Talk:Decree 770

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Doesn't it make more sense to merge this with Abortion in Romania? Or could it ever be a full-fledged article on its own?- Biruitorul ^Talk 20:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I had the same though myself. Both are possibilities, but it may be that the Abortion article could have this as a "main" for the 1964-1989 period. Once those wheels are set in motion etc. etc. It's a project on its own if someone should want to take "hold" of it. (I could lend a hand if you for instance care to try, throw in a couple of sources, but I can't contribute more for now - it's bound to be exhausting.) On the other hand, if you disagree and see a better outcome to this, please let me know: there is already an article which has both links side by side, and I have another in the cooker - I'd need to reconfigure those if these don't blossom into separate articles. Dahn (talk) 20:36, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I have no plans for either at present, but I was just writing about Victor Ponta and (footnote 13) it looks as though the abortion debate is once again coming up to the surface. Of course, neither the Penal nor the Civil Code has an article here, despite them dating to 1864 and being on the verge of replacement, so that too might be worth exploring (once those wheels are set in motion). - Biruitorul ^Talk 22:05, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to try and move the information on this page to the Abortion in Romania page and make sure it's cited, as this page is hidden away and I feel the information would be seen more often when on that page. I'll be working on this in my sandbox, so feel free to comment on my work and leave suggestions. Scb3 (talk) 06:25, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Although most of the content of this article at the moment just has background about the government policies on abortion and contraception, the topic of this article seems much broader than that. These policies gave rise to a whole generation of people, many of whom had a really tough time. Freakonomics says something to the effect that babies born during this time were worse off in almost every demographic measure than those born just slightly earlier. (Lack of care and being cared for, many put in state orphanages, malnutrition, poverty, etc.)

This article appears to be about a generation (as Baby boomer is a "generation" in the United States), not just about the events that lead to that generation. I am not sure that general coverage of Decreţei - the demographics, what happened to the people of that generation, etc. would fit within abortion in Romania. If people think this article should be merged, perhaps there is another article about the social history of Romania, e.g. where this could reside and grow until it becomes ready for a full-fledged article. Zodon (talk) 04:32, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I don't have any good sources on this - but some quick searches turned up things like this. Not clearly a high quality source, but looks like it might link to some decent sources. Zodon (talk) 04:41, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I gathered that the article intended to discuss the generation based on the title, but the information on the page seemed to focus on the decree, which left me uncertain as to what the fate of this article should be. I intended to move the information concerning the decree, and thus abortion, to the Abortion in Romania page, but that would leave a very small amount of information on this page (unless we were willing to have some redundancy). I wouldn't be able to flesh the portion on this generation out, however, as my focus isn't on the generation but on the legislation itself and its effects on women. I've gone and made my intended changes clearer in my sandbox, so hopefully you can see why I felt that the basic gist of this article would be appropriate for the Abortion in Romania page. Please let me know what you think! I'm not used to merging articles, and I could use all the help I can get.

As for the link, thank you! It actually listed the author of my primary sources for this particular subject, Gail Kligman, but I will check out those sources as well. Scb3 (talk) 07:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

If the link helped - great, but don't expect too much from it. It was just the result of a couple of quick searches (first thing I found that looked half-way presentable). Though I think this is an interesting example of population policy, I know very little about the Decreţei. (It, as well as Abortion are a bit peripheral to my areas also.)

I have done a fair bit of merging articles, so willing to help some if you have questions, time permitting. I haven't looked at your sandbox, but will take a look another day. Zodon (talk) 08:03, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

I think for now I will simply link to this article from the Abortion in Romania page, so that others with more knowledge on the subject can decide what they want to do with it. I am considering removing some of the redundant information, however, so if anyone has any thoughts or opinions on that, please let me know. Scb3 (talk) 02:16, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

Outright fallacies in text

"Contraceptives disappeared from the shelves and all women were forced to be monitored monthly by a gynecologist." This is NOT TRUE. This content, as there is no citation to verify it, is hereby challenged and should be promptly removed. End of story. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Szekely janos (talk • contribs) 5 August 2011

Title to be changed

The title must be changed to Decret 770 (770 Decree) as there is no such word as "decreţ" in the Romananian language. [I am a Romanian native speaker] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.100.56.40 (talk) 22:59, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Romany

I was told that Romany mothers were exempt of the natalist policies. Is it true? --Error (talk) 23:49, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Derogatory

I was told that decretel was derogatory, implying that those so-called were deficient and would have been aborted if the decree would have not forbidden it. --Error (talk) 23:53, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Chart

Could you substitute the Abortion after 1990 section with charts? --Error (talk) 23:58, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

The chart was made. NotAGenious (talk) 09:23, 22 June 2023 (UTC)