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Back with improvements

Thank you all visitors to this page over the past month very much for all the kind messages and kind thoughts. The page archive referring to this time is a delight! This is to let you know that I'm at least semi-back, and greatly improved too, with a fine new major spare part. (What a world, where such things are possible.) I see it's about time, too. Poor Lady C, much honoured for her efforts, is obviously starting to unravel, or burn out, or whatever the current idiom is for nervous exhaustion. No wonder! I understand that her butler/chauffeur whatever-his-name-is-at-the-moment is, even as I post this message, driving her down to a beautiful secluded luxury clinic in the depths of Devon, with a superior twelve-step program. It sounds quite perfect for a lovely long rest cure (I selected it myself). Thank you all again! Improved Bishonen | talk 20:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Welcome back! Nikkimaria (talk) 20:08, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome back Bishonen! Thank you for the wonderful news! Take care. And since I know that this strange little Cathy lady is hopelessly myopic and cannot read this, I want to congratulate you for not only escaping from the torture of her decrepit cruise ship but also for putting her in the sanatorium. Well done! P.S. Don't forget to throw away the key. Dr.X. Anonymous mode 21:57, 17 October 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks, dr anon. I'm a little nonplussed to see, above, that they've apparently let her out; how did that happen? Or, I know: perhaps she's merely editing from a "smartphone" or similar device that she has somehow managed to smuggle in. I shall speak to the management and make it clear that such distractions can only delay the unfortunate dear's restoration to full health, which I expect will (sadly) take quite a while anyway. Improved Bishonen | talk 22:54, 17 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Thank you Bishonen. I agree. Let's hope that the Ka of Khufu guides her. These grand-ole dames are typically incorrigible. One can only hope that after years of intensive treatment she may finally be able to glimpse some semblance of normalcy. But given her record of delusions of grandeur this is more easily said than done. I can only pray for her poor dependants, the butler and the chauffeur. Dr.X. Anonymous mode 23:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'd settle for the Ka of Cthulhu. Improved Bishonen | talk 00:20, 18 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]
<trying to (unsuccessfully) recover from the laughs> Great form! Thank you. Take care.:) Dr.X. Anonymous mode 00:24, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delighted to see your you're semi-back! Not to mention your health and "parts", which no lady would do. Not of course that I'm claiming to be a Lady, but on the Internets no-one knows you're a ....... um, tetrapod? . . dave souza, talk 22:00, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Dave. "Your semi-back"? That must refer to the type of dress worn by Lady C at the charivaris and other orgies festivities at the Pallazzo Splendido: a cherished, even though faintly nauseating, memory! Improved Bishonen | talk 23:37, 17 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Ah, beat me to the punch! It does indeed bring back memories of the old eye, a slogan all but lost to indelicate history. Them wuz the daze. . dave souza, talk 20:33, 18 October 2011 (UTC) Aha! Found a pic! dave souza, talk 20:41, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, MC. But have you seen this? I suggest you vote on the talkpage, lest they come for us in the night. Improved Bishonen | talk 23:09, 17 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Bishzilla has been disconsolate in your absence-- I think she's hungry-- but we're glad to see you (we, of course, is anyone who matters on the internet). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:48, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Sandy. I'm quite worried about Bishzilla. Some of the socks can fend for themselves, no doubt (I don't suppose the family that adopted the darwinbish ever realized how lucky they were that she merely bit them and ran away),[1] but Bishzilla is a sensitive soul… or, no… no, she's not. But she has a certain strain of reverence for authority (utterly missing in the darwinbish), especially as represented by Lady C. This link, posted by Lady C herself earlier, shows the consequences of Lady C (I must say, a little thoughtlessly) putting up all the socks for adoption. Naturally, Bishzilla was adopted within the hour by an ecstatic small boy. She was last seen glumly padding after him, at something of a loss, as you may imagine, and her dignity much impaired. Please send out rescue parties! Improved Bishonen | talk 18:22, 18 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Ah, Antandrus... lately swallowed whole by the darwinbish, illustrating the dangers of fraternising or indeed coming too close. I still can't fathom how she achieved such a feat, even for a moment. Are you extremely small, Antandrus? Or is it possible that the db is actually getting bigger, out of pure meanness? There's a thought to stop the clocks. Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, the blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and so on. Please say you're unusually small of stature, Antandrus! Improved Bishonen | talk 18:22, 18 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]
I've never met Antandrus, but he edits like he's at least 6-foot-4. MastCell Talk 18:51, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well exactly! I feel that too. That's why this incident is so frightening. Db has to be either a lot bigger than anybody supposed, or almost infinitely elastic. One doesn't like to think about either possibility, really. Improved Bishonen | talk 21:24, 18 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]
In our local mountains, I once watched a snake swallow an entire trout. Fortunately, Db spared me the trout's fate, although I have a distinct memory of being taller (or maybe it was just my hair your Carboniferous pet devoured? I've wondered where it has gone). Like everyone on the internet, (everyone important, anyway), I am above-average in stature. Some days I can even reach the keyboard. Antandrus (talk) 01:08, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I had a brain transplant and I'm still editing..so get to work!!!MONGO 19:17, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Woot! This calls for a celebration! (how do you "improve" on Bishonen????) KillerChihuahua?!? 19:50, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
text=Time to celebrate!
text=Time to celebrate!
I think that this has all gone on long enough! Are we to start celebrating the return of every invalid with firworks and what not? Is every ingrowing toenail to be lauded and feted? To discusss one's health is vulgar - I have suffered may replacement parts without comment, fuss and complaint. While I am sure Mr Souza's very colourful chrysanthemums (right) are appreciated (at least, by Mrs Bishonen and those sort of peope who like coloured flowers) I really feel we can dispense with all these tributes now and allow Mrs Bishonen who continue with her writing and work here - we don't want to over excite the invalid - do we? The Countess of Scrotum (De facto) (talk) 21:25, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hey now, those were my colorful fireworks, there. I'm guessing in spite of all your replacements, they still haven't found a working heart for you, then? KillerChihuahua?!? 21:32, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well I am very sorry dear, but you were misled in the shop, they are quite clearly chrysanthemums, and what's more you should not give invalids flowers as it deprives the sick room of oxygen (or some such gas) and causes the patient to suffocate. I always prefer a nice bottle of wine. The Countess of Scrotum (De facto) (talk) 21:42, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think you understand the situation here KC. Her majesty classifies as a Ka. She has no corporeal substance. Her Ka resides in the same burial chamber as Kufu's at the yet undiscovered bottom of his great pyramid. In addition her statements are the product of intense education at the world's most exclusive private schools where she excelled in all subjects but in particular proper manners and etiquette. Can you not discern her superior and subtle intellect as reflected in her delicate comments? You didn't see me here Anonymous mode 21:49, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, gotcha. So, no heart then. No brain, either. :-) KillerChihuahua?!? 21:56, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Of course not. At least not in the way mere mortals understand these things. :) You didn't see me here Anonymous mode 22:00, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Mr Chihuahua, I am not quite sure whether you in your exultation alluded to Mr Mongo's frivolous comment, but in that case, the spelling should be "ceRebration". Respectfully, Swedophile (talk) 10:38, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I too am very glad to see you back, and wish you a continued recovery. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 15:20, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't misunderstand me, I too am more than delighted to see poor little Mrs Bishonen back; I just hope that she's not been sufocated by all these flowers and peculier people - I don't trust half of them - that puppy woman for instance - nasty, yappy little dogs are Chihuahuas never trust a little man or a little dog, I always say; and as for that Dr Kiernan - well enough said - nothing to admire about the medical profession - all this just "slip your clothes off and I'll examine you" - I know their kind and their ulterior motives, and those that don't have ulterior motives are butchers wanting to swop body parts about - poor little Mrs Bishonen went in with a mere soar throat, and has come out with a head transplant - even her own mother doesn't recognise her - where is it all going to end? The Countess of Scrotum (De facto) (talk) 20:48, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your Majesty with all due respect I want to point out that regretfully you have got my name wrong. Also, although a Dr., I am not a medical one. So rest assured the only contact we will ever experience, if at all, is through my prayers that your ethereal Ka may leave us in peace find its rightful place among the other great Kas at oblivion Ka-rnak. Dr.X. Anonymous mode 21:37, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • That's excellent news, Bish, particularly that you survived the tender mercies of Lady Catherine de Scrotum Rollbacker (Senior Health Care Professional). Lady Catherine, should I ever require a strong, handsome, muscular, male professional live-in nurse, I trust I may call upon your services recommendation. SlimVirgin TALK|CONTRIBS 16:02, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Geogre

