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New Bot Log language?
How come the bot creation log is in spanish or something now? — Deon555talkdesksign here! 05:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- Very good question. I'm going to ask in #wikimedia-tech. Essjay (Talk) 05:55, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not getting an immediate answer, but looking at SVN, it looks like leon checked in a lot of Portugese localisation patches about 8 hours ago, so I'm wondering if maybe it's Portugese... Essjay (Talk) 06:05, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- Brion is on it now. I'm guessing the Portugese localization patches were the reason. Essjay (Talk) 06:09, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- I was going to say portugese, but I thought it was spanish. No worry! Very speedy work, top marks Essjay
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— Deon555talkdesksign here! 06:20, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- I was going to say portugese, but I thought it was spanish. No worry! Very speedy work, top marks Essjay
- Just for the sake of curiosity, it was indeed Portuguese. More specifically, European Portuguese. Redux 14:25, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- Ooops, this is caused by my fault. My text editor crashed under my translations and a sleepy dev [:)] have commited my changes. 555pt 15:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- Just for the sake of curiosity, it was indeed Portuguese. More specifically, European Portuguese. Redux 14:25, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard/RfA Report
Please see comment/question on it's talk page. - jc37 22:16, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- I believe Tangobot parses this table every hour. But it looks like something is wrong, so I suggest you take it up with User:Tangotango. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:28, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
IP blocking and Internet technology awareness
I was going to raise this at the administrators noticeboard, but since this involves some checkuser stuff I think it should probably be posted here too. I've been a longtime Wikipedia editor, editing from various IP addresses (home, work, on the road). I recently created this account so that I could avoid a problem I saw way too much as anonymous editor: blocked IPs. However, now I'm finding that even with an account I have difficulty finding an IP on the road that's not blocked. I've been looking into what's leading to these blocks and it does not appear to be called for in most cases (or just an overreaction). I think part of the problem has to do with misconceptions about how the internet works. Specifically an ignorance of RFC 1918 and it's growing ubiquity. With RFC 1918, what appears to be a single IP address affecting one machine and presumably one user.
This first arose for me with Tmobile hotspots which use a single IP (or maybe a few) for their 8,000 internet hotspots throughout the US. I reported this issue to ISP reporting and I am trying to work with them to get something worked out. However, there is clearly a problem of administrator awareness and misconceptions about the meaning of an IP address. Often time an IP can be cleanly associated with a single house or office. However, more and more private WAN networks make use of a single public IP address to sever thousands or millions of private IP addresses. This is a network topology decision. The network administrators could have chosen instead to purchase thousands of public IP addresses. Administrators should try to be aware of this and it would be best if Wikipedia could compile a list somewhere of these important IPs. It's not that such an IP should never be blocked, but rather the same caution should be exercised in blocking a shared IP with thousands of private IPs behind it that an admin would exercises in blocking a thousand IPs.
The WikiMedia foundation has a XFF-RFC1918 Project that may help with this too, but it's not entirely clear because the issue I'm talking about does not involve a proxy server (a work I see thrown around a lot by admins), but is instead simply a NAT router with a single IP address and hundreds, thousand, or even millions of private IPs. Until the WikiMedia foundation and its developers can work something out the best approach is to raise awareness among admins. --360P 23:43, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
- If you want to raise awareness amidst admins to any issue, then you do need to take this to the Administrators' Noticeboard. Bureaucrat tools can't help you with any of it, and it is not our job to "oversee" the administrators. Redux 00:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- I did post it there. I'm trying to understand the hierarchy a bit, but I wasn't assuming that bureaucrats were overseeing admins. I thought perhaps I'd get more of those with checkuser authority who don't seem to have a noticeboard. I also think bureaucrats may have the know-how to understand the issue better than the average admin and could help get the word out.