Talk:Princess Peach

Peach, Mario and the other women

Would it be possible to expand the article, so that it goes more in depth on her relationship with Mario? I'd also like to see someone address similarities between Peach, Roselina and Paulina. FF3TerraAndLocke (talk) 06:17, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Unless it is sourced, it would be trivia. As for the similarities, I do not think it is neccessary. Androids101 | Visit me! | talk | contribs 07:21, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

"Partner"?

The article claims:

"...her best friend and partner is Princess Daisy."

Should, perhaps, the term 'partner' be clarified? Or perhaps I missed one of the Mario games out there... -Grammaticus Repairo (talk) 18:55, 7 April 2012 (UTC)

Can you tell me where that is? I'll gladly remove that claim. Androids101 | Visit me! | talk | contribs 07:21, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 July 2017

Jeremy Hur (talk) 01:38, 16 July 2017 (UTC) 

Actually, Princess Peach isn't be kidnapped always or often. She is kidnapped for about 34 times while she appeared at about for 99 games(And there are more games that Princess Peach is a playable character. These sources are big examples.). However, In introduction of Princess Peach Wikipedia article, 'She often plays the damsel in distress role within the series' is written on 2nd line of Princess Peach introduction part. I think 'She often plays the damsel in distress role within the series' needs to be changed to 'She often plays the damsel in distress role within the adventure series.' Because she is often kidnapped in Mario adventure series, but she is a playable character of Mario spin-off series and Super Smash bros. series.

And it needs to be added about Super Mario Run, in 'Appearance' part of Princess Peach Wikipedia article. In Super Mario Run, she is kidnapped in early phase. But after she is rescued by Mario, she becomes a playable character and goes to sweep Bowser. Also, she can travel great distances with a floaty jump. In case of Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, it will be released on August 2017. Princess Peach is a playable character of this game who has very well-balanced variable statistics. So please add about Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle after be released.

Thank you for reading these requests. And I'll be glad if you accept these requests.

Written on 2017-07-17 : I brought new sources. /source 1 : Super Smash bros. series/ /source 2 : Mario&Sonic Olympic games series, Mario golf series, Mario tennis series, and Dodgeball of Mario sports Mix/ /source 3 : Mario kart series/ /source 4 : Super Mario Run(Princess Peach gameplay)/. If these sources are reliable, please accept my requests. Thank you.

Written on 2017-07-20 : I brought 17 new sources from Nintendo's official sites and official sites of games. And I add a new source about Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle. If these sources are reliable, please accept my requests. Thank you.

References

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. MarioWiki is not a reliable source. Izno (talk) 02:03, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

YouTube also is not (broadly) a reliable source. --Izno (talk) 20:18, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2017

95.45.22.208 (talk) 11:40, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Princess Peach

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 12:22, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Written on August 3rd, 2017 : Here are my 2 requests about changes I want to be made.(I already brought 17 sources for my requests on July 20th, 2017. They are written on an above paragraph.)

1. Please change the sentence that is called 'She often plays the damsel in distress role within the series and is the lead female.' to 'She often plays the damsel in distress role within the adventure series and is the lead female.' . this sentence is written on introduction part of Princess Peach article ahead of the table of contents of Princess Peach article that is named Concept and creation.

Because Princess Peach is often kidnapped in Mario adventure series, but she is a playable character of Mario spin-offs series and Super Smash Bros. series.

2. In the table of contents of Princess Peach article that is named Appearances, please add this content.

: In Super Mario Run, she is kidnapped in early phase. But after she is rescued by Mario, she becomes a playable character and goes to sweep Bowser. Also, she can travel great distances with a floaty jump. In case of Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle, it will be released on August 29th, 2017. Princess Peach is a playable character of this game who has very well-balanced variable statistics.

This content can be proved as true with #16 and #17 sources that I wrote on an above paragraph.

If my these requests are acceptable, please change Princess Peach article according to my these requests. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremy Hur (talk • contribs) 11:13, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2017

24thale (talk) 01:53, 26 August 2017 (UTC)Her first appearance was in Super Mario Bros. She was not in the original arcade game Donkey Kong. That was Pauline, Mario's first love interest.

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 04:59, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 February 2019

Please include that she was previously named Princess Toadstool (in bold) in the introduction. 2601:647:CB02:5034:D877:84EE:B7DD:9BA8 (talk) 20:12, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. DannyS712 (talk) 21:42, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

"Mario woman in pink" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Not only Super Princess Peach, there is Princess Toadstool's Castel Run

Hi. Just wanted you to know that Peach owns 2 games :

"Super Princess Peach" in 2006, yes, but she also owns "Princess Toadstool's Castle Run", where she is the main character and the only playable character, so technically, this is her first game and the first time she was under the spotlights. The game was out in 90's on the Nelsonic and you can find the game on the Nelsonic page's games list (Wikipedia).