As you are an editor who has participated in previous discussions on the same or closely related topics, I though that WP:CANVASS would allow me to bring this: Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2011 October 18#File:Geogre-1.png to your attention (and those of the TPWs). Naturally, this is a neutrally worded notification intended only "to improve the quality of the discussion by broadening participation to more fully achieve consensus", and anything that you may find at User:RexxS#Geogre should not be construed as intended to influence your views in any way. --RexxS (talk) 12:46, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Mmm. Gosh, that's one ugly pic. No, I don't think I'm ready to go on the warpath on its behalf, and I'm sure Geogre himself doesn't care. I thought for just a moment there that you meant someone had MfD'd User:Geogre/Comic. Now that I'd defend with my dying breath. Improved Bishonen | talk 17:30, 18 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]
I think it's a delightful portrait; it reminds me of my cousin Dippy's engagement portrait on the frontispiece of Country Life, such a beautiful girl. The Countess of Scrotum (De facto) (talk) 21:38, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Speaking of portraits, just re-read a delightful pen-portrayal of an episode in the life of Lord Monckton's retainer, any relation? . . dave souza, talk 21:35, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A "wrinkled retainer" named you-know-what? Interesting. That'll be either the man himself, or his father. Anyway, do keep it out of Lady C's way if you possibly can; the ancient lineage of the blue you-know-what blood is one of the mainstays of her poise. It figgers out very well, except for the bewildering statement that you-know-who "seldom swore". I can't resolve that one.. but perhaps the author added it at random, just to fill out his somewhat trite style with the usual ballast. (P. S, I went on to enjoy the Danish tale: " “Scrøtum! Where åre my bøøts?” Excellent stuff.) Improved Bishonen | talk 01:02, 23 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Bishzilla

