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Timestamp for archiving. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 13:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Automated archiving request == |
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Is there a way we can let things sit here for a week or so before they get put away? Thanks, --<font face="Futura">[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User talk:A. B.|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] </font> 00:30, 7 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:I would be more in favour of the system like on [[WP:COIN]], items sit here until we define them as resolved, and then they get archived. Many of the issues are not closed, but still get archived. --[[User:Beetstra|Dirk Beetstra]] <sup>[[User_Talk:Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">T</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Beetstra|<span style="color:#0000FF;">C</span>]]</sup> 07:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::Having seen how [[WP:COIN]] does archiving, I like this automated system better. Some problems are never 100% resolved and it may be better to take them away on a schedule. However the Werdnabot template on this page (which instructs Shadowbot3) is set to archive any thread that is inactive for 3 days. I think that's very fast. The size of this page is only 70kb at present, which is not very big. ([[Talk:Evolution]] has been as large as 300 kb and it didn't fall over). How about doubling the archive time, from 3 to 6 days? That would result in a Talk page no bigger than 140 kb, which is still tolerable. |
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::Please leave a comment here on your preference for the archiving delay (number of days). [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] 01:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:::My 2 cents: at least 6 days. --<font face="Futura">[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User talk:A. B.|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] </font> 02:23, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Since no-one objected to a longer archiving delay, I increased it from 3 to 6 days by changing the Werdnabot template. [[User:EdJohnston|EdJohnston]] 02:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== stickycarpet.com == |
== stickycarpet.com == |
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I apologise for the external post and now realise it was misguided and I will apologise to Mr Goldberg regarding the uncivil edits on his page which would seem to be the result of my external post. I would rather like to now draw a close on this matter as it has been genuinely upsetting. All I'm asking is no more personal allegations of impropriety. MB |
I apologise for the external post and now realise it was misguided and I will apologise to Mr Goldberg regarding the uncivil edits on his page which would seem to be the result of my external post. I would rather like to now draw a close on this matter as it has been genuinely upsetting. All I'm asking is no more personal allegations of impropriety. MB |
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==http://spam.info.md/== |
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* {{spamlink|dent.info.md}} |
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I'd like others' opinions on this site as an external link. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] 21:11, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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This site is published as a blog, loaded with google ads before and after each post, does not cite sources for medical information, and is barely even english (see http://dent.info.md/about/). I would fail it on many accounts. [[User:Maralia|Maralia]] 21:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Thanks! --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] 21:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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*{{vandal|Alesnormales}} all these links (40+) |
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--[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] 21:54, 8 August 2007 (UTC) |
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:Links removed. All 40+ links were added by Alesnormales. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] 01:30, 9 August 2007 (UTC) |
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* {{spamlink|info.md}} |
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:Looks like there are some others on the same domain. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] 01:32, 9 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::All but one added by Alesnormales. All now removed. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] 01:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC) |
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* strange thing - your contribution in world information organization |
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:It's very strange for me. I have ONE account, ONE website on dental theme. I collect all useful information, pay for journalist, give the visitor what I can't found by myself. Than I go to that themes and post thematic external links which are useful for visitors (I know, they say so). It isn't only one link, it isn't only one page it is REALLY external thematic informational link. And a determine "[[SPAM]] - unsolicited or undesired bulk electronic messages" (as saying Wikipedia) sounds as insulting for me. |
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::All links where chosen very careful... |
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:::This was a big "Thanks" from you and great incentive for further activity |
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::::P.S.: I do not remember a lot of informative medical sites which have not google (or another) ads . It's just a little money for enthusiasm... |
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::::P.P.S.: And please learn what is [[vandalism]] and do not say it for any person who makes something you do not understand --[[User:Alesnormales|Alesnormales]] 9 August 2007 |
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:::You certainly [[duck test|quacked loudly]] like a [[WP:SPAM#How not to be a spammer|spammer]]. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 11:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC) |
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: Alesnormales, I would suggest that you get more familiar with the [[WP:COI|Conflict of Interest Policy]] for Wikipedia. Any links that are added where a COI exists are defined to be spam, no matter how useful they might be. The COI document outlines the correct procedure for getting potentially useful links reviewed by other non-COI editors. Thanks. -- [[User:Alucard (Dr.)|Alucard (Dr.)]] | [[User talk:Alucard (Dr.)|Talk]] 13:00, 9 August 2007 (UTC) |
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::::Domains linked from Wikipedia articles: |
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::::*http://dent.info.md |
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::::**Google Adsense ID 5950004025334465 |
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::::***{{User:A. B./spam|dent.info.md}} |
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::::*http://tea.info.md |
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::::**Google Adsense ID 6657890256191559 |
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::::***{{User:A. B./spam|tea.info.md}} |
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::::*http://allawards.blogspot.com |
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::::**{{User:A. B./spam|allawards.blogspot.com}} |
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::::Related domains: |
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::::*http://advice.org.md |
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::::**Google Adsense ID 6657890256191559 |
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::::***{{User:A. B./spam|advice.org.md}} |
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::::*http://herbalnature.blogspot.com |
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::::**Google Adsense ID 5950004025334465 |
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::::***{{User:A. B./spam|herbalnature.blogspot.com}} |
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::::*http://generalmobility.blogspot.com |
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::::**Google Adsense ID 5950004025334465 |
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::::***{{User:A. B./spam|generalmobility.blogspot.com}} |
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::::Accounts: |
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::::*{{User:A. B./IPwhois|83.218.211.55}} |
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::::*{{User:A. B./UserSummary|Alesnormales}} |
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::::--<font face="Futura">[[User:A. B.|A. B.]] [[User talk:A. B.|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] </font> 06:02, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Archive of spammed sites? == |
== Archive of spammed sites? == |
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:No other edits were found on Wikipedia from the range 64.132.166.192-223, except for 64.132.166.194--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] 07:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC) |
:No other edits were found on Wikipedia from the range 64.132.166.192-223, except for 64.132.166.194--[[User:Hu12|Hu12]] 07:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== http://spam.bullying.co.uk == |
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{{spamlink|bullying.co.uk}} |
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;Spammers |
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*{{vandal|Dinnermoney}} |
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See [[WP:ANI#LinkSPAM binge by Dinnermoney]]. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:03, 10 August 2007 (UTC) |
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== Indian spam == |
== Indian spam == |
Revision as of 00:05, 17 August 2007
As a courtesy, please consider informing other editors if their actions are being discussed. At all times, please remember WP:CIVIL, WP:AGF, and WP:BITE. Calling another user a spammer may be taken as an insult, so focus on the edits rather than the editor. |
- wikivorce.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spam sock accounts
86.141.70.151 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
82.242.159.154 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hu12 (talk • contribs)
Timestamp for archiving. MER-C 13:23, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
stickycarpet.com
stickycarpet.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- 80.189.243.130 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 91.125.36.200 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 91.125.24.177 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 91.125.43.141 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 91.125.108.44 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 91.125.198.147 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
MER-C 12:11, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Still spamming:
- 91.15.200.169 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 91.125.221.41 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 91.125.208.144 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- --A. B. (talk) 14:05, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- Still spamming:
- Related domain:
- http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~bevhome
- The 4 existing links on en.wikipedia appear to have been added by others
- users.globalnet.co.uk/~bevhome: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~bevhome
- Related domain:
- Blacklisting request
- meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#stickycarpet.com (permanent link)
- --A. B. (talk) 16:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- Blacklisting request
- Additional accounts:
- 80.189.122.144 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 80.189.15.230 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 80.189.221.52 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 80.189.226.59 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 80.189.8.114 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 80.2.194.51 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- --A. B. (talk) 07:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Additional accounts:
Hi guys. I'm the webmaster. This is all very disappointing and upsetting. My site, which is one of the oldest on the web (created 1999) dedicated to 2D shooters (predated only by shmups.com to my knowledge), is (or so I thought) a respected website in the shmups community, is not a commercial site and gains nothing from so called' spam' linking. Others have added links I noticed in the past to some of my pages, some have been added from similar IP addresses, if so this is unfortunate and I apologise on their behalf but I don't feel it deserves a blanket ban or warrants the domain to be designated as 'spam'. I myself have amended links on wikipedia posted by others to the new domain from the old one at globalnet. This is because the pages have been updated with added information (the globalnet ones date from 2000). These were from the IP starting 80. I was unaware of breaking any Wikipedia policy at the time and again I apologise if I have done so. I genuinely believed it would be an appreciated act in the Wikipedia community to update the old links, which I reiterate were added by others. I would like an independent observer/video games collective to look at the links/pages concerned and decide whether or not they should be excluded. The site is non-profit and only seeks to entertain and inform. It really does not deserve this kinds of treatment. This has all got needlessly out-of-hand. MB
—The preceding comment was added by 194.203.91.252 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- MB, as was explained multiple times to you (and while dealing with your rude behavior on my talk page that I did not deserve either), there are rules for links here. As stated at WP:EL, they have to contain further research, or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion. It is not a statement against you or your site or you, all proposed links are held to the same standards. And your site being well respected has nothing to do with the issue either, since its an issue of content, not credibility. And yes, putting a link to your own site in when its been removed is a Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest. Lastly, I am an "an independent observer/video games collective" and a member of the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games, and upon review of the links had decided to back up MER-C's edits and reasoning. --Marty Goldberg 20:30, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Marty, with all due respect I would suggest that you exercise a certain level of restraint in posting unsubstantiated allegations on a public forum, either here or on the talk pages of others. It's un-constructive, unflattering to both parties, and doesn't reflect on Wikipedia itself in a particularly positive manner. Your talk page history indicates involvement by a number of seperate Wikipedia users in diverse geographical locations both in the US, Europe and also seperate cities in the UK. Similarly the IP's listed above as being related to alleged 'spam linking' are part of the Brightview/Global.net network which routes a number of high profile broadband providers here in the UK all managed by BT (British Telecom) and operates over the majority of Southern and Central England.
