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[[Image:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Technopat|Technopat]]. Your recent edit appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cite a reliable source]] or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Technopat|my talk page]]. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-error1 --> [[User:Technopat|Technopat]] ([[User talk:Technopat|talk]]) 08:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
[[Image:Information.svg|25px|alt=Information icon]] Hello, I'm [[User:Technopat|Technopat]]. Your recent edit appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please [[Wikipedia:Citing sources|cite a reliable source]] or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on [[User_talk:Technopat|my talk page]]. Thank you. <!-- Template:uw-error1 --> [[User:Technopat|Technopat]] ([[User talk:Technopat|talk]]) 08:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you for your note. Your edits at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emanuel_Swedenborg&diff=564194064&oldid=564154601] introduce original research not supported by any of the existing references. I checked a further three reliable sources on internet and not a single one of them support your version. If you can provide such a source, I suggest you add it to the existing version - without deleting the existing information - with an explanation to the effect that "although some sources quote it as a Thursday". Regards, --[[User:Technopat|Technopat]] ([[User talk:Technopat|talk]]) 22:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
:Thank you for your note. Your edits at [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Emanuel_Swedenborg&diff=564194064&oldid=564154601] introduce original research not supported by any of the existing references. I checked a further three reliable sources on internet and not a single one of them support your version. If you can provide such a source, I suggest you add it to the existing version - without deleting the existing information - with an explanation to the effect that "although some sources quote it as a Thursday". Regards, --[[User:Technopat|Technopat]] ([[User talk:Technopat|talk]]) 22:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
::Thank you for your note. As I mentioned above, if you can provide a reliable and verifiable source for each of the details you wish to add, fine. However, for example, brandhistoriska.org makes no mention of the days of the week involved, only to July 19, 1759.

::It’s unlikely that we will find a “definitive” source of Swedenberg’s “vision”, as they all seem to copy and/or embellish from the same unclear source. If they happen to coincide, it’s probably because the writer has read the same book as another colleague, but even then they differ to some extent. One that I checked the other day even stated that Gothenburg is 50 miles from Stockholm…

::For Kant's version (which I think we should mention in the article as such, becuase I'd imagine that all the other sources use it), based on hearsay, albeit from what we can take to be a trusted friend: Saturday, 19th July 1759, 4pm. ([http://books.google.es/books?id=DA-gRI21bq4C&pg=PA136&dq=Swedenborg+1759&hl=en&sa=X&ei=OiDlUbXuO6iL7AaIkoGwAQ&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Swedenborg%201759&f=false White, William (1998) ''Life of Emanuel Swedenborg: Together with a Brief Synopsis of His Writings, Both Philosophical and Theological'', pp. 136-137. Kessinger Publishing]).

::Wikipedia is not interested in the “Truth”, but in presenting information [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability/reliable_sources "based on reliable, published sources"] and what we have to do is make “sure that all majority and significant minority views that have appeared in those sources are covered”, presenting it in such a way as to show readers that there are differing versions (each of which must be duly referenced). Regards, --[[User:Technopat|Technopat]] ([[User talk:Technopat|talk]]) 11:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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Information icon Hello, I'm Technopat. Your recent edit appears to have added incorrect information, so I have removed it for now. If you believe the information was correct, please cite a reliable source or discuss your change on the article's talk page. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Technopat (talk) 08:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your note. Your edits at [1] introduce original research not supported by any of the existing references. I checked a further three reliable sources on internet and not a single one of them support your version. If you can provide such a source, I suggest you add it to the existing version - without deleting the existing information - with an explanation to the effect that "although some sources quote it as a Thursday". Regards, --Technopat (talk) 22:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your note. As I mentioned above, if you can provide a reliable and verifiable source for each of the details you wish to add, fine. However, for example, brandhistoriska.org makes no mention of the days of the week involved, only to July 19, 1759.
It’s unlikely that we will find a “definitive” source of Swedenberg’s “vision”, as they all seem to copy and/or embellish from the same unclear source. If they happen to coincide, it’s probably because the writer has read the same book as another colleague, but even then they differ to some extent. One that I checked the other day even stated that Gothenburg is 50 miles from Stockholm…
For Kant's version (which I think we should mention in the article as such, becuase I'd imagine that all the other sources use it), based on hearsay, albeit from what we can take to be a trusted friend: Saturday, 19th July 1759, 4pm. (White, William (1998) Life of Emanuel Swedenborg: Together with a Brief Synopsis of His Writings, Both Philosophical and Theological, pp. 136-137. Kessinger Publishing).
Wikipedia is not interested in the “Truth”, but in presenting information "based on reliable, published sources" and what we have to do is make “sure that all majority and significant minority views that have appeared in those sources are covered”, presenting it in such a way as to show readers that there are differing versions (each of which must be duly referenced). Regards, --Technopat (talk) 11:47, 16 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]