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this is no 3rr.please stop personal attack.please stop Edit war.--[[User:Pabopa|Pabopa]] ([[User talk:Pabopa|talk]]) 02:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC) |
this is no 3rr.please stop personal attack.please stop Edit war.--[[User:Pabopa|Pabopa]] ([[User talk:Pabopa|talk]]) 02:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC) |
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please adminstrator, if you want protect these page, before protect, We must revert his edit.(1. This blocked user edited for Blocked period.(violated rule) 2. Disruptive behavior, anti korea meta pupeting campaign 3. technically, he violated 3rr rule in [[Kowtow]] page [[User:Manacpowers|Manacpowers]] ([[User talk:Manacpowers|talk]]) 02:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC) |
please adminstrator, if you want decide to protect these page, before protect, We must revert his edit.(1. This blocked user edited for Blocked period.(violated rule) 2. Disruptive behavior, anti korea meta pupeting campaign 3. technically, he violated 3rr rule in [[Kowtow]] page. [[User:Manacpowers|Manacpowers]] ([[User talk:Manacpowers|talk]]) 02:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC) |
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This page is for reporting active edit warriors and recent violations of restrictions like the three-revert rule.
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Edit warring is a behavior, typically exemplified by the use of repeated edits to "win" a content dispute. It is different from a bold, revert, discuss (BRD) cycle. Reverting vandalism and banned users is not edit warring; at the same time, content disputes, even egregious point of view edits and other good-faith changes do not constitute vandalism. Administrators often must make a judgment call to identify edit warring when cooling disputes. Administrators currently use several measures to determine if a user is edit warring.
An editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Violations of this rule normally attract blocks of at least 24 hours. Any appearance of gaming the system by reverting a fourth time just outside the 24-hour slot is likely to be treated as a 3RR violation. See here for exemptions.
Sections older than 48 hours are archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.
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Violations
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User:99.248.41.122 reported by Dr.K. (talk) 03:35, 25 July 2008 (UTC) (Result: 12 hours each)
- Three-revert rule violation on Greek name (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
99.248.41.122 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 03:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- 1st revert: 10:45, 23 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 11:00, 24 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 16:56, 24 July 2008
- 4th revert: 17:27, 24 July 2008
- 5th revert: 18:14, 24 July 2008
- 6th revert: 19:03, 24 July 2008
- 7th revert: 22:30, 24 July 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: 19:42, 24 July 2008)
User refuses to cite and does not engage in dialogue on the talk page of the article.
Comment None of the other names in the article have citations; why is he being pressured for one?--KojiDude (C) 05:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- My comment is just for the record: The bogus greek version of "Jasper" introduced by the anonymous IP is completely unattested. All other names in the relevant list give ample results when googled. The fact that the supposed Greek form of Jasper does not appear in any google result whatsoever, most certainly merits a proper citation.--Giorgos Tzimas (talk) 16:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Comment In reply to KojiDude's comment, if anyone bothered to see my ill fated attempt at communication on the talk page of the article they would see the reason. I warned the IP that Google yielded 0 (zero) hits for its edit. Do I have to explain what zero Google hits mean regarding the notability of the IP's edit? So here is the picture: An anonymous IP vandalizes the article with demonstrably unverifiable rubbish despite multiple warnings by more than one editor on its user talk page and the article talk page as well and the longstanding editor without prior record of blocks and a stellar mainpage editing record and civil behaviour in all of his edits with long-running vandalism fighting credentials to boot, does not even get the courtesy of even a warning. We have administrators for a reason. The reason is that they have logic and discretion and they can apply the rules according to the principles of Fairness and logic. Otherwise we would have robots to mindlessly enforce the myriad of Wikipedia's regulations. In this case Fairnes, logic and editor prior history were not considered. Maybe it's time to polish up the software to take on the task of meting Wikipedia law. Dr.K. (talk) 18:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Both editors blocked – for a period of 12 hours Stifle (talk) 10:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Myominane reported by User:58.165.119.85 (Result: warning)
- Three-revert rule violation on Final Fantasy XIII (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Myominane (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 08:51, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 11:31, 24 July 2008
- 1st revert: 06:18, 25 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 06:23, 25 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 08:26, 25 July 2008
- 4th revert: 08:40, 25 July 2008
- 5th revert: 08:55, 25 July 2008
- Warned Stifle (talk) 10:33, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters reported by User:Kossack4Truth (Result: No violation )
- Three-revert rule violation on Barack Obama (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 13:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [1]
- 1st revert: 01:07, 23 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 04:06, 23 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 16:25, 24 July 2008
- 4th revert: 01:23, 25 July 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: LotLE is fully aware of the 3RR rule and all of its components. He/she has successfully had other editors blocked under this rule, not for four reverts in a 24-hour period, but for violating the spirit of the rule.