Any number of ISP's users would therefore have access to them including all broadband users on Global Internet, Waitrose Internet, Madasafish and Freenetname.com and also I suspect certain users of btinternet.com and its affiliates. And again they appear to be associated with users in a number of UK cities and in one case another country. The issue here is not with the limited number of edits/reverts you yourself made but with the designation of the site's domain on this page. MB
—The preceding comment was added by 213.123.37.252 (talk • contribs) 13:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- We don't simply assume that all IP addresses in the same bloc are puppets of one person (or group of people). It's the similarity of their editing pattern that makes us think it is a not random chance - IP addresses whose only edits are to add the link, normally to multiple articles; no significant addition of content or engagement with others. The fact that the IP addresses above are similar adds weight to that belief because it is a visible channel, but really it simply shows that s/he/they aren't using techniques as sophisticated as some of the people who edit Wikipedia with an agenda. The Spam label can a bit of a red flag, but the essence of the matter is that Wikipedia needs to be able to ensure its content is not skewed by people who's only agenda is to get a particular link on the site. As such, since we were unable to stop it by asking, blacklisting is one of the few tools we have to protect our encyclopedia. Our priority here is to protect our encyclopedia. -- SiobhanHansa 14:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- In response to MB's comments here and on Meta that he had received an unfair deal on Wikipedia, I pieced together a chronology of link additions and edits:
- 2 June to 3 June 2007 80.189.243.130
- adds new stickycarpet.com links to 5 articles and updates an older link in 1 article.[1]
- In response to MB's comments here and on Meta that he had received an unfair deal on Wikipedia, I pieced together a chronology of link additions and edits:
- 17 June 2007, 91.125.36.200
- adds new stickycarpet.com links to 7 articles
- 18 June 2007, 91.125.43.141
- adds new stickycarpet.com links to 14 articles and updates an older link in 1 article.[2]
- 20 June 2007, 91.125.108.44
- adds a new link to one article.
- 10 July 2007, 91.125.24.177
- adds new stickycarpet.com links to 2 articles
- 10:48 to 11:44, 7 August 2007 91.125.198.147
- adds new stickycarpet.com links to 8 articles
- 11:46, 7 August 2007 MER-C
- issues first warning to 91.125.198.147
- 11:50, 7 August 2007 91.125.198.147
- 11:51, 7 August 2007 MER-C
- issues second warning to 91.125.198.147
- 11:56, 7 August 2007 Ben W Bell
- issues third warning to 91.125.198.147
- 11:57, 7 August 2007 91.125.198.147
- 12:00, 7 August 2007 91.125.198.147
- 12:03,12:04, 7 August 2007 91.125.198.147
- 12:04, 7 August 2007 Ben W Bell
- blocks 91.125.198.147 for spamming[3]
- 12:45 to 12:54, 7 August 2007 91.125.198.147
- objects to being blocked
- 13:32 to 13:32, 7 August 2007 80.2.194.51 (new IP address)
- adds 3 links back
- 14:14, 7 August 2007 91.15.200.169 (new IP address)
- adds 1 link back by replacing an existing link.[4]
- 14:27 to 14:29, 7 August 2007 91.125.208.144 (new IP address)
- complains to Wgungfu (aka "Marty Goldberg") on Wgungfu's talk page about link removals
- 14:40, 7 August 2007 91.125.208.144
- replaces recently deleted stickycarpet.com links
- 14:46 to 14:47, 7 August 2007 Wgungfu
- writes on his talk page and explains the rules to 91.125.208.144
- 15:04 to 15:06 7 August 2007 80.189.221.52 (new IP address)
- responds politely on Wgungfu's talk page
- 16:58, 7 August 2007, 91.125.221.41 (new IP address)
- requests at Talk:R-Type that stickycarpet.com link be added to the R-Type article
- 17:01 and 17:03, 7 August 2007, 91.125.221.41
- replaces existing www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~bevhome link with the equivalent stickycarpet.com links in two articles
- 17:37, 7 August 2007, 80.189.226.59 (new IP address)
- complains] on Wgungfu's talk page that Wgungfu has not responded (Wgungfu was off-line from 15:18 to 18:21). 80.189.226.59 criticizes Wgungfu harshly.
- 17:56 to 17:57, 7 August 2007, 80.189.15.230 (new IP address)
- appends further criticism to the 17:37 comment on Wgungfu's talk page, accusing Wgungfu of working for a competing site (Classic Gaming) and working from bad faith.
- 18:10, 7 August 2007, 80.189.8.114 (new IP address)
- edits earlier comment by 91.125.208.144 on Wgungfu's talk page.
- 18:21 to 18:24, 7 August 2007, Wgungfu
- responds that Classic Gaming is not his site and reiterates early points made. Deletes some of 80.189.8.114's comments from his talk page
- 18:27, 7 August 2007, 80.189.122.144 (new IP address)
- restores text deleted by Wgungfu from Wgungfu's talk page. Wgungfu deletes comment again.
- 18:32 18:31, 7 August 2007, 80.189.122.144
- adds comment back to Wgungfu's talk page and Wgungfu deletes it again.
- 18:44 to 18:45, 7 August 2007, 80.189.122.144
- writes on Wgungfu's talk page: "Feeling like you have to resort to threats? Other people on the shmups forum have been informed of this ridiculous charade and they are not too impressed." Wgungfu deletes the remark.
- 18:51, 7 August 2007, 71.184.103.90
- 18:54 to 18:56, 7 August 2007, 80.189.122.144
- 18:57, 7 August 2007, 80.189.122.144
- lets off another jab Wgungfu's talk page.
- 19:02, 7 August 2007, 80.189.122.144
- calls Wgungfu a "prick" Wgungfu's talk page. Wgungfu deletes the remark.
- 22:31, 7 August 2007, 217.85.235.95, a possible zombie PC
- describes Wgungfu's behaviour as "fascist" and suggests he be "banned" from Wikipedia. Wgungfu deletes the remark.
- --A. B. (talk) 04:32, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- See this shmups.com thread started by the owner of stickycarpet.com/dam. In particular, note this comment at 13:09 on 7 August:
- "Bloody Wikipedia. Have just been notified that some external links I added for DAM on wikipedia, not for personal gain but because I feel some of the info on DAM is pertinent.. have been block-removed and the damn 'link update patrol' nazis have are now trying to ban the domain for apparently 'spamming' and adding 'innapropriate content'. Eh..??? If somebody can start with linking to the DAM on their entry for 'shootemups' I'd be most grateful."[5]
- *Update: Note that at 12:23 pm and 3:54 pm on Sat Aug 11, 2007, MB subsequently edited his earlier remarks on the schmups.com thread above.--A. B. (talk) 16:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Note 12:04 time of 91.125.198.147's block and MB's 13:09 comment above. We know from MB's earlier comment that he's also edited from "the IP starting 80".
- See this shmups.com thread started by the owner of stickycarpet.com/dam. In particular, note this comment at 13:09 on 7 August:
- Observations:
- Lots of new links added in a linking campaign
- Almost all the activity comes from two tight IP clusters in England, 91,125.x.x and 80.189.x.x. On 7 August, they were so tightly coordinated they appear to quite possibly have been the same person. After the call went out on shmups.com, there were other comments from the U.S.(71.184.103.90) and Germany (217.85.235.95).
- Disregard for requests to stop spamming
- Site-owner's lack of interest in Wikipedia's content standards combined with a passion to get things his way.
- Aggressive incivility from the site owner
- --A. B. (talk) 05:05, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Observations:
A.B. again you are posting potentially libellous unproven allegations on a public forum. I have come on here to discuss this in a transparent manner and as you have now personally implicated me in the majority of actions above (and yes I admit to the shmups.com post.. I was upset at the time as the action felt unjustified.. do you understand that? I'm human.) and this to me is unnacceptable. (If not illogical seeing as I would like to know how I can be located in Essen, Germany, Virginia, USA and several UK cities all in the space of about 3-4 hours). If you wish to blacklist the site then you are free to do so but as I have a reputation to up-hold in the 'real world' being a journalist, if any impartial administrators would like to advise me how to proceed in the face of the above libellous posts I would be grateful of their advice MB
—The preceding comment was added by 213.123.37.252 (talk • contribs) 12:52, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Not a lawyer, but I have no stake in this discussion. Would suggest you read WP:LEGAL. -- Alucard (Dr.) | Talk 12:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm no admin, but, I'd start as advised above, and not make legal threats. All that's probably gonna accomplish, is getting people to dig their heels in. I'd probably also refrain from getting friends to mass re-add your site's links. I'd also, probably not edit-war over the links. It's also worthwhile to note, that Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, so, having your link here isn't going to help 'drive traffic', or anything for you. You might seek assistance at the Administrator's noticeboard, if you're looking for an admin, however. --SXT4 13:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
I'd probably also refrain from getting friends to mass re-add your site's links
I assure you I have no interest in doing this ;)
MB
—The preceding comment was added by 194.203.91.252 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- MERc the shmups forum post was referring to my discovery of this edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shoot_%27em_up&diff=prev&oldid=149755622 (I'm afraid I took particular offence at your label of 'spam' - it is generally considered insulting to call someone a 'spammer' or their site 'spam') and then finding the other roll-backs through cross-linking. After spending nearly ten years of my life working on the site (which is non-commercial, gains me no income and receives/received to my knowldege hardly any significant extra traffic through Wikipedia external links) I obviously have an emotional attachment to it so I was a little shocked to say the least. If you are holding this as an admission of guilt or implication in any/all of the above then you are clearly stretching the bounds of logic, as is A.B.'s admirably researched but clearly un-objective post above.
