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Regarding Deletion of My Article

I Wrote an Article on a living Biography of my Mom's. You deleted it. I wanna know exact reasons why it was done. And how can I make a permanent article posted on wikipedia?? Page name Amita Chapra.

The reasons for the deletion can be found at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Amita Chapra (2nd nomination). There is no such thing as a "permanent" article on WIkipedia; any article can be deleted if there is community consensus to do so. Sandstein 19:26, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Biggs jasper

On 25 July 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Biggs jasper, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Biggs jasper is one of the most sought-after extremely siliceous gemstones? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Biggs jasper. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Biggs jasper), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Casliber 00:02, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

"Extremely siliceous gemstone"

Do you have access to the whole source and does it actually says that? I tried to open it: I can only see the first page, but it is written by a competent mineralogist, and it would be surprising if he wrote something as asinine: a rock is either siliceous or it isn't; nothing prevents one from counting silicon atoms but, in view of the ubiquity of quartz, that would be seriously pointless (i.e., 90% of siliceous materials would turn out to be 'extremely' so). complainer 09:40, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

@Complainer: The source describes it thus at p. 61: "The superior quality of this jasper, with its pleasing shades in tan and brown, makes it one of the most sought after of the extremely siliceous stones." I assume that means that the jasper is rare among gemstones in that it is extremely siliceous. I've temporarily made the full source available at https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZrtoSB_4ou7wmg0zv5oU3vhoGrtIMgIo if you want to take a look. Sandstein 10:14, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

I have no reason to doubt your good faith; in my opinion, now the question is a general one, i.e., whether something senseless said by an otherwise reliable source should be reported, verbatim and uncritically, in an article and on the main page of wikipedia. complainer 11:06, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Well, I'm not a mineralogist, so i don't really have an opinion of my own. But generally we report what reliable sources say, to avoid WP:OR. Sandstein 13:32, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but WP:OR would only apply to inserting information, not to expunging; two further factors in this particular case are 1 - the fact that, of several pages of factually correct information, the editors have singled out the one absurd statement, which is unfair to both the source and the readers and 2 - WP:CK complainer 13:40, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

What's absurd about the statement? So I assume there are gemstones who are more siliceous and gemstones who are less siliceous. And this jasper is a kind of gemstone that is very high in silica, that is, extremely siliceous. That seems to make sense. Sandstein 16:30, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

I might have explained it badly, but "siliceous" is not really a matter of degrees: a [gem]stone is either siliceous or it isn't; specifically for jasper, which is basically pure silicon dioxide, saying "extremely siliceous" is exactly the same as saying that water is "extremely aqueous". If I have to give an exact equivalent to the statement, it would be: "S.Pellegrino is one of the most sought after of the extremely aqueous beverages". While the correctness of the statements could be defended on technical grounds, and there certainly is worse on wikipedia, I don't think having this even mix of nonsense and truism on our main page reflects well on wikipedia. Oh well, at least it's now safely confined to an article three people a month will read, if even. complainer 07:51, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Yoshiki Nakajima

Hi there. I noticed that you deleted Yoshiki Nakajima several months ago, as it appeared at the time that he did not meet WP:ENT. Since then, he played the role of Yoshifumi Nitta, the main character of the anime series Hinamatsuri, and also released a single that charted on Oricon, Japan's main music chart. Is it okay with you if I send this to deletion review, to test for consensus on whether or not he now passes the notability guidelines? Thanks. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 00:59, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

You can do what you like, but as far as I know even entertainers need substantial coverage in reliable sources to pass GNG, or "significant roles in multiple notable films", which a single role in an anime probably doesn't qualify for. Sandstein 07:14, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Noted. I've started a discussion at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2018 July 26#Yoshiki Nakajima. Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:42, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Question

I'd like to ask you a favor. Last time when I submitted something to WP:AE you said it did not worth any action. I am sorry for that. Wasting time of other contributors and admins is not my intention. Hence I would like to ask you to look at this and tell if this is something worth reporting at WP:AE. If not, then fine, I do not care. Thank you. My very best wishes (talk) 01:07, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not have the time to look at a bunch of undated and unexplained diffs. Sandstein 07:15, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

I can easily date them, but what exactly needs to be explained? Should it be something about the story, or the history of editing by the contributor? I do not understand. Given that, I would rather not submit the request. Thank you. My very best wishes (talk) 14:59, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

To evaluate a complaint at AE, we ask for an explanation how exactly each diff violates a conduct policy. E.g., "[diff] is a personal attack because the user called me a jerk". Sandstein 15:21, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

OK. So, speaking about such edit, for example... What needs to be clarified here? The user places in the infobox a claim that the poisoning was committed by unknown "Russians" and ...the British government, while sources tell that was done by Russian GRU people [1]. He is promoting a conspiracy theory [2] on WP pages. That user edits only a single page, specifically about this event. He repeatedly removes well sourced info [3] directly relevant to the subject [4]. He edit war to remove such well sourced information from the page: [5],[6],[7],[8]. Does not something like that worth reporting on the WP:AE? My very best wishes (talk) 16:49, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

Edit-warring is sanctionable at AE, but disagreements about content are not. You'd also need to make clear why this is in scope of any discretionary sanctions remedies. Sandstein 17:20, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

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Kunal Kamra

Can I get the copy of the article Kunal Kamra to my userspace? You had deleted this article after the AfD. Accesscrawl (talk) 12:40, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't userfy content, but somebody at WP:REFUND might. Sandstein 12:41, 28 July 2018 (UTC)