Talk:Edwin Black/Archive 2

Stubifying

Folks, this article is entirely devoid of references and has generated a complaint to OTRS. As a result, I've stripped out most of the content and it should be rebuilt from the bottom up. Stifle (talk) 10:35, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Needless to say, any additions should be strongly cited to reliable sources. Please consider contacting me if you are considering adding negative material, as it may be worthwhile positioning it with the complainant first. Stifle (talk) 13:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Article about Wikipedia

I believe Edwin Black's syndicated article regarding Wikipedia and these recent exchanges will be of interest. Five versions are shown. I am posting this message to the 4 pages which I believe have an interest in the articles.

• http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=12106&pageid=37&pagename=Page+One
• http://www.hnn.us/articles/125437.html
• http://www.speroforum.com/a/30719/Wikipedia-The-Prime-Culprit-in-the-Dumbingdown-of-Culture
• http://www.dailyestimate.com/article. sp?idarticle=30719
• http://www.energypublisher.com/article.asp?idCategory=35&idsub=159&id=30719&t=Wikipedia%3A+The+Prime+Culprit+in+the+Dumbing-down+of+Culture
• http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/04/12/472903.html

Edwin Black: see it Edwin Black: this might be better formatted Edwin Black: I believe Edwin Black's syndicated article regarding Wikipedia and these recent exchanges will be of interest. Five versions are shown. I am posting this message to the 4 pages which I believe have an interest in the articles.

• http://www.thecuttingedgenews.com/index.php?article=12106&pageid=37&pagename=Page+One
• http://www.hnn.us/articles/125437.html
• http://www.speroforum.com/a/30719/Wikipedia-The-Prime-Culprit-in-the-Dumbingdown-of-Culture
• http://www.dailyestimate.com/article.sp?idarticle=30719
• http://www.energypublisher.com/article.asp?idCategory=35&idsub=159&id=30719&t=Wikipedia%3A+The+Prime+Culprit+in+the+Dumbing-down+of+Culture
• http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2010/04/12/472903.html

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Saxstudio (talk • contribs)

I would ask no one to add text in my name or colour my words as was just done and please remove them or sign them yourself. Saxstudio (talk) 23:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

No-one has changed or added words to your comments. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 23:10, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

While the article he wrote is obviously fascinating and will be controversial within WP, i think we will have to apply extremely exacting standards of notability to the article being listed here. i am not the best person to decide this, but i think so far the article has not gotten significant coverage to qualify to be listed. we will need to show pure NPOV in reporting on the article he wrote. this is necessary regardless of how true/untrue, fair/unfair the article he wrote "actually" is, and regardless of how many wikipedians read it and comment on it (or want to but restrain themselves from forumizing this article).Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:04, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if it's cynical to suggest that his vilification of Wikipedia is the result of a wounded ego, when our response to his rhetoric and attempts at self-aggrandisement was to pare his bio article down to a stub? It's also surprising (well not really) that amid all his Wikipedia-directed bile he is still intent on getting his book included as an article. I think an approximate equation reads wounded ego + desire for dollars = hypocrisy. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 10:40, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

In the Cutting Edge News article he quotes "“weasel American Jew”" as having been a tag. There are no diff links in it, so is he confusing the "Articles with weasel words" category and "This article contains weasel words" template put in by a volunteer[1] indicating that the WP article contained weasel words, as being a tag saying the subject of the bio is a weasel; or is he talking about somehing put in by a vandal editor we can block? Also, how can being categorized as American and Jewish be "hate speech"? Even if it's incorrect, I don't see how an incorrect categorization as either or both on a project, written by volunteers for people who can't afford expensive "World Knowledge" encyclopedias, is "hate speech". -- Jeandré (talk), 2010-04-13t10:29z

Yeah, he's combining the {{weasel}} tag with "American Jew" to come out with that. Stifle (talk) 11:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I wonder what colour an American Jewish weasel is, and are they similar to a circumcised ferret? --Fred the Oyster (talk) 11:19, 13 April 2010 (UTC)