- —The preceding comment was added by 194.203.91.252 (talk • contribs) 14:19, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- MERc the shmups forum post was referring to my discovery of this edit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shoot_%27em_up&diff=prev&oldid=149755622 (I'm afraid I took particular offence at your label of 'spam' - it is generally considered insulting to call someone a 'spammer' or their site 'spam') and then finding the other roll-backs through cross-linking. After spending nearly ten years of my life working on the site (which is non-commercial, gains me no income and receives/received to my knowldege hardly any significant extra traffic through Wikipedia external links) I obviously have an emotional attachment to it so I was a little shocked to say the least. If you are holding this as an admission of guilt or implication in any/all of the above then you are clearly stretching the bounds of logic, as is A.B.'s admirably researched but clearly un-objective post above.
- Blacklist the site, this is clearly unacceptable behavior. I'll also look into these IP addresses' history and may block some or all for incivility and threats. If this requires a range block I'll consult other admins, hopefully the editors concerned will take the hint. Tim Vickers 14:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Harassment#Off-wiki_harassment Harassment of other Wikipedians through the use of external links is considered equivalent to the posting of personal attacks on Wikipedia...off-wiki harassment can be grounds for blocking, and in extreme cases, banning. see also WP:NPA#Off-wiki_personal_attacks. --Hu12 06:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- For your own self-interest, I personally recommend you read all the following hyperlinked material very closely:
- The article on slander and libel (keeping in mind Wikipedia's legal disclaimer as you read it). In particular:
- What's required to prevail in a libel suit in U.S.A.
- What are defences in a libel suit
- How courts in Wikipedia's jurisdiction (the U.S. A.) decide libel cases
- Wikipedia's No Legal Threats Policy
- "If you make legal threats, you may be blocked from editing so that the matter is not exacerbated through other than legal channels. Users who make legal threats will typically be blocked from editing indefinitely, while legal threats are outstanding."
- Wikipedia's Libel Policy
- Your own characterizations of other editors and their behaviour here and elsewhere in light of your accusations of libel.
- How Wikipedia defines certain terms; this will be relevant in any libel litigation
- Various Wikipedia terms and conditions:
- General disclaimer, especially the section:
- Legal disclaimer
- The article on slander and libel (keeping in mind Wikipedia's legal disclaimer as you read it). In particular:
- If you truly are interested in pursuing litigation, I personally suggest you obtain professional legal advice immediately.
- Note that I do not speak for the Wikimedia Foundation in any of my remarks on this matter. Any opinions I've expressed are purely my own. --A. B. (talk) 16:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Blacklist the site, this is clearly unacceptable behavior. I'll also look into these IP addresses' history and may block some or all for incivility and threats. If this requires a range block I'll consult other admins, hopefully the editors concerned will take the hint. Tim Vickers 14:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
A.B. Merely stating that your comments are potentially libellous is in no way a threat of legal action, just a statement of fact. I ask you how youself would feel if you were in my situation under the fire of what amounts to character assasination? Some of your comments are completely misrepresentative, if not defammatory towards me, and consist of unfounded allegations (basically assumptions/suspicions drawn by yourself). How am I supposed to respond to those? As stated before I have come here in good faith, totally transparently (you have my full name, I do not have yours) and in a constructive manner. My reward has been accusational behaviour from others including yourself.
I would for a start remove points 4 and 5 in your previous post 'observations', they are of a personal nature, defammatory and unproven, as is the shmups.com post being assumed as a indicator of guilt (of what is unspecified - my post actually refers to the 80.189.243.130 additions only) on my part here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Spam_blacklist#stickycarpet.com (again totally unfounded and defammatory in nature). I trust that you will understand that my observations and reasoning here are justifiable and amend your post/s to a more objective viewpoint not aimed personally at myself. MB
—The preceding comment was added by 194.203.91.252 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Everybody Stop For A Second
Please stop throwing the no legal threats policy around. No threat was made, and a claim that a statement is potentially libelous does not constitute a legal threat as far as Wikimedia is concerned until it reaches the point where it either has a severe chilling effect or the user intends to pursue legal action.
MB, as a note right now, please make yourself aware of the above policy and if you have a legal complaint you can direct it at info-en (at) wikimedia (dot) org, and myself or someone else on OTRS will get it to the appropriate place.
That is all the warning that needs to be given now. Let's completely drop the libel issue, and the legal issues, and get back to fighting over the stickycarpet links. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 17:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for setting us all straight, Swatjester on the legal stuff and I stand corrected on my legal comments. I defer to your considerable experience working as an OTRS volunteer for the Wikimedia Foundation (Wikipedia's owner) on Wikimedia's OTRS system. --A. B. (talk) 20:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, let's get back to the blacklist thing. So far we have several calls for it, and none against. I personally have a hard time believing any serious resolution will come from further discussion with him on the matter, specifically when he relates discussion of his conduct here as some sort of attack on his credibility as a "journalist" in the "real world". If he's concerned about his credibility and integrity and how its received, he should really take a close look at this conduct. I think A.B.'s reiteration of what happened on my talk page (badgering, swearing, name calling, etc.), and on the SHMUPS page (which he "threatened" on my talk page as well that he'd be posting to) are most telling of this. He's also been explained numerous times, it wasn't a reflection of the value or credibility of his site, but rather by Wikipedia's linking guidelines if it added anything to the entry other than just linking to someone's SHMUP site. And yet we're met with more claims (libel, etc.), far fetched explanations, and calls first for "impartial observers" (and then when he didn't get the response he liked is now calling for "impartial administrators". What will he do if he doesn't like their answer as well?) He wants to say that all the edits (same wording, conduct, purpose), and evidence (all IP's tracking back to his origin except for one to New York, and all in the same time frame) don't mean anything and its not him, then fine. Even though he clearly made the threat of bringing outside people in on my talk page and then (as A.B. uncovered) actually posted a post regarding that (in unison) on his forum. The funny thing is, we wouldn't have even known *who* was responsible for this (and there was no discussion to such regards) until he came here and posted his name and who he was. We were simply discussing the IP's conduct and the repeated additions of the links. So to turn around and claim libel is hilarious. Just blacklist already as a solution and we can all be happy and move on. --Marty Goldberg 20:54, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- I would be for it, unless the author specifically promises not to add the website himself anymore. There are already a few links (it's hard to say who added them; it may have been him). To the author, if you promise not to add the links anymore, as a spam/conflict of interest, then I say no. But if you don't promise, then we blacklist it. The Evil Spartan 23:58, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- That's not going to happen. The blacklist beckons... MER-C 06:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- I would be for it, unless the author specifically promises not to add the website himself anymore. There are already a few links (it's hard to say who added them; it may have been him). To the author, if you promise not to add the links anymore, as a spam/conflict of interest, then I say no. But if you don't promise, then we blacklist it. The Evil Spartan 23:58, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, let's get back to the blacklist thing. So far we have several calls for it, and none against. I personally have a hard time believing any serious resolution will come from further discussion with him on the matter, specifically when he relates discussion of his conduct here as some sort of attack on his credibility as a "journalist" in the "real world". If he's concerned about his credibility and integrity and how its received, he should really take a close look at this conduct. I think A.B.'s reiteration of what happened on my talk page (badgering, swearing, name calling, etc.), and on the SHMUPS page (which he "threatened" on my talk page as well that he'd be posting to) are most telling of this. He's also been explained numerous times, it wasn't a reflection of the value or credibility of his site, but rather by Wikipedia's linking guidelines if it added anything to the entry other than just linking to someone's SHMUP site. And yet we're met with more claims (libel, etc.), far fetched explanations, and calls first for "impartial observers" (and then when he didn't get the response he liked is now calling for "impartial administrators". What will he do if he doesn't like their answer as well?) He wants to say that all the edits (same wording, conduct, purpose), and evidence (all IP's tracking back to his origin except for one to New York, and all in the same time frame) don't mean anything and its not him, then fine. Even though he clearly made the threat of bringing outside people in on my talk page and then (as A.B. uncovered) actually posted a post regarding that (in unison) on his forum. The funny thing is, we wouldn't have even known *who* was responsible for this (and there was no discussion to such regards) until he came here and posted his name and who he was. We were simply discussing the IP's conduct and the repeated additions of the links. So to turn around and claim libel is hilarious. Just blacklist already as a solution and we can all be happy and move on. --Marty Goldberg 20:54, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Evil Spartan - many thanks for approaching this in a methodical and non-judgemental manner, it's greatly appreciated. I do indeed promise not to be involved in any 'conflict of interest' issues regarding to linking to the site on Wikipedia, and yesterday amended all posts at the external forum which might otherwise lead others to become involved, as stated 14:19, 11 August 2007. If you wish I can also ask for the entire thread to be deleted. However at this point in proceedings I am more concerned with the allegations of impropriety (WP:ICA) by other users, and as a new user on Wiki forums I'm surprised it is being allowed to continue.
I would have preferred to not to 'bite' regarding Mr Goldberg's last post but when he cannot even fact-check his allegations (perceiving a 'threat' and implying I was personally involved when his talkback edit was in fact written in the past tense and the external post he was alluding to being 'threatened' about was actually made more than 5 hours previously would seem to be very telling of his lack of impartiality in the matter. In fact the only 'threat' I can see appears to be his own one to report/block the involved IP's and blacklist the domain, which probably would have exacerbated the situation.