One of the PLA's finest

I have just intercepted a radio transmission from the Port of London Authority. It appears they have received reports of a "very large gecko" swimming about under Tower Bridge, and have sent one of their speediest craft, the salvage vessel "Crossness", to recover the poor critter. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC) [reply]

Elen, could you please contact the salvage vessel somewhat urgently and alert them to the possibility of a little boy being towed after the gecko, holding on to a leash? He would be a mere dot in the context, and mostly underwater at that, but this could be simply Bishzilla's affectionate adopter taking his new pet for some water exercise. I worry about the marine services accidentally hurting him or worse. P.S. Recover her with that? How do they figure? It's practically a dinghy. Bishonen with room for improvements | talk 09:10, 19 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Have spoken with the River police. Apparently Bishzilla decided that the Crossness and her sister ship the Hookness had been provided as bath toys, and has spent the last few hours playing with them. The working cranes were particularly gratifying - hopefully they are not completely beyond repair. The RNLI lifeboat out of Chiswick Pier has happily rescued the crews, and the London Fire Brigade has recovered Bishzilla's young custodian from his perch on a stanchion of Westminster Bridge, where it appears 'zilla had temporarily (mis)placed him. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 11:42, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That image caption was rather confusing to me, as I'm used to "PLA" standing for something rather different. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 13:39, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The solution to all Wikipedia's problems

Hi Bishonen, the template that i added was intended as a joke; in response to your "indignation". (i thought someone might remove it though :)

- Benzband (talk) 15:29, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh I see. Cool. :-) In itself it's a destructively humour-deprived thing, and much too much in-your-face. I've seen it used in all seriousness so many times that I reacted on autopilot, I guess. Sorry to have underestimated you, Benzband! Improved Bishonen | talk 21:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]

OMG my sister's getting bigger out of pure meanness!

Help me! [Little Darwinfish flees, fleet of foot. Huge Darwinbish gallumphs after him, but is fortunately somewhat hampered by her size. ] darwinfish 23:05, 21 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Er.. sis? Is that you..?


Don't worry, little Fish, you had a nightmare, that's all. I checked on Darwinbish, and she's her usual size. Or, at least.. well, she definitely resumed her usual size after I stared her down some. She may have a certain ability to induce scary hallucinations, then, but I'm pretty sure she can't actually become huge. Improved Bishonen | talk 15:04, 22 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Very belated get-well message

Not a northern European species, but it will do!

Delighted you're on the pathway back to full editing duties. I think of those American war posters with a difference ... "Wikipedia needs you". Tony (talk) 08:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC) [reply]

The original, British version

Oh dear Tony, wrong on both accounts. The rose cultivar was bred by W. Kordes' Sons in Germany; the poster is a British one, later ripped off by the Yanks. Good to have you back, Bishonen. From a pedantic lurker.

