Talk:Stephen Colbert/Archive 5
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New information for Awards and Honors section
I had to open a new account, and am unable to add this information: On September 8, 2008 it was announced that Stephen Colbert's digitized DNA would be launched into space. Private space traveler Richard Garriott will deliver the sample to the Space Station in October in order to begin an "Immortality Drive." "In the unlikely event that Earth and humanity are destroyed, mankind can be resurrected with Stephen Colbert's DNA," Garriott said in a statement. "Is there a better person for us to turn to for this high-level responsibility?" http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,418494,00.html Feoffee 72 (talk) 14:28, 8 September 2008 (UTC)feoffee_72 10:30 AM 08 September 2008
Doesn't he also havve a bridge named after him in hungary? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.78.43.137 (talk) 02:49, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
I was going to ask about the bridge myself, even though it was not offically named after him. He just won the most votes. Kind of like the space module. The entry for the bridge itself (Megyeri Bridge in Budapest) [1] on Wikipedia has more info. Could some one add the incident about the bridge naming contest and link the wikipedia article about the bridge itself? I do not know enough about the editing process myself. Cheers! 198.173.201.184 (talk) 14:25, 14 July 2009 (UTC)JAllen
How is this not a featured article?
It's your duty, people, to get this thing featured. Colbert has done all the hard work, that is, living his life; all you people have to do is record it. Now nominate it, and if it fails, improve it and do it again. If this isn't featured by the end of the week, me and Colbert look down on all of you. --The Actual Stephen Colbert's Media Secretary 20:00, 29 February 2009 (UTC)
- I have a better question. Are you from the future? →
- Harshael (talk) 09:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
- Me look down on you for not knowing how to use pronouns correctly. Also, why don't you help? KhalfaniKhaldun 02:58, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Lede Too specific?
IMO the lede to this article has too many specific details about Colbert's life, when it should sum up the most important points. Is it really critical to the lede, for instance, that Colbert served as Carell's understudy? Thoughts? Larry Dunn 18:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Video of 60 Minutes interview
The 60 Minutes interview with Colbert is broken. I suggest someone replace it with a working one, e.g. this one: http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/2006/05/stephen_colbert_4.html
RFC - Vote for the New Stephen Colbert Lead Photo
I typically take photos and put up the one I think is the best, but since this page has for a long time needed a new one, and I know people feel passionately about Colbert, I give you all the vote in true Wiki fashion. Below are four new shots of Colbert, all of which are--ahem--of exception quality that show Colbert in different lights. Vote on the photo you think would be best for the new lead. --David Shankbone 02:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
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Option A
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Option B
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Option C
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Option D
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Option E
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Option F
Votes for Option A
--David Shankbone 02:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)- Though I like the facial expression more in Option D but he is not looking at the camera. Overall an improvement on the existing photo. Good work! AgneCheese/Wine 15:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah, I like Option D, too. There's a story behind Option A: A protester posed as a member of the press. He was real quiet and shifty (usually the photographers talk amongst themselves). When Colbert arrived (late - he was introducing Nancy Pelosi at some Glamor Magazine award show), the protester started shouting at him. "What about World Trade Center Number 7, Stephen? What about World Trade Center Number 7? Do you have a little witty remark about that?!" It was really weird, because nobody could figure out how that had anything to do with Colbert. I'm all for protest...but this seemed like a poor target for whatever issue he had. Colbert? Who is off the air with the strike? So the expression in Photos A and B is Colbert looking at the guy and acting like he had no idea what he was talking about. I also have one of him holding his hand to his ear, smiling, in a "I can't hear you" gesture. --David Shankbone 15:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Good angle on this one; you can see his (famously) tilted ear! Dp76764 17:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- A - For the lead photo, I like the orientation of this one looking forward, but D is the better picture and could be used elsewhere in the article. Aleta 18:45, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Change my vote to option A, now that the shape was changed. I don't understand those that want to keep the old one (E). Shouldn't the photo be as recent as possible? For the lead on a bio-page, shouldn't it be a portrait type shot instead of what looks like a candid? --SVTCobra 23:05, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Close call between A & D, but I'd have to go with A, as he is looking more towards the camera than in D. Although his expression is more animated than in D, he's looking too far away from the camera in the latter, and because that is one of the reasons David Shankbone gives for replacing the original (E), then it stands to reason that A should prevail. B looks inappropriately dour for a comedian, and C looks as if he is having some serious constipation problems. I don't know why the hell anyone would vote for F. BobCubTAC (talk) 00:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Votes for Option B
Votes for Option C
Option A is the better photo, but option C seem to lend itself to a bio-page better with its vertical orientation. --SVTCobra 03:43, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Votes for Option D
- D is the most natural-looking photo, IMHO. --ElKevbo 18:04, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- This is defintly the best. It shows him in a good light, makes him seem nice and comedic while also is generaly a very well done picture. Its in my opionion the one that best refelcts A,B,and C respectivly Jack THE Pumpkin KING 18:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I really like Option D. I think it is the only picture that looks appropriate. The current photo has a million autograph seekers, on of which happened to have a camera. I think we need something more professional and D is certainly the best of the choices. Illinois2011 18:57, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- D. A and C are off-kilter ( a little scary like he's constipated); B is a good second choice if he wasn't a commedian and didn't do fake news; E would be great if the article were about his hair (fantastic shot of the hairline). Benjiboi 19:13, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- D for me too. Borisblue 23:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- It's a toss-up between A and D, but I think D shows a very flattering side to him. --David Shankbone 16:02, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- D. I don't like the big red blob in A. --Alvestrand 05:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- D as well. The red background distracts me in A, though that's my second choice. D just seems to show him the way he is: a comedian. - Boss1000 18:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- D is the most flattering picture in my opinion; it may not be a direct look at the camera, but it's the only one that shows him making a face which is appropriately comedic without being unattactively goofy. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 00:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
- D and A are my personal favourites. D looks less posed and more natural. The only other alternative is to ask the subject to donate a family snap he likes. That's what I did for Tony Benn's article. --Brianmc 10:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- D looks nice. --Boivie 11:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
- D In the other photos he looks either like he's surprised or like a complete moron. This is the only photo where he looks normal. -- noosphere 04:38, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
- D, best of the lot. Tim Vickers (talk) 17:56, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
- D -mattbuck (Talk) 18:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Votes for Option E (current)
- I'd like to know why you feel we need a new photo. The current one is perfectly fine. The Clawed One 03:35, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Because all the new options are more recent, have better composition and have a far, far higher resoultion? Borisblue 23:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm kinda with The Clawed One. I like the nice photo already on the page, IMHO. If I was forced to it, D. BusterD 04:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Really? That's surprising. It's poor quality, he's not looking at the camera, the color is off, and there are autographs seekers in the photo. I guess there are always dissenters. --David Shankbone 04:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- And there are always good-faith differences of opinion which are unfairly judged to be dissent. And good-faith contributions unfairly judged as self-promotion. BusterD 13:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- I don't really understand the comment. Dissent is just disagreement with the majority, which Option E clearly falls under. And self-promotion doesn't even enter the picture. But...sure. --David Shankbone 16:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- And there are always good-faith differences of opinion which are unfairly judged to be dissent. And good-faith contributions unfairly judged as self-promotion. BusterD 13:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Really? That's surprising. It's poor quality, he's not looking at the camera, the color is off, and there are autographs seekers in the photo. I guess there are always dissenters. --David Shankbone 04:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- I agree. Why is there a need for a new picture? KyuuA4 18:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
- Is the question one of need? We are always updating the site, improving it. So, if the question is one of "need" then the answer is: because we have better quality, higher resolution, more focused on the subject and more recent. The old one doesn't have to go, it would be shifted into the body of the article. The real question is: why should we keep the old one? I haven't read any concrete reasons why that one is better, whereas there are quite a few reasons why the new shots are better. It's very strange people are beholden to an old, low-quality photo just because there's "no need" to change it. --David Shankbone 18:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Votes for Option F
- F stands for funny (but doesn't really look like him). Benjiboi 12:47, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Votes for new selection
I think a picture like the picture on the front of "I Am America, and So Can You!" should be the title picture. The pictures of him smiling or not serious or jokingly serious do not go with his character. It's like putting a picture of Adam Sandler crying as his title picture. Chexmix53 (talk) 20:23, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
By 'His character' you mean the 'character' he portrays in The Colbert Report and most of his comedy acts. True, that those not represent 'that' character but the current picture represents a much more natural Stephen Colbert, if you ever run into him on the road you'd see him looking like the current picture and not portraying his character. Yehia18 (talk) 16:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
add story
Comedy Rambo A gladiator of mockery, Stephen Colbert is dismantling American society from the inside
From the Boston Phoenix...
