User talk:Carnildo

Archives: The beginning through April 22, 2005

Robert G. Cole, MOH

Thanks for editing my contribution. I was suprised Lt. Col Cole didbn't have a Wikipage until today.

Threats

Follow one of my edits again and comment adversely on the # of edits I have and you will regret it. That I promise you. Zenupassio 03:35, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning. I plan to ignore it. --Carnildo 03:52, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Xiong

Hi there! Because the RFC about Xiong seemed to deal mainly on his disagreements with Netoholic, I thought it best to start a new RFC to see if people have comments on Xiong's behavior that do not relate to Netoholic. Please give your thoughts and/or opinion on that at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Xiong. Radiant_* 08:27, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)

Reception theory

That approach to Wikipedia appals me. It never seems to have occurred to you (not you, sorry, User:Master_Thief_Garrett) , prior to VfDing the article, to just type reception-theory into Google. There youhe would have found oodles of material, quite enough to make a good stub. It's sheer laziness to VfD an article simply because you, personally, cannot make sense of it, you have to actually make an honest effort to perform at least *some* cleanup, otherwise you cannot say that it qualifies for deletion (I do understand that it wasn't you who listed the piece). You say "little or no context" but the name Stuart Hall should have been adequate context (if you don't know who he is, take a look, it's what Wikipedia is for!) From Stuart Hall (cultural theorist):

Stuart Hall is one of the main proponents of reception theory. This approach to textual analysis? focuses on the scope for negotiation and opposition on part of the audience. This means that a text — be it a book or a movie — is not simply passiviely accepted by the audience, but there is an element of activity involved. The person negotiates the meaning of the text. The meaning depends on the cultural background of the person. The background can explain how some readers accept a reading of a text while others reject it.

This kind of thing makes me scream and pull my hair out. Dealing with vandals is bad enough, but encyclopedists who can't be bothered to use the encyclopedia and do some research, that fills me with despair. Coming back to VfD after a couple of months away, I'm left with a profound sense of betrayal. Some perfectly good articles have been listed simply because the editor who listed them couldn't be bothered to do the most basic research. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 22:55, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Your vote for "Tick ToC"

Hi Carnildo. Have your issues regarding your vote of "Conditional support" for "Tick ToC" here been resolved? If so would you consider moving your vote to "Support"? Not campaigning here, just trying to make the results easier to interpret ;-) Paul August ☎ 16:49, Apr 29, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Denice_Cassaro

Thanks for your vote on this VfD. I won't use a winkie emoticon, but I'm grinning as I type this. Barno 01:52, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

List of national flags

Thanks for your revert. I probably used up all mine, so we need people like you to keep an eye on the page. I also request you watch the partner page, Gallery of national flags. That too is getting hit by people who are adding the Palestine flag without having the consensus reached. Thanks again.

I'm reporting a 3RR violation, as User:Tagteam213 is clearly a sockpuppet. --Carnildo 23:27, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Your report on the 3RR page seems kind of mangled. There was some page-doubling and subsequent repair on that article - perhaps you should check your entry there. -- John Fader (talk | contribs) 23:37, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

It looks OK to me. I noticed the page-doubling when I went to make the report, and did my best to fix it before reporting. --Carnildo 23:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, you were fixing it as I was typing the above message; it looks fine now. -- John Fader (talk | contribs) 23:43, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

I split the names/surnames discussion into categories

I realized that a discussion can quickly get messy, so I've split it into categories by preference. -- BDAbramson ^thimk 01:48, 2005 May 6 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Masts

The discussion has run its course, and with 22-to-6 votes I'd say there is enough consensus to implement Ten's merging proposal. I've closed the discussion and put up some conclusions as such. Could you please take a quick look at it and indicate on its talk page whether you agree? Yours, Radiant_* 09:02, May 11, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Maps of Korea

Yes there were eleven votes for getting rid of the page, but there were six to keep it. In general a two-thirds majority is the minimum needed to remove an article. - SimonP 23:19, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Anon votes are discounted when there is a suspicion of a sock puppetry. In this case the five other keep votes were by highly respected users. Moreover even if I had ignored the vote then the vote would still been a very dubious consensus. Also looking over the count again I don't see where you got your 11 remove votes, I can only find 10. If you fell strongly that the page should be removed, and I actually agree with you that it should go, the best option is to relist it on VfD. With such a close result the outcome may very well be different a second time round. - SimonP 23:49, May 13, 2005 (UTC)

