Talk:Dmitry Medvedev (partisan)

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On 16 January 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved to Dmitry Nikolaevich Medvedev. The result of the discussion was not moved.

Requested move 16 January 2024

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) – Hilst [talk] 16:47, 23 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dmitry Medvedev (partisan) → Dmitry Nikolaevich Medvedev – WP:NATURAL. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 06:00, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Our naming conventions and policies still require the proposed name to be in widespread use. Is the patronymic commonly used in reliable English sources? WP:MAIDEN states that "only for very few Russians is the patronymic customary in English, notwithstanding widespread use of patronymics in the native language." Dekimasuよ! 06:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately I can barely find English language sources on him without finding a bunch of articles on the former Russian president. The article currently contains no English references. However, I found the following sources (not all of them RS so I'm not sure if they count) that include his middle name:

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=1330925866&searchurl=an%3Dmedvedev%2Bd%2Bn%2Bdmitrii%2Bnikolaevich%2B1898%2B1954%26sortby%3D17&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title1

uses Medvedev, D. N. (Dmitrii Nikolaevich) (1898-1954)

https://ww2gravestone.com/people/medvedev-dmitry-nikolaevich/

uses Medvedev, Dmitry Nikolaevich

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Soviet_Union_1970_CPA_3873_stamp_(USSR_Partisan_World_War_II_Hero_Dmitry_Nikolayevich_Medvedev)_cancelled.jpg

commemorative stamp that includes his middle initial

It seems at the very least, Russian sources and images of documents about him list him as Д. Н. Медведев, indicating that his middle name is included. This is true for at least the book Сильные духом which is cited in the article.

HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 15:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Soviet Union has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: WikiProject Russia has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 08:56, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose per WP:MIDDLENAME and WP:MAIDEN unless it can be proved that the patronymic is in common use. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I decided to check the Russian Wikipedia article, Медведев, Дмитрий Николаевич which is much more extensive. Virtually every source there includes his patronymic, usually in the form "Д. Н. Медве́дев." I acknowledge that this isn't necessarily the case in English, but then again all English sources I could find contain his patronymic. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 19:36, 18 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per above. 162 etc. (talk) 17:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.