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Particularly this one of Édouard Nanny with Henri Casadesus. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:ENanny_HCasadesus.jpg In ictu oculi (talk) 01:19, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edouard or Édouard in English sources?

Before moving this should go through a RfM. I did a quick look at English sources and found Edouard Nanny - International Double Bass Solo Competition, The Edouard Nanny Méthode Vol.2, Library collections. The English spelling may be the prominent spelling so best if we get some English music experts giving it a once over before a quick move. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:25, 22 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fyunck, I'm again flattered that you are following my edits, but this isn't a tennis player or ice-hockey player therefore there is no reason that the name should be deliberately misspelled or anglicized. There is no question that this French Édouard is the same as every other French Édouard. Do you know anything about French orthography?

Pièce sur le nom d'Édouard Nanny: pour contrebasse et piano. E. Bozza - 1956 - A. Leduc

Now, would you be so kind as to move back to correct spelling please. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:14, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You should be flattered. If I see strange edits by a person or vandalizing I also take a quick peek to make sure they didn't do more. In this case yes...you overstepped your bounds. I won't move it back because I saw many English sources that that spelled it Edouard Nanny, including sheet music. Not being a music aficionado I though the music experts on wikipedia should have a look to make sure, before it is moved along with your thousands of other page moves. Fyunck(click) (talk) 04:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Fyunck, I don't think there is a large constituency for the idea that that spelling a French name with with the correct spelling Édouard on en.wp is "vandalism," and none of your arguments that this is a WP:STAGENAME apply given that Édouard Nanny, to the best of my knowledge, never registered with the ITF to play tennis at Wimbledon :), however if it makes you happy I will burden WP:RM with another discussion on diacritics. In ictu oculi (talk) 06:30, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This particular case is not vandalism, and I didn't label it as such. I just wanted to make sure the music project knew about it and it wasn't just sneaked by as a spelling change. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:11, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The request to rename this article to Édouard Nanny has been carried out.

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Edouard Nanny → Édouard Nanny – per French orthography and WP:UE example of Besançon. French composer, move contested by WikiProject Tennis editor Fyunck. Even though the old metal typeface used on the cover of his Méthode complète pour la contrebasse à quatre et cinq cordes (1920) does not display the É majuscule, still the spelling of this Édouard as all other French Édouards is confirmed by E. Bozza Pièce sur le nom d'Édouard Nanny: pour contrebasse et piano. A. Leduc 1956. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Love your Tennis Project dig... typical of you. I just wanted to make sure the Music Project had a chance to question this. I saw plenty of English sources that had the "'Edouard Nanny'" spelling... sheet music etc... and the Music Project may or may not agree with the request to change to a foreign alphabet. I thought they would know better than anyone else and didn't want it to just slip through the cracks. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:16, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose, as this is the English language Wikipedia & there's no diacritics in the English alphabet. GoodDay (talk) 10:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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 [[Edouard Nanny]] → {{no redirect|1=Édouard Nanny}} – per [[French orthography]] and [[WP:UE]] example of [[Besançon]]. French composer, move contested by WikiProject Tennis editor Fyunck. Even though the old metal typeface used on the cover of his ''Méthode complète pour la contrebasse à quatre et cinq cordes'' (1920) does not display the É majuscule, still the spelling of this Édouard as all other French [[Édouard]]s is confirmed by E. Bozza ''Pièce sur le nom d'Édouard Nanny: pour contrebasse et piano.'' A. Leduc 1956. [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 07:02, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * '''Comment''' - Love your Tennis Project dig... typical of you. I just wanted to make sure the Music Project had a chance to question this. I saw plenty of English sources that had the "'Edouard Nanny'" spelling... sheet music etc... and the Music Project may or may not agree with the request to change to a foreign alphabet. I thought they would know better than anyone else and didn't want it to just slip through the cracks. [[User:Fyunck(click)|Fyunck(click)]] ([[User talk:Fyunck(click)|talk]]) 08:16, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
+*'''Oppose''', as this is the ''English language Wikipedia'' & there's no diacritics in the English alphabet. [[User:GoodDay|GoodDay]] ([[User talk:GoodDay|talk]]) 10:10, 23 May 2012 (UTC)