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Administrators' newsletter – January 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).
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- A request for comment asks whether partial blocks should be enabled on the English Wikipedia. If enabled, this functionality would allow administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces, rather than the entire site.
- A proposal asks whether admins who don't use their tools for a significant period of time (e.g. five years) should have the toolset procedurally removed.
- Following a successful RfC, a whitelist is now available for users whose redirects will be autopatrolled by a bot, removing them from the new pages patrol queue. Admins can add such users to Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist after a discussion following the guidelines at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist.
- The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being
the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted
rather thanreasonably construed
. - Following the 2019 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Beeblebrox, Bradv, Casliber, David Fuchs, DGG, KrakatoaKatie, Maxim, Newyorkbrad, SoWhy, Worm That Turned, Xeno.
- The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being
- This issue marks three full years of the Admin newsletter. Thanks for reading!
Admiration
I admire and appreciate the exceptional patience you have shown in dealing with Pmoore2222, first here and here, and most recently here and here. Please excuse me for saying so, but it's been my observation that many admins seemingly take pride in being autocratic. You are a refreshing departure from the norm. NedFausa (talk) 17:42, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe it's because I'm not an administrator ;) Just a joke, as I don't mean to besmirch the reputation of any administrator. Thanks for the praise :) Mr. Moore has a BLP on this project, and as such we have a duty to ensure it is verifiably accurate to the best of our ability. Given that this fellow asserts he is Mr. Moore, we also have a duty to respect him at least while he's shown himself to not be unworthy of such respect. He's trying to fix problems he sees in his own biography. He's not an experienced Wikipedian. We can't reasonably expect him to learn how to be an experienced editor here before he can try to make corrections. I'm just trying to guide him in how to do it appropriately. He's responding well, which is great. Congrats, by the way, on being the first human to post on my talk page this year :) --Hammersoft (talk) 17:48, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Just a quick note to say I did get your email and read it; I just couldn't think of anything suitable to say in response, other thank you for sending it. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:10, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
Draft:List of songs recorded by Van Halen
Hi, thank you for your comment! :)
This page will be different from Van Halen’s discography since it’s only going to be a list of songs instead of albums, EPs, compilations, live albums and singles. I figured it would best to make a separate list for all their songs because it would be hard to fit a list of at least 130 + songs in their discography.
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- There's no limit on the size of articles. I'd consider enhancing the discography article rather than writing an entirely new article. --Hammersoft (talk) 04:34, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
I forgot to put be after would 😂 Category adder (talk) 04:35, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Thank you Hammersoft!!! I’ll try to add the list to their discography instead of making but if someone removes it I’ll continue with the article. Thank you for helping me out, it’s hard to find people who are nice to noobs :) Category adder (talk) 04:38, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
- If it does get removed, I'd bring it up on Talk:Van Halen discography. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:07, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).
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- Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
- The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with
wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input
. No proposed process received consensus.
- Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating. There is currently one template: {{uw-pblock}}.
- When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [1]
- Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators
that checkuser and oversight blocks must not be reversed or modified without prior consultation with the checkuser or oversighter who placed the block, the respective functionary team, or the Arbitration Committee.
- Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators
- Voting in the 2020 Steward elections will begin on 08 February 2020, 14:00 (UTC) and end on 28 February 2020, 13:59 (UTC). The confirmation process of current stewards is being held in parallel. You can automatically check your eligibility to vote.
- The English Wikipedia has reached six million articles. Thank you everyone for your contributions!
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- And thank you again. I really was and am touched. I still believe there are serious systemic issues with the way ArbCom is run. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:01, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Well, how could I not agree. I was branded "battleground" in 2013, and some still believe that. Look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- It's difficult to shake such things. :( There should be some method of erasing past blocks, if found in error, and erasing past decisions, if found in error. The former is technical though some would protest. The latter...this community doesn't like to forget. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- I missed your reply all these months, DYK? I haven't been blocked, they just found me in battle. For fresh air, sure. I'll probably bother you often, new admin ;) - Thank you for offering help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Bother away :) Happy to help where I can. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- done ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:41, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Bother away :) Happy to help where I can. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- I missed your reply all these months, DYK? I haven't been blocked, they just found me in battle. For fresh air, sure. I'll probably bother you often, new admin ;) - Thank you for offering help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- It's difficult to shake such things. :( There should be some method of erasing past blocks, if found in error, and erasing past decisions, if found in error. The former is technical though some would protest. The latter...this community doesn't like to forget. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:47, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Well, how could I not agree. I was branded "battleground" in 2013, and some still believe that. Look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:18, 22 February 2020 (UTC)
- Bastard ;) (in jest of course). I'm looking into it. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Suffren article by Lascar12F
Sorry but the article I made is about the lead ship of the Suffren classe and not the classe itself. The same was the USS Los Angeles has a page of its own seperate from the Los Angeles Class page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lascar12F (talk • contribs)
- @Lascar12F: Fair enough. My mistake. Proceed ahead! --Hammersoft (talk) 23:36, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).
- Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops
must not
undo or alter CheckUser or Oversight blocks, rather thanshould not
. - A request for comment confirmed that sandboxes of established but inactive editors may not be blanked due solely to inactivity.
- Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops
- Following a discussion, Twinkle's default CSD behavior will soon change, most likely this week. After the change, Twinkle will default to "tagging mode" if there is no CSD tag present, and default to "deletion mode" if there is a CSD tag present. You will be able to always default to "deletion mode" (the current behavior) using your Twinkle preferences.
- Following the 2020 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: BRPever, Krd, Martin Urbanec, MusikAnimal, Sakretsu, Sotiale, and Tks4Fish. There are a total of seven editors that have been appointed as stewards, the most since 2014.
- The 2020 appointees for the Ombudsman commission are Ajraddatz and Uzoma Ozurumba; they will serve for one year.
