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Requested moves is the place to request and vote on article moves that are not straightforward, or that require the assistance of Wikipedia administrators. Normally, logged in users can do uncontroversial moves themselves using the [move] tab found at the top of every page (see Help:Moving a page for more information). However, sometimes this does not work because the target is already occupied (usually in the form of a redirect with a page history). In other situations a move may be controversial and will require discussion to reach a consensus.

Discussion to find consensus is encouraged for page moves requested on this page. For more information about appropriate reasons in a contentious page move, see Wikipedia:Naming conventions. Page moves take place after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator. The time for discussion may be extended if a consensus has not emerged.

What requested moves are not for:

Before you begin, please note that requested moves are only for moving articles, and sometimes templates. It is not the place for the following:

Unobstructed, uncontroversial moves
Moves of this nature can be accomplished by any logged-in user whose registration was more than 4 days ago. Use the [move] tab located at the top of every page. See Help:Moving a page.
Category move requests
To rename a category, list it on categories for discussion.
Image move requests
To rename an image, re-upload the image with the name you want, and then change the relevant links to reflect the new name, and then list the old image on images and media for deletion.
Merge requests
To merge two articles, make a request at proposed mergers or be bold and do it yourself.
Cut and paste move fix requests
To request page histories to be merged, list them at cut and paste move repairs.

Steps for requesting a page move

In the following, replace PageName with the name of the page to be moved; NewName with your proposed name; and reason for move with some text explaining your proposal.

Step 1:  Add the request to the list on this page

a.  To aid the administrators, add a line with the day's date on it directly under the heading of the Current proposals subsection, if it has not already been added for this day.

The line should look like:
===[[Day# Month]] [[Year]]===

Using today's date as an example: ===[[7 November]] [[2024]]===

b.  To enter a request for a single page to be moved to a new name, add the following two lines at the top of the section under the date line (the second line consists of four hyphens) :

* [[PageName]] → '''[[NewName]]''' — reason for move — [[Talk:PageName]] — ~~~~
----

A handy way to do this is to write the following on an empty line:
{{subst:WP:RM|PageName|NewName|reason for move}}
which will include all the necessary formatting, including your signature. Don't forget the "subst:" at the beginning!

c.  Include the page's name in your edit summary. Save this page.
Step 2:  Add the move template to talk page

Enter the following text at the top of the talk page of the page you want moved:

{{move|NewName}}

If you think a page should be moved, but don't yet know what name it should be given, you can use {{moveoptions}} instead to indicate that there are several options to discuss.

Step 3:  Create a place for discussion

If one does not already exist, create a section on the talk page of the page you want moved for discussion. This can take any form that is reasonable for administrators to follow, but copying the following is suggested. The reason for move should be copied from the entry on the WP:RM page:


==Requested move==
PageName → NewName – {reason for move with signature} copied from the entry on the [[WP:RM]] page
===Survey===
:''Add *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''' followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ''<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>

===Discussion===
:''Add any additional comments''


If you are proposing that multiple closely related pages should all be moved for the same reason (see #Multiple page moves), it may be advisable to create this discussion on only a single talk page and provide links from the other talk pages to this centralized discussion.

Please include "move proposal" or similar in the edit summary and don't mark it as minor. Consider checking the "Watch this page" box to follow the page in your watchlist. Save the page.

What to do on the article page

If the move you are suggesting is uncontroversial – for example, it is correcting spelling or capitalisation – then update the article's text to reflect the article's new title. For example, if the article were at Blah Blah, but should be at Blah blah, then if the opening sentence began "Blah Blah is a...", you would update it to "Blah blah is a...".

Current proposals

Please list new proposals at the top of today's section (November 7) in the format described above. Actual discussions should take place on the listed talk page, not here.