He/she is attempting to remove any mention of controversial Catholic priest Michael Pfleger, and a photo of Obama with Gen. David Petraeus.
This is low-level edit warring coupled with low-level provocation. Please notice the edit summaries. He/she directs other users to the article Talk page where there is nothing to support him/her. He/she accuses one user of being a "contentious SPA," and notes that another has an "interesting focus" (user's focus appears to be gay rights). See also this diff [2] on the article Talk page, where he/she encourages others to "start ignoring the provocations and sophistry of the SPA."
LotLE has a long and turbulent history of combative and provocative behavior that resulted in several blocks and countless warnings that he/she has deleted from his/her User Talk page. This is gaming the system. Both Barack Obama and Talk:Barack Obama are already semi-protected, and the article is on the verge of community probation at WP:ANI, due to such edit warring and continued provocation. LotLE is a significant part of the problem. Please take action, since it is necessary here. Kossack4Truth (talk) 13:36, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment Suggest you go back and read WP:3RR again. Four reverts over three days is certainly not three reverts in 24 hours. --StuffOfInterest (talk) 14:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Result - Stale. Do what SoI says Kossack and go read WP:3RR. ScarianCall me Pat! 14:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment It's more than 'stale' - there is no violation, there are 48 hours and 16 minutes between the first and the fourth diff. Considering the history of this dispute,
the fact that User:Kossack4Truth is topic banned[3] from the article in question, and the fact that there is clearly no violation here casts a doubt over the good faith of this report--Cailil talk 14:19, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment It's more than 'stale' - there is no violation, there are 48 hours and 16 minutes between the first and the fourth diff. Considering the history of this dispute,
- Correction: Kossack4Truth is NOT topic banned from the article in question. This is low-level edit warring coupled with low-level provocation. At the very least, a warning to this user from an uninvolved administrator is in order, given the history of that article and the history of the user. Notice also that after a 3RR report, other users have been blocked despite the fact that there were fewer than four reverts in a 24-hour period.[4] The block is for edit warring, not for any technical violation of 3RR. Kossack4Truth (talk) 14:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. seicer | talk | contribs 14:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- I just noticed this, but want to add a comment before it is archived, since I think K4T will cite this in the future. The above diffs, apart from occupying more than 24 hours, also concern two completely unrelated editing issues. They are not simply reverts either, but vary somewhat. In any case, two of the diffs concern the handling of mentions of Michael Pfleger, and two of them concern images that include David Petreus. Moreover, the types of article concerns that motivated the two sets of edits are completely distinct as well. There is not common "issue" or "dispute" that involves both Pfleger and Petreus (at least none I've ever heard of). It merely consists of K4T grabbing a few random edits I've made in a relatively small time interval, and filing a misleading report. LotLE×talk 00:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Responding to LotLE's comment, and fearing that this 3RR complaint might be cited in the future, I note that the 'random edits' cited above are *all* reverts and they all count toward a single total. The fact they are not all on the same topic makes no difference under WP:3RR. A revert means undoing the actions of another editor, whether involving the same or different material each time. There are four reverts here. This case fails to be actionable only due to the wide time interval. EdJohnston (talk) 02:42, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Your comment is not correct, EdJohnston (it takes a careful look, or knowledge of page changes to see it, I understand). What actually happened was that a neutral editor added two images of Petreus. I removed one, and explained both in the edit comment and on the talk page why two images was undue emphasis (the adding editor agreed). A different editor restored the two images as a revert, and I indeed reverted that change with similar explanation and expansion of talk page comment. So one revert related to images. On the Pfleger description, one of my edits was a revert, but the other was trying a slightly different phrasing that I hoped would meet consensus. So there were a total of two actual reverts in the period of 48+ hours (of the four edits reported as such, and only one related to each topic). Perhaps two is still too many, but I want anyone looking at this in the future to pay attention to the actual edits. LotLE×talk 05:40, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Pietervhuis reported by User:LokiiT (Result: Both blocked)
- Three-revert rule violation on First Chechen War (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Pietervhuis (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 16:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 16:02, 23 July 2008
- 1st revert: 15:51, 24 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 16:39, 24 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 17:46, 24 July 2008
- 4th revert: 14:54, 25 July 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: [He informed me of what 3RR was and on his talk page it looks like he's been blocked a bunch of times already for 3RR]