Consensus
Hello,
It seems I've been editing against consensus by using a placeholder image in a number of articles. I wasn't aware of it to be honest and I find it really, really, but really hard to know sometimes what and where are consensus.
Just to let you know it wasn't at any point intentionnal. As you wrote it on your page "Consensus doesn't mean you agree. Sometimes the consensus feels very wrong. That's ok. Disagreement, however, is not a permission slip to edit against consensus.", I completely disagree with this consensus, but that doesn't mean I won't apply it in the future. ;)
Best regards, CocoricoPolynesien (talk) 20:48, 16 March 2020 (UTC)
- @CocoricoPolynesien: You're awesome, and you didn't do anything wrong :) There's a whole lot of unwritten and pseudo-written rules on the project that aren't codified in policy or guideline. Some other language projects use the placeholders, some don't. We haven't since WP:IPH become consensus. Before then, there were 10s of thousands of uses of placeholder images. Almost all of them have been removed. It's true; sometimes there are things we just can't wrap our heads around, but are in fact consensus. I see it from time to time too. It's the nature of any large group of people working in concert together. It would be strange indeed if thousands of active editors all agreed 100% on something! --Hammersoft (talk) 00:22, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
Placeholder images
Hey, just wondering where the policy for Placeholder images is written down. Cause your link only links to a 12 year old discussion, which states the intention to create such a policy. If the reasoning for removing all these images is simply based on this discussion, then I am not sure that I can agree with it. Skjoldbro (talk) 08:39, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- @Skjoldbro: The age of the discussion doesn't really have any bearing on whether it's valid or not. It's the last time a centralized discussion was had regarding this issue, so it holds...at least for now. Consensus can change of course, and I'm certainly open to it changing. It's just that it hasn't. If you want to start an WP:RFC about the issue, by all means do so. No objection to a new RfC from me. I do find the placeholder images to be very much less than professional, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't support a new RfC being run. There were two WP:AN/I discussions regarding the IPH issue. Both are admittedly old, but both did uphold IPH application. Those discussions are here and here. It's important to note here that not everything is codified in policy. There are many consensus decisions that apply on this project, and many (if not most) are not codified in policy. If you do start a new RfC, please let me know. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 12:11, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- The age could affect whether it is still valid, and since there were no prior objections to yours; it could be argued that there has been a change in consensus, per Consensus Through editing. Skjoldbro (talk) 12:50, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Age doesn't affect whether a consensus is valid or not. There's no guideline or policy that says consensus ages out, and becomes invalid after a certain amount of time. If we want to apply consensus through editing, then the fact that, almost project wide, placeholder images are no longer used that should be a strong indication this is how we do things. We seem to disagree. Given that it's likely you'll continue adding placeholder images, and likely that I'll continue removing them, a new RfC seems warranted. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:24, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Bad wording on my part, all I meant, is things change over time, as could this “consensus”. Well, I have seen just as many pages that use some kind of placeholder, as those who don’t, so I wouldn’t find that indicative of anything. Also, just because others do it doesn’t mean all pages have to do it, per WP:OSE. All it’s seems like is that your are removing things with an established consensus, just because you don’t like it. Skjoldbro (talk) 16:04, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- I don't like placeholders. That doesn't mean I have a burning passion to remove them :) Seriously, while I do them, I'm far from the only one who has done them. There were north of 50,000 uses of them project wide. It's quite possible the number was in excess of 100,000. I found just one in use more than 38,000 times. A lot of people worked to remove them from the project. I'm just a drop in the bucket. As to removing with consensus, I should hope so. I wouldn't do it against consensus :) --Hammersoft (talk) 16:21, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Bad wording on my part, all I meant, is things change over time, as could this “consensus”. Well, I have seen just as many pages that use some kind of placeholder, as those who don’t, so I wouldn’t find that indicative of anything. Also, just because others do it doesn’t mean all pages have to do it, per WP:OSE. All it’s seems like is that your are removing things with an established consensus, just because you don’t like it. Skjoldbro (talk) 16:04, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- Age doesn't affect whether a consensus is valid or not. There's no guideline or policy that says consensus ages out, and becomes invalid after a certain amount of time. If we want to apply consensus through editing, then the fact that, almost project wide, placeholder images are no longer used that should be a strong indication this is how we do things. We seem to disagree. Given that it's likely you'll continue adding placeholder images, and likely that I'll continue removing them, a new RfC seems warranted. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:24, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
- The age could affect whether it is still valid, and since there were no prior objections to yours; it could be argued that there has been a change in consensus, per Consensus Through editing. Skjoldbro (talk) 12:50, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – April 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2020).
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- There is an ongoing request for comment to streamline the source deprecation and blacklisting process.
- There is a plan for new requirements for user signatures. You can give feedback.
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold a
Arbcom RfC regarding on-wiki harassment
. A draft RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC (Draft) and not open to comments from the community yet. Interested editors can comment on the RfC itself on its talk page.
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold a
- The WMF has begun a pilot report of the pages most visited through various social media platforms to help with anti-vandalism and anti-disinformation efforts. The report is updated daily and will be available through the end of May.
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- It was used a long, long time ago. Obviously it isn't now. I don't care if it's deleted. I know, this is a bot leaving the message. This is in case a human decides to check on it. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:04, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
Comment
My apologies for reverting the Joseph Rosser article. I should had paid better attention and I take responsibilty. Thank you-RFD (talk) 22:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
- @RFD: Hey no worries. I made a mistake too, in that the initial edit by @Learnmoreeveryday: was correct, if malformed in the citation. I didn't notice it when I reverted it. Your reverting me made me go back and look again, which is when I saw the original citation. So, I reworded the "he enslaved people" to "slaveholder" which is what the source says. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
MCQ
Hi Hammersoft. Hope you and your family/friends are doing OK given everything that’s going on at the moment. Anyway, just wanted to thank you for helping that editor asking about uploading a school logo at MCQ. — Marchjuly (talk) 12:06, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
- Happy to help! I hope you and yours are doing well too. I've now had two family members (non-nuclear) come down with it. Both have recovered, thankfully. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:10, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – May 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2020).