http://thephoenix.com/article_ektid51190.aspx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Isabel bos (talk • contribs) 14:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Stephen Colbert Day in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada A bet between Stephen Colbert and the mayor of Oshawa March 20th, which also happens to be the mayors birthday
http://www.oshawa.ca/colbert/ http://www.thestar.com/article/176172 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.39.210.161 (talk) 04:48, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
the Bridge
I do not see any reference to the bridge that he had named after him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.185.223.208 (talk) 08:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe if someone provided more information, like a source or reference to this bridge then it could be added... Chexmix53 (talk) 20:24, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
References to Colbert in Popular Culture?
I was recently playing Everquest 2, and noticed that the developers included a little tribute to Colbert, in the form of the NPC "Trapper Coalbear" who gives out a quest entitled "The Number One Threat in Butcherblock(the zone name he's in)" which is to kill the feindishly clever bears in the area. I didn't see any decent place in the article to reference this, anyone else want to give it a stab? References to the quest line can be see at the EQ2 wiki at http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Trapper_Coalbear Athryn (talk) 07:39, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
Colbert's political leanings?
Can we get some info on which side he's on? I think that would be a great contribution to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.228.86 (talk) 13:46, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
- I just checked, it's already covered in "Personal life". :) Shoemoney2night (talk) 04:42, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Colbert's French heritage
Although Stephen Colbert is directly of Irish descent, his Irish ancestors were themselves of French descent. He also likes to emphasize this fact, pretty much to aggravate the francophobic right, but he seems to have some pride in it, even displaying the Fleur-de-lis on several spots of his set. I added him to the French American categories at the bottom. Please do not delete this link without discussing this a little bit before. Thanks in advance!!! --WhiteEcho (talk) 05:09, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Are there any sources to confirm this? I'd take anything on his set with a grain of salt, given that it's supposed to be representative of his character, and not Stephen himself. Shoemoney2night (talk) 08:31, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I read somewhere that his Irish ancestors were Huguenots fleeing the anti-Protestantism that led to the St Barthelemew massacre, among others. Which makes me wonder about his denomination, listed as Catholic (FWIW). Maybe his ancestors converted after a few years in a Catholic community? There are many other Irish people with a French surname, such as Stephen Roche (1987 Tour de France winner). Now, that may sound stupid, since the "Kerry looks French" thing, but I happen to know one dude in France who looked a lot like Colbert. I do really think he looks more French than Irish, if that means anything. --WhiteEcho (talk) 20:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not saying it isn't a possibility, but unless you're able to cite a solid source, all we've got is WP:OR. Until a reliable source can actually confirm Colbert's French heritage, I would suggest that the French American category be removed. Shoemoney2night (talk) 22:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, there is no reliable source here. His showing a fleur-de-lis (or even flying the French flag, not that he does) does not prove anything about his heritage. The cat should be removed unless and until a reliable source is cited. Aleta (Sing) 02:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- If you've also noticed, he has those darker eyelashes that make him look like he's always wearing mascara (and who knows, maybe he is...I wouldn't put it past him). There are several pics I've seen in which the darkness of those eyelashes is highlighted and he looks kind of Roman or Greek or maybe from the South of France. I'm not really sure if this feature of him would contribute to him, but I thought I'd add my two cents. 67.58.175.199 (talk) 02:57, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, there is no reliable source here. His showing a fleur-de-lis (or even flying the French flag, not that he does) does not prove anything about his heritage. The cat should be removed unless and until a reliable source is cited. Aleta (Sing) 02:08, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not saying it isn't a possibility, but unless you're able to cite a solid source, all we've got is WP:OR. Until a reliable source can actually confirm Colbert's French heritage, I would suggest that the French American category be removed. Shoemoney2night (talk) 22:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I read somewhere that his Irish ancestors were Huguenots fleeing the anti-Protestantism that led to the St Barthelemew massacre, among others. Which makes me wonder about his denomination, listed as Catholic (FWIW). Maybe his ancestors converted after a few years in a Catholic community? There are many other Irish people with a French surname, such as Stephen Roche (1987 Tour de France winner). Now, that may sound stupid, since the "Kerry looks French" thing, but I happen to know one dude in France who looked a lot like Colbert. I do really think he looks more French than Irish, if that means anything. --WhiteEcho (talk) 20:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
60% of all French citizens have at least one grand-parent born outside of France. To say that someone "looks French" is as idiotic as to say someone "looks American". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.58.147.83 (talk) 03:11, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
GA Sweeps (on hold)
This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.
- The lead needs to conform to WP:LEAD. Specifically, it is missing information on the "Personal life" section and the last two sentences are uncited facts that are not present in the body of the article.
- "Colbert also made generous use of humorous fallacies of logic in explaining his point of view on any topic. Other Daily Show correspondents have adopted a similar style, and the convention of having more character-driven correspondent segments, with Stewart serving as a kind of straight-man foil, is now generally accepted as a part of the show's format." (The Daily Show) This reads like original research without a proper citation.
Done. Added a citation and removed an unsourced claim. Shoemoney2night (talk) 09:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- "Colbert won three Emmys as a writer of The Daily Show in 2004, 2005, and 2006." (The Daily Show) requires a citation
- "Announced 2008 Presidential bid" is classic WP:PROSELINE and needs to be converted into proper prose. In addition, all direct quotes in that section must be directly cited.