Voting confusion

Hi there, I answered your querey on the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/BCE-CE Debate page, but just to let you know, if you vote "oppose", then that will result in a vote for the current system. --Silversmith 04:01, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

NPOV proposal

Please see the comments following your "confused" vote. I think you mean to vote "opposed" Slrubenstein | Talk 04:11, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

RFC

Don't worry about Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Postdlf. It's nothing more than a cheap trick at distraction and/or retaliation for my role in Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Daniel C. Boyer. It'll disappear after he fails to get anyone to join his certification within 48 hours of his posting. Postdlf 01:13, 18 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Deletion policy/Area codes

This discussion seems to have run its course, so I have closed it and drawn conclusions. Could you please briefly look at the conclusions and note on the talk page if you agree? Thanks, Radiant_* 09:38, May 18, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sock puppet/Proposal

Hi there! I've reworded this a bit per everyone's comment, and would like to get support to make this a guideline and allow it to be used. Could you please indicate if you agree? I was unsure if your earlier comment indicated agreement; in current practice, people who create a sock like Smell Etitis walk away unpunished, because they can hide behind anonymity. Even if they do it dozens of times. Is that desirable? Thanks, Radiant_* 12:28, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Ranks and insignia of Starfleet

Hello! I attempted to resolve your objection on the FAC page of this article. I removed pure fan ranks and referenced the others with source material from books and live action productions. There should be no more unsupported fanon ranks in the article. I was hopeing you could now change your vote. -Husnock 15:54, 19 May 2005 (UTC)

Interwiki Bots

Hi Carnildo. I've been thinking over the recent number of interwiki bot requests and I feel that introducing a more restrictive policy would slightly benefit the Wikipedia. I'd be delighted to hear your thoughts on the matter. Please see my comments regarding this matter at: Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)#Interwiki_Bot_Policy_Proposal. Thank you for your time. -- AllyUnion (talk) 08:22, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Bellevue_West_High_School (2nd_nomination)

Hi, I think if you reflect a bit you will probably want to moderate your comments on this VfD. We don't refer to one another as fanatics in this encyclopedia. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 00:06, 26 May 2005 (UTC)

RobotE

Hello Carnildo, I wish let you know that I am approving User:RobotE to run for a duration of one week. If you are watching its edits, and have a complaint, please leave a comment at Wikipedia talk:Bots. Thanks. -- AllyUnion (talk) 06:54, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Templates

You do have a fair point about some of those templates. I'll see what I can do about sorting those ones out that are not linked to by multiple articles, like the USS Wright ones. However, some of those, despite the fact that only one article links to them at the moment will be linked to by multiple articles once those articles are written. That is certainly the case for the Suribachi- and Lassen-class ammunition ships. In those cases I would say what I have done is exactly in line with what templates should be used for: ie content that needs to be the same over multiple articles for both consistency and ease of maintenance. David Newton 07:28, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

uwe kils

hallo Mark - my students exercised as oceanographers, taking code from my space preparing for a German demonstration project on virtual university, the idea of Erik Moeller (user:eloquence) of the Wikiversity for online e-teaching and e-research and I offered my cooperation as teacher and my interactive virtual microscope for a course in Meeresbiologie and Biologie der Antarktis - for that project it is important to have reproducible credentials for the teachers. We also plan to move educational content from expensive university servers to the free project (in Germany we don't even have tuition in the University) - help us - or not - I really don't care if I am sysop or not, I have that all behind me - we try to help the NeXT generation - best greetings - keep up with your fine work Uwe Kils 68.46.71.104 17:47, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Wikifan

On Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ranks and insignia of Starfleet, you wrote: In that case, you should probably list the article on VfD as being a mix of trivia and original research. I admit that's tempting, but I'm not sure that's the way. There are literally thousands of these crufty pages, and I oppose in principle blanket nominations for deletion. Nor do I want to start a battle with users who spend most of their lives immersed in fantasy warfare.