Thank you both very much. Enjoy my being sweet and nice(-ish) while you may, it's drawing to an end! I'm heading rapidly back to fully recovered and as disagreeable as ever. Bishonen | talk 15:05, 23 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]


To be serious

I'm very worried about Orangemarlin. I e-mailed him before my own health break, and got no reply. I hope he has merely beaten the addiction and sauntered off to enjoy himself. Anybody got any (non-classified) information, please tell me here, or by e-mail if that's more appropriate. Antandrus? Hans? Risker? Bishonen | talk 23:00, 23 October 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Just mailing you. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:06, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I also worry about him; anyone willing to share please e-mail me, if he's indicated that's OK. Antandrus (talk) 23:11, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, I've received word, emailing you Ant. KillerChihuahua?!? 23:35, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Same here, thanks much. KillerChihuahua?!? 23:14, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you as well. Antandrus (talk) 00:08, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A cupcake for you!

Too quiet around here. How is the Bish-pack and their new parts? Hope all is functioning like it is supposed to! Tex (talk) 15:35, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Bishapod, get out of there right now! It's for me ! Sigh.. gone. Lemme explain something to you, you <PA removed> little sock! If a cupcake is for you it'll be delivered to your talkpage, get it? Bishonen | talk 19:08, 8 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
[Bishapod slinks off, elated, not ashamed. Licking his chops. ] bishapod splash! 19:12, 8 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
And you're using a fork now, Pod? What's that about? Bishonen | talk 19:15, 8 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
It is a multi toothpick, obviously... LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Too big for sis's sharp little teeth. That's clearly a POV fork! darwinfish 16:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
(Yet another pedantic joke from the twin with the nerdy sense of fun. Try to smile, everybody, the Fish has confidence issues! And sig coding issues.. Rex, help, what happen?)
"[Bishapod slinks off, elated, not ashamed. Licking his chops. ]" ... so I'm guessing that the use of chop sticks will be next? Glad the health issues got resolved Ms. Bishonen. :) — Ched :  ?  17:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was a good joke and DF needs to be encouraged. The font changes don't work properly if they go across a link [[ or ]], so DF needs something like this:
  • [[User:Darwinfish|<font color="darkblue">'''darwin'''</font>]][[User talk:Darwinfish|<sup><font color="firebrick">'''fish'''</font></sup>]] 16:12, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
which produces:
Hopefully that will fix the problem for him. --RexxS (talk) 17:31, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Work good, thank you Rex! And look, I now have e-mail enabled, did that myself! :-) [Faintly embarrassed, DF makes a daring new departure: ] Us nerds a brotherhood, help each other! Please let me know if I can resolve some coding issue for you, mr Rex! Any time! darwinfish 19:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
How do you nerd a brotherhood? Introduce Masons to computer geeks? LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:27, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A kitten for you!

I've just found this dreadful thing at the top of my task bar and immediatly thought of you - this is the most horrible looking one

Giacomo Returned 18:59, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


PS: Oh I see now [2], I have to wikilove it from your taskbar not mine. This is all too stressful. What sort of person goes about sending pictures of other people's kittens to each other anyway? Fucking stupid! Giacomo Returned 19:05, 12 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh noes, not that kitten! That's darwinbish's evil kitten! She's been training it as her personal lifeguard and torpedo ever since Jehochman thoughtlessly sent it to her. [3] Notice the threatening posture, the fur standing on end like quills upon the fretful porpentine, the sharp little teeth. That's a dangerous kitten.
You sent it to yourself? Chortle.. :-D Just one of its evil tricks! Watch out, it's lurking in your history even as we do speak! Bishonen | talk 19:39, 12 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
P.S. Ha, I've got rid of its sekrit wormhole in my taskbar! "To disable WikiLove, go to the editing tab in your preferences, and uncheck the box next to "Enable showing appreciation for other users with the WikiLove tab (experimental)" under Labs features. Then click Save." Bishonen | talk 19:50, 12 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Redwoods