Done. Condensed, converted into proper prose and added some citations. Shoemoney2night (talk) 09:50, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- The first two paragraphs of "Awards and Honors" require citations
- The "Awards and Honors" section is very choppy. I suggest a merging or expansion of the one-two sentence paragraphs, as they severely disrupt the flow and readability of the section.
If the above concerns are addressed, I will return to check the references.
I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far. Cheers, CP 01:42, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- A good start, but is work still being done on the article? I'm willing to give more time, since the goal is article improvement, not delisting. Cheers, CP 18:17, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
In the introduction it is said that Colbert will speak at the 2008 Democratic National Convention, but there is no source to back up that claim; because of this, I suggest that it should be deleted. 79.1.199.169 (talk) 19:29, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
Political Views
I think, since he is highly involved in politics and is always making political statements his political views should be included. He bashes both sides, but whose side is he really on.
He also claims to be a Christian, but mocks Christianity in the next sentence, so...yeah...someone put his personal beliefs/views in. --Huper Phuff talk 00:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- As it says in Stephen Colbert#Personal life, he describes himself as a Democrat. He is a practicing Roman Catholic and a Sunday School teacher and was raised by devout parents who taught him that it was possible to be Catholic and still question the Church (as detailed in Stephen Colbert#Early life). He sometimes describes himself as being anti-authoritarian. Shoemoney2night (talk) 01:37, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
With what we've heard tonight, this deserves an article.
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There are some webpages appearing about last night's show; I have found some examples, though I have not read all the way through, as yet:
- < http://huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/23/colberts-civil-rights-ml_n_82852.html >;
- < http://huffingtonpost.com/tag/james-colbert >.
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Pronunciation section makes no sense
"Colbert's father wanted to pronounce the name "Khol-BARE," maintaining the "KHOL-bert" pronunciation only out of respect for his own father."
If his father wanted it pronounced "BARE", why would saying it "bert" be a sign of respect for his father? This needs to be edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.43.148.213 (talk) 17:55, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
It does make sense, Colbert's father wished to be called Khol-BARE, but HIS father (i.e. Stephen's grandfather wished him to remain as KHOL-bert 86.129.20.194 (talk) 21:23, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
- There are too many pronouns. It does make sense and is correct but in an article about Stephen Colbert at first glance it can be misleading. Since Colbert is the subject of so many pronouns in the article, the "his own father" leads us to believe that this person is Colbert's father, not Colbert's paternal grandfather. If I could think of a way to word it less awkwardly than that and still get the information across I'd change it. 74.129.243.37 (talk) 23:15, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
GQ cover
Should the fact that Colbert was on the cover[1] of the May 2007 issue of GQ be added to the article? Or was he on the cover as his character? Coattail Anschluss (talk) 01:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Stephen Colbert featured topic?
I was wondering if it would be possible to create a featured topic based around Colbert. I think there are enough articles of good quality to allow the topic to be create. The articles that would be in it would be Stephen Colbert, Stephen Colbert (character), The Colbert Report, Truthiness and Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Association Dinner. I want to put forward the idea of doing so before I go ahead with the plan. ISD (talk) 15:25, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
wikiquote
as this is editprotected, can someone add {{wikiquote}} to the links section ? 70.51.8.129 (talk) 04:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- Why not create a login and add it yourself? Dp76764 (talk) 04:42, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Peabody Award Update
I updated the awards section to include his third Peabody award. I included the link to the official announcement, but it lead to an IP address (linked from the Peabody front page). Seems like they didn't link to a site with a proper DNS. Just FYI! Enigmaedge (talk) 05:51, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Comedian Infobox is being a bugger.
I'm trying to add Colbert's Peabody awards to his infobox. It won't list the title "peabody awards" and lists whatever I type after
| peabodyawards =
as if they were listed under his emmy awards. I don't know if this is a problem with what I'm typing or with the template, which can be located at Template:Infobox_Comedian. - preschooler@heart 09:35, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- Same happens to me. I'm guessing a template problem. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:24, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Photo
Does anyone have a clue what is going on with the main image? Illinois2011 | Talk 23:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I know what's going on. 71.10.88.69 (talk) 03:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
- Looks like a signing for IAAASCY to me. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Credited in Firefox?
I noticed that Stephen Colbert is listed in the credits of Firefox..
Go to.. Help > About Mozilla Firefox > Credits
.. then wait for them to start.
????
74.129.26.154 (talk) 01:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
Yea thats weird and should be noted. There's an article about it online if you type in "stephen colbert firefox" or some combination of those words on google. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.117.59.17 (talk) 02:34, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
wikipeidia Account
Does He actually have a Account on wikipedia? Trees RockMyGoal 05:46, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
External link to ZotFish?
Hi, I was wondering if it would be appropriate for someone to add an external link to the ZotFish page for Stephen Colbert?. I believe it's of genuine interest to readers, but I want to make sure I follow Wikipedia policy and not post it myself -- more info on the site can be found at Mashable. - Zotman (talk) 03:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- The site violates WP:ELNO, and does not enhance the article. It should not be added. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:26, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
Can someone fix the pronunciation guide?
The part right after his name that says " IPA: /koʊlˈbe:ɹ/ " should be replaced with {{pron-en|koʊlˈbe:ɹ}} so that it links to the guide page instead of "what is IPA".
Thanks!
(I finally get around to creating an account just to fix this, and now I have to autoconfirm before I can edit? Nooo!)
Entroppie (talk) 19:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC) Woo, autoconfirmed and fixed. NVM. ∈ntroppie 09:24, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- Umm.... it's even more wrong now. The IPA should be /koʊlˈbeər/. Please learn and use proper IPA for English! 210.254.117.186 (talk) 05:07, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Or rather, what pronounciation of his name are you going for? The reference it's linked to clearly refers to /koʊlˈbeər/ "coal BEAR" pronunciation, whereas the page now reflects a "coal BURR" pronunciation. 210.254.117.186 (talk) 05:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry. I just wanted to reiterate that the pronunciation is still incorrect on the page. I agree with the previous post that it should be changed to /koʊlˈbeər/ "coal BEAR." Thanks. :) Eilonwy81 (talk) 04:39, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Currently we have "koʊɫ.bɚt", which certainly confused me. (A co-articulated rhotacized diacritic? That was a new one on me...) The IPA rather obscures the main point, which "is the t silent?", and instead takes us around the highways and byways of whether and how to pronounce the "r" (which is hugely variable in English, without even getting French into the equation). Even if this IPA can be vounched for, I think we could certainly make the point more clearly in the text. Alai (talk) 02:11, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
Check General American. /ɚ/ is a rhotic schwa in IPA, which represents the unstressed last syllable of, say, American English doctor /ˈdɑk.tɚ/. Thus, Colbert as the old pronunciation "KOAL-burt" would be /ˈkʰoʊɫ.bɚt/, and the stylized character's "koal-BEAR" would be /koʊɫˈbɛɹ/. Use of "r" is erroneous, as /r/ in IPA is the trill heard in Spanish rosa and perro, not the approximant it is in English, /ɹ/. The writing /bɛɹ/ as kind of an off-diphthong /beəɹ/ seems feasible, but I think the usual analysis of this sound in American English is /bɛɹ/, e.g. hair /hɛɹ/ etc. In English, too, voiceless stops are aspirated when initial to a stressed syllable, so the old pronunciation begins /ˈkʰoʊɫ-/, not /koʊl-/, and /l/ is usu. velarized, or "dark" /ɫ/. Let me know if you disagree, but I watch his show frequently, and that's how it's pronounced. Adam Restling (talk) 07:41, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- You're describing a phonetic transcription. What we have is phonemic, and is consistent with what you describe. kwami (talk) 20:59, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Bio info incorrect
Stephen Colbert was NOT born in Washington, D.C.. He was born in Sumter, S.C. at Toumey Hospital in 1964. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tasmaniac212 (talk • contribs) 15:57, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- The statement is backed up by an article. Have you got a reliable source that says otherwise? -Shoemoney2night (talk) 16:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
No mention of Colbert's wikipedia vandalism?
