User talk:Benjamin Trovato

Boo!Benjamin Trovato (talk) 05:44, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I removed the quote on the share of GDP of SUGHD province of Tajikistan that you provided (i.e that Sughd accounts for 70% of the GDP), because there was no source listed for this and I could not verify the information. Can you provide the source please? Thanks. 5 May 2009 Misha

Nogai Horde

Hi, thanks for expanding the Nogai Horde article. However, there are some problems and I've added the necessary tags. I noticed you added the sentence, "There appears to be no academic book in English on the Nogais, so this article is weakly sourced." Keep in mind that non-English sources are permitted on Wikipedia. If you have sources, and they aren't in English, feel free to add them to the article anyways. It is preferred that you use the <ref> ([1], [2], etc.) system (see an example at Ali Akbar Abdolrashidi). Also, keep in mind that we can't cite other Wikipedias, as Wikipedia itself is not a reliable source. Cheers and happy editing. Khoikhoi 09:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Keep in mind that it is unnecessary to say "This article is derived from Khodarkovsky(2000) which appears to be the only readily available source in English" as you already have a References section below. In addition, consider using more in-line citations (i.e. page numbers). I see you've already done that with your "Sunderland, p26" ref, but consider doing it more throughout the article. Also include in-line citations from Khodarkovsky as well. Cheers, Khoikhoi 03:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Tuckahoe / Cohee

Many thanks for adding to the Tuckahoe/Cohee article. I haven't visited this article in some time, and I'm happy with its development. Your comparitive sociology segment is just what is needed to continue its development.

Incidently, as a root cause of small holders being successful in mountainous regions, it seems to me to be self-evident that the cost of military imposition of control on areas which are easily defended and favorable to guerilla-style warfare are high, while the marginal advantage of establishing such control is slight. In other words, the effort is not worth the reward of trying to bring such people under tight social control as long as they maintain a stubborn resistance to such control.

Lee Mathers Gwyncann (talk) 23:12, 12 October 2008 (UTC) new email is gwyncann@gmail.com

Siberia

I took a crack at making a map for you, take a look at Image:Siberiariverroutemap.png and let me know what you think. Any needed edits? Kmusser (talk) 20:38, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Map updated, in addition to your suggestions I fleshed out the northwest a bit. 00:41, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Also based just on looking at an atlas, the names of the rivers that you're missing are probably the Turuchan River (between the Taz and Yenisei at Turukhansk) and the Kuta River (between Illim and Lena at Ost-Kut) - it would be nice to have confirmation from another source though. Also to keep your eyes out when looking at other sources, the description from the Chusovaya to the Tavda seems a little weird, to do that portage you'd be crossing two other major rivers that also link to the Tobol, the Tura which is a direct tributary to the Tobol and the Sosva that is a tributary to the Tavda and closer to the Chusovaya than Lozva is. To your earlier question, there is no index to the commons, the closest thing is the categorization scheme, but that only works if someone bothered to categorize whatever you are looking for - best bet is still just using search. Kmusser (talk) 14:37, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Updated the map - take a look and see if it looks correct, I have the Amur route stopping at Nerchinsk, which I added in, and added the short spur to Kyatkha. I thought about adding Chita as well but the map is already pretty crowded in that area. I also corrected the river route there - I had been showing the Onon River but it should have been the Ingoda River which goes through Chita. Kmusser (talk) 21:43, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Updated the map, sorry it took so long, I had forgotten about it, take a peek and make sure it looks correct. Kmusser (talk) 18:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Global wind patterns / Winds in the Age of Sail

While the attempt was valiant, please don't "fix" moves/renames by means of cut-and-paste or reverts. They do little more than obscure the page history and make unreadable articles. To correct a "broken" cut and paste, it takes an administrator (such as myself) following extra steps to fix. See Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves for more information.|

If you'd like to move or rename a page, there is a "move" tab at the top of your screen which you may use instead. Using this function brings the page history along with the text, which is a requirement of the GFDL license that Wikipedia uses for its text.

The title is still not perfect, of course, but it may be a good idea to start a discussion on the article talkpage to get more ideas on page names. There may be better titles that we simply haven't thought of yet.

Let me know if you have any questions. Kylu (talk) 02:43, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Dzoosotoyn Elisen Desert (continued on my Talk Page @ Teledildonix314)

Hi Hi, thank you for inquiring about the Dzoosotoyn Elisen Desert article. If you would like to converse on my Talk Page, feel free to add it to your Watch List, and i will keep answering any questions there. Here are some links i hope will help.