I didn't want to have to take measures like this, but this guy is trying really hard to push his "pro-Chechen" point of view (which he made abundantly clear in the second Chechen war talk page) by removing reliable sources then adding different ones that say something completely different. You can see the sentence he changed, instead of getting "brutalized and killed by Chechen militants", he "may have been thrown out or fell out of a window trying to escape"..This is the same terrorist group who took a school hostage and killed hundreds of children. And obviously he has no consensus to make a change like that, he didn't even bring it up in talk after a bunch of reverts. LokiiT (talk) 16:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Both editors blocked LokiiT blocked for 24 hours, and as Pietervhuis has quite a history of 3RR blocks, he gets 10 days. Stifle (talk) 17:53, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
User:71.141.155.99 reported by User:Enigmaman (Result: 24 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on Blackout (Britney Spears album) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
71.141.155.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 16:52, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 15:13 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- 1st revert: 19:29 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- 2nd revert: 21:03 24 July 2008 (UTC)
- 3rd revert: 00:33 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- 4th revert: 15:13 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Diff of 3RR warning: 03:04 25 July 2008 (UTC)
IP has actually been edit-warring over two different things in the article. Also this and ensuing reverts. Enigma message 16:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Declined The "previous version reverted to" needs to be before all the reverting took place. Stifle (talk) 17:54, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - I'd block for that. Or at least a prot. The IP has made 4 reverts in 24 hours. ScarianCall me Pat! 18:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Feel free to. It's borderline; I wouldn't object. Stifle (talk) 19:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- The IP editor was blocked 24 hours by User:Scarian. EdJohnston (talk) 22:12, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Feel free to. It's borderline; I wouldn't object. Stifle (talk) 19:03, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Comment - I'd block for that. Or at least a prot. The IP has made 4 reverts in 24 hours. ScarianCall me Pat! 18:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
User:PhilLiberty reported by User:North Shoreman (Result: No Violation)
- Three-revert rule violation on
Articles of Confederation (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). PhilLiberty (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 18:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [5]
- Diff of 3RR warning: [10]
The editor has been engaging in similar types of edit warring on four articles -- Articles of Confederation, United States Declaration of Independence, American Revolution, and American Revolutionary War. He actually went over 3 reverts last night, but an additional warning was given. Recently three different editors -- me, User:JimWae, and User:Bkonrad have been involved in reversing PhilLiberty’s edits. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 18:43, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria. The last link is not a revert.--KojiDude (C) 19:08, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm missing something -- the last link removed material that I added and restored material that PhilLiberty had previously added. How is this not a revert? Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 19:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- If it was a revert, then there is a previous version of the page that is the same as the version after that edit. Can you please specify that previous version? Stifle (talk) 19:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- This [11] diff reflects the edit where I added the material that PhilLiberty subsequently deleted. This diff [12] came right before and was the one in which I removed material restored by Phil in the same edit that he deleted the material I added. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 19:45, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- I need an oldid, not a diff. Stifle (talk) 09:40, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- This [11] diff reflects the edit where I added the material that PhilLiberty subsequently deleted. This diff [12] came right before and was the one in which I removed material restored by Phil in the same edit that he deleted the material I added. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 19:45, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- If it was a revert, then there is a previous version of the page that is the same as the version after that edit. Can you please specify that previous version? Stifle (talk) 19:32, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
- I'm missing something -- the last link removed material that I added and restored material that PhilLiberty had previously added. How is this not a revert? Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 19:13, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Going back to the 4th diff, that is apparently the issue, the section AFTER Phil's revert read:
Historical importance