The article does not mention his vandalizing the elephant article anywhere. It seems to me like this should be added somewhere, as it's quite prominent and important to wikipedia. Dr. Cash (talk) 19:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Is it described by a reliable source? Wikipedia is based only on secondary sources, so it's very easy to get Colbert's Wikipedia vandalism into this article. Just find a source that talks about it, and cite that source. Anything else would be original research. -GTBacchus(talk) 06:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Not to mention librarians are hidding somthing or alligators love marshmellows. --Npnunda (talk) 05:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
This is covered in the article for The Colbert Report. ISD (talk) 09:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Yup you are right. Makes sense because this is about the 'actor' not the 'character'. --Npnunda (talk) 00:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Conservapedia (a right wing copy of wikipedia) makes points about Colbert's vandalism of Wikipedia as evidence of its bias and unreliability. A proper listing of these need to be referenced to avoid letting it become propaganda for the right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.10.170.60 (talk) 05:53, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- This is already covered here and here. There's no need to cater to the nutjobs on Conservapedia in every article about Stephen. DP76764 (Talk) 14:15, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
time for a more recent picture
Anybody out there have a more recent picture? This one is from Nov 2007. --Npnunda (talk) 05:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Negative vs. Positve response to the '06 correspondents' dinner
The article tries to state that the overall response to his "roast" was a welcome one. I beg to differ. After having reviewed the footage of the speech, you can clearly see the reaction and the faces of the crowd start off as accepting and friendly. However, once his 15 minute speech is nearly over, the crowd looks as if they've witnessed a gruesome car crash. Also, President Bush's reaction is by far the most observable. At the end, he seems to look at colbert with a stare of contempt equal to that of someone who had slept with his wife. As far as the audio quality is concerned, for one of Colbert's more brazen punchlines about generals standing on computer banks ordering men into battle, you don't hear a peep from the audience. Lewis Black, a fellow comedian, in his HBO broadcast of Red White and Screwed, stated that before speaking in front of President Bush, he was instructed to remove all swearing and possibly-roasting comments from his routine. To think that this speech of Colbert's was well-recieved by the President is an ill-concieved notion. Please review the video again. If anything I'd like the article to state that the speech was not well-recieved by a majority of those in attendance. --conchaga (talk) 19:00, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
- You are right I made the change. It said that until a week ago. I corrected it. Anyone who saw the performance knows it got a cold response from the audiance. They are after all Bush supporters. --Npnunda (talk) 00:17, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Those so-called "Bush supporters" are all eating crow and Colbert is making them eat all their dirt using irony and sarcasm. One of the best beatdown by an intellect to a corrupt president and one of the best b_tch-slaps I've seen in a while to an audience choosing to side with stupidity. The audience is stunned coz Colbert is making them realize their own stupidities, not the least the one made by Bush.
I transcribed to the best of my ability a comment from Stephen Colbert which aired on NPR's 'Fresh Air' on 09 October, 2007. Commenting on the cold reaction from the audience, "People say that it bombed in the room; There were three-thousand people in the room. And it's an enormous room and, you know, when it bombed, if you hear the recording no ones happening there... a thousand people are still laughing, but they're laughing in the back of the room; they're not laughing up by the Presidents table and where the mics are." Perhaps this should be included on his profile. JamianM (talk) 23:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Colbert family photos and new lead photo proposals
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Photo C (not placed)
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(just extra)
Hey guys - I have only started to parse down some of my Tribeca shots. If you look above and click on the Wiki links, you will see where these photos are currently placed. I blogged about Photo C and that I had yet to place it in the article. I just don't know where to put it, and since I have only done photo editing on the page I think the decision should be made by you guys. This was the only thing I came up with. Move Photo B into Photo A's place, and put Photo C where Photo B is currently (under personal life). Either put Photo A in a new place, or keep it off since it is just a low-qual shot of two disembodied heads. It's up to you guys. Dave --David Shankbone 16:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a more recent photo for the main photo? --Npnunda (talk) 00:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Jeez, Npnunda, what do you think, I just have a bunch of Colbert photos laying around...? --David Shankbone 01:46, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
- Do you have a more recent photo for the main photo? --Npnunda (talk) 00:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
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No. 1
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No. 2
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Current - no change
Ha Ha thanks. I like photo 1. --Npnunda (talk) 15:28, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- I like #2, except the background is awfully busy (and distracting). Could the background be modified to a solid blue? Aleta Sing 20:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
- I prefer #3. The others are overexposed/overflashed. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:55, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
- Both of these other comments make sense to me also. I just thought it may be time for a new photo as the current one is almost a year old. As we can't reach a consensus I think maybe leaving #3 for now maybe best. We can wait awhile longer and see what else comes up. --Npnunda (talk) 19:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's partly why I was in no rush to upload them, although all of those problems can be taken care of with Photoshop, especially the lighting. But, hey, at least we are in the envious position of having too many choices instead of too few. Now if we can just replicate that on the other articles...--David Shankbone 22:03, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Venture Bros. Work
So, in the Filmography section, there is no mention of Stephen Colbert's character, Professor Richard Impossible, from the Venture Brothers cartoon on Cartoon Network. --AmberoSan (talk) 07:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out. I added it. --TM 08:19, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'll sign in at some point, but it needs to be amended that he since dropped his small role on Venture Bros. His assistants, manager, and agent gave Jackson Publick the run-around, eventually receiving a terse message that simly read: "Stephen has neither the time nor the interest in participating in your project."--74.235.10.145 (talk) 08:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure it needs to be amended. Although IMDb still credits him through to 2008, when I added the credit I adjusted it to end at 2006, his last appearance. --TM 12:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
- I'll sign in at some point, but it needs to be amended that he since dropped his small role on Venture Bros. His assistants, manager, and agent gave Jackson Publick the run-around, eventually receiving a terse message that simly read: "Stephen has neither the time nor the interest in participating in your project."--74.235.10.145 (talk) 08:56, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
2008 Libertarian Party Nomination for President
I think it would be great to mention that according to 2008 Libertarian National Convention, Stephen Colbert received one write-in vote on the second ballot for President or 0.2% of the votes cast that round. Killpineapple (talk) 08:13, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Soup
Is there really going to be a Campbell's soup named after him? Mwv2 (talk) 04:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
- Bet you $5 it's just a gag. ;) DP76764 05:49, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
See also section
Per WP:ALSO, the first link is already above the lead and the 2nd can be worked into the article. --Tom 13:16, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
The filmography is incomplete.