28 July 2006

27 July 2006

-- Donald Albury(Talk) 22:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Prejudiced move lacking integrity. there is already an ongoing vote. This vote should be cancelled until the page is moved back and the possibility of cancelling the ongoing vote is discussed on the talk page. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 16:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
On the contrary, this vote follows the proper WP:RM procedures, while the previous one did not.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus  talk  17:12, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Piotrus, that isn't true. But even if it were, it is not up to Balcer to single-handily reverse Wiki vote results. Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) 17:21, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The extensive discussion on the article talk page clearly indicated that it was not only me that was unhappy with the move, so accusations of "single-handedness" are off the mark. The best way to resolve the issue is to roll back the move for which there clearly was no concensus and to follow proper RM procedure that I initiated here. Balcer 17:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What entitles you to do any of this - to institute a new, self conceived "move poll-cum-discussion" lasting less than a day, move page back and institute another poll - a day after previous approval poll was over and administrator had exercised his discretion to move the page to Jogaila? This guideline states one thing quite plainly: "page moves take place after five (5) days under discussion on the talk page of the article to be moved, or earlier at the discretion of an administrator. The time for discussion may be extended if a consensus has not emerged." You have violated the 5 day requirement; in setting up the one day "poll" you have disregarded the procedure for requesting move laid out on this page, and you have disregarded the decision admin made within his discretionary powers a day or so earlier. What entitles you to do any of that? --Doc15071969 18:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that the previous move did not follow them, as it was not even a proper WP:RM. The page should not be moved other then through a proper WP:RM, all other moves should be reverted on spot since it became clear the name is controversial.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  19:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

26 July 2006

Because WP guidelines on disambiguation and on the wikiproject TV episodes, clearly point that it is better to avoid the parenthesis when the title of the episode doesn't belong to anything else. The format and content of the article are enough indication of the topic being a TV episode and the tencency on episode list articles' wikis is to hide disambiguation parenthesis anyway. The same problem happened with the rest of the currently developed articles about Batman: The Animated Series episodes all because a user recently moved all the articles with no parenthesis in the same manner T-man, the wise 00:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Pages in the same situation are:

  2. Christmas With the Joker
  3. It's Never Too Late
  4. I've Got Batman In My Basement
  5. The Cat and the Claw: Part I
  6. The Cat and the Claw: Part II
  7. Heart of Ice
  8. Beware The Gray Ghost
  9. Feat of Clay: Part I
  10. Feat of Clay: Part II
  11. Joker's Favor
  12. Fear of Victory
  13. Almost Got 'Im
  14. The Man Who Killed Batman

...All those redirects must be erased and the pages named with the unnecesary parenthesis disambiguation moved with the proper title, according to the naming conventions. Most episode articles are not developed yet, so we are on good time to fix this little problem.

Also backing me up on my point is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Episode articles--T-man, the wise 16:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

===>Note: I moved the ones that are struck through, as they had improper capitalization anyway. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 23:36, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Gordano → Gordano Valley … i.e. keep but reverse the redirect. More descriptive/accurata/complete name, plus it frees up Gordano for future disambig purposes should anyone want to write an article on the Gordano Mway services, the Gordano National Nature Reserve, Gordano School etc SP-KP 08:11, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

25 July 2006

  • Nogeun-ri → No Gun Ri … Rationale: It was at No Gun Ri until a contributor suddenly moved it, without discussion. I object to the move. "No Gun Ri" gets 8 million hits in Google, and Nogeun-ri only a few hundred. The most easily recognizable English language version of the name should be used. Please move it back, somebody. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Nogeun-ri --Uncle Ed 13:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Headlight → Headlamp — Rationale: "Headlamp" properly refers to the device. "Headlight" properly refers to the beam of light produced by the device. The article is predominantly about the devices, therefore "Headlamp" should be the primary article and "Headlight" should be redirected to "Headlamp"; the opposite is presently the case. Please share your opinion at Talk:Headlight. Thank you. Scheinwerfermann 03:07, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Pirates of the Caribbean (theme park ride) → Pirates of the Caribbean … Rationale: With little or no discussion on the talk page, a Wikipedian by the name of ContagiousTruth decided to move the article and then make "Pirates of the Caribbean" a disambiguation page. However, all this user did was move the page, then redirect "Pirates of the Caribbean" to "Pirates of the Caribbean (disambiguation)." The "Pirates of the Caribbean (theme park ride)" article should be moved back because the user that moved it did not take the time to discuss this with other users to give them a chance to decide. This move requires the move of an administrator because it cannot be moved back to a title that still exists. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Pirates of the Caribbean (theme park ride). —Lyght 02:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

24 July 2006

23 July 2006

  • Sight hound → Sighthound – Sighthound is without a doubt in more common usage, especially in American English, and Sighthound should be the proper page. This will also correspond with current Wiki usage of sighthound in other dog breed, coursing and related articles. There appears to be a consensus on this, see current Sight Hound article Discussion and Move Proposal.