The Articles are historically important for two major reasons: i) they were the first constitution or governing document for the United States of America and ii) they legally established an alliance ("union") of the thirteen founding states. One legal view holds the Articles (and later Constitution) to be a contract or compact between the states and the union, thus if the union violates the contract states may rightfully secede.[16] This position was held by, among others, Thomas Jefferson[17] and John C. Calhoun. A later interpretation was that the states permanently surrendered the right to secede. This view was used by Daniel Webster and Abraham Lincoln to justify engaging in a war against secession, the American Civil War,[18] but was stated as early as 1832 by Andrew Jackson during the Nullification Crisis.[19] Law professor Daniel Farber argues that there was no clear consensus on the permanence of the Union or the issue of secession by the Founders. [20]
The section BEFORE Phil’s revert read (major deleted material in boldface):
Historical importance
The Articles are historically important for two major reasons: i) they were the first constitution or governing document for the United States of America and ii) they legally established a union of the thirteen founding states. In 1786 Thomas Jefferson wrote concerning the nature of government under the Articles: It has been often said that the decisions of Congress are impotent because the Confederation provides no compulsory power. But when two or more nations enter into compact, it is not usual for them to say what shall be done to the party who infringes it. Decency forbids this, and it is as unnecessary asindecent, because the right of compulsion naturally results to the party injured by the breach. When any one state in the American Union refuses obedience to the Confederation by which they have bound themselves, the rest have a natural right to compell them to obedience.[16] Political scientist David C. Hendrickson writes that two prominent political leaders in the Confederation, John Jay of New York and Thomas Burke of North Carolina believed that "the authority of the congress rested on the prior acts of the several states, to which the states gave their voluntary consent, and until those obligations were fulfilled, neither nullification of the authority of congress, exercising its due powers, nor secession from the compact itself was consistent with the terms of their original pledges."[17] A different legal view holds the Articles (and later Constitution) to be a compact between the states and the union, thus if the union violates the terms of the compact, states may rightfully secede.[citation needed] This position was held by, among others, Thomas Jefferson[dubious – discuss][18] and John C. Calhoun. This view motivated discussions of secession within a minority of states at the Hartford Convention, the Virginia and Kentucky Resolutions, and the Nullification Crisis.[19][20][21] A competing view, promoted by Daniel Webster and later by Abraham Lincoln, was that the Articles established a permanent union of the thirteen founding states and that the Constitution, being a "more perfect union", continued this perpetuity.[22] Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 11:47, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Écrasez l'infâme reported by User:Blanchardb (Result: 31 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on Bible (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Écrasez l'infâme (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 04:45, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [13]
- 1st revert: [14]
- 2nd revert: [15]
- 3rd revert: [16]
- 4th revert: [17]
- 5th revert: [18]
- 6th revert: [19]
- 7th revert: [20]
- Diff of 3RR warning: [21]
- Although not technically all reverts to the same revision, they are, for the most part, rewordings of the same initial edit. --Blanchardb-Me•MyEars•MyMouth-timed 05:29, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 31 hours – It's pretty obvious that consensus has been repeatedly against the changes introduced by the user, as multiple editors repeatedly reverted the user's changes; yet, the user persisted in introducing those changes over time, which is edit warring and/or disruptive. --slakr\ talk / 06:03, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Pabopa reported by User:Manacpowers (Result: No violation proven)
- Three-revert rule violation on Taekwondo, Kowtow, Samjeondo Monument
Pabopa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
210.231.12.98 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 08:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [22]
Kowtow
Taekwondo
- Diff of 3RR warning: [30]
Possibly he is a sock of 210.231.12.98. (exactly same behavior of User:Pabopa). if he is a sock, then he violated 3rr rules more.
evidence
- 1st revert: [31]
- 2nd revert: [32]
- 3rd revert: [33] Manacpowers (talk) 08:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- No violation. There are only three reverts shown for Kowtow (four are required to constitute a violation) and there is no previous version reverted to shown for Taekwondo, so no evidence that the first edit is a revert. You can list a request for checkuser type E if you think that the IP is the same editor as Pabopa. Stifle (talk) 09:36, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Request for review: I've watched their edit waring, but their edit wars were so fast. Manac misformatted the diffs on Taekwondo, so I do it. The article is currently in mediation (not formal though), so every sources are under scrutiny. I also agree that Pabopa seems like 210.231.12.98 (talk · contribs)[34], a sock of blocked for personal attacks yesterday. It is highly unlikely the Badopa and the IP user are not the same one given the identical edit and appearances. If they are the same user, Badopa is evading his block sanction. Regardless, Babopa indeed violated 3RR twice with his or account.