Sorry I'm not an English native so...--YeahbutJustSayin' (talk) 12:42, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

(+ she has her own manga : Otenba Peach-hime publish in 1992-1994) — Preceding unsigned comment added by YeahbutJustSayin' (talk • contribs) 13:13, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

This artwork is too old

Nintendo reworked on all main characters's artworks. This one doesn't represent exactly her new appearance through all new games. Although she keeps the same colours for her outfits, hair and eyes, she doesn't have the same face and skin color. It would be better to use the one from Super Mario Party, for instance, which is more detailed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JustARandomBoy (talk • contribs) 23:30, 11 November 2019 (UTC)

Reception : 2 Articles to add more.

According to this article and this one, Princess Peach is considered as a LGBT icon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nextlevel3008 (talk • contribs) 12:15, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

RECEPTION --> POLL - 1ST

Princess Peach has her own profile on the official website TheTopTens. In several polls, she was voted by the readers/public as the 1st "best video game girl", 1st "best female character in the Super Mario series", 1st "best Nintendo princess", 1st "best Mario Party 9 character", 1st "Top character that deserves less hate" and 1st "Most underrated Mario character". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoretrike (talk • contribs) 14:29, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

These polls are user generated and not reliable for use on Wikipedia. -- ferret (talk) 15:16, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Wrong description

“One of Peach's most common traits during her playable appearances is her ability to temporarily float in the air with her large skirt”.

Wrong. This ability is named “floating jump” through several games and she can use it without her dress, especially in Super Mario 3D World (2013), where she can use it while she’s wearing the cat costume thanks to the Super Bell. That shows she doesn’t need a skirt to perform it. A dress can’t allow you to float like this. It’s a magical ability. A “magical powers” section should be created. --CoconutMall9021033 (talk) 22:57, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2020

pls add in reception section that The 2011 Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition lists Peach as the 44th most popular video game character. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.238.171.169 (talk) 00:40, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

 Not done. This seems excessively trivial. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 02:33, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

Adding my two cents... Press release says this was a "reader's poll". That makes it user generated and we rarely mention user-voted top 10s, etc -- ferret (talk) 02:40, 26 January 2020 (UTC)

References

Reception -> Polls + Princess Toadstool’s Castle Run

In an official poll called “Who's your Mushroom Kingdom Valentine” conducted by Nintendo on the Play Nintendo website, Peach was NO. 1 with 17 261 votes : https://play.nintendo.com/activities/opinion-polls/nintendo-valentines-day-poll/

In an official poll conducted by the Japanese Super Smash Bros. website, Peach was the 2nd most requested character for Smash Bro’s Melee with 66 votes after Bowser : https://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/PostResult2.html

The game Princess Toadstool’s Castle Run, her first game before Super Princess Peach, is missing on the page.

--Wikiuser5837484883 (talk) 13:11, 13 May 2020 (UTC)

Mention of sex game

I do not think the mention of an illegal sex game adds anything to the article. Porn is made of every character everywhere, so it goes without saying that it has been made of a very popular female video game character. We should remove the one sentence addition unless we want to go around to all of the Mario world characters (such as Mario and Bowser) and mention how they too have had sex games made of them.73.192.5.245 (talk) 19:46, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done While Wikipedia is WP:NOTCENSORED, I've removed the mention on the basis that despite existing for eight years it took a DMCA notice by Nintendo for it to receive any coverage in RS - suggesting that the game wasn't all that notable to begin with, and thus would be undue to include. Satellizer el Bridget ^(Talk) 14:40, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Can there be a section that shows details about Peach's appearance? also a list of her voice members over the years would be nice to see.

just a suggestion. Chunky boii (talk) 15:19, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2022

Citation required of significant other: Mario 69.203.91.10 (talk) 06:37, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --Ferien (talk) 07:56, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2023

I would like the following change to be made to the Critic Reception portion:

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The website ranked her 48th in its list of Top 50 Hottest Game Babes, claiming that she is "the quiet 'quick, come and rescue me' type, but in Mario Strikers Charged she's all action with a hot sports outfit and shows the boys who's boss".

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The website ranked her 48th in its list of Top 50 Hottest Game Babes, claiming that she is "the quiet 'quick, come and rescue me' type, but in Mario Strikers Charged she's all action with a sexy sports outfit and shows the boys who's boss".

Simply put, the quote is inaccurate. This edit would make it an actual quote. 100.7.44.80 (talk) 18:35, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

 Done Tollens (talk) 18:44, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

Peach has no known last name

Toadstool was the NA name before it was transitioned into Peach.

In Mario tennis, her name is Peach.