As compared to IMDB, for example in 2004 Colbert did an episode of "Law and Order: Criminal Intent". I can't figure out how to edit the table.Pjbflynn (talk) 05:19, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Colbert Christmas
Seems to me that his Christmas special belongs more as a work of his "character" than of himself. Any thoughts/objections about moving that paragraph to the other article? DP76764 (Talk) 23:10, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds sensible to me. -mattbuck (Talk) 23:15, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Ed Colbert Appearance, Colbert Report
Stephen's brother Ed Colbert appeared on Feb 12th 2009 not the 13th. The 13th fell on a Friday this year Colbert Report does not air on Fridays.
Taprootsteve85 (talk) 04:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
NASA Naming contest
I think this should be added to the article somewhere. Colbert asks viewers to write in his name in the naming contest of NASA's newest module to be added to the international space station. And wins the contest by a landslide.
http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/name_ISS/index.html
ref: http://science.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/03/23/2128257&from=rss —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.60.101.242 (talk) 00:13, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- This would be more appropriate for the article for his show or his character. And would need to be well sourced. DP76764 (Talk) 00:16, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Citing that he asked them to do so, and what the voting results are, is fine; however, stating that the name WILL be what they voted for is not, as NASA has not announced the name yet, and we aren't a crystal ball.--Vidkun (talk) 18:14, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I think the results of the contest should be reported here in the biographical article. The story was reported in the UK Guardian (25th March 09 p22 "Comedian's leap into space") with a short piece saying "An American comedian has embarrassed NASA the US space agency, by winning a competition to have part of the International Space Station named after him". The rest of the column makes no mention of it being his comedy character from which the name was taken. Colbert won by 40,000 votes with a total ballot of 1.2m. It should also be noted that as of writing NASA have not committed to the naming, as the final decision will be made next month. Smrgsbrd (talk) 09:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Can someone fix this?
In the second paragraph of "2008 Presidential Bid," the exact same sentence, Colbert's promotion inspired $68,000 in donations to South Carolina classrooms, which benefited over 14,000 low-income students. is used twice. Just deleting the second instance of the sentence will fix this, but the article's locked so I can't do it. 67.242.120.197 (talk) 21:33, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done! Thanks for spotting the error. Plastikspork (talk) 23:31, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- My apologies for introducing it. Dtunkelang (talk) 04:03, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
College of Hard Knox
While we're on the topic of fixes, reference 80 "McAndrew, Francis. "Stephen Colbert Honorary Degree" Knox College (June 3, 2006). Retrieved on 2007-04-16." points to an xml page that I wanted to click through and it's not there! "http://www.knox.edu/x12687.xml" gives "Oops, Wrong Way! The page you are looking for could not be found". Clicking around and using search at their site suggests they've expunged some records of his receiving this degree, perhaps in response to Colbert later trying to burn his diploma (a page which itself has broken links for presumably the same reasons). In any case, I don't know the official Wikipedia policy on pointing to a historically significant URL like this that has since gone away. If it's permanently gone, maybe there's a record at archive.org? Or, if it's only temporarily gone, perhaps someone could get knox.edu to restore it. It's hard to believe Knox wants to engage in historical revisionism, but that's certainly what it smells of. Still, from the point of view of a user browsing Wikipedia for reference purposes, it's just confusing and frustrating. --Netsettler (talk) 19:33, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- It turns out they just moved it to their archive (I searched for 'site:knox.edu "stephen colbert"' on google). Link now repaired. Thanks for spotting the error! Plastikspork (talk) 04:43, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Knighthood
In Season 5 Episode 46 he was knighted by Queen Noor Al-Hussein of Jordan. Should he then be labled "Sir Stephen Colbert" or does this status not actually exist? -- Navarr —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.165.168.14 (talk) 22:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- There is no official knighthood in Jordan. As she said, she had only "knighted" children before - implying that it's something she does to amuse them, not seriously. If you can find reliable sources that say otherwise somewhere, though, feel free to share and update the page. KhalfaniKhaldun 22:18, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Don't believe it exists AND this would be more appropriate for the article about his character. DP76764 (Talk) 22:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I would like to edit Stephen Colbert's wikipedia page to reflect the fact that he was knighted by Queen Noor of Jordan on 4/7/09.
Lwhalen (talk) 23:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the knighthood should be at least mentioned especially since his credit as executive producer now reads Sir Dr. Stephen Colbert, DFA. Frank249 (talk) 21:55, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
- Something like this is much more suitable for the article about Stephen Colbert, the character. DP76764 (Talk) 03:08, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
- I agree completely with Dp76764. Plastikspork (talk) 16:33, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Can't we just add a section about his supposed knighthood and whether or not he truly is a knight? --IdLoveOne (talk) 22:55, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
- No. See WP:SPECULATION.