- Previous version reverted to: 2008-07-26T01:56:54
- 1st revert: 2008-07-26T04:22:24
- 2nd revert: 2008-07-26T08:12:58
- 3rd revert: 2008-07-26T08:18:51
- 4th revert: 2008-07-26T08:30:02
- Diff of 3RR warning: 2008-07-26T08:23:30
--Caspian blue (talk) 09:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Page protected Stifle (talk) 09:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Manacpowers reported by User:Pabopa (Result: Page protected)
- Three-revert rule violation on Kowtow
Manacpowers (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 08:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [35] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pabopa (talk • contribs) 08:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Diff of 3RR warning:[40]
Taekwondo, Samjeondo Monument,Seoul National University He does stalking of me,and revert.--Pabopa (talk) 08:50, 26 July 2008 (UTC)--Pabopa (talk) 09:29, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- what are you talking about? you violated 3rr rule. after you created new accounts and violated 3rr rule more. many user revert your edit, but your have a disruptive behavior, and revert revert.... again.
here is the evidence. [41][42][43][44][45] Manacpowers (talk) 09:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Page protected Stifle (talk) 09:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Pabopa reported by User:Caspian blue (Result: Declined)
- Three-revert rule violation on Samjeondo Monument (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Pabopa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 13:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 2008-06-12T11:09:59
- 1st revert: 2008-07-25T23:54:08
- 2nd revert: 2008-07-26T08:14:21
- 3rd revert: 2008-07-26T13:09:37
- 4th revert: 2008-07-26T13:19:13
- Third violation of 3RR within 14 hours by Pabopa. One of the three articles Pabopa violated is now protected, the other is still waiting for review, the latest one is this one. I don't think the user willing to regard with 3RR policy and consensus and discussion. --Caspian blue (talk) 13:35, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- (comment) I reverted twice. --Pabopa (talk) 13:55, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- You too stop bickering each other and stop editing today!!!!!!!!! --Caspian blue (talk) 14:00, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Declined The first edit is not a revert, so there are only three in total. Nonetheless, User:Pabopa has reverted three times in one day on each of three different articles. He may be blocked for edit warring if this behavior continues. It is possible he is the reincarnation of an IP who had been previously warring on the same articles. EdJohnston (talk) 03:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Question, I've thought that adding or deleting a material first is regarded "revert" if somebody oppose and revert the addition or deletion. Although he did not violate 3RR on this Samjeondo article by your review, he really "revert" 4th time on Taekwondo. I also believe that the previous IPs are him, given the time and identical edit. --Caspian blue (talk) 04:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- No, a revert is an edit that changes the page so it is (almost) identical to a previous version. Stifle (talk) 09:46, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
User:86.166.196.75 reported by User:Barryob (Result: 24 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on Template:Scottish National Party/meta/shortname (edit | [[Talk:Template:Scottish National Party/meta/shortname|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
86.166.196.75 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 15:15, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [49]
- 1st revert: 14:53, 26 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 15:02, 26 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 15:05, 26 July 2008
- 4th revert: 15:06, 26 July 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: DIFFTIME
- Blocked – for a period of 24 hours This may be a single-purpose IP that was created expressly to edit-war on the names of parties in Scotland. I'm warning User:Barryob as well. EdJohnston (talk) 04:07, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Cooljuno411 reported by User:Ludwigs2 (Result: Declined)
- Three-revert rule violation on Template:Sexual orientation (edit | [[Talk:Template:Sexual orientation|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Cooljuno411 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 20:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [50]
- There was also my attempt at a compromise edit, here which was rejected
- 1st revert: [51]
- 2nd revert: [52]
- 3rd revert: [53]
- 4th revert: [54]
- [55]
- [56]
- [57]
- [58]
- [59]
- [60]
- [61]
- [62]
- [63]
My involvement in this begins here, with this compromise edit
- Diff of 3RR warning: [74]
COMMENT - this is a slow edit war (everyone is being careful to stick to the literal 3rr rules), but it's an obvious attempt to impose a non-standard set of categories on the template, without allowing discussion. I've asked Cooljuno to take the debate over to Sexual Orientation, reach a consensus there, and then come back when the matter is established - instead, he created a POV-fork at Heterosexual-homosexual_continuum - [75] - and tried to use it as support for his position. further, I think he's aware of what he's doing: Skoojal removed the sidebar from sexual orientation, but Cooljuno edited it back in almost immediately, here [76]. --Ludwigs2 20:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Declined The only 3RR violation there is back in March, which is Stale Beyond that, as far as 3RR is concerned, there is No violation I would suggest requesting protection of pages that are subject to dispute or referring the matter to dispute resolution. Stifle (talk) 09:51, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Aviousours76 reported by User:malljaja (Result: 1 week)