I apologise for the external post and now realise it was misguided and I will apologise to Mr Goldberg regarding the uncivil edits on his page which would seem to be the result of my external post. I would rather like to now draw a close on this matter as it has been genuinely upsetting. All I'm asking is no more personal allegations of impropriety. MB
Archive of spammed sites?
Is there any place which keeps a record of sites which have been spammed in the past? So we can check if they need to be blacklisted if they do it again? Kappa 04:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think most busted previous spamming campaigns are contained in the archives of this page. So, if a linksearch shows links to archives of this page and/or it finds URLs like http://spam.example.com it's been spammed before. MER-C 09:58, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
- OK well should I use it like that? If I revert a bunch of spam xlinks I come here and mention it? Kappa 12:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.bridgeworldwide.com marketing company
64.132.166.194 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) This IP address (infact the range 64.132.166.192 - 64.132.166.223)is registered to bridgeworldwide.com a marketing company who has used Wikipedia to promote their clients.
I haven't gone through the other IP accounts on Wikipedia yet - they probably only use one of the addresses for outbound Internet browsing, but checking wouldn't hurt. -- SiobhanHansa 18:53, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
bridgeworldwide.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
No links to their website yet. MER-C 08:52, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- No other edits were found on Wikipedia from the range 64.132.166.192-223, except for 64.132.166.194--Hu12 07:08, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Indian spam
- Sites spammed
- mapsofworld.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- mapsofindia.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- getallinfo.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- himachalpradeshindia.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- indiawildlifeportal.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- chesssetstore.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- dgreetings.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- craftsinindia.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- indiahandicraftstore.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- 123chinesenewyear.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- indiaedu.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- indianenglishliterature.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- kashmirhub.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- 59.144.165.88 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- Chtaere (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Nalini sharma1984 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
See also Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/59.144.165.88. MER-C 11:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- This is huge. Can I have some help, please? MER-C 12:18, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Looks like this is almost wrapped up. The first two, mapsofworld.com and mapsofindia.com, are taking some time because they are often used as inline cited references, occasionally in Featured Articles. Thus, I am trying to carefully evaluate each one on a case by case basis; a second opinion on the remaining links would still be appreciated. Thanks to MER-C and others for tackling most of this. -- Satori Son 18:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Need assistance with Inter-Asterisk eXchange and YATE spammer
A new user is persistent in spamming her software project YATE on WP. (The YATE article has been removed multiple times and is now under a DRV). User has been warned and links removed from many articles under an IP user id 83.166.206.79. She now has created a user id User:Diana cionoiu. She has openly acknowledged that her job is to promote YATE and she has requested help on the YATE project talk page for others to assist her in promoting YATE on WP. Most of the EL's she's added have already been removed but on Inter-Asterisk eXchange, she has solicited another WP user User:Apankrat to assist her and we are currently at the 3RR level. The article lists groups and organizations that are related to the topic, none of which have ELs. These two insist upon listing YATE with an EL. This lady is persistent and now has requested this WP user to add links to her project on other articles as well User talk:Apankrat. Any assistance here would be appreciated. Calltech 03:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- To clarify - user Diana solicited help on my Talk page AFTER I linked Yate from IAX page. She did NOT solicit initial edit. It was my own decision based on notability and relevance of the link to the content of IAX page. Whoever is reviewing this case, please keep in mind that Calltech and Diana users were engaged in what appears to be a minor war editing and they are both naturally biased on the subject. I posted detailed rationale for my edits on Talk:Inter-Asterisk_eXchange, please consider reviewing them as well. Alex Pankratov 05:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- User:Diana cionoiu openly solicited links on Talk:Inter-Asterisk eXchange to her project's webpage and Alex Pankratov responded (inline comments on article talk page). His edits did not happen independent of Diana's action or request. She then proceeded to specifically solicit Alex Pankratov to add additional links on his talk page.
- You were the one who suggested Diana to "add a comment on the article's discussion page and request another neutral editor add the information if they agree", which effectively amounts to endorsing the solicitation. I was following your advice, not hers.
- I said information, not link. Perhaps I should have been more expicit. Adding information consistent with the other organizations would have been even a better explanation. Calltech 16:41, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- You were the one who suggested Diana to "add a comment on the article's discussion page and request another neutral editor add the information if they agree", which effectively amounts to endorsing the solicitation. I was following your advice, not hers.
- YATE is NOT notable by WP definition Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/YATE, (which Alex Pankratov is aware) - the YATE article has been deleted 3 times!.
- The article IAX has a history of collecting ELs and has been cleaned up since April 2007 by myself and other editors, long before these "edit wars" as described by Alex Pankratov occured. Alex Pankratov now appears to advocate the restoration of all of these external links Talk:Inter-Asterisk_eXchange.
- I provided an extended rationale for this, which you appear to be persistently ignoring.
- However, he made no comment when the article was cleaned up months ago, even though he has made edits since the cleanup. (See edit history).
- I was not aware of the article "months ago".
- Now he is now selectively adding an EL to a specific website, claiming WP guidelines are secondary to the perceived special value that the YATE link offers, without offering any basis for this decision.
- I have never said that. Please do not twist my words. I said that WP EL policy is secondary to any changes that remove valuable relevant content from the article. My comment was NOT Yate specific.
- My "bias" is against users who insist upon promoting their projects using WP. Calltech 12:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- As per this edit you don't seem to have a problem with referencing Yate in the article. So I am not sure why exactly you decided to initiate this complaint to begin with. The core of the matter that led to 3RR was a presence of EL in the reference. I have justified my edit, and you produced an superficial argument of "not a collection of links" that is completely irrelevant in the context. Alex Pankratov 15:25, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- I read Talk:Inter-Asterisk eXchange on the subject of YATE, to learn about the issue. Then I turned to the article itself to see if it mentioned YATE in its text. It did not do so. It doesn't say that you could use YATE as a server, or say why you would want to. I'd expect to see at least one report by an actual third party that had used YATE as an IAX server, in other words, a source proving the significance of YATE that could be included as a reference in the IAX article. The YATE site says little about IAX; IAX is just one of the protocols that YATE claims to support. The site also has some cookbook instructions for how to set it up as an IAX server. If you want to learn anything at all about IAX from that site, you'd be disappointed. The connection, and the relevance, seems very thin. If reliable material were added to the article text, it could make a difference. As of now I don't see the link to be justified. EdJohnston 15:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Can you please elaborate why the reference itself is justified, but the link is not ? If Yate is not notable (though from a casual glance it appears to be), it should be removed altogether. Thanks. Alex Pankratov 16:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- If a computer magazine had written about an actual person or company using YATE as an IAX server, that article would be referenceable. Existence of such a third-party reference could make YATE significant enough to justify an external link to their website. Once it is found that the IAX article needs to have a section discussing various providers of server software. EdJohnston 16:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ugh, this does not answer my question actually. Magazine article would establish notability, wouldn't it ? So I follow your logic, it's OK to have a reference to a non-notable subject, but it just won't get a link. This is not how Notability policy works in WP. Alex Pankratov 16:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- IF the product is notable in this context, it might be worth providing a link to the YATE site for the convenience of our readers. If it's not notable, it doesn't deserve a link. What is mysterious about that? EdJohnston 16:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- So if it's not notable, it doesn't deserve a link, but still deserves an entry ? Alex Pankratov 17:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- IF the product is notable in this context, it might be worth providing a link to the YATE site for the convenience of our readers. If it's not notable, it doesn't deserve a link. What is mysterious about that? EdJohnston 16:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ugh, this does not answer my question actually. Magazine article would establish notability, wouldn't it ? So I follow your logic, it's OK to have a reference to a non-notable subject, but it just won't get a link. This is not how Notability policy works in WP. Alex Pankratov 16:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- If a computer magazine had written about an actual person or company using YATE as an IAX server, that article would be referenceable. Existence of such a third-party reference could make YATE significant enough to justify an external link to their website. Once it is found that the IAX article needs to have a section discussing various providers of server software. EdJohnston 16:24, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Can you please elaborate why the reference itself is justified, but the link is not ? If Yate is not notable (though from a casual glance it appears to be), it should be removed altogether. Thanks. Alex Pankratov 16:09, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- I read Talk:Inter-Asterisk eXchange on the subject of YATE, to learn about the issue. Then I turned to the article itself to see if it mentioned YATE in its text. It did not do so. It doesn't say that you could use YATE as a server, or say why you would want to. I'd expect to see at least one report by an actual third party that had used YATE as an IAX server, in other words, a source proving the significance of YATE that could be included as a reference in the IAX article. The YATE site says little about IAX; IAX is just one of the protocols that YATE claims to support. The site also has some cookbook instructions for how to set it up as an IAX server. If you want to learn anything at all about IAX from that site, you'd be disappointed. The connection, and the relevance, seems very thin. If reliable material were added to the article text, it could make a difference. As of now I don't see the link to be justified. EdJohnston 15:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- As per this edit you don't seem to have a problem with referencing Yate in the article. So I am not sure why exactly you decided to initiate this complaint to begin with. The core of the matter that led to 3RR was a presence of EL in the reference. I have justified my edit, and you produced an superficial argument of "not a collection of links" that is completely irrelevant in the context. Alex Pankratov 15:25, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- User:Diana cionoiu openly solicited links on Talk:Inter-Asterisk eXchange to her project's webpage and Alex Pankratov responded (inline comments on article talk page). His edits did not happen independent of Diana's action or request. She then proceeded to specifically solicit Alex Pankratov to add additional links on his talk page.
