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:who is doing joe job here? Am I missing something? --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 15:58, 12 May 2017 (UTC) |
:who is doing joe job here? Am I missing something? --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 15:58, 12 May 2017 (UTC) |
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::The suggestion is that a person or persons unknown might be impersonating Akbaralighazi in order to get them in more trouble. [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] ([[User talk:Boing! said Zebedee|talk]]) 16:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC) |
::The suggestion is that a person or persons unknown might be impersonating Akbaralighazi in order to get them in more trouble. [[User:Boing! said Zebedee|Boing! said Zebedee]] ([[User talk:Boing! said Zebedee|talk]]) 16:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Okay. This is what Akbaralighazi (Rehmat Aziz) told me by email, but I really don't believe it to be true. I wonder why someone would do that. What is the benefit of further impersonating Akbaralighazi when Akbaralighazi's bio page along with several articles related to him are deleted and several socks are blocked. Why not run a CU and identify the accounts run by that impersonator. --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 16:23, 12 May 2017 (UTC) |
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Akbaralighazi
- Akbaralighazi (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
08 May 2017
Suspected sockpuppets
- Rehmat Aziz Chitrali (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Recreation of Rehmat Aziz Chitrali Gold Medalist (one of several variations, like Rehmat Aziz Chitrali etc...) and a direct copy of Rachitrali's userpage = some pretty loud quacking. There's also this on my talk... and now thisCHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 11:33, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
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- This guy is seriously interesting and meanwhile ignorant. Keep on creating socks, autobios and misrepresenting that he's part of WMF staff. @Berean Hunter:. --Saqib (talk) 13:14, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Saqib I almost forgot about that... CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Chrissymad: about what? --Saqib (talk) 13:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Saqib His WMF claim! CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- He has been doing it for quite a time now. see User_talk:Rachitrali. --Saqib (talk) 13:23, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Saqib His WMF claim! CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Chrissymad: about what? --Saqib (talk) 13:20, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Saqib I almost forgot about that... CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 13:18, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Bbb23: This guy (Akbaralighazi/Rehmat Aziz Chitrali, see deleted article Rehmat Aziz Chitrali) is a self-proclaimed language expert, lives in Pakistan, has been socking for years, and shares most of the interests that User:LanguageXpert has shown here, so it might be worth a minute or two to check if there's a connection between them, now that we have fresh edits undisputably made by Chitrali... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 14:39, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- LanguageXpert edits different articles and has a very different style. – Uanfala (talk) 20:14, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- There we go again: Rehmat Aziz Chitrali Gold Medalist (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). – Uanfala (talk) 09:07, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- User:Rachitrali sent me an email and saying that someone is trying to impersonate him by creating usernames related to his name. Does User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali Gold Medalist and User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali are confirmed as sock or not? @Bbb23: --Saqib (talk) 09:11, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- And now there's also Rehmat Aziz (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). – Uanfala (talk) 09:44, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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- Indeffing sock used for block evasion.
— Berean Hunter (talk) 14:31, 8 May 2017 (UTC) - Rehmat Aziz Chitrali is Unrelated to LanguageXpert. The following additional accounts are Confirmed:
- Punjabis (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Kalas wikipedia (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Rimeford (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- U1j2u (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Blocked, tagged, reclosing.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:00, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Re-opened for now. I intend to comment here with more evidence later but have real life issues to get done before I can.
— Berean Hunter (talk) 20:57, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- I see some behavioral and subject-interest links to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Najaf ali bhayo also. DMacks (talk) 02:21, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Najaf ali bhayo has the same interest in Khowar and related languages, but their strong propensity for blatant hoaxing doesn't in my view fit with Rachitrali's good-faith (if sometimes incompetent) editing to these articles. – Uanfala (talk) 08:23, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- On the other hand, Rehmat Aziz Chitrali looks to me like Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Sher Aziz. DMacks (talk) 02:24, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- DMacks is right about this being Najaf. This is not the real Rachitrali. This is a joe job. I indicated a while ago that I knew that Najaf was a catalyst to this case and to a much lesser degree LanguageXpert has been involved. Their socks were active at Commons and elsewhere going after this group. Mostly Najaf. I've been busy and hadn't got to post here before now. Some contribs at meta have disappeared as did a userpage that had been created there. I notice that this account remains unblocked although his contribs are gone. Since I'm not an admin there, I can no longer see them. :) I assume that the admins must have deleted this but I haven't chased that down yet.
- Also during the night, I received an email from the original Rachitrali account and I'm going to reply here. As you can see, I believe you that the above accounts and most recent activity isn't you. I had re-opened this case so that I could address that. Receiving the email helped confirm what I already suspected and as you can see another admin also suspected Najaf. To address another point in your email, no, we do not supply real names, email addresses, IP addresses, etc. You have indicated that you are trying to locate Najaf's actual residence and go find him. We cannot assist you in that matter.
— Berean Hunter (talk) 16:21, 9 May 2017 (UTC)- @Berean Hunter: Before User:Rehmat Aziz Chitrali Gold Medalist and User:Rehmat Aziz were added here (by others, not me) I noticed that they had been globally locked on Meta, after complaints from User:Rachitrali (who is blocked only on en-WP) about the accounts not being him, instead being people in Pakistan who are going after him on Wikipedia, and not only en-WP. - Tom | Thomas.W talk 16:43, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
09 May 2017
Suspected sockpuppets
- GAGAS00 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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quack, quack recreations of past sock articles, same general subject area dealing with Kashkar, Kho people/tribe and Chitral. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 11:10, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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Looks like a duck to me Definitely a sock. Articles deleted, and user blocked. RickinBaltimore (talk) 13:14, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
12 May 2017
Suspected sockpuppets
- Transformer X (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · spi block · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
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Recreation of several similar articles and same subject as last round of socks. See Transformer's creations:
A sock from the last round:
CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 12:04, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
And to make it even easier, they've had their username changed to Akbar ali ghazi. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:23, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
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- The name change to "Akbar ali ghazi" is so obvious that it has to be a "joe job". See comments about "joe job" in the section above... (... and if I was to bet on who's behind it I'd put my money on Najafalibhayo, based on what I've seen of him and his actions so far) - Tom | Thomas.W talk 14:30, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- who is doing joe job here? Am I missing something? --Saqib (talk) 15:58, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- The suggestion is that a person or persons unknown might be impersonating Akbaralighazi in order to get them in more trouble. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- Okay. This is what Akbaralighazi (Rehmat Aziz) told me by email, but I really don't believe it to be true. I wonder why someone would do that. What is the benefit of further impersonating Akbaralighazi when Akbaralighazi's bio page along with several articles related to him are deleted and several socks are blocked. Why not run a CU and identify the accounts run by that impersonator. --Saqib (talk) 16:23, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- The suggestion is that a person or persons unknown might be impersonating Akbaralighazi in order to get them in more trouble. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC)