question, but did you only view it in the Page namespace or did you also view it in the transcluded Main namespace? The way that it appears here differs depending on the namespace. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Technical problems about Luigi Mangione federal complaint
[edit]In Luigi Mangione federal complaint, images in pages 5 and 6 contain red circles indicating Luigi Mangione's location. I tried to use {{Overfloat image}} to achieve the effect, and it looked well in edit preview, but the circles simply won't align when the edits are formally published. I would like to know what is the problem?廣九直通車 (talk) 05:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- {{Overfloat image}} positions the items relative to the edges of the container. It is often a good idea to constrain the width of the container to that of the image, because if you don't the width of the container changes on transclusion, and the items don't end up in the same places. I did that, it should be fixed now. — Alien 3
3 3 10:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)- I see, so in general, you can use the background image size in
width=
? I think when I entered something different, it returned a very small image.廣九直通車 (talk) 12:02, 27 December 2024 (UTC)- Yes, you can put it in the width parameter, though you should remember to remove the "px" at the end. — Alien 3
3 3 12:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, you can put it in the width parameter, though you should remember to remove the "px" at the end. — Alien 3
- I see, so in general, you can use the background image size in
Having trouble with tosection
[edit]It won't stop the include at the designated section marker. I've checked and rechecked the section headers at the terminal page. I have no idea why I can't get it to work. Hylton v. United States. ---- Foofighter20x (talk) 06:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- The section end marker was missing, which I've added. However, I'm not sure where you want the transclusion to end. If you want it to stop before section 3US184-1, then you need to use the section name of the last piece you want to include as the "tosection". Beeswaxcandle (talk) 06:41, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- The correct termination point should be after the word affirmed and before the double rule that divides the end of Hylton from the the next case, Hill v. Ross. ---- Foofighter20x (talk) 07:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Fixed. I've changed the location of the "cushing" section end and changed the tosection to match. Hopefully, that makes sense. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:12, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- The correct termination point should be after the word affirmed and before the double rule that divides the end of Hylton from the the next case, Hill v. Ross. ---- Foofighter20x (talk) 07:00, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Subchapters or chapters
[edit]I'm currently working on transcribing The "Ulithi" Encyclopedia here. As I'm done with the Table of Contents, I just want to ask, should it be transcribed in the future using the chapters or subchapters? IAmMrE (talk) 14:19, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'd go with chapters, since they're not very long. —CalendulaAsteraceae (talk • contribs) 15:21, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Language interlink
[edit]Hello. Please help to make an interlink between this entry:
https://es.wikisource.org/wiki/Un_puesto_de_chía_en_Semana_Santa
and this entry:
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_chía_stand_during_Holy_Week
Thank you! Rauzoi (talk) 22:40, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Done, but for a translation by a wikisource user (which this appears to be):
- It should be in the translation namespace (I moved it)
- The original version should have a compatible license (to make sure it can be included)
- And it must have a source (a scanned source would be much better, but it's not yet mandatory)
- The Spanish Wikisource page appears to have neither of the last two. Could you please add them? Thanks, — Alien 3
3 3 09:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Error: Invalid interval (2)
[edit]Index:The English Reports v1 1900.pdf Is there any guidance on how to set the pagelist? What I've been able to find so far hasn't helped. Foofighter20x (talk) 13:59, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
- Should be OK now. It usually helps if you purge the cache of the file in Commons (in the "More" at the top), and then also purge the cache of the file here in Wikisource (in the "Tools" at the top). Sometimes purging the cache of the Index page may be needed too. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 14:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Help with links
[edit]I was trying to get a page from the New Students Reference Work proofread, where I came across a slight issue. I was trying to link to the article we had in the mainspace for Fitz-Greene Halleck, and it did so, but the second link doesn't display as "Fitz=Greene", the way it should. Any help? CitationsFreak (talk) 08:19, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- In templates, x=y gives value y to argument x, instead of giving value "x=y" to an anonymous arguments. To solve this, either escape the equals with the parser function {{=}}, or explicitly name the numbered parameter (in this case 2=Fitz=Greene, which means that you give value "Fitz=Greene" to argument 2, which is what you wanted.) — Alien 3
3 3 08:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
File not mirroring wikisource
[edit]I recently uploaded c:File:Fairy tales, now first collected by Joseph Ritson.djvu, but File:Fairy tales, now first collected by Joseph Ritson.djvu isn't mirroring it, for some reason. Eievie (talk) 11:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- This is a fairly common issue and is solved by repeatedly purging the page. Should work now. There is a gadget you can add if you want to have easier access to purging. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 11:35, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- I'm having this situation again with File:The History and Description of the Isle of Man.djvu. Even after purging it dozens of times, it's still not fixing. Is it expected to be like 15 purges, or 50 purges, or 500s, or...? Eievie (talk) 22:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- A few should do it. It displays correctly at Commons, but purging the local copy at https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=File:The_History_and_Description_of_the_Isle_of_Man.djvu&action=purge did the trick for me. Is it displaying for you? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- It started working right as soon as you messaged this Eievie (talk) 22:30, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- In general, purge the file at commons, then purge the local copy, then bypass your browser cache (w:WP:BYPASS) for the index, and it should do it. — Alien 3
3 3 07:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- In general, purge the file at commons, then purge the local copy, then bypass your browser cache (w:WP:BYPASS) for the index, and it should do it. — Alien 3
- It started working right as soon as you messaged this Eievie (talk) 22:30, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- A few should do it. It displays correctly at Commons, but purging the local copy at https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=File:The_History_and_Description_of_the_Isle_of_Man.djvu&action=purge did the trick for me. Is it displaying for you? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:29, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'm having this situation again with File:The History and Description of the Isle of Man.djvu. Even after purging it dozens of times, it's still not fixing. Is it expected to be like 15 purges, or 50 purges, or 500s, or...? Eievie (talk) 22:27, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
How do we add works without usable scans?
[edit]Atlas Games has released a number of Ars Magica books under the CC-BY-SA 4.0. However, as they put it "The Licensed Material is the TEXT of the game books. It does not include the the trade dress, artwork, cartography, or logos." So we can not just upload the PDFs of the books. What's the best way to handle this? Prosfilaes (talk) 07:51, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- I'd say just leave it. There are plenty of awesome and useful texts published and actually free that we can work on instead of wasting time on texts where the publisher is deliberately making it difficult to reuse it (undermining the seemingly open license). There's no even half-way good way for us to host this text unless and until someone else we recognise as a reputable publisher republishes the text in a form that is actually free. Any hoop-jumping we do before that happens is just going to water down our commitment to verifiability and openness, and create maintenance problems for ourselves down the road. Xover (talk) 08:09, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
How do I format this right sidenote that becomes... not a right sidenote
[edit]{{helpme}} It's really hard to describe, but I'm working on Page:1610 Douai Old Testament.pdf/337 and you can see that the right sidenote kind of overflows into the gap created by the paragraph break. Is there a way to format that, so that it looks right in the webpage? SkylightPenguin (talk) 00:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- Don't attempt to reproduce this formatting. Any solution will simply not scale across the wide range of formats we serve and it's not worth the battle. Just leave them as long sidenotes. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 03:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- additional question, is there a fixed use of {{outside L}} vs {{left sidenote}} and {{outside RL}} vs ?
- I ask because the document in question has inside and outside sidenotes, and I realise if this is transcluded, the sidenotes will keep changing sides.
- I also wonder if you can help me clarify: I just use {{outside RL}} on the sidenotes that show up on the right side, and in the... full view, (not source view/page-by-page view), it will render on the left?
- I read the documentation, but I found it a little unclear. SkylightPenguin (talk) 07:02, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Unable to validate page
[edit]For some reason I'm unable to validate Page:Zanoni.djvu/140 despite never having touched the page before. It just seems to be a problem with this pages, all other pages seem to work fine. ToxicPea (talk) 16:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- @ToxicPea: I deleted and recreated the page, with exact same content. Does it work now? SnowyCinema (talk) 17:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- It did work, thank you. ToxicPea (talk) 17:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- The revision history shows that you validated it and then I did the same. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
- It did work, thank you. ToxicPea (talk) 17:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Illegible page thumbnails
[edit]For Liberty v02 n10 (1925-07-11) the small text is reduced to illegibility in the thumbnails used for editing. I didn't find anything about this kind of thing in my search of Help: or the archive here. I noticed that the images at IA are roughly 2600x3400 in resolution, but the PDF is about 600X800. Is there anything I can do to get better thumbnails for the edit page? Oswallt (talk) 02:18, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oswallt I made a djvu file to replace the pdf. There were some single pages that contained 2 pages; those were split up and it should work a lot better with what we have here. The downside is that (if you accept this file) you will need to start over somewhat. I can move the pages that you did already and they should match the pages in the pdf; but I won't do that until you say it is okay to do so. Index:Liberty-Vo2-N10.djvu (the cache at commons and here might need some purging, don't worry if it doesn't show right away; it is there)
- What fun this one was! Funny ads and nice pictures. Let me know if you would like those pages moved.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 01:41, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- @RaboKarbakian Thank you! Yes, please move the pages; I saved the little bit of editing I've done.
- I stumbled across this on Internet Archive and was surprised to find out that it was incredibly popular in the 1920s and 1930s. It had articles from all kinds of well known people. The Wikipedia article has a list of some of the most notable ones. Oswallt (talk) 03:19, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oswallt: Everything has been moved. I think that paperbacks killed the magazines; its kind of too bad, really. Serialized fiction, essays, and reports from about. Writers and illustrators could pick up a little cash and maybe a few more fans/readers.--RaboKarbakian (talk) 13:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
Not transcluding + questions on transcription
[edit]The first problem is that <pages index="A Frank Statement.png"/>
doesn't seem to produce any page text.
Secondly, am I doing things at Page:A Frank Statement.png correctly so far? What do I do with the fact that the original scan's "Sponsors" heading has spaces between the letters? Should I preserve the original scan's columns, including under the sponsor heading? Aaron Liu (talk) 02:59, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Aaron Liu For
<pages />
you'll need to tell it which pages, even if there's only one. So,<pages index="A Frank Statement.png" include=1 />
This Help: page gives some info on transclusion. For the letter spacing, there's a template: {{Letter-spacing}}. Don't preserve the columns, here's a Help: page on that. I'm still not very experienced here myself, so I'll leave any other tips and help to the cool kids. But, for me, it looks like you're doing good! Oswallt (talk) 03:25, 8 January 2025 (UTC)- Thanks, that worked! Aaron Liu (talk) 03:33, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Also, what do I do with the numbers sticking out in smallcaps? Aaron Liu (talk) 03:43, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Aaron Liu I'm not sure if it's the right way to do it, but you can use one of the size templates, like {{xs}} Oswallt (talk) 03:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- well, let's see if others respond Aaron Liu (talk) 03:57, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Aaron Liu I'm not sure if it's the right way to do it, but you can use one of the size templates, like {{xs}} Oswallt (talk) 03:49, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Oswallt, Aaron Liu: The page has been changed so that it is no longer used, but the template usually employed for that is {{o s}}: 5400 Empire State Building, New York 1, N. Y. In that case, though, because the numbers were the same height as the letters (no descenders), the proper route is to wrap the entire address (letters and numbers) in a size template. TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 02:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
handwritten text: ampersand, &c, etc.
[edit]Proofreading here , and saw some shorthand/archaic used for things like city name, 'and', and 'etc'. Am I using these templates correctly? Or, is this just too much? Thanks Just Al (talk) 01:00, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- Don't need to template these, just enter the characters. Also, hard-coding the linebreaks in prose passages is not done here. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 05:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
- I didn't set the line breaks, they were from a previous editor. But I'll go back and remove them. Thanks. Just Al (talk) 14:17, 9 January 2025 (UTC)
'Error: Invalid interval' when specifying pagelist
[edit]I'm trying to transcribe an English translation of Bjorsjerne Bjornson's Fiskerjenten: Index:The Fisher Maiden.pdf. The file seems to have uploaded fine to Commons (File:The_Fisher_Maiden.pdf) but the index is getting an "Error: Invalid interval" error so I can't proofread any of the pages. How do I fix this? Thanks! Qx3Jw (talk) 21:54, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- It displays now for me. Sometimes this happens with issues related to catching and purging. If you refresh the index on your end, it should be good. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:07, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks. Literally checked 3 minutes ago and it wasn't fine still ... alas. Thanks! Qx3Jw (talk) 22:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- I purged both the commons version and the WS mirror of the file to force it to appear. MarkLSteadman (talk) 22:11, 10 January 2025 (UTC)
- Wow, thanks. Literally checked 3 minutes ago and it wasn't fine still ... alas. Thanks! Qx3Jw (talk) 22:08, 10 January 2025 (UTC)