- As I see the article and the section "Products Using IAX", I would suggest to remove that section altogether, or a total rewrite of that section. The article should tell what IAX is, how it works, why it is useful, etc. There is no need for a list of products using IAX (such lists quickly appear spammy), except if it is a notable use (but then it needs a rewrite, the section should then tell why it is notable that this product uses IAX). --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think it is a great advice. However having thought about it a bit, I can see one problem with it. If I am browsing IAX article, it is only natural for me to wonder what software supports it. Unlike more common protocols (like, say, TCP or FTP), IAX is more exotic, so the software list is not voluminous and it is practical to have. Though I am not sure how that would go with "not a directory" policy. Alex Pankratov 16:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- I also agree that this is great advice. Lists such as these tend to attract spam as you stated, especially when users see a competitor listed and naturally feel their website, article or project should also. I would support this 100%. Calltech 16:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- The reason why i've added Yate there was because the article himself seems to be more or less advertising for Asterisk. Since like Alex Pankratov said IAX is a exotic protocol, and there are only 2 server implementation for it (one from Asterisk and one from Yate), i was considered that as a relevant information. Diana cionoiu 15:36, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- I am not sure if that is the function of the wikipedia, 'providing lists of software that support a certain protocol', but a rewrite where notable cases of support of that protocol does, to a certain extend, satisfy that need (e.g. the first case of support, or a support which makes the space shuttle land safely ..(as you may see, I am not really familiar with the protocol)). If the support is trivial, it is not needed to be named, if it is not trivial, it can be explained why it is not trivial, and be independently referenced. Hope this helps. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:50, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Looks like User:Ronz has removed the lists from the article which I believe is to our mutual satisfaction. Thanks all for your contributions and comments. Calltech 17:22, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ack ack. Thanks, everyone. Alex Pankratov 17:26, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
Polish city spam
- Sites spammed
- wroclaw-online.eu: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- warsaw-online.eu: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- poznan-online.net: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- cracowonline.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- gdansk-online.eu: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- zakopane-online.eu: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- allkrakowhotels.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- krakaddict.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- torunonline.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- hotelewkrakowie.pl: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- krakowlife.pl: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- hotelewtoruniu.pl: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- hotele-warszawa.eu: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- noclegi-wroclaw.pl: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- hotelewgdansku.eu: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- zakopane-noclegi.eu: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- 83.238.123.3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- See also x-wiki.
- 213.134.160.234 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- See also x-wiki.
- 213.134.160.229 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- See also x-wiki.
- 83.29.135.152 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) NEW
There's interwiki spam too with 13 + 12 + 13 + 32 + 9 + 10 + 2 + 0 + 12 + 0 + 3 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 106 spam links on other projects respectively, which hasn't been dealt with yet. Recommended urgent blacklisting of the lot. MER-C 14:44, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
Still spamming. Hurry up and blacklist. MER-C 13:44, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
daz.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- 62.194.56.242 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- Joyce oe (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
MER-C 14:13, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- Still spamming.[6] --A. B. (talk) 00:03, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.godaddy.co.in http://spam.ezodiac.info
godaddy.co.in: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
ezodiac.info: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- 122.164.130.190 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
MER-C 14:18, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
Adsense pub-0859283321910528
- serioussoft.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spam sock accounts
Ghoneim (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
82.201.199.172 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
--Hu12 17:03, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.greatmanagement.org http://spam.andrewrondeau.co.uk http://spam.acceleratedmanagementsystem.co.uk
- greatmanagement.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- andrewrondeau.co.uk: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- acceleratedmanagementsystem.co.uk: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spam sock accounts
Greatmanagement (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
--Hu12 17:07, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
- opticien-lentilles.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Jjean3 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 25 Jan 07 through 19 Feb 07 - has a coi with the link
- 90.11.17.225 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 8 Dec 06
- 90.16.56.209 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 11 Aug 07
- 90.30.155.22 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 19 & 20 Feb 07
- 90.30.159.236 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 28 Apr 07
- 90.38.130.87 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) 11 Aug 07
- I thought this was resolved, but the link just showed up again. I'm guessing this is the same person on a dynamic ip. I don't think any other action is necessary, though feel free to review & comment. --Ronz 02:39, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
drug3k.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- 219.238.239.158 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 147.52.151.2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 160.94.148.235 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 152.3.200.168 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 221.252.151.92 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 202.108.60.53 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 129.170.61.29 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 89.136.113.134 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
Several different IPs adding the same spam over 15 minutes or so. MER-C 11:36, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
- On a variety of different continents, too, making proxitude a likely explanation. Listed at WP:OP. MER-C 09:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
kissmyarse.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammer
172.189.36.34 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Videmus Omnia (talk • contribs)
Timestamp for archiving. MER-C 13:24, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Adsense pub-7318232893479089
- jtchandler.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spam sock accounts
67.174.191.126 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
--Hu12 15:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
desicelebsworld.blogspot.com and related
Adsense pub-9403840580672510 and pub-9947708440066083 The following URLs are related through registration details, blog oster IDs, google ad IDs and the WP accounts adding them as links:
- desicelebsworld.blogspot.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- desibabesandhunks.blogspot.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- dishtvindia.info: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- jodhaaakbar.info: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
Found users adding the links:
- Bollywoodguru (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 61.17.162.169 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Nadeem078 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 61.17.162.152 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Macchar (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (from Veinor's Feb 25, 2007 archive.)
-- SiobhanHansa 15:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Stickymap.com, yet another googlemaps hack
- stickymap.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- 66.234.56.131 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 38.117.159.162 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
-- ccwaters 18:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
- Still spamming.
- I also turned up the following old IPs:
- 66.108.220.100 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 67.86.127.250 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- Also this article creation request:
- --A. B. (talk) 21:29, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Still spamming today as well as erasing content from this page.[7]
- Blacklisting requested:
- meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#stickymap.com (permanent link)
- --A. B. (talk) 17:48, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- Blacklisting requested:
- See this exchange with one of the site's founders:
- --A. B. (talk) 01:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
biblewalks.com is back
I hadn't checked on this in a while and found it had found its way in to numerous articles again - again from single purpose accounts. There are 3 good faith occurrences on article pages that I have left.
biblewalks.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
Accounts apparently focused only on promoting biblewalks.com:
- Biblewalks (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 84.94.96.134 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 80.179.36.32 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Oderi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Fiji300 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Amit300 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Spam blacklist request (permanent link). -- SiobhanHansa 19:59, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Kellen Interactive was back
Kellen Interactive is a marketing company that represents a lot of trade groups. They Spammed a bunch of sites up through October 2006, but stopped after we stamped down. They appear to have come back in May this year. Another of my marks I haven't checked up on in a while. Guess I need to remember to stay on top.... previous accounts:
- 71.204.14.32 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 216.91.92.18 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (This IP is actually registered to Kellen!)
Accounts spamming in May:
- Tracigibson (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 121.44.62.147 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) (only one link)
Sites spammed in May:
- horseradish.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- dressings-sauces.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- crazyforcondiments.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- saladaday.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- fructose.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
See My report page for more details.
