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File mover
- Владимир Меланхолин (t · th · c (file space) · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
- Hello! I want to request the right ""File mover. I had many edits in "files" in Rissian, English, Ukraine Wikipedia and in Wikimedia Commons. I know WP:FMV, ВП:ПФ (ru) and ВП:ПФ (uk). I had 2620 edits at all Wikimedia projects. I have rights "Renaming without redirects" (en: Page Mover), "Rollbacker" and "Uploader" (not in the English Wikipedia) at Russian Wikipedia. I had right "Autopatroller" in Meta and Russian Wikipedia, but I lost it, because there were suspicions about the quality of my translations. Why do I want this? I decided to look at all the files. And I was very surprised when I saw how many files with bad names. Also, I remember how slow it is to process requests for renaming, even though there are a lot of administrators here. And I decided to correct th pplis situation, at least partially. Владимир Меланхолин (обс) 09:38, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Владимир Меланхолин: I'm a bit concerned because you're not a native English speaker, some of your recent requests were a bit prose heavy (but you're adjusting that now) and you still seem to be stumbling a bit with finding the correct template. Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming hasn't had a backlog in a while, as a matter of fact, it's typically empty nowadays. Moving files is no huge effort for me personally, so I'd say keep tagging those bad names with {{Rename media}}. If/when the existing file movers are essentially rubber stamping your requests, I'd support promoting you to file mover. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:49, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Alexis Jazz: thanks! I think I can hone my skill in a few days. As for my difficulties with the template, I just forgot how to write in English (I'm used to writing it in Russian!). But I remembered that I work with files, and I forgot to put file at the beginning (I wrote {{Rename}}, not {{Rename file}}). It's easier for me now. It'll be better in a couple of days. Владимир Меланхолин (обс) 05:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- File:J11313hbo58.jpg > File:Atrevete-te-te, Calle 13 single cover.jpg – Done
- File:JAABBERS2222.JPG > File:Banned in Boston, The Jabbers album cover.jpg – Done
- File:C's cap.PNG > File:Vancouver Canadians logo.PNG – Done
- @Alexis Jazz: thanks! I think I can hone my skill in a few days. As for my difficulties with the template, I just forgot how to write in English (I'm used to writing it in Russian!). But I remembered that I work with files, and I forgot to put file at the beginning (I wrote {{Rename}}, not {{Rename file}}). It's easier for me now. It'll be better in a couple of days. Владимир Меланхолин (обс) 05:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Владимир Меланхолин: I'm a bit concerned because you're not a native English speaker, some of your recent requests were a bit prose heavy (but you're adjusting that now) and you still seem to be stumbling a bit with finding the correct template. Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming hasn't had a backlog in a while, as a matter of fact, it's typically empty nowadays. Moving files is no huge effort for me personally, so I'd say keep tagging those bad names with {{Rename media}}. If/when the existing file movers are essentially rubber stamping your requests, I'd support promoting you to file mover. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:49, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
- I wanted to take this opportunity to ask. Do I need to rename files that contain characters in the name that cannot be typed on the keyboard (á, ó, etc.)? Владимир Меланхолин (обс) 06:28, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Владимир Меланхолин: No, you don't. Btw, I can type á, ó, è, ê etc no problem. I renamed File:C's cap.PNG to File:Vancouver Canadians Cap insignia.png as it is different from the team logo. You can use WP:Twinkle (go to TW, Tag, {{Rename media}}) to request renames if you wish. Honing a skill will take more than a few days usually. Just keep requesting renames, you'll get there.