- Fact: It was for show and not official. If some editor thinks different S/he should come up with a WP:RS confirming it as a fact. Till then, end of discussion as there is no discussion needed.--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 01:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- Fine, but isn't his "mock" knighthood still noteworthy? Especially considering all of the questions it's raising. I think it still deserves mention in the article, even if only briefly, then, as others have said, maybe more focused on the character page. Just my opinion. --IdLoveOne (talk) 02:28, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- As trivia (and not as a fact) yes, if RS's are provided as user:Dp76764 is pointing it out below.--The Magnificent Clean-keeper (talk) 03:21, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- Not unless there are reliable sources discussing it. Discussing 'questions' it might raise (like what?) without a source is WP:OR. DP76764 (Talk) 02:51, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- IMWO: Knighthood is a title of Nobility which is granted by the Head of State. Therefore, if Queen Noor is the Head of State of Jordan, (or authorized to act as the Head of State by the king etc.), then the title bestowed on Stephen is valid. Even if she knighted children, (if she is the Head of State or authorized), those children are also validly knighted. Obviously, knighthood is not what it used to be -- if Jordanian knighthood ever was something -- but as the method of bestowing a title of nobility, there is no reason why the "ceremony" performed on the Colbert Show would not be valid. The fact that she is authorized by the Head of State makes it official. Knighthood is simply an official recognition of individual merit by a Head of State, and that is exactly what happened. Long live Sir Stephen the Sardonic! Peace Wikites. Cclasby (talk) 19:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- Your argument comes from the basis that the title of knighthood is used in all countries to identify some special recognition. The fact is, though, that knighthood is only recognized as nobility in some countries. In Jordan it is not so recognized, and thus the "ceremony" had absolutely no meaning. KhalfaniKhaldun 20:47, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- IMWO: Knighthood is a title of Nobility which is granted by the Head of State. Therefore, if Queen Noor is the Head of State of Jordan, (or authorized to act as the Head of State by the king etc.), then the title bestowed on Stephen is valid. Even if she knighted children, (if she is the Head of State or authorized), those children are also validly knighted. Obviously, knighthood is not what it used to be -- if Jordanian knighthood ever was something -- but as the method of bestowing a title of nobility, there is no reason why the "ceremony" performed on the Colbert Show would not be valid. The fact that she is authorized by the Head of State makes it official. Knighthood is simply an official recognition of individual merit by a Head of State, and that is exactly what happened. Long live Sir Stephen the Sardonic! Peace Wikites. Cclasby (talk) 19:01, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
Any Sovereign has the right to knight a person, as does any noble or knight. There are two types of knights, those that belong to chivalric orders, which are the more formal collectives of knights and granted as a gift or honour, and then there are regular knights, which simply confers an archaic military and social status. In the UK, for example, you can still find both kind. Colbert is a knight of the regular kind, and still can use sir in that aspect, though America does not legally recognize this. He simply gets no extra postnomials or any regalia that would apply with a chivalric order. [tk] XANDERLIPTAK 23:19, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
Colbert's latest challenge? www.isstephencolbertacoward.com
I think this is worthy of a mention on Wikipedia. It looks like Perez Hilton has challenged Stephen Colbert to on behalf of an internet organization called Habitat for Hamtramck. Seems like a good old fashion media war is brewing here. What motive does Perez Hilton have in this? He challenged him on his Twitter account. Possible breaking news? Go to the website yourself and see it for your own eyes. http://www.isstephencolbertacoward.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.101.72 (talk) 02:19, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Doesn't seem very notable yet. Maybe when a reliable source reports on it. DP76764 (Talk) 03:53, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
- Especially because as of now it has 2000 views. 75.6.241.107 (talk) 00:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- This looks shady as hell. Seems like a bad scam. --168.105.127.243 (talk) 02:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- This is not worthy of a mention on this page. It has not been addressed by this individual in life, and it is not addressed whether it is directed toward Stephen Colbert or Stephen Colbert (character). In addition the web page is quite random and does not link to any reputable site. This is not to included in the article. Outback the koala (talk) 03:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
- This looks shady as hell. Seems like a bad scam. --168.105.127.243 (talk) 02:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
- Especially because as of now it has 2000 views. 75.6.241.107 (talk) 00:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
University of Wisconsin- La Crosse Mascot Naming
The UW-L Mascot was voted by the students to be renamed "Colbert". I feel that this should ne added to the section about various honors. http://media.www.theracquet.net/media/storage/paper978/news/2009/04/29/News/Students.Pick.colbert.As.Mascot.Monicker-3739374.shtml From the official school newspaper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.190.121.239 (talk) 20:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
for the record...
he was not the original bass player for The Grateful Dead24.144.137.244 (talk) 00:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, we know. That's why that 'tidbit' is continually removed from the article. DP76764 (Talk) 00:34, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Category:Criticism of journalism
Shouldn't the category be on this page? I know the Jon Stewart page has it, thought it was appropriate here as well. It's protected... so... 74.5.110.177 (talk) 13:49, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
I didn't realize it was possible to boost moral. Morale? Yes. Moral? No. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.176.152.212 (talk) 15:16, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
Guess What?
His daughter's name is spelled Madeleine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Njlokker (talk • contribs) 02:57, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Misspelling in the section about Operation Iraqi
It shouldn't be "improve moral," it should read "improve morale."
correction for Curb Your Enthusiasm role
{{editsemiprotected}} Colbert's role in Curb Your Enthusiasm is credited. His character's "name" is Tourist Man. 242Selby (talk) 01:33, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
- I checked on IMDB and this matched the request, so I've changed it to "Tourist Man" and removed the uncredited note.
Done Chzz ► 06:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
Why no mention?
Why is there no mention of his unseccesful song "Charlene"? 207.68.225.139
Maybe because it was unsuccessful, perhaps?--JayJasper (talk) 21:07, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
Semiprotection review
- 02:34, 16 September 2007 Yonatan changed protection level for "Stephen Colbert" ([edit=autoconfirmed:move=sysop])
That was a couple of years ago now so I'd like to review this semiprotection to see if it's still necessary. As well as welcoming the opinions of regular editors I've also contacted the protecting sysop, Yonatan (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA).
--TS 01:49, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
- The trial unprotection is over. Thanks for your patience during those four or five days. --TS 01:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Relation to Jean-Baptiste Colbert
I know some of the not-famous relatives of Colbert, and know that at least as far as they believe, Stephen's late father was the first son of the first son, etc, of Jean-Baptiste Colbert. I would have no way of knowing how to verify this, or whether it's even relevant enough to warrant going on the page, but just thought I'd toss it out there. My recollection is that this was more than a family legend, and that they thought it was documented, but pretty unimportant other than as a conversation piece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.106.143.248 (talk) 21:22, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
Invisible Children
There has been recent activity on Stephen Colbert's forum's and on Facebook regarding involvement with Invisible Children, the situation in East Africa, and the arrest. Gromley has placed a huge importance of the topic and trying to get Colbert involved as he can truly impact the world with this important matter. I did not want to add this to Wikipedia myself until it is truly approved, but he posted a summary of the past few months:
On Tuesday, November 17th, a thread was made on the Colbert Nation Forums asking Stephen Colbert to bring the Non-Profit Organization, Invisible Children and/or Senator Feingold or Senator Brownback onto his show, The Colbert Report to discuss the recently passed LRA Disarmament & Northern Uganda Recovery Act, as well as discuss the situation of the LRA in East Africa and what the Colbert Nation can do to help. Stephen is also being asked to sign Joseph Kony's Arrest Warrant, a petition made by Invisible Children to be delivered to President Obama on December 15th, asking him to take notice of this issue and make a statement by Christmas this year.
Here are a few sources regarding the topic:
Invisible Children's Blog Entry & Website
The information and sources are credit to Gromley himself and of course are not limited to. More information can be added regarding the matter.
Can we see a motion or support for adding this subject on the main page? All replies and criteria are welcomed!
Troyoda1990 (talk) 17:56, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
"pronounced /koʊlˈbɛər/; born /ˈkoʊlbərt"
This is stated in the opening paragraph. Since it doesn't appear that he was born with a different surname, why the two different pronunciations? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
Because he uses a different pronunciation as a performer than what his family uses, though the spelling is the same.--JayJasper (talk) 05:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
I see no mention of the C.O.L.B.E.R.T. treadmill —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.53.232.141 (talk) 04:56, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
- Look on this article and you'll find it. DP76764 (Talk) 05:56, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Stephen and the Colbert is nowhere mentioned on his wikipedia page why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greendayfan1010 (talk • contribs) 09:30, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
- Probably because that has more to do with his character Stephen than his real self. DP76764 (Talk) 17:34, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
GA Reassessment
- This discussion is transcluded from Talk:Stephen Colbert/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the reassessment.
As part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles' Project quality task force ("GA Sweeps"), all old good articles are being re-reviewed to ensure that they meet current good article criteria (as detailed at WP:WIAGA.) I have determined that this article needs some work to meet current criteria, outlined below:
- Clearly unsourced statments below need to be dealt with:
- "The Colbert children, in order from oldest to youngest, are James ("Jimmy"), Edward ("Eddie"), Mary, William ("Billy"), Margo, Thomas ("Tommy"), Jay, Elizabeth ("Lulu"), Paul, Peter, and Stephen."