Please keep an eye out for similar sites on food related articles (there appear to be dozens). They tend to be fairly similar, generally fluffy and lacking any in depth or serious treatment (though they may make scientific claims), and often say "hosted by Kellen" or give a Kellen address for contacting on the website. They generally, though not always, use a .org top level domain. -- SiobhanHansa 22:15, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
http:// spam.self-publishing-guide.blogspot.com
Adsense pub-9359192521245996
- self-publishing-guide.blogspot.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spam sock accounts
121.97.73.106 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
124.6.162.174 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
222.127.228.8 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
222.127.54.154 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
--Hu12 03:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Inappropriate Nikitin links on Wikipedia
Accounts:
- 194.126.101.137 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 194.126.101.138 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- Movable (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • count • COIBot • noticeboards • user page logs • x-wiki • status • LinkWatcher search • Google)
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- 213.35.249.197 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 213.35.167.41 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 217.159.133.183 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 84.50.118.132 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
- 89.219.12.98 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
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- fineroof.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- freemobilefun.net: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- hairremovalarea.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- hosearea.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- insulationhelp.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- ledplace.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
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- movable-wall.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- nicebath.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- playground-world.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- roomflooring.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- thebestinsulation.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- titaniumarea.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- weldingarea.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
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- allmyringtones.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.allphonegames.com
- allphonegames.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.architectspot.com
- architectspot.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.arturnikitin.com
- arturnikitin.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.bargainhammocks.com
- bargainhammocks.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.benedict-xvi-pope.com
- benedict-xvi-pope.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.best-mortgage-quotes.com
- best-mortgage-quotes.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.best-sex-enhancers.com
- best-sex-enhancers.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.best-sunless-tanning.com
- best-sunless-tanning.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.bobbleheadfinder.com
- bobbleheadfinder.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.breast-enhancement-help.com
- breast-enhancement-help.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.buy-cruise.com
- buy-cruise.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.cell-phone-wallpapers.com
- cell-phone-wallpapers.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.cellularservicehelp.com
- cellularservicehelp.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.cheap-playstation.com
- cheap-playstation.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.cheap-x-box.com
- cheap-x-box.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.closet-world.com
- closet-world.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.eroticsexylingerie.com
- eroticsexylingerie.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.findfurnace.com
- findfurnace.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.freecurrencycalculator.com
- freecurrencycalculator.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.freedesktopfun.com
- freedesktopfun.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.get-degree-online.com
- get-degree-online.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.get-fast-money.com
- get-fast-money.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.getaircompressors.com
- getaircompressors.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.gypsumus.com
- gypsumus.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.hairextensionhelp.com
- hairextensionhelp.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.hybridcartoday.com
- hybridcartoday.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.kitchen-remodeling-help.com
- kitchen-remodeling-help.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.lastcasket.com
- lastcasket.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.letmeconvert.com
- letmeconvert.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.mylogoland.com
- mylogoland.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.mytinybaby.com
- mytinybaby.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.mytinyphone.com
- mytinyphone.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.mywifiphones.com
- mywifiphones.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.online-auto-quotes.com
- online-auto-quotes.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.online-car-quotes.com
- online-car-quotes.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.order-drugs-online.com
- order-drugs-online.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.phone-screensavers.com
- phone-screensavers.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.poolsarea.com
- poolsarea.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.rastagear.com
- rastagear.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.realfiberglass.com
- realfiberglass.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.realtruetones.com
- realtruetones.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.recreational-vehicles-insurance.com
- recreational-vehicles-insurance.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.seektires.com
- seektires.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.skinarea.com
- skinarea.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.stressrelievertools.com
- stressrelievertools.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.thecladdaghrings.com
- thecladdaghrings.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.videoclipcards.com
- videoclipcards.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- http://www.window-tinting-info.com
- window-tinting-info.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
Possibly related domain:
- http://www.pspwallpapers4free.com
- pspwallpapers4free.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
Reference:
- meta:Talk:Spam blacklist#Nikitin links (permanent link)
Google AdSense IDs:
- 2771851870241257
- 7224921763188178
- 7770913157352696
- 7857615299922439
- 7930229314295430
--A. B. (talk) 03:55, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- explorepda.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spam sock accounts
59.92.87.31 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.37.90 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.35.9 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.36.39 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.47.33 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
Explorepda (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)<br--Hu12 07:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
(pulled from archive)
Adsense pub-6385036138714482
- e-articles.info: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
Googleboy.live (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)--Hu12 05:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- I saw an edit to one of the articles that I am watching as it seems to be a spam magnet. I checked the external links and saw three articles on the site e-articles.info. Some digging gives a handful of single-purpose accounts:
- 89.123.64.83 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) (89.123.0.0/16 - Romtelecom Data Network, RO)
- 80.97.106.69 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) (80.97.106.0/23 - National Radiocommunication Company, Bucharest 70060, Romania, RO)
- 207.234.184.80 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) (207.234.128.0/17 Affinity Internet, Inc -> 207.234.181.0/24, 207.234.182.0/23, 207.234.184.0/24 - Affinity Internet, Inc, Ft. Lauderdale, FL, US)
- Some of the links seem good as a reference, but are 'spammed' to external links sections. --Dirk Beetstra T C 11:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.medicineonline.com http://spam.1artclub.com
medicineonline.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
1artclub.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- Alphabeta123 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Samsubhash (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
MER-C 12:43, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
baor-locations.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- 172.174.234.30 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 172.179.131.219 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
MER-C 13:06, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
hatingautism.blogspot.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- Bettwice33 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- 71.168.113.55 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
MER-C 13:12, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
toazted.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
toazted.nl: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- 81.206.196.106 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- Buffelkut (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
- Death.by.maggots (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
MER-C 13:49, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
User:Diggernet / http://spam.ifiction.org
Please take a look at the contributions of User:Diggernet [8] (who appears to be the owner of the linked site). There's also Google-ads. I'd say it's spam. 84.129.132.251 15:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Adsense pub-8738641863212993
- ifiction.org: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Adsense pub-8738641863212993
- Spam sock accounts
- Spam sock accounts
- Diggernet (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
84.171.248.61 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) Cross wiki IP [9]
--Hu12 16:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, User:Diggernet owns ifiction.org and was aware of the policies of WP:SPAM and WP:COI, and apears to have added all but one of the links after being advised. see Wikipedia:Editor_assistance/Requests/Archive_4#Need_advice_on_external_links_with_potential_COI_issue. Seems there ia also a template in the works, [10]--Hu12 16:38, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
In the discussion at Editor assistance no one suggested that Diggernet's additions would be spam ("WP:SPAM should only refer to sites that are only vaguely concerned with the article, paysites, or particular lines of opinion which promote illegal activity.") or a conflict of interest ("In real terms, conflict of interest is only of concern if an editor is pushing unverifiable material in an article or excluding controversial material."). Diggernet's edits deserve the assumption of good faith and should be judged on their value to the article, nothing more. Free online access to the games is meaningful, relevant content that cannot be integrated into Wikipedia. This would be similar to if a notable book or movie is available online, it should be linked (e.g. Moby-Dick). These are great additions in the external links and should remain. I've begun restoring them. — Alan De Smet | Talk 18:13, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- To be clear, adding a bunch of links to your own site is suspicious and worthy of investigation. In this case I think Diggernet's was just overzealous. However, as someone knowledgable about interactive fiction, and who watches many of these articles, I believe the links to be valuable additions. The articles are better with the links that without. — Alan De Smet | Talk 18:34, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- This problem seems to be three fold. Fist and most obvious is WP:SPAM, second is WP:NOT, and last is Advertising and conflicts of interest(WP:EL). Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. External links policy on Advertising and conflicts of interest states You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. In this case, User:Diggernet is the owner of ifiction.org. which is a conflict of interest.
“ | I own iFiction.org.... | ” |
— Diggernet 02:18, 21 July 2007 |
- Unfortunately this type conflict of interest editing involves contributing to Wikipedia in order to promote ifiction.org (obvious). Such a conflict is strongly discouraged. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a link farm. The contributions to wikipedia by Diggernet consist entirely of adding external links to ifiction.org and is considered WP:Spam. Wikipedia is NOT a "repository of links" or a "vehicle for advertising". Hopefully this helps clear up the policy issues. I have reverted the reinsertions per WP:NOT, untill discussion or appropriate concensus on policy is reached.--Hu12 18:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think Hu12 summed up the guidelines well, but I also think Alan's point about the advice Diggernet received is valid. When I read that thread I think he got poor advice that encouraged him to go ahead and add links to his site. In this case it may be much more productive to write him a message that apologizes for him receiving poor advise on that forum after he specifically asked if adding links was OK and then highlights the appropriate way for him to suggest his site on other articles' talk pages. Before this he was an occasional editor on apparently non-COI stuff (the site additions all happened in very short time frame, though they are the vast majority of edits). Stepping back from our templates and taking a more bespoke approach to this case, one that takes into account the backstory, could keep him as an occasional editor - and well disposed to WP. After all, if all he does is maintain the links to his site that other non-COI editors have added, he's still doing something that is of benefit to our readers. Plus, it could stop us all spending our time on some huge back and forth. -- SiobhanHansa 19:07, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- (I've now done as I suggested [11]) -- SiobhanHansa 19:21, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- WP:SPAM is a judgement call, ultimately hinging on "Adding external links to an article or user page for the purpose of promoting a website or a product is not allowed, and is considered to be spam." Is Diggernet's goal to promote his website or to add useful content? Regrettably we cannot know. We need to assume good faith in our consideration.
- WP:NOT is irrelevant. The links are not just a bunch of on-topic links. The actual games under discussion are "Sites with other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article" (What should be linked). As noted above, linking to the actual item the article is about highly meaningful, relevant, and not suitable for inclusion. They are not less appropriate than the many links at Moby-Dick or the link to Google Video at Steal This Movie!.
- Regarding WP:COI, Diggernet has not attempted to influence the facts and claims of an article. There are no claims of misrepresentation or a adding bias. The only thing you can claim is potentially self-promotion, which is pretty much identical to accusing hi m of spamming. Again, it's a judgement call.
- On the subject of accussations, you claim "the contributions to wikipedia under Diggernet consist entirely of adding external links to ifiction.org". That's a very serious accusation. It's also incorrect. Check Special:Contributions/Diggernet again. Diggernet made about 31 contributions between August 17 2006 and July 19 2007, of which none appear to include adding external links to his sites. Please be more careful before making such statements; it could easily be perceived as a personal attack.