Administrator please resolve this issue by facilitating the move, Sight hound → Sighthound, or advise further steps. --216.168.124.50 20:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

22 July 2006

* Foreign relations of the Republic of Turkey → Foreign relations of Turkey … Rationale: Naming conventions (most common name), precedent with all other Foreign relations of X pages, etc. -Justin (koavf), talk, mail 13:39, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have added this back to the top of the list, as procedure was not followed and discussion could not take place. --liquidGhoul 10:26, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Backlog

21 July 2006

  • Luxembourg (city) → Luxembourg City … Rationale: Although 'Luxembourg' is the official name of the city, it is not a particularly common term; the common term is 'Luxembourg City' (mostly internationally) or 'the City' (domestically: d'staad, la ville, die stadt). Other than the city, 'Luxembourg' by itself can mean the country, the district, the canton, or (sometimes, particularly historically) the city centre. Analogous cities include New York City, Kuwait City, and Mexico City, which use the formula being proposed. Six days ago, I left a message on the talk page (not realising that the 'Luxembourg City' page had already been edited twice), but it has been unanswered. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Luxembourg (city). —Bastin 22:29, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Jay Cohen to Jay R. Cohen - Jay R. Cohen is the name of this person (I corrected the only link to him in Sidney M. Cohen). Unfortunately I created a new page a few months before I tried to move it. Jay Cohen is the given name of the offshore gambling operator who was the first person to be jailed for operating an offshore online gambling operation after indictment in 1998 (I have now finished an article about him). This Cohen is very topical again due to the arrest of David Carruthers, and he does not have a known middle initial. imgroup 22:03, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

20 July 2006

  • Gaia theory (science) → Gaia hypothesis … Rationale: I was under the impression the Gaia hypothesis is more generally considered a hypothesis than a theory. I.e. it does not hold enough universial support to be considered a 'scientific truth' and have theory status. That and the opening text refers to it as a hypothesis. References to it as a theory seem to come only from the loose non-scientific linguistic use of the word theory to be equivalent to idea. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Gaia theory (science). —krebbe 18:48, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

19 July 2006

  1. Soyuz is Russian, and in Russia the term "Launch Vehicle" is not used
  2. The titling of all rocket articles is a mess, but (rocket) appears to be the most common version
  3. A proposed Naming convention would support this
    … Please share your opinion at Talk:Soyuz launch vehicle. —GW_Simulations|User Page | Talk | Contribs | E-mail 21:30, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

as reasons without further discussion. Some users don't agree on that move. … Please share your opinion at Talk:Sega CD. —32X 13:18, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sfacets 12:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

18 July 2006

In the Marvel Universe Handbook Master Edition from 1992 it has Battle Star as two separate words but Thunderbolts #41 from 1997 has a single word Battlestar as does the Marvel Universe section of Marvel.com here (Battlestar) and the Marvel Directory entry here (Battlestar) which both take their spelling cues from his later appearances. --Basique 02:41, 21 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a way to speed up this move? The name Battlestar (comics) was confirmed in a comic book that came out this week, Civil War: Frontline #4. --Basique 22:29, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Dutch fight against water → History of flooding in the Netherlands ? … Rationale: The current name starts with the definite article, against Wikipedia's naming conventions, but even "Dutch fight against water" sounds silly. Its original name was "Dutch fight against the water", which is just as bad. It was moved to "History of flooding in the Netherlands" briefly in May, but the name was changed to the current one with the reasoning "in many (Dutch) encyclopedias it's called 'the fight against...' not 'history of flooding...'". But this is an English-language encyclopedia, and the current name just sounds bad in English. … Please share your opinion at Talk:The Dutch fight against water. —User:Angr 09:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

17 July 2006

After which, 2006 Israel-Hamas crisis should be merged into it. 132.205.44.134 23:07, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Procedure for admins

See Wikipedia:Moving guidelines for administrators.

Additional notes

Multiple page moves

For single page moves with more than one option for the destination name:

For block moves:

An example of how to request to move a block of pages:

Another example of how to request to move a block of pages:

Relevant policies and guidelines

In discussing a page move, or making a move request, please consider following Wikipedia policies and guidelines:

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