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- Discretionary sanctions have been authorized for all pages and edits related to COVID-19, to be logged at WP:GS/COVID19.
- Following a recent discussion on Meta-Wiki, the edit filter maintainer global group has been created.
- A request for comment has been proposed to create a new main page editor usergroup.
- A request for comment has been proposed to make the bureaucrat activity requirements more strict.
- The Editing team has been working on the talk pages project. You can review the proposed design and share your thoughts on the talk page.
- Enterprisey created a script that will show a link to the proper Special:Undelete page when viewing a since-deleted revision, see User:Enterprisey/link-deleted-revs.
- A request for comment closed with consensus to create a Village Pump-style page for communication with the Wikimedia Foundation.
A barnstar for you!
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You protect Wikipedia from rubbish, fake, or spam articles and keep it useful. Oneillge2029 (talk) 18:24, 7 May 2020 (UTC) |
- Thank you! --Hammersoft (talk) 19:07, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
edit on Lebanese Air Force
Hi.. Refer to your latest edit on Lebanese Air Force, whereas you restore MD500 (aircraft with "on order" status") into inventory table. Actually, there is ongoing discussion on that page talk page on whether we should allow "on order" status" or not. Could you please participate in that discussion. Looking forward to your input. Cheers. Ckfasdf (talk) 00:40, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
- My concern was only that the removals were unexplained. There's been a rash of problematic edits on the article lately. I'll have a look at the discussion. --Hammersoft (talk) 02:03, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
Articles for Creation: List of reviewers by subject notice
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Recently a list of reviewers by area of expertise was created. This notice is being sent out to alert you to the existence of that list, and to encourage you to add your name to it. If you or other reviewers come across articles in the queue where an acceptance/decline hinges on specialist knowledge, this list should serve to facilitate contact with a fellow reviewer.
To end on a positive note, the backlog has dropped below 1,500, so thanks for all of the hard work some of you have been putting into the AfC process!
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Administrators' newsletter – June 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2020).
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- A request for comment asks whether the Unblock Ticket Request System (UTRS) should allowed any unblock request or just private appeals.
- The Wikimedia Foundation announced that they will develop a universal code of conduct for all WMF projects. There is an open local discussion regarding the same.
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Administrators' newsletter – July 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2020).
- A request for comment is in progress to remove the T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) speedy deletion criterion.
- Protection templates on mainspace pages are now automatically added by User:MusikBot II (BRFA).
- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
RfC regarding on-wiki harassment
. The RfC has been posted at Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Anti-harassment RfC and is open to comments from the community. - The Medicine case was closed, with a remedy authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for
all discussions about pharmaceutical drug prices and pricing and for edits adding, changing, or removing pharmaceutical drug prices or pricing from articles
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- Following the banning of an editor by the WMF last year, the Arbitration Committee resolved to hold an
Request on 17:29:36, 12 July 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Zabmon
Hi
If I understand correctly, my entry was flagged for not citing reliable sources. The source cited is a pdf archive copy of the National Salvation Party Congress, AGM Report. Is there something wrong with it? How may you suggest I review the submission? The info I've provided of the individual is very basic but is important because the wiki page of the national salvation party previously listed Necmettin Erbakan as founding chairman, whereas he only joined in May 1973.
Zabmon (talk) 17:29, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Zabmon: Hello and welcome to Wikipedia! It's important to understand that Wikipedia does not include everything in the world. Simply because something is true does not mean it gets included in Wikipedia. Part of what guides this in regards to people is Wikipedia:Notability (people). I don't in any sense dispute that this person was who you say he was. I can readily accept it as true. But, that doesn't mean he should have an article on Wikipedia. To achieve that, we're going to need sourcing to reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject. What you have provided so far is a primary source. We can use primary sources, within reason, but a biography of a person isn't going to be included here solely based on primary sources. Also, be aware that being a part of...even a founding member of...a notable organization does not make that person notable too. Does that make it more clear? If not, let me know. I'm happy to help. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
A goat for you!
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hammersoft u kinda swag but it was called india, you postin lies my boy
Loafgaudy (talk) 22:53, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Loafgaudy: I don't think I have to debate with you that calling the school a sex education school is nothing but pure vandalism. Wikipedia is a serious project, and not a playground for people to abuse schools. If you persist in these sorts of edits, you will be blocked. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:00, 23 July 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2020).
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- There is an open request for comment to decide whether to increase the minimum duration a sanction discussion has to remain open (currently 24 hours).
- Speedy deletion criterion T2 (template that misrepresents established policy) has been repealed following a request for comment.
- Speedy deletion criterion X2 (pages created by the content translation tool) has been repealed following a discussion.
- There is a proposal to restrict proposed deletion to confirmed users.
A barnstar for you!