Please see Wikipedia:Wikifan for discussion of a solution to all these obsessive, repetitive articles. Note that your distaste for this matter should not keep you away from the project; if only fans participate, then obviously nothing will be done. What's wanted is activity by community members willing to put shoulders to the wheel to provide a graceful exit and destination for fancruft. — Xiong熊talk* 07:21, 2005 May 30 (UTC)

FAC

Please comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Starfleet ranks and insignia. I'm particularly worried that the article goes into more detail than almost all readers would be interested in reading (not going into so much detail is a FAC criteria). Thus longer sections should be summarized and the detail spun off into daughter articles, allowing readers to zoom to that level of detail if they so choose. --mav 16:20, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

Thank You Girl

Hi - I've just rewritten this article which you voted delete on at vfd - thought you might like to take another look...? Grutness...wha? 03:13, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Copyrights with no name calling!

I actually did not know the full details of copyrights on the movie pins from Starfleet ranks and insignia. Its actually something that most likely needs to be researched. And no need for name calling. I'm not made of straw and neither was my answer. It was simply the best info I knew. I wasnt trying to be a smart guy by using the Colonel metaphor, either. I work for the National Personnel Records Center and there is a law in place to deal with recreation of U.S. Army ranks, insignia, and medals. Its very complex, but I do know the Army waived rights to rank insignia copyrights a long time ago, possibly in World War II. Anyway, in all seriousness, thanks for the copyright update. The rank pins I would be interested in what you find out. -Husnock 00:40, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I see no namecalling. A straw man argument is a particular rhetorical technique where a point that appears to be relevant to the debate is made and defeated, when in fact it is irrelevant. --Carnildo 01:49, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

VFD

Just letting you know about Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/HYP (universities) 2. If you have an opinion, please vote. I am notifying people who have been active on either side of the debate. —Lowellian (talk) 23:49, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/College admissions and ranking shorthands in the United States

In that discussion you wrote "Maybe move to Harvard-Yale-Princeton or a similar title". The article has been split and expanded (in a way that I think won't incur GFDL problems) using as one half of the split that very title. Please re-visit the discussion. Uncle G 04:44, 2005 Jun 6 (UTC)

Thanks for your support

Thank you for voting on my RFA. Have some pie! I was pleasantly surprised by the sheer number of supporters (including several people that usually disagree with my opinion). I shall do my best with the proverbial mop. Yours, Radiant_>|< 08:02, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC)

Schools - merging is deletion

You are quite wrong that merging will "keep the inclusionists happy". Merging is a form of deletion. It is deletionists who advocate merging. CalJW 05:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)

You cunt

"Raul654 - Remove misplaced RfC request. If you want to file an RfC, do it in the same way as everyone else"

I don't have the time to file one, you stupid prick. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.253.96.42 (talk • contribs) Mgm (UTC)

• I moved the comment to the correct place on your page. Please don't use the roll back future if you decide to revert this comment by the anon. I manual removal with a more detailed message would make it easier to notice the comment in your page history. - Mgm|^(talk) 10:56, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

I appologise, that comment was made by my facile younger brother

Hello

Why are you removing the off-road speed from the infobox tables of German World War II vehicles?

Off-road speed depends of the terrain. Difrent terrain, difrent speed.

RfA thanks

Thanks for your support for my adminship. Your comment on the "stalking" issue was very helpful, _ appreciate you taking the time to look into it. BTW, if you enjoy BJAODN then you should visit Harrison Dimple Jr. before it is deleted. Cheers, -Willmcw June 28, 2005 18:19 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out! --Carnildo 28 June 2005 19:48 (UTC)

Washington election

Thank you for removing your objection to the FAC of the article, but I was wondering if you would also consider supporting it? Thank you! Páll 30 June 2005 09:32 (UTC)

Now that I've had a chance to do a thorough reading of the article, I've still got a few objections, but they should be easy enough to fix. --Carnildo 30 June 2005 18:35 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Starfleet ranks and insignia

The article has been improved drasticaly, I think this is a good enough reason to reopen the FA status of this article. To be fair I am notifying all parties involved with the article on old candidacy. If I forgot one of you, its not intentional. Thats all for now --Cool Cat ^{My Talk} 1 July 2005 00:15 (UTC)

Pang uk

Sorry to bother you, but I do hope that you could kindly rethink your redirect vote. Another kind of stilt house, the Papua New Guinea stilt house, is added. I've stated some other reasons supporting to keep the artice in this page as well. Thank you for your attention. :-) -- Jerry Crimson Mann 2 July 2005 18:47 (UTC)

African-American lit images

From your message at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/African-American literature I understand you can't respond for a few days, but when you get back please let me know about the issues surround the Toni Morrison image at African-American literature. As someone who worked in book publishing for a while--and had to constantly deal with copyright issues--I think the image I am using falls under fair use and permitted use (due to the permission statement at the bottom of the image). I have also made a strong effort to have the minimum number of fair use images in the article (with compares well with most featured articles, where almost every image seems to be used under fair use). Thanks. --Alabamaboy 2 July 2005 19:52 (UTC)

Alice!