- "Despite his earlier aversion to the comedy group, he signed up for improvisation classes, and enjoyed the experience greatly."
- "Another running joke throughout the series was that Noblet, a closeted homosexual, was having a "secret" affair with fellow teacher Geoffrey Jellineck despite the fact that their relationship was apparent to everyone around them. This obliviousness also appears in Colbert's Daily Show and Colbert Report character." (clearly original research, nuke this)
- "Colbert has appeared in several recurring segments for The Daily Show, including "Even Stevphen" with Steve Carell, in which both characters were expected to debate a selected topic but instead would unleash their anger at one another. Colbert also commonly hosted "This Week in God," a report on topics in the news pertaining to religion, presented with the help of the "God Machine." Colbert also filed reports from the floor of the Democratic National Convention and the Republican National Convention as a part of The Daily Show's award-winning coverage of the 2000 and 2004 U.S. Presidential elections; many from the latter were included as part of their The Daily Show: Indecision 2004 DVD release. In several episodes of The Daily Show, Colbert filled in as anchor in the absence of Jon Stewart, including the full week of March 3, 2002, when Stewart was scheduled to host Saturday Night Live. After Colbert left the show, the duty of filling in for Stewart was assumed by Rob Corddry until his departure in August 2006. Corddry also took over "This Week in God" segments, although a recorded sample of Colbert's voice is still used as the sound effect for the God Machine. Later episodes of The Daily Show have reused older Colbert segments under the label "Klassic Kolbert." Colbert won three Emmys as a writer of The Daily Show in 2004, 2005, and 2006."
- "The actual Colbert's career history in acting and comedy, however, is often downplayed."
- "Colbert in support of the United States Military and in association with the USO brought his show to Baghdad, Iraq on June 5, 2009 to film a week of shows, entertain the troops, and boost morale for forces in Iraq. Called Operation Iraqi Stephen, The episodes were filmed from the 7th-9th of June, 2009."
- "Colbert appeared in a small supporting role in the 2005 film adaptation of Bewitched. He has made guest appearances on the television series Curb Your Enthusiasm, Spin City, and Law & Order: Criminal Intent, and on the improvisational comedy show Whose Line Is It Anyway?. He voiced the characters of Reducto and Phil Ken Sebben in the Adult Swim's Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law but left the show in 2005 to work on The Colbert Report. His characters were both killed, though he returned to voice Phil for the series finale. Colbert also has provided voices for Cartoon Network's The Venture Bros., Comedy Central's Crank Yankers, and American Dad!, as well as for Canadian animated comedy series The Wrong Coast. He appeared as Homer Simpson's life coach in the Simpsons episode "He Loves to Fly and He D'ohs"."
- "He appeared in a series of TV commercials for General Motors, as a not-too-bright investigator searching for the elusive (and non-existent in real life) "Mr. Goodwrench." He also portrayed the letter Z in Sesame Street: All-Star Alphabet, a 2005 video release."
- "Colbert is a producer of The 1 Second Film, the world's largest nonprofit collaborative art film. His video request that IMDb list his credit for The 1 Second Film ("it is as valid as most of my credits") enabled thousands of the film's producers to be listed in the massive movie database until they were recently removed." (also smells like Original research)
- "In 2009, Key West High School student Heindrek Allen began an attempt to name a newly built wind turbine on the Key West High School Campus "The Stephen T. Colbert Wind Turbine" in honor of Stephen Colbert.[citation needed]" - might be true, most likely high school student vandalism.
- This segment: "Though Colbert's real-life presidential campaign had ended, current Marvel Comics editor-in-chief Joe Quesada established in an interview on The Colbert Report that Colbert's campaign is still going strong in the fictional Marvel Universe, citing the cover art of a then-recent issue of The Amazing Spider-Man which featured a Colbert campaign billboard in the background. Background appearances of Colbert campaign ads continue to appear in Marvel Comics publications, as recently as August 2008's Secret Invasion #5 (which also features a cameo of an alien Skrull posing as Colbert). In October 2008, Colbert made an extended 8-page appearance webslinging with Spider-Man in The Amazing Spider-Man issue #573.[68]" is outdated.
- This is a (deserved) cleanup tag on the list of honors; the least important should be weeded out, and others should be summarized and folded together. Info about his White House gig belongs (and is) in the main article, and is not needed here.
- Images: File:Stephen Colbert Knighthood.png, File:Colbert Dinner.JPG, File:Colbert report.jpg, and File:Stephen Colbert TDS.png are all non-free with spectacularly poor fair use rationales. Given that they are of a living person whose television persona looks exactly like him and there's no critical commentary related to that therein, there's no reason for any of the images. Axe 'em.
I am putting the article on hold for one week pending progress towards implementing the above changes. Keep me posted in this space. Thanks, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 18:38, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
- As no significant progress has been made in the time alotted, I am delisting the article. It may be renominated by anyone at anytime via WP:GAN, however I encourage nominators to address the issues above first. If someone has questions or comments, please take it to my talk page. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 14:28, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Someone recently added the following statement (second sentence) to the Richmond, Virginia article, and I am trying to verify whether it's true or not:
- "The Richmond Times-Dispatch is the local daily newspaper in Richmond, with a Sunday circulation of 215,000, owned by Media General. Famous comedy news caster Stephen Colbert worked as a fact checker in the late 1980s where he helped expose the largest mail fraud scam in the state of Virginia."
They didn't add a citation, but a brief Google search leads me to this blog posting on richmond.com by mward on November 20, 2009:
- [2] "4) Comedy Central host Stephen Colbert worked at the Richmond Times-Dispatch 20 years ago as a fact checker. Fact. (checked!) Any crack I make about him still being on furlough - whatever that means - will inevitably be edited out, so I’ll go with this: Colbert was fired after inking-in excessive cleavage in a 'Cathy' comic."
So, is this true? WTF? (talk) 16:25, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
dead link
the 98th link in the reference section is dead and needs to be removed. Ashburn247 (talk) 17:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Edit request from 24.105.174.74, 30 March 2010
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His middle name is Winston.
24.105.174.74 (talk) 17:33, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
Not done: Please provide reliable sources for this. --JokerXtreme (talk) 17:41, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
I would like to have The Colbert Report Section edited to show Stephen Colbert's (character) history as a news anchor in North Carolina in the late 1980's and early 1990's. The biggest example of this is the parody of Bill O'Reilly's "Do it Live" rant on Inside Edition.96.3.74.7 (talk) 20:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
Spartina Productions
I think it would be worth adding a link in some way to Spartina Productions which Colbert is involved with (owner maybe?). It's probably on a matter of time before the Spartina Productions page is expanded. --HuggaBounce (talk) 09:28, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
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Knighthood
That sounds like bullshit to me. What's needed is some reliable reference that says it was not just a comedy bit, that he actually received the Order of the Star of Jordan from Queen Noor, that she actually has the authority to confer this order in the first place, which is unlikely, and that knights of this order may indeed be called "Sir", which is an English-language title very likely not used in Arabic-speaking countries.