- Three-revert rule violation on John Lydon (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Aviousours76 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 21:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 15:46, 24 July 2008
- 1st revert: 21:43, 24 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 23:39, 24 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 11:16, 25 July 2008
- 4th revert: 18:48, 25 July 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: 17:33, 17 July 2008
The user in question is involved in edit warring on several other entries (see here); in fact it appears that the account has been created for the sole purpose of engaging in disputes revolving around the same issue. He/she has received a 3RR warning (by a different user) 17:33, 17 July 2008 here, but has removed it subsequently. I have contacted the user on their talk page here, but so far without avail (reverts similar the ones by this user now are made by anon IPs). I hope this can be resolved with your help. Many thanks! Malljaja (talk) 21:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
- Blocked – for a period of 1 week This editor's main activity since the account was created on June 12 is to revert national identities across a range of articles, for example, 'British' to 'English.' During that period, 37 out of his 40 article edits were reverts. I think it's fair to describe that as POV edit-warring, which falls under 'tendentious editing.' Anyone who is familiar with recent sock cases is invited to check if this is a known sock, because there are nationalist edit-warriors who fit this description. In addition, there was a 3RR violation on John Lydon. EdJohnston (talk) 03:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Be Black Hole Sun reported by User:Wiki libs (Result: 24 hours)
- Three-revert rule violation on Aerosmith discography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views). Be Black Hole Sun (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log): Time reported: 18:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 15:41, July 21, 2008
- 1st revert: 13:36, July 27, 2008
- 2nd revert: 13:52, July 27, 2008
- 3rd revert: 14:04, July 27, 2008
- 4th revert: 14:20, July 27, 2008
Comment User:Be Black Hole Sun has a edit war history with the article and it has been previously locked by an administrator. A consensus as to the format for the page has been reached but Be Black Hole Sun has chosen to ignore the consensus and continues to edit war and push his personal view of the page format. Libs (talk) 18:10, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
Blocked – for a period of 24 hours EdJohnston (talk) 23:31, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Kung_Fu_Man reported by User:74.242.122.25 (Result: no violation)
- Three-revert rule violation on The_Final_Fantasy_Legend (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Kung_Fu_Man (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 18:48, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 17:29, 27 July 2008
- 1st revert: 17:29, 27 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 17:54, 27 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 18:04, 27 July 2008
- 4th revert: 18:04, 27 July 2008
Comment by Kung Fu Man To point something out the anon fellow here did not...the "2nd revert" is actually just a ref addition to the first revert, and was simply an edit and not a reversion of the article. I also received no alert about this discussion being conducted, and found it only by checking this fellow's contribution history.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 18:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- No violation – there must be four or more reverts within a 24 hour period for the 3-Revert Rule to apply; the links you have provided do not meet these criteria.
- Comment – The links provided are not diffs. —Travistalk 19:36, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Kolindigo reported by User:Sennen_goroshi (Result: Stale. )
- Three-revert rule violation on He_Kexin (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Kolindigo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 19:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 19:41, 26 July 2008
- 1st revert: 19:58, 26 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 00:42, 27 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 01:10, 27 July 2008
- 4th revert: 01:12, 27 July 2008
- 5th revert: 02:16, 27 July 2008
There were more than the above 5 reverts made by the user within a 24 hour time span, however to be fair, some of the reverts that I have not listed were reverting clear vandalism - although some of the above edits had a RVV edit summary, however they were clearly content dispute not vandalism.
The user is clearly aware of the 3RR, as they made they following edit summary in the past, while self reverting good faith self-revert, since I'm over 3RR http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dara_Torres&diff=prev&oldid=224254442
- Result - This user hasn't made a revert in at least 24 hours. It'd be punitive of me to block him/her or take any action (Article is already protected), so I'm gonna have to mark it as stale. ScarianCall me Pat! 13:45, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Cached Entity reported by User:Kariteh (Result: 24 hour block )
- Three-revert rule violation on SOCOM II: U.S. Navy SEALs (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Cached Entity (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 11:02, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 11:12, 28 July 2008