Hi. You added a note on the Alice (web comic) article to the webcomic WikiProject page last month, saying that it needs to be written in a more encyclopedic style. As the self-nominated guardian of the article, I was wondering if you had any suggestions for it or criticisms of its present state. The contents have been cleaned up to some extent after the note. -- Kizor 4 July 2005 06:14 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/History of Poland (1945-1989) pictures

I am trying to answer some of your objections about the copyright status of pictures.

• Image:Nowahuta.jpg is used on the Polish Wikipedia, where it originally came from. However, no copyright was given over there.
• I replaced Image:Ac.gomulka.jpg with Image:Wladyslaw Gomulka.jpg, so the first image can now be placed on WP:IFD.
• I found three sources for Image:1981 01 Lech Walesa.jpg. Originally, it came from a Mexican website, but it could have been copied from other locations. I think this photo was taken by the Vatican or the AP.
• I tagged Image:Wyszyński.jpg with the template Polishpd, since I assume it was taken in the 1950's or 1960's, sometime that is covered by that template.
• I am trying to find a source or a new version of Image:Pope-poland.jpg
  • Stupid me, the source is at http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/rvp/pubaf/chronicle/v13/a14/pope-poland.jpg. However, the Christian Science Monitor has said the image was taken by the AP. http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/1016/p06s02-wogn.html?mostViewed

If you have any questions, just let me know. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 8 July 2005 02:29 (UTC)

Thanks. I think the fair-use images should be removed from the article, since they aren't essential to it. Image:Nowahuta.jpg is probably GFDL or another free license, since the only copy of it I could find online was a defunct Wikipedia mirror, but it's not likely to be clarified, as the original uploader is only sporadically active. It should be replaced with an image with a known license. --Carnildo 8 July 2005 04:03 (UTC)

That means we have almost two more images we need to figure out. But, I am not sure if we can find free sources. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 8 July 2005 04:28 (UTC)

Have you checked Commons? --Carnildo 8 July 2005 05:44 (UTC)

Nope. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 8 July 2005 06:48 (UTC)

Which images are disputed now? If none, could you change your vote? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus ^Talk 10:56, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Image:Nowahuta.jpg still doesn't have any information on its copyright status. --Carnildo 17:48, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

I cannot seem to locate a similiar picture, or even pictures of the place. I suggest to remove it for now from this page, then look for copyright OK photos. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:28, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Source Text

Please see Wikipedia:Bible source text ~~~~ 9 July 2005 18:14 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/DreamGuy-2

In case you haven't checked back, I have cited several "diff"s, providing concrete evidence of DreamGuy's snide and detestable behaviour, on the page. elvenscout742 13:23, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Carnildo, please remove or revise your "Outside view" as it shows that you have not really looked into the references provided. --AI 00:24, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Actually, I think it shows quite well that I've looked into this matter. My "outside view" stays as-is. --Carnildo 04:03, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Fine. Your view that "I see nothing particularly serious in the way of personal attacks by DreamGuy, particularly nothing worthy of a permanent ban" is contrary to: There is no excuse for personal attacks on other contributors.Wikipedia:No personal attacks You should have ignored any suggestion of a permanent ban because such suggestions are not part of the RfC protocol. You have gotten 10 people to endorse your off-policy view.

Missing Sun myth

I can see why this might be put on the Lamest Edit Wars thing, but it's not really amusing when DreamGuy can consistently find new ways of damaging it, and when now the best argument against has been mysteriously deleted. elvenscout742 11:20, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

List of Revolution games

I wanted to ask that you comment on Wikipedia talk:Votes for deletion/List of Nintendo Revolution games, now that I've improved the list to disclude rumors. -- A Link to the Past 05:00, July 16, 2005 (UTC)