- Per WP:EL#Advertising_and_conflicts_of_interest, true, Diggernet probably shouldn't have added the links. But it's a guideline, not a hard and fast rule. The links deserve more careful consideration than bulk deletion. As WP:EL notes, "If the link is to a relevant and informative site that should otherwise be included, please consider mentioning it on the talk page and let neutral and independent Wikipedia editors decide whether to add it" I'm a neutral and independent editor (I don't know Diggernet, nor am I involved in his web site. I believe the links should be added. Maybe the procedure in the guidelines wasn't followed, but ultimately we need to go back to the first rule to consider: ignore all rules. "Don't follow written instructions mindlessly, but rather, consider how the encyclopedia is improved or damaged by each edit."(here) Do Diggernet's edits improve or damage the articles they were added to?" If they improve the articles, they should stay. I thought adding such a link would improve Zork I, so I added such a link several months before Diggernet got involved. Apparently KingTT and [Briangotts] agree. Diggernet might need a warning to be follow the guidelines about linking to his own sites, but bulk deletion of those links hurts those articles more than it helps. — Alan De Smet | Talk 19:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not being mindless in approving of Hu12 removing the links. In terms of approving of the edits - any content should be considered in the context of each article. We should not have a blanket "it's good content so its OK where ever it's put" rule. Allowing links that are mass added to stay unhindered does two bad things for Wikipedia - it leaves in content that has not been considered from an NPOV perspective, where there is good reason to consider it to be a POV edit (not just that it's a link to the editors' site, but also that the site has been mass added to lots of articles). And it also encourages people to game the system. Having a response system that does not default back to the pre-promoted state will leave us with thousands of spam links that we can't remove because there aren't enough people able to evaluate them in context. Content should have a reason for inclusion, it shouldn't be there by default. External links are the least valuable content that can be added. If it's a truly useful link, another editor can add it. Articles don't have to be finished today. -- SiobhanHansa 19:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- You've helped me realize why this is tweaking me. I watch about half of the articles that Diggernet added his links to. At the time he added them, I noticed the pattern of bulk addition and investigated some. I decided the links were good additions and left them be. Unfortunately there really isn't a way to say that a link was left after secondary review, and not because it's been overlooked. At the time he added them, I checked the links on the pages I watched (About 10 of the 40). When I reverted Hu12, I checked a subset (again, about 10, probably heavily overlapping with my previous review). :::::Ultimately I am, I hope, "another editor" and am free to add them again. Given the situation I'll check every single link before I add it, not just reverting the last version back in. That is, I'll check the page on ifiction.org, and confirm that it is a as claimed, is suitable and is a valuable addition to the article. Will that be acceptable, or will it be viewed as simple re-adding the spam and just get reverted again? (Note, any such edits on my part are not imminent; I expect to be away from Wikipedia for a week or so. Today's a day off before things get very busy.) — Alan De Smet | Talk 20:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- That is a bit of a glitch in the process. I'm not sure of a good way to reconcile that. For my part, if a regular editor of an article adds a link back because they think its appropriate I wouldn't revert as spam. I don't see that as part of the function of this WikiProject. -- SiobhanHansa 13:50, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- I do want to say, thank you Hu12 and SiobhanHansa for your anti-spam work. I do appreciate the problems with wikispam. I hate it and strive to quickly expunge it when it shows up in the articles I'm watching. I appreciate the time you're taking in this easy to overlook but very valuable service. I have the utmost respect for your work. — Alan De Smet | Talk 20:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- You've helped me realize why this is tweaking me. I watch about half of the articles that Diggernet added his links to. At the time he added them, I noticed the pattern of bulk addition and investigated some. I decided the links were good additions and left them be. Unfortunately there really isn't a way to say that a link was left after secondary review, and not because it's been overlooked. At the time he added them, I checked the links on the pages I watched (About 10 of the 40). When I reverted Hu12, I checked a subset (again, about 10, probably heavily overlapping with my previous review). :::::Ultimately I am, I hope, "another editor" and am free to add them again. Given the situation I'll check every single link before I add it, not just reverting the last version back in. That is, I'll check the page on ifiction.org, and confirm that it is a as claimed, is suitable and is a valuable addition to the article. Will that be acceptable, or will it be viewed as simple re-adding the spam and just get reverted again? (Note, any such edits on my part are not imminent; I expect to be away from Wikipedia for a week or so. Today's a day off before things get very busy.) — Alan De Smet | Talk 20:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not being mindless in approving of Hu12 removing the links. In terms of approving of the edits - any content should be considered in the context of each article. We should not have a blanket "it's good content so its OK where ever it's put" rule. Allowing links that are mass added to stay unhindered does two bad things for Wikipedia - it leaves in content that has not been considered from an NPOV perspective, where there is good reason to consider it to be a POV edit (not just that it's a link to the editors' site, but also that the site has been mass added to lots of articles). And it also encourages people to game the system. Having a response system that does not default back to the pre-promoted state will leave us with thousands of spam links that we can't remove because there aren't enough people able to evaluate them in context. Content should have a reason for inclusion, it shouldn't be there by default. External links are the least valuable content that can be added. If it's a truly useful link, another editor can add it. Articles don't have to be finished today. -- SiobhanHansa 19:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Okay, if you want my opinion, I can see why linking to Project Gutenberg's full content of "Moby Dick" might be essential to the understanding of the book, and thus of the article. You can't understand a book without reading it, same as you can't understand interactive fiction without playing it. But the analogy ends here.
I can play these games without iFiction.org. It's not an essential resource. It's an external web service that lets you play online instead of on your own machine. Usually there's already a link to Baf's Guide in the articles. Most games that are free to download are available from there. (Unless I missed some download links, iFiction.org is a pure "service", not a "resource", for that matter). What is more, Baf's already gives links to iFiction.org too! I have no doubts that these links were added in good faith to the articles, but I don't understand how they would be "valuable additions" that improve the content of an online-encyclopedia. 84.129.132.251 20:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
- Wikipedia could just as easily say, "Moby-Dick is widely available in public libraries, so go look there." Online copies are hardly an essential resource for the novel. But it's possible get Moby-Dick online, and it's certainly more convenient. The same goes for ifiction. It allows a reader to consult the source material immediately with almost any web browser. It is the easiest route I'm aware of to directly connect a Wikipedia reader to the source material being discussed. That is valuable. This is similiar to how the article Steal This Film includes a link to the "official" source (A torrent at the Pirate Bay), but also includes a link to Google Video which is more convenient for many visitors. The Google Video link is not essential, but is valuable. As for the Baf's Guide link, a new reader is unlikely to see one of the Baf's Guide links and conclude that it's the quickest way to see the source material. — Alan De Smet | Talk 21:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Well, this was quite a surprise to stumble across. Isn't there some mechanism for auto-notifying when your user or talk page is tagged for something negative? Hopefully, the participants in this conversation haven't all moved on by now.
I appreciate the efforts of Alan and SiobhanHansa to take the time to read and understand the discussion at WP:EA and speak in my defense, and especially for being so kind as to actually let me know this conversation was taking place and where. Good faith demands I assume Hu12 would have contacted me directly, as recommended in WP:COI, had my 'E-mail this user' setting been on (didn't realize it was off, fixed now, sorry), but a little more effort than simply tagging me as a vandal would have been nice.
- "There's also Google-ads"
- Yeah. I added those a couple of months ago in the hope that the site might pay for its own hosting. It doesn't, but it helps some. Please forgive my limited budget.
- "appears to have added all but one of the links after being advised"
- After being advised that it was OK. And I actually added all the links after that advice. I am not 84.171.248.61.
- "there is also a template in the works"
- I was considering a template to simplify maintenance and make the link text uniform. Following the advice from WP:EA, I abandoned the idea and pasted the code into my sandbox to save what I had learned for future reference on template design.
- "The contributions to wikipedia by Diggernet consist entirely of adding external links to ifiction.org"
- Utter hogwash! I have contributed to a variety of articles in the year since I created my account here, and more anonymously before that. Once cannot possibly imagine that my history is accurately represented by 40 edits in one two-day period. "vast majority of edits"? Slightly over half.
Before asking my question at WP:EA, I read many relevant articles, including WP:SPAM, WP:COI, WP:NOT, WP:EL, and a number of others that I do not recall. Do I have a conflict of interest? Certainly. Somewhere in one of the articles, I remember reading a comment to the effect that such conflicts are common among people with enough involvement in a topic to be able to contribute about it, but that simply having a conflict is not a problem. The real concern is how the conflict is handled. Wise words.
After all that reading, my conclusion was that a link from an existing article about a game directly into that specific game is reasonable, as it shows the reader exactly what the article is discussing in a way that cannot be included in the article. But I also recognized that it was a close decision, and one that I, as the conflicted party, should not make. So I decided to submit my plans to WP:EA, starting with a statement of my conflict, and abide by their decision. And did so.
All that said, I'm not here to start a fight. I had an idea I thought would be a useful addition, and took great care to confirm that it was acceptable before taking any action on it. If WikiProject Spam believes my edits are unacceptable due to my conflict of interest, I'm not going to waste time trying to convince them otherwise, because it's just not that important. I'm fine with dropping the idea and leaving it up to other editors, as I would have done had I received a different answer from WP:EA.
Now could someone please fix my talk page so that it no longer slanders me as a spamming sock puppet? I'm inclined to simply delete the whole thing, but I clearly have a conflict of interest...
Thanks for listening. Diggernet 22:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Spammer:
- 72.200.77.1 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
Reported by Videmus Omnia Talk 18:05, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Done user has been blocked for spamming after final warning--Hu12 18:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Inappropriate Norquay links on Wikipedia
Registered to Norquay in Sydney, Australia. Only warned once before.
Accounts:
- 59.167.28.139 (talk • contribs • deleted contribs • what links to user page • COIBot • count • block log • x-wiki • noticeboards • LinkWatcher search || WHOIS • RDNS • traceroute • CompleteWhois • ippages.com • robtex.com • tor • Google)
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--A. B. (talk) 20:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Article National Comprehensive Cancer Network
→ See also: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/National_Comprehensive_Cancer_Network
→ See also: Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard/Archive_15#National_Comprehensive_Cancer_Network
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- Spam sock accounts
B1402cp (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Tvawter (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
63.86.251.252 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
68.166.65.229 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
--Hu12 21:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
See Who's Editing Wikipedia
Wikipedia:Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard#Helpful_web_application:_Wikiscanner
Saw this posted over on the COI noticeboard by David Fuchs. This Wired News article profiles a Wiki Tracker that searches for companies and their ip addresses, and shows what they've been editing.
http://wikiscanner.virgil.gr/
More tools for the box --Hu12 05:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Spam sock accounts
Tracey guilliattparks (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
84.159.81.236 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
91.125.220.36 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
--Hu12 10:02, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.netforu.org http:// spam.visaforu.com
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This is a low content site that has been repeatedly added to Visa (document), the IP users have a habit of removing content from the article and modifying or deleting other users discussion page comments if said comments reflect negatively on the inclusion of their site..