- 1st revert: 11:19, 28 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 11:36, 28 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 12:10, 28 July 2008
- 4th revert: 12:56, 28 July 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: 23:01, 25 July 2008
- Result - I have blocked Cached Entity for 24 hours for edit warring. ScarianCall me Pat! 13:47, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
User:P-nice reported by User:Bedford (Result: 12 h)
- Three-revert rule violation on Grand Lodge of Connecticut (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
P-nice (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 16:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 12:20, July 28, 2008
- 1st revert: 00:54, July 28, 2008
- 2nd revert: 10:32, July 28, 2008
- 3rd revert: 11:52, July 28, 2008
- 4th revert: 12:16, July 28, 2008
- 5th revert: 19:31, July 28, 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: 18:35, July 26, 2008
- Comment I think this involves Bedford peremptorily removing information that can be viewed as somewhat negative about this organisation. I don't know the merits of the specifics here, but it is highly relevant that Bedford has been engaging in DYK-medal-racing related edit wars and in one-sided edits to remove negative information and to build up positive information in other articles about Masonic Lodges, including Grand Lodge of West Virginia. In the WV case, another user had proposed a DYK nomination with the negative but true and well-supported information that has been in the news. Bedford repeatedly removed the info and tagged the article various ways in order to preclude it from DYK. He succeeded. Others, seeking to intervene, ultimately left all the questioned information in, and called upon him to add other information for balance. I predicted that he would not, as he won the DYK destruction race, and he has not contributed anything. Bedford and I have had multiple disagreements. I reported him for 3RR violation on an entirely different issue recently, in which administrators chastised him, an administrator himself, for flouting 3RR rules in attempting to label his own 4th revert as vandalism reversion. The ruling administrator chose not to block him, however, saying that I showed bad faith in my own first reversion edit summary (I did not particularly understand that). But here, bad faith on Bedford's part is plentiful in my view. And, I have not had any involvement in the present article. doncram (talk) 21:15, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- P-nice blocked twelve hours. 3RR is merits-blind, but besides that, the verifiability policy puts the onus on those who want information included to source it.--chaser - t 21:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
User:HighKing reported by User:EmpireForever (Result: Both blocked)
- Three-revert rule violation on Pirate radio (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
HighKing (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 00:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 17:51, 25 July 2008
- 1st revert: 23:31, 28 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 00:02, 29 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 00:06, 29 July 2008
- 4th revert: 00:12, 29 July 2008
- 5th revert: 00:23, 29 July 2008
Editor has previously been blocked during his one-man crusade to remove British Isles, and administrators are already recommending a block for his disruptive edit warring see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:HighKing. EmpireForever (talk) 00:20, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- SPA stalking my edits and content-edit-warring on several articles, removing references, and has already been warned for comments referring to Irish as terrorists (although deserved to get a block). --HighKing (talk) 00:28, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- I have not removed a single reliable source, unlike HighKing was has removed many. As the discussion on the other noticeboard shows, HighKing is a SPA dedicated to removing British Isles, which is what he has been edit warring over tonight. EmpireForever (talk) 00:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Both editors blocked, HighKing (talk · contribs) for 72 hours (repeat offender), EmpireForever (talk · contribs) for 24 hours. Both users edit-warring on articles besides the one listed. CIreland (talk) 01:23, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
User:76.30.182.131 reported by User:Michellecrisp(Result: blocked anyway)
- Three-revert rule violation on Shoplifting (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
76.30.182.131 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 01:02, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: [77]
- Diff of 3RR warning: [81]
Technically the rule kicks in at four, and I'm not sure 76.30 would have seen the warning before the third revert, but the nastiness he recently inserted onto the reporter's userpage merits a block after all the other mess.--chaser - t 01:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Skyring reported by User:Matilda (Result: )
- Three-revert rule violation on John Howard (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Skyring (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported: 01:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Previous version reverted to: 17:34, 28 July 2008 (all times given in Australian Eastern Standard time - ie UTC + 10 hours)
- 1st revert: 21:48, 28 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 03:59, 29 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 09:18, 29 July 2008
- 4th revert: 10:20, 29 July 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: 06:49, 29 July 2008 Note this editor is very familiar with 3RR breaches (see blocklog) so a templated warning would not have been appropriate.