Hi Bishonen...hope you're recovering well. Thank you for keeping vigil over the Redwood National and State Parks article...I saw the vandalism but during business hours here in ever exciting Omaha, Nebraska, USA, all I have is my glacially slow Blackberry...so about all I can do is leave a talkpage comment or two...BTW...the short article I did about the 2011 Oklahoma earthquake is currently at DYK on the mainpage...I started the article after feeling the tremor many hundreds of miles from the epicenter...thanks again!MONGO 17:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ha. Yeah I thought I'd better cover for Frutti, he seems to be on a bit of a break.. considering the names the little rascal put in — names of classmates, perhaps? — I thought it better reverted promptly. Good earthquake article, and it sounds like a good earthquake, too! Not least, it's got far and away the best hook currently on the mainpage. (I stared unbelievingly at the musical one for a few moments. Words fail me.) Is it yours? Bishonen | talk 17:38, 16 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Well, thank you! Actually my last DYK was immediately rejected as a hoax! That was weird...all it stated was that DYK....that Bigfoot is actually an interplanetary space beast who has a palatial mansion well hidden within Redwood National and State Parks? One reviewer said that was preposterous...another threatened to block me for "vandalizing"....geez, of all the nerve!MONGO 18:19, 16 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Maria Amélia of Brazil

Hello, Bishonen. Could you be kind and tell me what are the "other problems besides the prose" in Princess Maria Amélia of Brazil? Regards, --Lecen (talk) 14:00, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. I'm a slow writer, as MONGO knows, but I'll cc you my message to him, once I get it written. (I'm using e-mail for my observations because the FAC procedure is over and done with.) Bishonen | talk 20:13, 17 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Look at my talk page. On the top and at the far right of "User talk:Lecen" you'll see the small icon that you can use to send me an e-mail. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 12:24, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Mhm, right. So I can, and so can you. I'm a little surprised that you asked me for a favour and then ignored my request that you send an e-mail from the Wiki interface, thus providing your address, so that I could more easily forward my existing mail to you. For all I know, it may be too long for wiki e-mailing, also. Would it be simpler if I posted my comments publicly? Bishonen | talk 20:55, 18 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Since you told me that you wanted to send me a copy of the e-mail I thought it would be easier to you to send me directly through here. I was not trying to make anything harder for you. On the contrary. You can also post it here. Whatever suits you best. --Lecen (talk) 21:09, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Love in a Tub

Hi Bishonen,
A long time ago (in 2004), you introduced an image (File:Love in a Tub.png) from George Etherege's play Love in a Tub, which is used in particular in Restoration comedy. For the time being, I'm editing its equivalent in French (fr :Comédie de la Restauration anglaise), but, unfortunately, this picture is only available inside English Wikipedia. I didn't want to bother you, and I browsed extensively Internet in order to find your source. In vain...
It would be very kind of you to put this image in Commons or give me your source ?
Regards — Please answer at :Talk to Papier K
— Papier K (talk) 22:47, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied on your French page. Bishonen | talk 01:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Thank you Bishonen for your answer ☺. I hoped you got this picture from an old book. If it comes from a modern one, I don't think it would be fit for acceptance in Wikipedia nowadays, even if this picture is, in all likelihood according to its style, a frontispiece of an eighteenth-century edition. I got several of them in downloaded free books (The Double Dealer, The Beaux' Stratagem, The Rehearsal), and I strongly hoped it was such the case. Too bad ! — Papier K (talk) 04:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Queluz National Palace

Hi Bishonen. This was unintentional. I've been trying to correct a string of problematic edits by Lumastan (talk · contribs). They're recurring problems and since I've explained a number of my reverts on his talk page, I don't write detailed explanations on each talk page. I just wanted to revert prior to his addition of a gallery on Queluz National Palace and assumed that your edit was a partial revert of his. Cheers, Pichpich (talk) 16:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Thank you for being the best admin ever as well as the most accomplished featured article writer. You are truly an inspiration, Bishy. Wikipedia wouldn't be Wikipedia without you. Happy belated Thanksgiving!! NWA.Rep (talk) 16:42, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[Swig swig swig, burp.] Thank you very much, NWA! I could easily disprove all those zany statements, but that would be ungracious, wouldn't it? :-) Bishonen | talk 20:35, 26 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Giano wanted to send you a treat

The ceremonial opening of the season's first tin of surströmming. Enlarge to fully appreciate guarded expression on face of girl smelling the treat. See article Surströmming for why the ceremony is taking place out of doors.