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- Aysha2k6 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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- 59.92.83.207 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 59.92.25.6 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log) and many other IP's in this range.. --Versageek 13:06, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Spam sock accounts
Visaforu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
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59.92.3.8 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.54.50 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.64.28 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.57.22 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.44.62 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.35.0 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
59.92.49.237 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)cross wiki spam IP
59.92.86.109 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
--Hu12 10:14, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
- FYI, 59.92.86.109 tried to delete both the WPSPAM entry here[13] and the COIbot report.[14] --A. B. (talk) 00:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- And 59.92.71.110 also tried to blank the user talk page here[15] -- zzuuzz (talk) 00:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
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Jayhands (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
--Hu12 10:47, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
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Kid291uk (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Kid1983uk (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Sebvan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Agentpanda (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
59.154.61.35 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
--Hu12 20:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Spam sock accounts
Jlglex (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
65.96.76.23 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
spams paragraphs with links--Hu12 23:56, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
Another librarian. See here for previous library/archive discussions (nothing has been resolved as of yet regarding this type of thing).
- Richardaedwards (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Katr67 20:54, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Lets monitor. --Dirk Beetstra T C 21:07, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Broader implications of librarians' linking campaigns
I suggest taking this whole topic to a broader audience such as the administrators' noticeboard and/or the village pump and/or the discussion pages for one of the relevant guidelines (WP:COI, WP:EL, WP:SPAM). From looking at the prior discussion (Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spam/2007 Archive Jul#Library links discussions) it looks like this is an issue that will only grow and fester until the broader community reaches some consensus. I'm biased towards being fairly receptive to these links submitted from librarians, but I see several problems from prior link cleanup:
- If every librarian gets in on the act, they will create spam holes that attract real spam. The spam hole phenomenon is very real and we see it every day. Our Great Depression article just can't sustain links to the Depression-era collections of every university, museum and historical society in the English-speaking world.
- Frequently these links refer to the existence of some document while not providing much actual content -- just a sort of indexing page. I saw that with many of the links cleaned out of the Appalachia article earlier this year.
- Sometimes, librarians link to a nice university page that goes into way too much detail; one (fictitious) example would be a page about "Hybrid crabapple trees in Tasmania" linked from the main Tasmania article.
- Alternately, they may link to something too shallow; for example, a page about "World War II in the Pacific" linked from our Battle of Midway article.
I noted some of the librarians that posted in the previous discussion were dismissive towards regular Wikipedia editors. Wikipedia can really use the expertise of good professional librarians helping here, but from the sorts of thing I've seen, there remains confusion about what we do and how we do it. Some librarians may be confusing us with DMOZ, WikiSource or Commons.
Librarians, as well, really are people, too, and they can get just as excited and enthusiastic about what they've got as anyone else. Promoting their collections may interfere with our goals even if when not motivated by greed.
Perhaps a working group of librarians and editors could start by putting together an essay on the topic.--A. B. (talk) 21:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- Some other editor communities that may have some insights:
- These projects don't exactly deal with the issue we're discussing, but they likely draw some editors that are librarians or otherwise have some insights on this issue. --A. B. (talk) 21:53, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- I'd just like to point out that, in my opinion, it's not necessarily the links themselves that are a problem, but the way they are being added to articles as a sort of "campaign" as A.B. calls it. In the above case, I especially object to the phrase "Available online through the Washington State Library's Classics in Washington History collection", which seems unnecessarily like an ad for that library's services. I actually used one of the previously discussed links as a citation recently, however. I do think people mean well, but we need to reach consensus on this matter. Katr67 22:18, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
These discussions (as many discussions here) often become heated, with arguments like 'but we have information that wikipedia does not have', and 'we link to reliable, on topic, information'. So I just want to say here: we do want the links. Really! But we are more interested in the information that can be provided. And what we want even more, is the information, with the link as a reference. Because a link without the information is just a tunnel away from this encyclopedia, which does not necessarily improve the article where the link is on. As said, it tunnels to the site, people do not stay on the Wikipedia article, and may not return unless they use the back-button. IMHO, the wikipedia article should be totally stand-alone, containing all the information that one could possibly want (or on more wikipedia articles linked together) with references to reliable sources (as many libraries and other archives are!) which back up that information. And I do understand, there are some things that simply can not be incorporated, but that is not very often the case! And I also do understand that people do not always have time to edit articles, but if one has time to add 10 external links to 10 articles, one also has time to add 2 sentences of information and 1 reference to one article, both should take about 5 minutes.
In that process of adding links, it is best not to set of our spam radar, or our conflict of interest radar. Concerning these 'spam' or 'conflicts of interest', indeed, many of these organisations are not commercial, they do not actively sell something. Still (and I know that what I suggest here is in violation of 'assume good faith'), the efficiency of the organisation is often measured by the number of visitors (which may for higher organisations be a measure for the influx of money to the library/archive; such organisations still do need the money to pay their employees, the building and the heating). Though the linkadditions are meant to improve the Wikipedia, in that process people are invited to visit the linked site, and I think it is in both our interest to try and avoid such implications (even if they are totally untrue and not meant that way). --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:54, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Good points have been raised and I've been thinking about the issues and discussing it with other librarians. I'd be glad to participate in any working group that might be formed. Let me ask your opinion about some potential options:
As one example, my original citation was:
- Mitchell, Samuel Augustus (1846). Accompaniment to Mitchell's New map of Texas, Oregon, and California, with the regions adjoining. S. Augustus Mitchell.Available online through the Washington State Library's Classics in Washington History collection
I wanted to use a template to try and abide by Wikipedia's standards. I used the fields in the {cite book} template that seemed most appropriate to share information researchers need to make informed decisions about the value of the resource, including author, title, publisher and date. And of course a link to the actual digital edition (not to the library home page, but the actual document being cited). In adding that link, it made sense to me at the time to add our library name and collection as the source of that digital edition.
The changes made to remove the "spam" from the Oregon article resulted in this citation:
As a librarian and educator, I think it's important to include further citation information, both so that the work can be correctly attributed and so that a researcher looking at the entry can decide whether the link is worth pursuing. The date can imply primary or secondary sources, and even the publisher information can show a point of view (our example book is self-published, for example).
Adding an entry for the library is a way of showing the authenticity and value of the selected source as the publisher of the digital version. If the Washington State Library includes a title in its Classics in Washington History Collection, then a researcher might assume that the work is indeed recognized as important and respected material on topics related to the Pacific Northwest.
The use of the Library name also appear in OCLC cataloging records which are created according to professional library standards. The catalog entry for our digitial version of this book includes a MARC 710 field (Added Entry–Corporate Name) due to the Washington State Library's creation and publication of this digitized edition.
If you search OCLC's Worldcat you will see the Library mentioned in several Notes, and "Washington State Library. Classics in Washington History" appears at the top next to the author as a link. Clicking on that link brings up the entire list of books digitized by our library for that collection.
The Library's name is not just "advertising" but rather is part of the information about this particular edition. That's why it's been included in the catalog record and why I think it should be included in the citation in Wikipedia.
I think it's also important to use a citation template to try and standardize the information and formatting used for Wikipedia entries. So I've taken a deeper look at the cite book template and how the fields from the MARC records might best be matched.
So how about this option where the library, as creator and publisher of the digital version, is listed in the template's OTHERS field:
- Mitchell, Samuel Augustus (1846). Accompaniment to Mitchell's New map of Texas, Oregon, and California, with the regions adjoining (DJVU). Washington State Library's Classics in Washington History collection. S. Augustus Mitchell. OCLC 55035028.
Does this format make sense? Other suggestions? Richardaedwards 16:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
Adsense pub-0369818056753427
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- Spam sock accounts
Plagiarismarchive (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
--Hu12 12:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
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- Spam sock accounts
212.13.254.2 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
--Hu12 12:55, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
http://spam.myperpignan.com http://spam.perpignanfr.com
myperpignan.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
perpignanfr.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
- Spammers
- 90.28.24.214 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.28.16.17 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.28.148.210 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 83.113.24.81 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.28.167.245 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.36.128.99 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.36.131.168 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.28.130.208 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.28.13.191 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.28.14.217 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.28.161.246 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.29.193.153 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.27.203.122 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.28.145.157 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.29.58.184 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
- 90.28.160.95 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
There are more, I think. Long term dynamic IP spamming. The local blacklist beckons. MER-C 13:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
Blatant demo spam
Links are added with 'Click to view interactive tour.':
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- dewalt.com: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com (company page, not really 'spam')
Accounts:
- 12.148.189.25 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)
--Dirk Beetstra T C 13:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
User:498a
This is partially a cross posting from WP:COIN:
498a (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) -
User 498a's name is a reference to India's anti-dowry law, section 498a. They are adding links (which break WP:EL because its a link to unverified research and//or a personal site) to an anti-Section 498a site to Bride burning (the subject of which is dowry killing).[16] It is possible that this user is the person behind that site since its name is "www.498a-misuse.sojos.net". The same links were added to Dowry law in India[17], Dowry[18], Human rights in India[19], Non-resident Indian and Person of Indian Origin[20] and Indian penal code[21]
I've already reverted the Bride burning spam--Cailil talk 18:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- 498a-misuse.sojos.net: Linksearch en (insource) - meta - de - fr - simple - wikt:en - wikt:fr • Spamcheck • MER-C X-wiki • gs • Reports: Links on en - COIBot - COIBot-Local • Discussions: tracked - advanced - RSN • COIBot-Link, Local, & XWiki Reports - Wikipedia: en - fr - de • Google: search • meta • Domain: domaintools • AboutUs.com
adding linksearch--Hu12 23:08, 16 August 2007 (UTC)