Skyring claims that the edits breach BLP. The content has been discussed on the article talk page and editors (other than myself) disagree with him. He has now escalated to Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#John Howard. I do not believe that his assertion of breaches of BLP justifies his breaking of the 3RR when this is a much watched article with other people in the debate. I do not believe thus that the exceptions to the rule apply. Matilda talk 01:19, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Discussion on talk page shows that the material is contentious, with several noting WP:BLP violation. I have asked that it not be reinserted without a decision on whether BLP has been breached. Matilda prefers to edit-war rather than follow wikipolicy. --Pete (talk) 01:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- It is quite clear from the article history that I have not indulged in edit warring. I added the material (referenced) following discussions on the talk page. I have followed the discussions on the talk page and contributed there. I have reverted Skyring twice. I have not breached 3RR, nor been provoked into breaching it. --Matilda talk 01:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- I just got a bit involved in this situation, so I won't take official action, but I will give you my opinion. I'd be disinclined to block under these circumstances because I think Pete really did believe BLP to be implicated and was acting in good faith. Beyond that, I've recently shortened the bit in question and added it to the Howard Government article. Is that an OK compromise? If not, can we discuss it on the talk page civilly instead of reverting back and forth? If the edit-war continues, one either article, then perhaps a block or page protection is necessary. Otherwise, can we freeze this request for a few minutes while we try to work towards a consensus, please?--chaser - t 01:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Sorry - I disagree that Skyring should be exempted regardless of his deeply held beliefs on BLP violations. Several admins are involved in the discussions on the talk page. None of them reverted the material despite holding opposing views. (ie Gnagarra and OIC). The issue of the material should be discussed elsewhere. --Matilda talk 01:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- This disputed passage is the report of a brief that has actually been filed with a court, as was very reliably reported in a mainstream source, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. The inclusion of the report in this article might be (at most) silly but certainly not defamatory. Depending on which 3RR-closer wants to address this one, I can assert you'll find no unanimity that a BLP defence will work in this case. Reverts are exempt from 3RR limits only if the material actually *does* violate BLP, not just because the editor's personal opinion is that it does. I would give Skyring a chance to self-revert first. EdJohnston (talk) 02:12, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- Skyring has been advised of the invitation and appears to wish to ignor it [82] --Matilda talk 02:24, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- BLP overrides 3RR. However there is a clique of editors who are ignoring the basic tenets of BLP to push through their POV (which is over a rather trivial point) on the article without consensus. These particular editors (and admin) need to review their own actions prior to handing out warnings and probably should be sanctioned over it. --Shot info (talk) 01:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- I am not a member of a clique thanks. I would appreciate you clarify your rationale for me to be sanctioned. --Matilda talk 01:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Pabopa reported by User:Manacpowers (Result:)
- Three-revert rule violation on Samjeondo Monument (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Kowtow (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
Pabopa (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Time reported:
Kowtow
- Previous version reverted to: 12:39, 28 July 2008
- 1st revert: 16:46, 28 July 2008
- 2nd revert: 01:43, 29 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 02:04, 29 July 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: 02:00, 29 July 2008
Samjeondo Monument
- Previous version reverted to: 11:09, 12 June 2008
- 1st revert: 08:16, 27 July 2008 used as sock
- 2nd revert: 16:39, 28 July 2008
- 3rd revert: 01:42, 29 July 2008
- Diff of 3RR warning: 02:00, 29 July 2008
210.231.12.98 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
this user blocked 18:26, 25 July 2008 for 48 hours by his personal attacks.[83]
Blocked period 18:26, 25 July 2008 ~ 18:26, 27 July 2008
But this blocked user created new accounts and edited as a newbie accounts for blocked period.
- Webcamera (talk · contribs · count · logs · block log · lu · rfa · rfb · arb · rfc · lta · socks)
- Pabopa (talk · contribs · count · logs · block log · lu · rfa · rfb · arb · rfc · lta · socks confirmedsuspected)
one of the Adminstrator(3rr part) worried about this,[84]
"I find it reasonable that User:Pabopa is a reincarnation of 210.231.12.98 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), an account which was edit warring on Taekwondo until he was blocked 48 hours for disruptive editing."
and admin worry about he is a possibly member of meatpuppet campaign which anti-Korean editing. [85]
I reported this to another admin Stifle. admin said "report his disruptive incidents at WP:ANI". [86]
This blocked user edited Taekwondo, Kowtow, Samjeondo Monument for Blocked period.
Now, Pabopa created new accounts. Webcamera [87]. exactly same behaviot of Pabopa[88]
210.231.12.98[89] and 210.231.14.222[90]. this two similar IP range IPs are exactly same behavior of Pabopa[91], too. He make a disruptive edit war by multiple IPs and Accounts.
- Webcamera (talk · contribs · count · logs · block log · lu · rfa · rfb · arb · rfc · lta · socks)
- Pabopa (talk · contribs · count · logs · block log · lu · rfa · rfb · arb · rfc · lta · socks confirmedsuspected)
- 210.231.12.98 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 210.231.14.222 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
Manacpowers (talk) 02:17, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
this is no 3rr.please stop personal attack.please stop Edit war.--Pabopa (talk) 02:27, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
please adminstrator, if you want decide to protect these page, before protect, We must revert his edit.(1. This blocked user edited for Blocked period.(violated rule) 2. Disruptive behavior, anti korea meta pupeting campaign 3. technically, he violated 3rr rule in Kowtow page. Manacpowers (talk) 02:38, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
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