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For helping to anti-vandalize Malang Sarr. I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me after replying off my talk page. Thank you. 22:05, 19 August 2020 (UTC) |
- @I dream of horses: Near as I can tell, there's a lot of rumors about Malang Sarr's intentions to sign somewhere. Fenerbahçe S.K. (football) is one of the rumored clubs, but nothing is definite...at least as of today, according to this article (English translation by Google). I'll keep watching the article for changes, and I'll keep my eyes open for any actual news that he has signed somewhere. But, it appears he won't make a decision until the end of August. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:45, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Rod
If you'd given me literally ten minutes, I was TRYING to add a source. I just don't know how. Here's the source: https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2020/8/17/21372825/blagojevich-fundraiser-republican-trump-gop-tom-mccullagh-republican-convention AlexKTsirikos (talk) 16:46, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- @AlexKTsirikos: I would have been happy to give you time, but reverting someone without providing a source when you were warned about adding material such as that without a source is not something that would attract trust. As to your source; that source does not indicate that Blagojevich has switched party affiliations from Democrat to Republican. It just talks about the intentions to speak at a GOP event. Someone speaking at a GOP event doesn't make them a member of the GOP party. Four republicans spoke at the DNC (ref: [2]). That doesn't make them democrats either. Do you have any source that asserts Blagojevich has switched his party affiliation? --Hammersoft (talk) 16:50, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – September 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2020).
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- Following a request for comment, the minimum length for site ban discussions was increased to 72 hours, up from 24.
- A request for comment is ongoing to determine whether paid editors
must
orshould
use the articles for creation process. - A request for comment is open to resolve inconsistencies between the draftification and alternative to deletion processes.
- A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2020 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
- An open request for comment asks whether active Arbitrators may serve on the Trust and Safety Case Review Committee or Ombudsman commission.
Draft:Mahesh Mahadev (2)
Hello Sir Thanks for your message this references is ok?, can u guide me
News Coverage: http://cms.newindianexpress.com/cities/bengaluru/2016/nov/23/doctor-turns-professional-singer-at-60-1541579.html News Coverage http://www.msruas.ac.in/student/cultural_sports for his Composition & Raga Usage in Tamil Film ( in Journal): http://admin.crrps.in/uploads/roots/previous/pdf/May2019.pdf Link of Audio Release: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0-GkOdHitQ User:Skancc
- @Skancc: With regards to the links you've noted above:
- http://cms.newindianexpress.com/cities/bengaluru/2016/nov/23/doctor-turns-professional-singer-at-60-1541579.html; This article is about Dr Uma Sheshgiri, not about Mahesh Mahadev, who is only mentioned in passing. Per WP:MUSICBIO, this article doesn't have Mahadev as the subject, and therefore does not help to establish notability.
- http://www.msruas.ac.in/student/cultural_sports; same problem as above. He is only mentioned in passing.
- http://admin.crrps.in/uploads/roots/previous/pdf/May2019.pdf; same problem as above. He is only mentioned in passing.
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0-GkOdHitQ; I can't evaluate the content as I don't speak the language. However, WP:YOUTUBE needs to be considered.
- Understand that simply because someone is mentioned in a source doesn't make that source very useful for supporting notability here. If there are articles in major press that have Mahadev as the subject that would help. But, I'm not seeing it. Maybe you can find such sources? --Hammersoft (talk) 16:31, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks I will find out. Shall i add this as a reference: https://www.indiantalentmagazine.com/2019/02/05/mahesh-mahadev/
I created this film Article and very old composer Article, Is this correct? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhansi_I.P.S_(film) and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Sudarsanam
need one more suggestion, shall I create new draft of Mahesh Mahadev in Sandbox ?
can I add more category for this article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Sudarsanam
- @Skancc: Note that you don't have to provide the full URL to an article while in Wikipedia. You can reference https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jhansi_I.P.S_(film) by placing brackets around the article title, which renders it like this: Jhansi I.P.S (film). To the https://www.indiantalentmagazine.com/2019/02/05/mahesh-mahadev/ reference; when I reviewed this, it appeared to me that that website is a crowd sourced site, and thus not useful as a reference. No, you shouldn't create a new draft. Any further work on the draft should remain at Draft:Mahesh Mahadev (2) for now. On categories for R. Sudarsanam; there might be some additional categories that are appropriate, though I don't know any off the top of my head. I do note that on that article you are using Wikipedia as a source. That's a problem, per WP:CIRCULAR. --Hammersoft (talk) 17:11, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Thank you:) --Skancc (talk) 18:57, 15 September 2020 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Skancc (talk • contribs)
- @Skancc: Also, please remember to sign your posts using the button third from the left in the editing window menu, or add ~~~~ to the end of your posts, and the wiki software will turn that into a signature. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:25, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
ok sir--Skancc (talk) 18:56, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Sir added new cite Draft:Mahesh Mahadev https://archive.org/details/saamagana-indian-classical-music-magazine-july-2018/page/12/mode/2up?q=Mahesh+Mahadev--Skancc (talk) 18:50, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw. To be frank, that's the first citation provided that sustains notability per WP:GNG and WP:NPERSON. Can you find more? --Hammersoft (talk) 18:51, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
ill find sir I removed unwanted contents in draft, if you say ok I will resubmit is it fine?Skancc (talk) 19:21, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- I wouldn't resubmit it for consideration. It will be denied again. As mentioned before, you need to find reliable, secondary sources that support notability. You found one. You need to find more. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:53, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
ok sir ISNI will b useful? Skancc/Dr. M. R Jayaram this draft source is fine sir Skancc (talk) 20:01, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Forgive me; What is ISNI? --Hammersoft (talk) 20:01, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
International Standard Name IdentifierSkancc (talk) 20:05, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- I think your best bet is using this: (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL) --Hammersoft (talk) 20:28, 17 September 2020 (UTC) ok sirSkancc (talk) 20:43, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