There is no NA specific name for Peach now. 108.16.204.24 (talk) 16:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

This article should follow the convention of WP:COMMONNAME in a similar way to other characters with different names like Darth Vadar. She has been known as simply Princess Peach since Super Mario 64, which was the transition point between Toadstool and Peach in NA. Toadstool has been completely phased out - it's not mentioned by Nintendo on their official websites, nor in the gaming press, so the first sentence should name her as Princess Peach, followed by an explanation of her earlier name. Fieryninja (talk) 09:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC)

Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition Source

Maybe you could try by writing like this: Game publications, including the 2011 version of the Guinness World Records Gamer's Edition,[ref 1 (Guiness Source] included Peach among the most popular and iconic video game characters.[ref 2][ref 3][ref 4]. Because, I felt like Guiness world record needs to be added. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 23:55, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

I suppose if we can find some more sources, there would be some value in adding it in. Fieryninja (talk) 00:01, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Maybe at least only 3 reliable listicles should be fine to cite at the end of sentences. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 00:09, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Article looking good. Again, nice job. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 13:12, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

Reply from Simpson Kotaku source: Yeah, kinda sad that Kotaku just said "other Mario characters as well". Even thou she was portrayed at that scene, but I guess it all deoends at the source. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 08:57, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Greenish Pickle! well ok but if we are going to get Peach to GA then all the citations need to specifically mention her. Fieryninja (talk) 08:59, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

Yep. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 09:00, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

I think, if in possible way, there should be commentary on the change to her face in Princess Peach's Showtime, with an image showing the difference for reception section. Having both of the images could perhaps made the article look better? GreenishPickle! (🔔) 12:35, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

It's such a subtle change, would the images contribute much? It's already mentioned in the development. Fieryninja (talk) 19:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

It will, thou if the showtimes doesn't work; maybe others. Its just kinda sad that the character who has massive reception doesn't have images at the receotion. But, it'll fine without it anyway. I just thought that It would look better if it has =) . GreenishPickle! (🔔) 22:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Ignore my comment. Its all probably up to GAN reviewer anyway. GreenishPickle! (🔔) 22:28, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Link for Peach movie image

Greenish Pickle! on the page for the Peach movie image you need to add a direct link to the page where you got the image from or else it will probably get removed. Fieryninja (talk) 14:42, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the heads up. Greenish Pickle! (🔔) 15:46, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Image of Peach in film

There is commentary for Peach in the film, but nothing about how she looks and the actual text on the image of her just states this an image to be used in the infobox. This fails the fair use for including the imagery of her in the article. Andrzejbanas (talk) 12:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with Andrzejbanas. The depiction is also not strikingly different from the other images of depictions of Princess Peach already in the article. I don't think this image fulfillfs our non-free use criteria. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 12:44, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks both. I wonder what could be replaced with that. The reception felt like it was empty without an image of her massive reception. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 12:59, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Fieryninja (talk · contribs) 07:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Pokelego999 (talk · contribs) 20:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I will be taking this one on. Pretty excited to do this one given how big of a character Peach is. Will hopefully get to this soon. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:01, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

@Fieryninja (talk · contribs)

Six GA Criteria

1. Article is overall well-written.

2. No OR, all info is cited in the article.

3. Coverage is in-depth and covers multiple aspects of the subject.

4. Article appears neutral, and does not appear to hold a significantly negative nor positive stance on the subject.

5. Article appears stable. Does not appear to have had any major vandalism occur.

6. Article uses two fair use images. Infobox has proper rationale, as does the second. I'm iffy on the second, but I do concur it shows the development of the character's design as described in the text adequately.

Lead

-I'd personally reword "installment" to "game" since it comes off a little clunky here.

• Done Fieryninja (talk) 06:21, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Concept and creation

-"Miyamoto later said that Donkey Kong had been designed for arcades, which were frequented by male gamers, so Nintendo did not consider making a character that would be playable by girls." This seems to pertain more to Pauline than Peach, so I'm not sure if it's needed.

• I feel this is important within the context of Peach's development and helps to explain why she was given the role of damsel. Fieryninja (talk) 06:18, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

-"A strategy guide titled How to Win at Super Mario Bros., which was published around the time of the first Super Mario Bros. game in 1985, depicted the princess as a human on its cover, but also with a mushroom-inspired form" What did this mushroom form pertain? It feels a little unclear with the current wording.

• I've added a more specific description based on the images in the source. Fieryninja (talk) 06:28, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Characteristics

-Looks good

Appearances

-Hyperlink Luigi when he is first referenced given it's his first mention in the article.

• Done

-"As one of four playable characters in the game, she outwitted her enemies with the unique ability to float over obstacles." Is the reference to outwitting referred to by a source anywhere? If not, I'd reword this to be more neutral.

• Done

-Would Peach's Castle be capitalized, given it's often referred to with it?