I remember how slow it is to process requests for renaming
I can process a rename request with a single button, just keep requesting. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 13:22, 29 December 2020 (UTC)- Thanks! 5. Переименование файла, содержащего в названии символы, не вводимые со стандартной клавиатуры (разрешены стандартные латиница и кириллица, цифры и стандартные клавиатурные символы). (from ruwiki (ВП:ПФ)) Владимир Меланхолин (обс) 06:54, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Can I rename files that have foreign letters in their names (for example, Russian)? Владимир Меланхолин (обс) 07:54, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Владимир Меланхолин: No I don't think so. Ruwiki and enwiki are different projects. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:18, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- Amkgp (t · th · c (file space) · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
- I am requesting here for a permanent permission of file mover right. I contribute at Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming and rename files if there are any errors when patrolling at Special:NewFiles per WP:FMV/W guidelines. Please find a list of selected moves performed since granted temporary right
- File:Barbie Dreamhouse Advetures.png to File:Barbie Dreamhouse Adventures.png without leaving a redirect: Typo in title (WP:FNC#5)
- File:Fraternities section, frontspiece, 1917 MIT Technique yearbook, p265.png to File:Fraternities section, frontispiece, 1917 MIT Technique yearbook, p265.png: Fixing typo in file name (the word "frontispiece") per WP:FNC#1
- File:Logo (portrait) clear.png to File:ALMCHK-logo.png without leaving a redirect: as per WP:FNC#2
- File:Screenshot 2021-01-01 202014.png to File:Peire de Maensac, ges lo reis no seria.png without leaving a redirect: name was nonsense per WP:FNC#1 and WP:FNC#2
- File:EPS LOgo.svg to File:EPS Logo.svg without leaving a redirect: WP:FNC#5, typo in 'logo'
- File:Screenshot 2020-12-26 at 8.20.25 AM.png to File:WCUB logo.png without leaving a redirect: From meaningless name into suitable name per WP:FNC#2
- File:Saint Princess Fevronia.jpg to File:Saint Fevronia of Murom.jpg without leaving a redirect: correct name as per WP:FNC#3
- File:B000A7X6HW.01.MZZZZZZZ.jpg to File:Ying Yang Twins featuring Mike Jones & Mr. Collipark, Badd single cover.jpg without leaving a redirect: P. 2 and per WP:FNC#2
- File:Westlife - Total Eclipse of the Heart (digia download cover).jpg to File:Westlife - Total Eclipse of the Heart (digital download cover).jpg without leaving a redirect: The name of this media object is misspelled per WP:FNC#5
- File:1311c2a2b9860616de4e9cdca44d41fa.500x500x1.jpg to File:Figures (song) cover.jpg without leaving a redirect: Change from completely meaningless names into suitable names per WP:FNC#2
- File:Tyrone gaa.jpg to File:Tyrone GAA crest.jpg without leaving a redirect: FNC#5 (correction to proper noun, i.e. Tyrone GAA) and to specify what it is, i.e. a crest.
- File:VIVID-AB6IX.jpg to File:VIVID by AB6IX (album cover).jpg without leaving a redirect: Suitable name to identify as the cover of album WP:FNC#2
- File:National Stock Exchange of India (NSE).svg to File:National Stock Exchange of India (NSE) logo.svg without leaving a redirect: To identify it as a logo of organization per WP:FNC#3
- File:Kildare.png to File:Kildare GAA crest.png: FNC#7 (disambiguation of a file with potentially overly similar names, i.e. Kildare (disambiguation), to what is specifically refers to, i.e. Kildare GAA
- File:James Humphries, 1972.jpg to File:James Humphreys (pornographer), 1972.jpg: WP:FNC#5. See: James Humphreys (pornographer). Humphreys is misspelled as Humphries.
- File:Jamessandilands.jpg to File:James Walter Sandilands.jpg: more suitable name per WP:FNC#1
- File:Logo for use on company wp page.png to File:Bausch + Ströbel logo.png: Change from meaningless naming to identify logo of organization per WP:FNC#2
- File:DanMachi 2 BD Vol. 2.jpg to File:DanMachi 2 BD Vol. 1.jpg: Incorrect number as per WP:FNC#5 and WP:FNC#1
- File:Her Legend (그녀의 신화) - Promotional poster.jpg to File:Love in Her Bag (poster).jpg: Title change, lengthy name containing Hangul characters
- File:November 2019 Grey's Anatomy Crossover.jpg to File:November 2020 Grey's Anatomy Crossover.jpg: Had a typo while uploading, the image is from 2020 not 2019 per WP:FNC#5
- File:ResizerImage250X252.jpg to File:BA Robertson Knocked It Off.jpg: The image's title is misspelled per WP:FNC#1 and WP:FNC#2
- File:Observedbd.com 1602178961.jpg to File:2020–21 BCB President's Cup.jpg: Change meaningless name to identify as the logo of the event per WP:FNC#2
- File:Jaffna Stallions.png to File:Jaffna Stallions logo.png: To identify it as a logo of organization per WP:FNC#3
- File:The Little Death cover.jpg to File:The Little Death 2014 film poster.jpg: To disambiguate from other films under the same name per WP:FNC#7
I have always taken care to update the link in the above corresponding articles when moved without leaving a redirect. Also, some of the successful rename requests from Wikipedia commons are as follows c:File:Dilip Ghosh Signature.jpg (double extension fix), c:File:Prof T. G. Sitharam.jpg (identification related), c:File:Jamsrandorj jargalsaikhan.jpg (changining meaningless name related), c:File:Ayame Sasamura.jpg (changining meaningless name related), c:File:Villa Scirca panorama.jpg (ambiguous name related) — Amkgp 💬 15:46, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Automated comment This user was granted temporary file mover rights by Anarchyte (expires 00:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)). — MusikBot talk 15:50, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Amkgp: A previous version of File:The Little Death 2014 film poster.jpg was a cover, but now it's a poster. I'd try to avoid specifying cover/poster in such a case if it might change again. If adding "logo" to File:National Stock Exchange of India (NSE) logo.svg had been a request, I would have possibly declined it per WP:FMNN. These are minor differences of opinion and details though, I think your understanding of WP:FNC is very good. Do remember to replace the filename in articles when moving. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:09, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Amkgp:
I have always taken care to update the link in the above corresponding articles when moved without leaving a redirect.
I meant you should also update the articles when leaving a redirect. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 19:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)- @Alexis Jazz: I had taken your suggestion and thereafter I do it for redirects also. See File:KFIV Power Talk 1360 logo.png. Thank you — Amkgp 💬 19:58, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
- Done Seems to have done a good job following trial so granting indefinitely. — Wug·a·po·des 00:28, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
- Automated comment This user was granted temporary file mover rights by Anarchyte (expires 00:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)). — MusikBot talk 15:50, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
- Celestina007 (t · th · c (file space) · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
- Greetings & thank you all for giving me a chance to serve. I believe I have thus far familiarized myself with file moving in accordance to WP:FMV/W & work predominantly with FNC#2 & have successfully renamed this , this, this this to their current appropriate title. I also have knowledge of image policies discussed in detail at WP:IUP & when not requesting for a “rename media” I do general file patrolling & work With Di's & F9's as can be observed here, here. here & here. I optimize the Tin Eye reverse image function to aid me in identifying copyvio’s. I also understand to satisfaction the WP:FURG policy. I also sparingly do menial work on Commons by detecting copyvio’s & requesting their speedy deletions as seen here, here, here or partaking in image related deletion discussion as seen here In the spirit of transparency, i should also state that during my early days of working with files I had erred occasionally in applying incorrectly [[WP:#FNC2]]’s in titles that weren’t necessarily meaningless as can observed here & correctly declined here & it took the help of Godsy to set me straight. Thank you all for your time. Celestina007 (talk) 17:01, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Celestina007: The first example was adjusted by Godsy, File:Russian Crash Fabric Material.jpg should have been File:Russian Crash fabric material.jpg, the third has been deleted or you copied the wrong link, the fourth is on Commons (which has slightly different moving criteria) and while acceptable, I would generally recommend to make the filename more descriptive than just the name, especially when more images of the subject are available or could be uploaded in the near future. (e.g. by adding "in 2020", "with white background" and/or "in black turtleneck") I don't question you doing good work, but I suggest filing some more rename requests. There is no backlog so don't worry. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:32, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- Really, once a rename is deemed appropriate per the criteria, there is wide leeway with the name. Regarding File:Russian Crash Fabric Material.jpg (which I renamed), capitalization is merely a preference. There may, rightly, be no backlog but it never hurts to have more hands on deck to timely reject or approve and implement requests. The only thing not approving new users when they demonstrate the appropriate capabilities does is to establish an old-guard cutlure. I think Celestina007 has worked and inquired more than most to learn the ropes of file renaming and see no issue with their request being granted. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 22:27, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Godsy: While I agree the old guard culture is toxic and can result in increased corruption, I think the only difference between us is that my bar for "demonstrate the appropriate capabilities" is slightly higher than yours. I do think Celestina007 could be a file mover fairly soon, but just not yet. Personally I'd say that in general any user who has requested 20 file moves of which 90% or more were granted without major adjustments can be promoted. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:25, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for the support @Godsy it is very much appreciated. Hello@Alexis Jazz, thank you for raising those points/queries as I believe them to be constructive criticism but like I stated earlier most of my errors were at my early stages of working with files and ones I won’t repeat because as of now I understand to satisfaction what is outlined in WP:FMV/W. Generally I find file moving in its entirety, a great place to work in, I believe I can contribute my own quota there, as you rightfully stated there isn’t a huge backlog there but I believe if granted this perm and the backlog does invariably increase, I would be there to take care of them alongside yourself, Godsy and the lot of other editors who work with files. Thank you also for the advice above which states I would generally recommend to make the filename more descriptive than just the name, especially when more images of the subject are available or could be uploaded in the near future. (e.g. by adding "in 2020", "with white background". I’d be more than happy to answer any further queries. Furthermore, It’s interesting how working with files also aids me in new page patrolling and fighting spam articles. Happy new year to you all and I hope you do take all this into consideration and give me s chance to prove myself and serve the community better. Thank you all. Celestina007 (talk) 15:51, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Godsy: While I agree the old guard culture is toxic and can result in increased corruption, I think the only difference between us is that my bar for "demonstrate the appropriate capabilities" is slightly higher than yours. I do think Celestina007 could be a file mover fairly soon, but just not yet. Personally I'd say that in general any user who has requested 20 file moves of which 90% or more were granted without major adjustments can be promoted. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 05:25, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
- Really, once a rename is deemed appropriate per the criteria, there is wide leeway with the name. Regarding File:Russian Crash Fabric Material.jpg (which I renamed), capitalization is merely a preference. There may, rightly, be no backlog but it never hurts to have more hands on deck to timely reject or approve and implement requests. The only thing not approving new users when they demonstrate the appropriate capabilities does is to establish an old-guard cutlure. I think Celestina007 has worked and inquired more than most to learn the ropes of file renaming and see no issue with their request being granted. — Godsy (TALKCONT) 22:27, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
- I understand your concerns about me not filing enough rename media’s, however Alexis, I did nab both this & this today. I really do put in effort. Celestina007 (talk) 00:10, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Celestina007: I've copied your comment from my talk page to keep the discussion central, as I actually want to comment on this. According to the uploader of File:Screen Shot 2021-01-08 at 1.02.02 PM.png: "Glenn Foley, mid pass. This is from an old newspaper clipping I believe, I couldn't find the original source". I declined the request and tagged the file for WP:CSD#F9. No license and Glenn Foley is alive. (so no fair use) File:Scott Cawthon.png appears to be a selfie of Scott Cawthon and was extracted from Five Nights at Freddy's: Help Wanted game files: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgWbZ1G4Cgw&t=103s. (the narrator says "the majority of them were total fabrications from the mind of a complete lunatic (lawsuits pending)." so this explains why the file was originally uploaded as "CompleteLunatic.png". No license and Scott is also alive so no possible fair use rationale, tagged for CSD F9. There is no need to rename media that is going to be deleted anyway. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:08, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Alexis Jazz, oh thanks, I’d be keeping that in mind moving forward and won’t bother to rename files that are likely to be deleted. Pertaining this I had seen “Complete Lunatic” and thought it very much offensive thus I applied FNC#8. I would be keeping an eye on source and license information before proceeding to renaming, which I usually always do, but to be honest I was a tad bit hasty and I take responsibility for that. Celestina007 (talk) 21:39, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- @Celestina007: I've copied your comment from my talk page to keep the discussion central, as I actually want to comment on this. According to the uploader of File:Screen Shot 2021-01-08 at 1.02.02 PM.png: "Glenn Foley, mid pass. This is from an old newspaper clipping I believe, I couldn't find the original source". I declined the request and tagged the file for WP:CSD#F9. No license and Glenn Foley is alive. (so no fair use) File:Scott Cawthon.png appears to be a selfie of Scott Cawthon and was extracted from Five Nights at Freddy's: Help Wanted game files: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgWbZ1G4Cgw&t=103s. (the narrator says "the majority of them were total fabrications from the mind of a complete lunatic (lawsuits pending)." so this explains why the file was originally uploaded as "CompleteLunatic.png". No license and Scott is also alive so no possible fair use rationale, tagged for CSD F9. There is no need to rename media that is going to be deleted anyway. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:08, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
- DocFreeman24 (t · th · c (file space) · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · rfar · spi · cci)
- Hi, I've been uploading a number of video game covers to help address this backlog in the video games wikiproject. On a few occasions, I've uploaded a file with the wrong name on accident. I'm happy to keep manually requesting that the file be re-named but I figured it may save folks some time if I simply have the ability to rename them myself. I'm also happy to help clean up files in line with the file mover guidelines as appropriate. Please let me know if you have any questions and thanks for consideration! DocFreeman24 (talk) 18:30, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
- @DocFreeman24: No need to worry about filemover workload. Don't hesitate to request moves. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:11, 5 January 2021 (UTC)