User:Skancc/Dr._M._R_Jayaram this article reference is fine?Skancc (talk) 20:43, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 1 is about Gokula Education Foundation than about Dr. Jayaram. Ref 2 doesn't discussing Jayaram, but rather has quotes from him. You should not be using Wikipedia as a reference, as you are doing with ref 3. Ref 3, Jayaram is mentioned in passing; again it's not by itself very useful for establishing notability. Ref 6 is effectively the same as ref 1. Ref 7 Jayaram is mentioned only in the image caption; there's no context in the article regarding him. See WP:CIRCULAR. Businesswire, which is ref 8, is a press release platform. I.e., it's a primary source and should be used sparingly. It cannot be used to sustain notability of the subject. Ref 9 is really about MS Ramaiah University of Applied Sciences, and not about Jayaram. I'm seeing a mild case for notability, but really there needs to be some solid secondary sources that discuss him as the subject of the article, rather than in passing or quoting him. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:56, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Skancc: Also, I placed File:Dr.M.R.Jayaram.jpg for deletion on Commons because it appears to have been copied from somewhere on the Internet. Please understand you can't take something you find on the Internet, upload it here, and claim it is your own work. This violates copyright. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:57, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
ok sir thank youSkancc (talk) 21:04, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
Sir i got this link interview in special programme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XVbhCQMv8Y is this usefulSkancc (talk) 18:43, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
- I can't properly evaluate it. It's not in a language I understand. However, it appears to effectively be a primary source as something uploaded on the channel of the subject, rather than from a major media source. Please also see WP:YOUTUBE and the reality that most YouTube links are not useful for citations and/or sustaining notability. --Hammersoft (talk) 02:10, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
authority control addedSkancc (talk) 16:16, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
https://www.filmibeat.com/celebs/mahesh-mahadev.html#upcoming cite addedSkancc (talk) 07:20, 31 October 2020 (UTC)
The editor is almost certainly Kate Finlay, the wife and business partner of the sculptor Marco Augusto Dueñas Both user:Finlaykate and user:Marco Augusto Dueñas Cepas are recent SPAs on that subject. MADC created a usepage [3] to hold his desired version f the sculptor's page and now FK is creating a similar draft. Meters (talk) 22:19, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- An earlier SPA on this article was user:Katefin. Meters (talk) 22:43, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
- Ah. Well, that makes considerably more sense. Thanks for the clarification and the heads up on the SPAs. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:45, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
I apologize for the confusion. I came upon the article on Marco Augusto Dueñas (husband and business partner) and found soooo many errors, I shall proceed to rewrite the article as per terms and conditions for your approval and hopefully, we can delete this old one. I'm finding the platform very confusing to edit. Thank you for your time and patience. (Finlaykate (talk) 11:28, 29 September 2020 (UTC))
- @Finlaykate: Please be aware that you have a direct conflict of interest. You need to read and abide by our conflict of interest guideline. I strongly recommend you make suggestions for improvement to Marco Augusto Dueñas on the article's talk page at Talk:Marco Augusto Dueñas. Please note that so far the edits that you have done to the article have all been reverted. Please work with us. If you have questions, let me know. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 12:35, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
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Request on 11:00:04, 23 November 2020 for assistance on AfC submission by Finlaykate
- Finlaykate (talk · contribs)
Dear Hammersorft, a couple of months ago we discussed the editing of my husband's article. Unfortunately, I have nobody to help me with this so I have rewritten the article with appropriate references in hope that it can be published and subsequently eliminate the existing one. I have gone to the Tea Room and a colleague of yours has suggested a formal request. Finlaykate (talk) 11:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
- @Finlaykate: I've taken the liberty of trimming the draft content you posted here and placed it on User:Finlaykate/sandbox, giving it some basic structure and (disabled) categories. You are of course aware of Marco Augusto Dueñas. While we do sometimes do wholesale replacement of articles, we usually just develop what is already in existence. You can use this sandbox to develop content for the Marco Augusto Dueñas article. Ok, so a few things:
- You noted the difficulties in working on this platform. Yes, it certainly can be. I think Wikipedia was far easier for new editors 10+ years ago, as there were not so many things that needed to be followed to develop what was at the time considered to be good content. The learning curve is much, much steeper now. We're here to help though.
- One part of the learning curve is how references are crafted. In the content you posted here (now on your sandbox), you had reference one referring to the Diocese of Cordoba. That was inspecific; when we make references that point to online resources, we include a direct link to the resource. I searched the diocese website and found an article (in Spanish) which supported the statement you made, and converted that reference into the style we typically use here. You can see this on the sandbox. I also added a template that automatically converts appropriately formatted refs into a list of references. You can see this in the editing window of your sandbox as the first line in the "References" section. It looks like this: {{reflist}}. You can convert your other references to this style by using the "Cite" feature in the editing window. It's in the menu bar in the window, furthest to the right. Click on it, and a drop down menu appears. On the left, there is an additional drop down called "Templates". Click on that, and click on "cite web" (which is what we use most). If you put the URL of the reference in the URL box and click on the magnifying glass to the right of it, the tool will automatically fill out most of the fields in the box. You don't have to fill out all the fields. It is sufficient to add the access date ("Day Month Year" format), and the first name and last name if it is an attributed article. Then click the "Insert" button on the bottom of that box and you're set. The {{reflist}} tag will automatically list it at the bottom of the page. I didn't convert all the references. I just did the first to show you how it is done.
- @331dot: (331dot, pinging you so you are aware of this conversation); 331dot is absolutely correct that you should be making edit requests on Talk:Marco Augusto Dueñas, rather than editing the article directly. I know this may seem strange; you obviously are closely affiliated with the subject and have a wealth of knowledge to impart. The issue is that we are an encyclopedia. We are a tertiary source of information and depend upon published, reliable, secondary sources to support the validity of the encyclopedia. Without such a stance, anyone could say anything by way of saying they know the subject personally. I of course do not in any sense doubt you are who you say you are, but if we allowed everyone to do this the encyclopedia would rapidly be overwhelmed with information that we would have absolutely no way of verifying.
- You can help us immensely by finding articles written about your husband that we can then reference to support statements in the article about him. As the English language Wikipedia, we face obstacles in finding such sources since your husband is Spanish and much of what is likely written about him is either in Spanish or in Italian. I speak neither language, so while I can find some sources you are far better equipped (assuming you speak Spanish and/or Italian) to find secondary sources to support material in the article. Feel free to add such links to at Talk:Marco Augusto Dueñas and we can use them in the article.