... but seems to have forgotten. Here it is anyway. --Famously Sharp (talk) 01:43, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, the very thing to make my beer relish, thanks Famously! Mind you, the real deal is delicious Swedish decomposing herring (surströmming); not some weird Laotian fish. Bishonen | talk 14:27, 27 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]


Featured article review for The Relapse

I have nominated The Relapse for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Brad (talk) 17:04, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bah! Tex (talk) 14:06, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bah indeed. Thanks for comments regarding my own dreadful prose and use of peacock terms; I cannot comment on yours because I was not aware that your prose and vocabulary was so dreadful. Anyway, Hans seems to be doing a sterling job on your behalf in that dreadful place. I'm afraid that what they want is some muddled writing by 49 editors of varying education and nationality which then gets sort of shaken about in a bag to give an impression that Wikipedia has a vague idea understanding of the subject which it's supposed to be covering. Taling of prose, I was quite suprised to see Ms Boomer uses the word "gotten" [4] - when I was learning to write English there was a list of words which we apparently alright to say, but were never, never ever to be written, but then again it seems that most native English speakers never do learn to write their own language properly. I wish I could rmemeber all the words in that list - "get, got, gotten..." and on it went, until one rhymingly arrived at that perfectly inofensive word "nice" which presumably showed that one was deeply down market and lacking in vocabulary. Strange lot the English speaking world - I wonder who would know what that list is or was - I must ask around. Giacomo Returned 10:36, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I wouldn't bother "Bah!"ing unless you are a star collector (or star hoarder I suppose). On the plus side List of former featured articles with the subtitle "Virtue in Danger" may soon be able to join its indomitable sister article (you know which one I mean). Or even better, Bish could give us a repeat of the official "best archive ever". Yomanganitalk 14:08, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, Yo man, I'd forgotten about that 2007 thread. I do believe its header has stood the test of time. :-) Giacomo, thank you very much, but please give over quoting what you were told in school in 1805; "gotten" is perfectly cromulent in informal written English, such as the English written in Wikipedia space. In American written English in Wikipedia space it may well be the preferred form. Not so much in mainspace, I agree.
Hans is brilliant at that kind of thing, isn't he? I felt I understood the article better myself after he'd chimed in. :-) Anyway. Don't you agree, Giacomo, that whenever you're drawn into posting on FAR, you come to regret it? I know I do, but never more than this time. There was nothing wrong with the nomination, I thought (except that incomprehensible "reads like a review", which might indeed have alerted me). So I took hours to write a response to it, with various good-faith and good-will suggestions for updating the referencing (yes, suggestions for doing it myself, I wouldn't seriously expect anybody else to). And all I got from the nominator for my trouble was a pie in the face. Oh well. I suppose it's nobody's fault but my own that I'm such a slow worker. Or that I was too stupid to check out the nominator's driveby tagging of the article, because that is truly ... out of the way. That would have alerted me. Linking to WP:SOAP? I wonder if he thinks I wrote the play myself, or some friend of mine did? Clearly I'm most un-encyclopedically keen to promote it, anyway. Surely an article like that ought to be proposed for deletion rather than merely de-featuring? Bishonen | talk 20:38, 6 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Oh! I thought you had written the play yourself. I don't understand all this medical terminology, I thought you did. I've never had a days illness in my life - apart from my "problem." Giacomo Returned 21:10, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oh! Well, don't worry too much about your problem. You're containing it by sticking to Italian wines, aren't you? I've been credibly informed that those don't cause intoxication. Bishonen | talk 22:06, 6 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
It seems that Billy Connolly would not share your credulity. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKMQKgSnGy8 . Cin cin & Skål --RexxS (talk) 22:40, 6 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Special thanks for the Dutch subtitles, which added further flavour. :-) But as for my credulity, not so; please see my edit summary ! Bishonen | talk 23:07, 6 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Apology

I apologise for not placing my comments in a section of their own, but they were not "badgering" remarks. So while I take your point, I don't like removal of comments I have made myself (which were made under provocation) by an editor on another editors talk-page, even if it was not meant to be so, it comes across as slightly nannyish, and you could have asked "do you have to poke someone back?" which would have described things more accurately. Can I take it that you think fairness and understanding both sides is a good thing? If so then could you make that more apparent in your comments. Other editors have had a lot to put up with also. In any event I had offered an apology to OM (on Boris's talk page) to defuse tension (though as far as I am aware it hasn't as yet been been acknowledged or accepted) .DMSBel (talk) 17:23, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of User:NWA.Rep/Andre DeAngelo Wallace Jr

User:NWA.Rep/Andre DeAngelo Wallace Jr, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:NWA.Rep/Andre DeAngelo Wallace Jr and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:NWA.Rep/Andre DeAngelo Wallace Jr during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Sven Manguard Wha? 09:41, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edit

The page you linked to in your edit summary reads: "The Wikipedia community strongly discourages simulating the MediaWiki interface, except on the rare occasion when it is necessary for testing purposes." ... "Inappropriate internal or external links that unexpectedly direct the reader to unreasonable locations or violate prohibitions on linking may also be removed or remedied by any user." and finally "Joke "You have new messages" notifications (the orange bar) are frowned upon by the community."