The frequently jocular contents of the show's credits hardly make for a reliable source.
Yes, it may be funny, but save it for the article on his on-screen persona. Adding "Sir" and the initials to the lede is just ridiculous. 192.91.173.36 (talk) 09:06, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- Well, if she's queen I'd say she has the right. And the sir may not be technically correct, but it's likely a decent anglicisation of whatever the real title is. -mattbuck (Talk) 09:45, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- She's not a queen regnant. William Avery (talk) 09:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- That doesn't mean she doesn't have any authority; she's still a queen dowager after all. I'd still agree that a better source should be found to cover this bit of information. DP76764 (Talk) 17:16, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- She's not a queen regnant. William Avery (talk) 09:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
- The knighthood is legitimate I have always assumed, as at the time Queen Noor was still queen regent of Jordan, no? I guess we need a reference, but I see no reason to remove it for now. Outback the koala (talk) 23:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm also wondering about the legitimacy of most, if not all, of these titles. The show itself does not constitute a RS in this matter because of its satirical nature. Kansan (talk) 07:26, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Fetured Article
I think someone should nominate Steven for Featured Article again. More people should know about him and it is a good page and it deserves to make it. Spongie555 (talk) 04:11, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
Operation Iraqi Stephen: Going Commando
Why no mention of his June 2009 USO tour/embed with the US military in Iraq? Set against his performance at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Association Dinner, it is, to say the least, interesting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.105.24.196 (talk) 03:53, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- There's plenty of mention of it on his character page. DP76764 (Talk) 16:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, thanks. But I think he purposely cultivates the hybrid "Colbert the character" and "Colbert the man" persona and varies the mix to suit... the situation, his art, etc. While there is a reference to the White House Correspondents' Association Dinner under the "Other appearances" heading of Colbert the character, there is no reference to his 2009 USO Visit to Iraq (wherein Clinton, Bush 1, Bush 2, Biden, Palin and Obama all endorsed him by appearing, I think) on the Colbert the man entry. He appeared as singly as I've ever seen him as Colbert the man on Faces of America, http://www.pbs.org/wnet/facesofamerica/profiles/stephen-colbert/11/ , Henry Louis Gates, Jr.'s PBS piece. The video clips on that site do not include all the footage from the show. There is an interesting section on the broadcast show where he claims unabashedly his longstanding love for country -- warts, tumors and all, it seems. 71.105.16.54 (talk) 22:50, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
South Carollina or New Jersey?
I recently added Stephen Colbert to "Category:South Carolina Democrats". Colbert lives in New Jersey but ran for president in South Carolina, which he commonly calls his home state, as if that is where he is registered to vote. So, does anyone know for sure where he is registered? Is it even possible to vote in one state while being a permanent resident of another? Thanks,Sbrianhicks (talk) 20:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Colbert Ancestry
I'd like to edit the second paragraph currently in the "Early Life" section as indicated below, but I thought it might be best to talk about it first.
Currently this paragraph reads:
"According to research done by Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr., of Harvard University, in 2010 for the PBS series Faces of America, he had Irish ancestors who immigrated to the United States in the 19th century. Although his great-great-grandfather, Michael Garin, arrived during the Great Famine in Ireland in the mid-1800s, some of his ancestors came earlier. His German ancestors came to the American colonies in the mid-18th century.[13]"
There are other professional genealogists credited on Faces of America. The research in all likelihood commenced prior to 2010.
According to research at http://colbert.ancestortree.net the Garin line may be in error. The gg-grandfather mentioned may have been instead James Quinn, possibly the result of a transcription error in the Illinois archives (Garin and Quinn could be mistaken for each other in handwriting). It is significant in weighing these claims that the Faces of America pedigree and sources have not been made public.
All of these problems are addressed in the following proposed replacement for the above paragraph:
"According to research presented by Professor Henry Louis Gates, Jr., of Harvard University, for the 2010 PBS series Faces of America, many of his ancestors immigrated to North America from Ireland in the 1800s before and during the Great Famine."
and cite both Faces of America and the colbert.ancestortree.net website since this wording is supported by both. Ggpauly (talk) 04:38, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Dr.
As of right now, the lede begins with Dr. Stephen Tyrone Colbert. The Dr. appears to have been added because of the honorary degree that Colbert received from Knox College (Illinois). I could be wrong, but I do not think receiving an honorary doctorate properly confers the title of "Doctor" to people. For example, Bill Clinton has received a number of honorary doctorates, but he is still not referred to as Dr. Bill Clinton. Personally, I think referring to someone who has received an honorary doctorate as "Dr." is insulting to the people who have traditional, non-honorary doctorates (real doctorates, you might say).
I would argue the "Dr." at the beginning of this article was added to the article to add to the exalted cult status of Stephen Colbert. I think it should be removed. (A similar discussion occured over the use of "Sir".) JEN9841 (talk) 08:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Parity With Glenn Beck
The Restoring Honor rally has a full article, while "The March To Keep Fear Alive" [3] isn't even mentioned in this article, though an unrelated (okay, maybe slightly related) Internet campaign in favor of a "Truthiness" rally is.
oh, there is an article 2010 Stewart–Colbert rallies. Maybe that should be linked here?
Congressional hearings of 9-24
Anyone want to take a crack at adding his testifying at the congressional hearing on illegal immigrant workers in the US, and staying in character until his final statement?
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/2010/09/colbert-stays-in-character-at-congressional-hearing.html http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/video/colbert-humors-annoys-congressman-hearing-capitol-hill-stephen-jonathan-karl-11722655
It's all over the internet today, so it shouldn't be hard to find a lot more sources than this. 67.193.96.49 (talk) 09:05, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
- Given the viral news coverage, I think it also should have its own article like Stephen Colbert at the 2006 White House Correspondents' Association Dinner.--Sum (talk) 16:34, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Tattoo
Does he really have a tattoo of a panther? He says he does, but he also says it "roams around" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.95.107 (talk) 18:56, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
- I can't find any mention of a tattoo in the article, if you could, could you please provide a link to where you found this information. Cheers, —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 9:12pm • 10:12, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- He said it in his interview with Cee-Lo. Why would anyone take what he says in character at face value? --Muboshgu (talk) 17:38, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
- Is it present in the article, if not then it's not worth adding to the article. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 10:01am • 23:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- It's not, nor should it be. --Muboshgu (talk) 23:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Ok, glad that's been cleared. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 1:26pm • 02:26, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
- It's not, nor should it be. --Muboshgu (talk) 23:05, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- Is it present in the article, if not then it's not worth adding to the article. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 10:01am • 23:01, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
- He said it in his interview with Cee-Lo. Why would anyone take what he says in character at face value? --Muboshgu (talk) 17:38, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Update on awards
I'm new on Wikipedia and don't know how to use it. Stephen Colbert just got the first ever Golden Tweet award. We should add this in somehow...72.211.214.63 (talk) 07:59, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Agreed, it's not a minor achievement either. (posted by Venyas at 9:27am PST) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venyas (talk • contribs) 17:27, 27 December 2010 (UTC)