- I will make some improvements to the Marco Augusto Dueñas article. We have standards for inclusion of creative professionals in the encyclopedia. These are outlined at WP:ARTIST. The 4th point there, about having been part of significant/permanent collections, I think is the relevant one here. To have his work at the Vatican is a shining achievement, clearly sets him on the world stage and in my opinion eligible for an article here. I will work on improving the article to prove this with secondary sources and thus remove the {{notability}} tag that is currently on the article.
- Please feel free to communicate with me in the future. I'm happy to help. Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 16:38, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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I readded the CSD tags
I readded the CSD tags, as the article appeared to be unsalvageable. 4thfile4thrank (talk) 21:16, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- @4thfile4thrank: That's fine, and I agree. I just didn't intend on the script tagging it. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Hammersoft: The script didn't add it tho. I did. It's ok, of course. 4thfile4thrank (talk) 21:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- @4thfile4thrank: Ah, I see it now. Thanks. I loaded the page before you speedy tagged it, then looked at it a couple of minutes later. I did not see that you had speedy tagged it, and when I declined it via the AFCH script I was surprised to see that it had nominated it for deletion. Of course, it was actually you :) Confusion sorted :) --Hammersoft (talk) 21:21, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Hammersoft: The script didn't add it tho. I did. It's ok, of course. 4thfile4thrank (talk) 21:19, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
A slightly pre-emptive congrats
Since it's now 25 minutes to RfA-end, I thought it reasonable to give you a congrats on a unanimous RfA - welcome to the corps. Wield your mop wisely Nosebagbear (talk) 17:35, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Which end am I supposed to use? :) Thanks! --Hammersoft (talk) 18:05, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- The side that lets you put your talk page contents box back on the left ;) Nosebagbear (talk)
- Bugger. I messed up already. Which of these buttons do I use to block myself? And yeah, it would have been churlish :) --Hammersoft (talk) 20:25, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- The side that lets you put your talk page contents box back on the left ;) Nosebagbear (talk)
RFA
I have just closed your RFA as successful. Congratulations. If you have questions there are a load of people who can help (because who wants to read through ADMINGUIDE). Primefac (talk) 18:04, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! --Hammersoft (talk) 18:04, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Congratulations!
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Successful RfA
- Congratulations for adminship !! CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 18:26, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! --Hammersoft (talk) 19:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well done. 233 supports with no opposes or neutrals is a new record for unanimous RFAs - the previous record was 200, and yours is the second highest unopposed RFA ever. BTW when you get bored of scrabbling down the back of the sofa for the right block message, some kind soul put some code into my Monobook.js that gives me a really nifty dropdown menu. ϢereSpielChequers 18:28, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Added. It's a cool tool. So if the black button with black text lights up in black light telling me not to press the button, what do I do? :) --Hammersoft (talk) 19:10, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Only admins get to have the Red Button activated, because we're trusted not to push it:
DMacks (talk) 04:45, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- But...but...but...I.....can't.....resist!.... --Hammersoft (talk) 13:54, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Only admins get to have the Red Button activated, because we're trusted not to push it:
- Congrats on the unanimous support! Great answers to the questions. Good luck -- Eddie891 Talk Work 18:31, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! --Hammersoft (talk) 19:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Congratulations! Skarmory (talk • contribs) 18:54, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! --Hammersoft (talk) 19:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Congratulations, now just promise you won't stop doing non-admin stuff. Just kidding, if you can serve the project better doing only admin stuff, then go for it. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 19:08, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! I saw this post of yours by the way. It is with no small amount of irony that it so happened I ended up in the emergency room in the wee hours of the morning while the RfA was running. I'm fine. No really, I'm fine :) I'm not dead yet! :) Turned out I was having an unexpected side effect of an OTC that I'd taken. The symptoms were scary, but turns out it was nothing to be concerned about thankfully. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:15, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ed Dravecky loved Monty Python and Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy too. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 20:08, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! I saw this post of yours by the way. It is with no small amount of irony that it so happened I ended up in the emergency room in the wee hours of the morning while the RfA was running. I'm fine. No really, I'm fine :) I'm not dead yet! :) Turned out I was having an unexpected side effect of an OTC that I'd taken. The symptoms were scary, but turns out it was nothing to be concerned about thankfully. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:15, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
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- :( Hopefully my brief candle will not blow out just yet. --Hammersoft (talk) 20:12, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Well, that was uncontroversial - congrats on a smooth and well-deserved run. Thanks for stepping up, and welcome to the team. Cheers GirthSummit (blether) 20:06, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! I had to look up what "Jings" meant :) --Hammersoft (talk) 20:07, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hoots mon - did ah scunner ye wi' ma Scots? Ahem. If I'm not careful I'll be tempted to start writing articles on Scots Wikipedia... GirthSummit (blether) 20:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Just be careful what lift you use ;) --Hammersoft (talk) 20:17, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Congratulations champ!! Celestina007 (talk) 21:42, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks :) It really should be no big deal, but it has become one. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:43, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- The mop should be no big deal. Getting over 200 Wikipedians to agree unanimously on just about anything is a VERY BIG DEAL to be celebrated. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 22:14, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe I should have opposed myself then, just out of principle? :) --Hammersoft (talk) 22:16, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Lmao I should have opposed myself then, just out of principle I’m glad the community showed you much love. It really is no big deal & I feel the community should be delighted that an editor would volunteer themselves for a very arduous task. Thanks once more, for volunteering for such a tedious task/job. Celestina007 (talk) 22:27, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Congrats on the unanimous support at RfA. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 22:39, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'm stunned at the support! I saw your comments at the talk page and couldn't believe it got to 100 so fast. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:41, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Congrats! You have made history! Foxnpichu (talk) 22:51, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you :) Now hopefully my fingers don't glitch and say the wrong thing :) --Hammersoft (talk) 22:54, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
my fingers don't glitch and
There, fixed that for you. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 00:18, 16 December 2020 (UTC)say the wrong thingpress the blow up the wiki button
- hahaahahah :) --Hammersoft (talk) 00:19, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Ahahaha. Very funny. Foxnpichu (talk) 12:28, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Congratulations with an incredible result with completely bare and unedited "oppose" and "neutral" sections, which I don't ever think I've seen before. Sorry I didn't get back to you about co-nominating, but I think you were in good hands with WSC nominating, as indeed turned out to be the case. Mop wisely. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 00:24, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- There's been 18 of them in the last 10 years. Rare enough certainly. I'm quite amazed it went like that. No worries about the co-nom! You had approached me after WSC, so I wanted to give you the heads up out of courtesy. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:29, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Enjoy your demotion! ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 00:40, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Though, at least my pay didn't go down. Still making nothing :) --Hammersoft (talk) 00:41, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- The admin pay-reduction ratio works like this: .