Therefore I think that the removal I performed is quite justified. Barts1a | Talk to me | Yell at me 00:45, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Barts, "frowned upon" is not the same as "prohibited". You really haven't got much of a leg to stand on here (the link also doesn't go to an "unreasonable location"). I, for one, think the community should prohibit joke messages of this sort, as they're annoying as all get-out, but as yet it has not done so. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 00:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Bart, you need a good reason to mess with other people's userpages, and a really excellent reason to throw around words like "disruptive". It's not all right to be disrespectful to a user just because everybody else is getting on his case at the moment. There are actual people behind the wiki usernames, you know. In practically every case, well-meaning people. There is certainly no consensus to remove those banners, and the recent Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:NWA.Rep makes it clear that fewer people than ever think they need to be removed. See also discussion on WT:USER. As for the compromise formulation in WP:USER about "frowning" on them: go ahead and frown, but don't remove. Please take example by how I didn't remove your comment on NWA's talkpage, even though I thought it a pointless and hurtful repetition of what a lot of other people have already said, and with an uncompromisingly silly header. (I'd recommend you to remove the comment yourself, though. It doesn't make you look good.) Bishonen | talk 01:05, 14 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Did you know that wikipedia is NOT pre-school? People need do be able to handle both the good and the bad. You do not need to hold their hand in order for them to stay here. Your comment of "It's not all right to be disrespectful to a user just because everybody else is getting on his case at the moment" doesn't make any sense considering that this user is SUPPOSED to be under an INCREDIBLE amount of scrutiny for EVERY action they make at the moment as an ArbCom nominee. If they erupt into allcaps rages over the usual arbcom nominee past digging then maybe they should not be standing in the first place! Barts1a | Talk to me | Yell at me 01:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(double ec's)Wow, fine cliché collection there. Have you really not noticed the arbcom election is over? Just stop messing with that page and save yourself a lot of grief. I'm done for tonight, it's very late where I am. I hope there are more eyes on this. Bishonen | talk 01:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
PS, I see below that there are. :-) Bishonen | talk 01:52, 14 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Bart, did you consult your mentor concerning this matter. I would recommend doing that first.—cyberpower (X-Mas Chat)(Contrib.) 01:44, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Barts, if Wikipedia is NOT pre-school, might I suggest you act more maturely? Bishonen is giving you good advice here. If you find you're unable to accept it, you should consider backing away from the situation. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is my perspective in case anyone wants it: (1) I agree with Bishonen that removing stuff from other people's userspace is not OK just because it's "frowned upon", and I agree with Heimstern that joke message bars should be illegal, though unfortunately they are not. (2) As I just realised, NWA.Rep has the following statistics: 3 known accounts, 1 SNOW-closed RfA, 1 Arbcom case ending with sanctions (against himself and his opponent in a long-standing edit war), 5 net blocks and 1 joke Arbcom candidacy. (Editing statistics here. 9 edits to article (talk) space in 2011. 60 in 2010. 27 in 2009.) All that in the course of <4,500 edits, or slightly over 3,000 edits outside user (talk) space. If NWA.Rep were more active and had the same ratio, he would long have been banned. In fact, it's entirely possible that he has long been active under different personas, and has escaped the necessary site ban by switching between them simply because nobody realised it's always the same guy we are dealing with on ANI. By not showing such kids the door, we are creating an environment in which the really immature who alternate between vandalising and vandal fighting can rise to become incompetent admins who then block serious content contributors. On the German Wikipedia, "no discernible intent for encyclopedic collaboration" is a standard reason for indef blocks, often after a single-digit number of edits. I wish we would do this here as well. Hans Adler 02:01, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't coatrack a general complaint about NWA.Rep onto this discussion, Hans. If you think he needs to be banned, take it to WP:ANI or WP:RFC/U. You shouldn't weave socking accusations out of airy nothing on any forum, though. Or do you have any more concrete basis for them than your own belief that it's "entirely possible" that NWA has been active under different personas to escape a site ban? Do you have any possible sock/s/ in mind, with similar editing interests and style? I know him quite well — I've had many communications from him over a long time — and I've never seen anybody remotely DUCK-like to him discussed on ANI. I certainly don't think NWA is machiavellan enough to pretend to be "absent" while all the time disguising himself as someone with different speech habits and different hobby-horses. Anything but. He's hot-headed and says and does stupid stuff, including stuff against his own interests, when he's upset. That sort of thing never happened to Machiavelli's prince.
He has had a number of different account names, yes, but always afaik quite openly. They're not socks, they're consecutive. (I find the practice of changing account names now and then quite irritating, but lots of people do it, not excluding admins.) I agree that he's not one of our most useful editors, and if you think it's worth taking a ban proposal to the community, you may well get consensus for it. Be my guest. But I don't see the need to air hurtful random speculations in the process. (P.S. That wasn't a joke Arbcom candidacy. This is a joke Arbcom candidacy.) Bishonen | talk 17:31, 15 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Sorry. I see now that putting the above post on your talk page was in poor taste, and I apologise for it. I wasn't aware of your extensive communication with NWA.Rep when I wrote it, although I noticed it shortly afterward and half considered removing it when I did. In my mind I was primarily expressing frustration with the community's established use of extremely poor performance measures (absolute numbers that don't take activity levels into account) and meant my comment about socking in that context. I should not have expressed it in the form of wild speculation about any particular person. I am shocked to hear that NWA.Rep's candidacy was apparently not meant as a joke. It was certainly widely perceived as such. Hans Adler 17:47, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That's OK, Hans. I know what you mean about NWA's arbcom candidacy (the previous one — don't know if you saw he was a candidate in the recent election, too). He could hardly have had any expectation of being elected, really, but that doesn't mean either of his attempts were intended as jokes. I think he wanted a bigger audience for criticism that he meant very seriously. I didn't follow the activity on his election page this time round, but I know how upset he was when his userpage was nominated for deletion recently, and then was actually deleted, so I can imagine he showed his frustration at the election page too. (Bishzilla was serious, too.. but merely keeping up with the questions during the election was too much stress for her, so she jumped ship before the voting. Nevertheless, she got some "moral support" votes, lol.) Bishonen | talk 21:40, 15 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Participation chart