• Done

-I'd trim down the introductory text relating to New Super Marios Bros. 2 given that most of it isn't too relevant to the text. (Primarily the "by waving to Mario and Luigi as they soar into the sky to collect coins wearing their racoon suits." bit)

• Done

-"Peach begins the Nintendo Switch game Super Mario Odyssey (2017) by being abducted by Bowser, who wants to marry her." I'd cut the "by" here.

• Done

-Are the references to Peach's various outfits in 3D World and Odyssey necessary? They seem like unneeded detail unless there's a reason for it.

• Trimmed

-"and a Princess Peach Tennis outfit." What is this used for?

• I've clarified per the reference that all the rewards are wearable Mii outfits. Fieryninja (talk) 15:04, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

-The reference to the Elephant form feels unneeded.

• Removed Fieryninja (talk) 06:50, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

-"In Mario Strikers Charged (2007), her losing animation involves throwing a tantrum, whereas in Mario Strikers: Battle League (2022) she fans herself and calms herself down." This info here feels really random, especially since it's all that's said about these games.

• I've kept it in but added more context about both games. Fieryninja (talk) 16:09, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

-" In the baseball game Mario Super Sluggers (2008), Peach is one of the rarer choices that can be chosen from a large roster of characters" How is she rarer?

• I've clarified this according to the reference. Fieryninja (talk) 16:55, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

I feel as though her losing animations aren't really relevant here, in any case. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:57, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Removed

-Baby Peach is randomly introduced in the "Other Mario games" section with no prior reference. Given she often acts as a separate character, it might be worthwhile to elaborate on her earlier on.

• I can't find any sources relating to Baby Peach. Fieryninja (talk) 17:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps reword to something like "Cat Peach, a baby version of Peach, and Pink Gold Peach"? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 18:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Reworded

-I'd specify the new Tour variations are just alternate costumes.

• Done

-" by a mystery guest and replaced with an explosive alternative" This is utterly confusing to anyone who has never played this game. I'd reword this to be more clear.

• I've tried to clarify this. Fieryninja (talk) 17:47, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

-Pluralize Shroobs

• Done

-"a rabbit version of Peach" I'd reword this to "Rabbid" given that the Rabbids are distinctly separate from actual rabbits

• Done

-Could you elaborate on what a boomshot is, or at least reword to make it more clear to those who haven't played the game?

• Done Fieryninja (talk) 17:58, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

-"In May 2016, a Super Mario Mash Up Pack released as downloadable content for the Wii U edition of Minecraft featured Peach as one of 12 skins used as playable Nintendo characters and recreated Peach's Castle as a location in the game." Bit of a run-on. Could this be split/reworded?

• Done

-" pulled back to the Mushroom Kingdom by King Kooper" Isn't he named King Koopa?

• Done Fieryninja (talk) 07:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Merchandise

-Looks good

Reception

-I feel the Destructoid fashion source isn't really too helpful here.

• Done

-Same with the Strikers source about her outfit, which is very much a trivial mention.

• Done

-" Mike Sholars of Kotaku hoped that the introduction of Rosalina in Super Mario Galaxy would mean that the Super Mario series would no longer need to rely on the concept of saving the princess and that Peach could become more than a plot device." I feel you could reword this, since this is in the future tense.

• Done

-The Peachette source in the second paragraph feels mostly unrelated to Peach.

• Removed

-The Mary Sue source also feels weak and can likely be cut.

• Removed

-I'd change deserve to deserved in the last paragraph to fit with the tensing in the rest of the paragraph.

• Done

-The reference to "Peach Month" seems to be more promotion than any lasting legacy.

• Removed Fieryninja (talk) 08:02, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

-The first two paragraphs kind of suffer from lacking a clear, cohesive Reception idea. It feels a lot like refs are slapped into paragraphs instead of being developed into cohesive ideas about what the sources are saying. It's not the biggest deal in the world, but if you feel you could improve it, then I'd say to go for it.

• I kinda disagree with this, as the first reception paragraph is really a narrative about her role as a kidnapping victim, with various commentary about it, so it centres mostly on that. The next begins the chronological commentary starting with early games. I will have a look to see if the narrative can be improved. Fieryninja (talk) 08:16, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Overall

Article overall looks pretty good, especially given it's for such an iconic character and a massive topic overall. Let me know if you have any questions about anything, and great work. I'll be happy to pass this once everything is addressed. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:03, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Pokelego999 I've worked through your points so would you like to check it over and discuss any outstanding issues? Fieryninja (talk) 18:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@Fieryninja looks good, just need clarification on two more points above. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:00, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

@Pokelego999 I've made those two changes now. Fieryninja (talk) 19:12, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Looks good. Happy to pass this article! Great work! Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:14, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Fantastic! Amazing to get Peach to GA. Thanks for your help. Fieryninja (talk) 19:15, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

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