- The admin workload expectation ratio works like this:
- So for you, it's the same pay for an infinite amount of work. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 🎄 01:26, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for that explanation. Human Resources didn't explain it half as well! :) --Hammersoft (talk) 02:43, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Congrats Hammersoft. Enjoy the new responsibility. Drmies (talk) 00:41, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! Working with it already. It's nice to not have to make reports on obvious cases and wait for resolution. --Hammersoft (talk) 00:44, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Congrats! Good to see your name on a blue background finally! It is better to install some good admin scripts, it makes it feel as if it wasn't your fault that the Wiki broke (it was the script, honestly!) .... --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:23, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah I already made a hash of it with clicking on a vau- block instead of voa- block. I swear it wasn't my fault! It was the script! ;) --Hammersoft (talk) 13:48, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Many many congrats H. The mop and pail are in good hands. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 05:05, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! Maybe I can fit a hammer to my pail... --Hammersoft (talk) 13:48, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- From one new admin to another, congratulations Hammersoft! Glad to have you around UAA and AIV, my talk page is always open if you have any questions. -- LuK3 (Talk) 13:12, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks! Started working on them already. It's a challenge to get the backlogs cleared out. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:48, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Hammersoft, backlogs are easy ... we have criteria for speedy deletion, G1 fits it perfectly. Dirk Beetstra T C 07:26, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- I think that's the nuke it from orbit option? The big red button DMacks was referring to above? :) I mean, after all, everything is nonsense...if taken from a particular perspective. :) --Hammersoft (talk) 13:56, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Another congrats from a long-time (talk page stalker). Did not notice as I'm more on the commons and some OTRS then here these days but could have made it 234!!! ww2censor (talk) 18:22, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Oh sure! NOW you show up? Your vote could have broken a tie, but no...you had to be lazy and show up now. Sheesh! ;) (all in jest of course) Thank you for the congrats! --Hammersoft (talk) 18:27, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
- Yup, that's true, lazy me. I'll remember for the next time. Hopefully there won't be a next time. ww2censor (talk) 18:31, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Your RfA
I'm so pleased for you. When I suggested you run back in 2017 (I think) your modest and thoughtful response made me think you were an even better candidate than I'd originally estimated. Well, that proved right. I didn't weigh in at the RfA because I was considering closing it... I didn't feel there was bias in assessing consensus in a 200+:0 !vote, but hadn't quite decided, and then missed it. Consider this a post RfA Support then. And well done. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 08:49, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! And no worries about the non-!vote. I think it was back in 2017...took me a long time to get here :) --Hammersoft (talk) 13:53, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- I voted and then kinda forgot about it until just now, when I went to action a UAA report and found that you beat me to it. Congrats. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:28, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks :) Doing some work there and a few other places since getting the mop and bucket. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:29, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Congrats, sir. Welcome to the garbage bin! —ScottyWong— 07:23, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks :) Reminds me of some Febreze commercials. :) --Hammersoft (talk) 13:51, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
User talk:223.176.115.46
Hi Hammersoft. Any ideas as to what to do about User talk:223.176.115.46? It appears to be a misplaced attempt at creating Draft:Rakesh Bariha by the same editor who also created User talk:Rakeshbariha6/sandbox. My guess is that this is probably a simple misunderstanding of WP:NOTWEBHOST among other things (e.g. WP:MULTIPLE) by an editor who probably means well. -- Marchjuly (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- I've deleted User talk:Rakeshbariha6/sandbox under WP:CSD#U5. I wiped the talk page of the IP and noted the attempt at creating an autobiography. Someone else dropped a note about autobiographies at User talk:Rakeshbariha10. I've watchlisted the draft at Draft:Rakesh Bariha. We'll see what happens. --Hammersoft (talk) 03:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking a look. Again, I think this editor probably means well, but just might be unaware of WP:42. -- Marchjuly (talk) 04:13, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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The Admin's Barnstar |
As a unopposed admin. Dipankar2005 (talk) 08:55, 22 December 2020 (UTC) |
The magical /64
Hi Hammersoft, I didn't know this when starting at AIV: WP:/64 – perhaps you find it interesting too :) Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 15:12, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! Yes, I first encountered it a couple of months back with this discussion. That link is helpful to explain it further. I appreciate it! --Hammersoft (talk) 15:19, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
Yo Ho Ho
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Thanks :) Same to you and yours! --Hammersoft (talk) 23:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
User:Jimmy Reverence Block
Thanks for the quick action. Rklahn (talk) 04:24, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Happy to help. It's obvious the person behind it is being a sockpuppet master. A WP:SPI report is warranted, if it hasn't been done already. --Hammersoft (talk) 04:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
A belated "congratulations"
Hey man, a belated "congratulations" on your adminship. In my eyes, it's always been a trust position, and you have demonstrated trustworthiness over the years. May the mop sop your slop. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 06:10, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you! Is the "May..." statement a Wikipedia version of "May the force be with you"? Hahaha :) --Hammersoft (talk) 15:59, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Manith Jupiter
Hi Hammersoft. I need some advice regarding Manith Jupiter and its creator/primary contributor Norasky53. The article seems to have been moved back to the mainspace by this relatively new editor after it was draftified (there have also been other articles draftified). I'm not sure whether the subject meets WP:BIO or WP:MUSICBIO, but I'm assuming that this might be a case of WP:NEXIST and that their might some sigcov in non-English sources. There have also been image copyright issues, but these have been dealt with. The main issue (at least to me) is that the creator seems to be well-meaning, but English is probably not their first language. They might also have a COI or they could just be a really enthusiatic fan, but it's their English ability (or lack thereof) that seems to be the main issue and their user talk page is starting to fill up with warning messages. I thought about adding a Category:Non-English welcome messages to their user talk page, but I can't find one for Khmer. I did find {{Contrib-km1}}, but that's not really applicable. I don't really want to scare them off since everyone makes English errors and those are things that usually can be sorted out. So, I thought that perhaps either you or one of your talk page watchers can help figure out how a good way to try and help this editor out before they edit themselves into some kind of block. FWIW, I've also asked about this on some WikiProject talk pages, but have yet to get a response. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:17, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'd dig around to tried to find non-English sources. Toss them at Google Translate if need be. I'm not entirely sure the person is notable, and it's possible we're looking at an autobiography even. I'd try to engage them in conversation. This edit summary is a chicken-and-egg sort of scenario. If there aren't sources to support because the country doesn't have as many outlets, it doesn't mean they get a free pass to inclusion of their article. Understandably, that biases the project towards subjects in countries where sigcov is more likely. But, it still doesn't give a free pass. Either sigcov exists or it doesn't. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:05, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- I appreciate the advice. I'm trying to engage this editor on the article talk page and their user talk page, but the warnings continue to pile up. They've also implied a couple of times that people disagreeing with them are "communists" which is a bit weird and might be a cultural/language thing. I think the same editor is also uploading files to Commons under a different username because the "communist" expression has been used there as well. So, far the only response I've gotten from them was "OK", but then they went back a did pretty much the same thing as before. Perhaps things will be resolved once the communication issues have been sorted. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:31, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Sam_at_Megaputer rollback, rollback, rollback of all content ...
removes content in bulk from various users without a real reason, leading to the pages being no longer updated --Marcpir (talk) 16:04, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- Could you give diffs of particular examples you find problematic? Thanks, --Hammersoft (talk) 16:08, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- just look at its rollbacks, it just leads to old versions of content that many other people have struggled to do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sam_at_Megaputer It also removed my content a few months ago and now I see it continues to do so with everyone and even leading to versions from months ago! Just because someone contradicts it --Marcpir (talk) 16:20, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not necessarily seeing a problem. There's nothing for me to do here; I'm not going to block him because you disagree with his edits which appear to be good faith. I recommend you discuss the issue with the editor on their talk page. --Hammersoft (talk) 02:39, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- just look at its rollbacks, it just leads to old versions of content that many other people have struggled to do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Sam_at_Megaputer It also removed my content a few months ago and now I see it continues to do so with everyone and even leading to versions from months ago! Just because someone contradicts it --Marcpir (talk) 16:20, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Your opinion on a discussion about rollback
Hey Hammersoft, what's your opinion on this matter? Do you think the restriction for Huggle is necessary? ―sportzpikachu my talkcontribs 02:45, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- I think it's trying very hard to grip a handful of sand. Huggle is just one example. Many years ago, I was able to perform (I think it was) 53 edits in less than a minute...completely manually. It is very hard to quantify what is excessive speed in relation to tool usage in relation to editor privileges. --Hammersoft (talk) 03:21, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Yo Ho Ho
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Donner60 (talk) is wishing a foaming mug of Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!
Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.
- Thank you! I was fascinated somewhat recently to learn that Stonehenge is not the only such formation in the UK. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:41, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
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Hello Hammersoft: From high in the Canadian Arctic I hope you enjoy the holiday season, Quviasukvik, the Winter or Summer solstice, Christmas, Eid, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah or even the Saturnalia, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 10:09, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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- Adapted from {{Season's Greetings}}
- And to you and yours as well! That picture of sunrise and sunset at the same time....I never thought of that before. Is there a name, even if disparaging, for people who live at lower latitudes? Especially those who never think of such things? :) --Hammersoft (talk) 14:40, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- Southerners is about it. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 21:40, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
moved from User:Hammersoft
(Sorry, I'm not sure if this is the right place to start a discussion). Hi, apologies for the inconvenience, you are probably very busy. I have a quick question. How do I know if the IP user has read my message on their talk page? I'm trying to settle the situation, but I'm not sure if there are better ways to communicate with other users. Cheers! Wretchskull (talk) 16:08, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- @Wretchskull: What you did is correct. Notifying them by their talk page is the correct way. Sometimes new editors are unaware they even have a talk page, but it's the best we can do. You might start a discussion section on your talk page regarding the issue so the IP has a section for them to add their comments. Monitor their talk page to, to see if they continue the conversation there. --Hammersoft (talk) 16:14, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
Merry Christmas
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Mollifiednow (talk) 13:58, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you :) Merry Christmas to you and yours as well. --Hammersoft (talk) 01:33, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Happy New Year!
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- Thank you :) --Hammersoft (talk) 14:06, 31 December 2020 (UTC)