[5], [6], [7], [8] – Can you please explain what happened and why the rollback tool was used? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 14:33, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I guess I can only explain what I did. I noticed on my watchlist that Ebe123 had rolled back an edit by JohnUniq. From the Shakespeare pages, I know Johnuniq as a thoughtful and highly respectable editor, and could only suppose that Ebe had misclicked. Inspecting Johnuniq's edit confirmed me in that impression, so I rollbacked Ebe, i.e. reinstated Johnuniq's edit. After the discussion on the page, I see now how Ebe might possibly have done it on purpose. I still don't have any apology for rollbacking in my turn, though; if he did it deliberately, in that fashion, it was pretty abusive. I was very surprised to have my reinsertion of Johnuniq's edit reverted by Sven, and if I wasn't so busy IRL, I might have challenged him. Checking back later, I saw that User:Hot Stop had taken care of it. Only now do I see, from one or your links, that Sven reverted me by mistake. Thanks for that. Bishonen | talk 16:25, 15 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]

Pending changes

Talk:Robert_Byrd#Pending_changes – Can you please remove pending changes protection from the Robert_Byrd article? --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 14:55, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind. Risker took care of it. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 15:17, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to the middle of the encyclopedia

For the entire time that I've been editing Wikipedia, every time I see your name, I think of "welcome to the middle of the film" in Monty Python's The Meaning of Life only with every occurrence of fish replaced by Bish.

Ooooh, Bishy, Bishy, Bishy Bish! / A-Bish, a-Bish, a-Bish, a-Bishy, ooooh.

Brings a smile to my face every time I see your name.

I've no idea why I'm telling you this now, but please don't tell Bishzilla, or I might be eaten. --GraemeL (talk) 16:42, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hehe. That's one of my favorite movies of all time. Don't worry about Bishzilla, she doesn't watch this page that much. The evil little User:Darwinbish does, though. A visit from her would wipe the smile from from your face! Scary! :-( Bishonen | talk 17:31, 15 December 2011 (UTC).[reply]
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