Conversation thread here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Teledildonix314#Dzoostoyn_Elisen_Dessert

Help pages associated with this area here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Proposed_mergers

The two topics, which may or may not be Mergeable (i don't know the technical details, and i don't know any Chinese desert geography): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurbantunggut_Desert http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dzoosotoyn_Elisen_Desert

Replies here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Teledildonix314&action=edit&section=12

Thank you kindly, reply if you need more help suggestions, i'm sort of a newbie also. Teledildonix314 ^Talk ~ _{contributions} 16:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Dobryi

Hi, I moved your sentence about the Russian location to a new article, Dobryi, which you might like to develop further. (It doesn't seem to have any connection with Dobry, Poland.)--Kotniski (talk) 08:20, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

I was going to ask about this one, too. "Dobry" is a very generic and a very common name, and I am having trouble finding anything on this garrison. Could you, please, expand the stub, at least so it's clear what it's about? Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:53, April 23, 2009 (UTC)

Dezhnyov

Great; major improvement on the old article. I'm looking forward to seeing Fedot Dankarl (talk) 02:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry no help on Altasov.Dankarl (talk) 13:00, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I added some references and a little text to Anadyrsk; see what you think. Where does 1652 founding date come from?Dankarl (talk) 02:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

So we have Atlasov to thank for the Fedotov story, and Stadukhin was appointed an Ataman. I had always thought the term Cossack was used pretty loosely in the context of Siberian colonization; use of the title Ataman is interesting.Dankarl (talk) 17:14, 30 September 2009 (UTC) Is Ivanov building the stockade from Fisher?Dankarl (talk) 23:25, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

You might be interested to know that the Petit Fute Chukotka is available on Google books [1]; there does not seem to be much, if any, restriction (though sometimes the number of views is limited on Google Books). Dankarl (talk) 03:19, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Have you seen anything on Kurbat Ibanov exploration of Gulf of Anadyr, Kresta Bay, Provideniya Bay circa 1660? Dankarl (talk) 03:41, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Dankarl (talk) 13:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

There is a spit (Napkum in 1 source) within Provideniya Bay, and some beaches on either side of Cape Chukotsky. A spit at the cape itself seems unlikely since the water gets deep there fast. Any indication broadly are they using the term Cape Chukotsky? Dankarl (talk) 14:54, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Petit Fute says that the suggestion to rename East Cape as Cape Dezhnev came from A.E. Nordenskiold. I can't find confirmation of this information, but a Google search seems to suggest Fisher might mention it. Do you recall any such mention, or know another source? If you have it at hand, does it say when and where Nordenskiold made the suggestion?Dankarl (talk) 19:39, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the thorough answer.Dankarl (talk) 00:54, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Siberian Cossack

Please see my response at my talk page. Vmenkov (talk) 03:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I replied on my talk page to your 2nd comment as well. And, by the way, thanks for your contributions to the articles on Siberian history! Vmenkov (talk) 08:05, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Ivanov

Thanks for the heads-up. What I don't get is that Ivanof was a mapmaker, he supposedly visited Provideniya Bay, but the bay did not wind up on Russian maps.Dankarl (talk) 04:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

distance units

I ran across (actually back across) a passage you might be interested in:

"The next day I discovered one of the reasons why reports of distances given us by different natives vary so much. Some of them calculate distance by 'sabachi,' the long or dog verst, and some by 'kony,' the short, or horse verst." Olaf Swenson, Northwest of the World Dodd Mead, NY, 1944 p 229. The conversation reported took place in a Yakut house in the Kolyma district in 1928, or possibly on the trail in the same region. Note Swenson spells phonetically.Dankarl (talk) 19:26, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

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Warring States Map

Hi Benjamin, thanks for adding the Dutch map - it's a good interim solution. I'm currently creating a series of eight maps - one for each of the states with its territory highlighted then a generic one for things like the Warring States article. The problem I have is that I am stuck behind the GFC and can't upload anything to commons. Any chance you could help me out when the maps are complete? Best Philg88 (talk) 05:53, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Fisher's work on Dezhnev

Hi. I noticed for Stadukhin's page you cited Fisher's work. What does his work say about Stadukhin's expedition along the northern coast of the Sea of Okhotsk from 1651-57? Does it go into detail, or just mention it in passing? I would like to know whether it would be worth getting a copy, so I could perhaps cite it for an article I'm editing on wiki. Jonas Poole (talk) 04:30, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Bely Yar

Hi, Benjamin! I was wondering if you could give me some context for this entry (a town or fort)? I'm trying to determine whether it corresponds to any modern places called "Bely Yar". Thanks!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 1, 2010; 18:34 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Benjamin! While I still have no idea how to best take care of the entry on the Bely Yar page, this information is very helpful for research. Much appreciated.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 2, 2010; 02:57 (UTC) 02:57, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, I was going to whine about how my to-read list is too long already to add yet another book to it, but when I saw the title and the cover, I knew it's a must-read :) Thanks for the pointer!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); December 6, 2010; 14:46 (UTC)

Chanyu List

Dear Benjamin Trovato, I will respond on my page where you posted your note [2]. Barefact (talk) 06:50, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I have completed the draft for the tree as far as I could go, but before I move it to post, I would appreciate if you could review it [3]. I did not find any references for the following four characters, so I do not know how they fit in the picture. If you can help me, I would be grateful.

劉務恒 Liú Wùhéng  ??? 341-356

劉閼陋頭 Liú èlòutóu  ??? 356-358

劉悉勿祈 Liú Xīwùqí  ??? 358-359

劉衛辰 Liú Wèichén Posthumously named "Emperor Huan" 359-391

Barfield appear to follow Wade–Giles, without parcing into names and titles. Bichurin is citing comments from the annals that after Huhanye, Shanuys added Jodi to their name, Shanuy => Jodi Shanuy; Jodi in Hunnic means "respectful to parents" (in Chinese interpretation, which might be somewhat inaccurate), and it corresponds to the Chinese Hou "respectful to parents" that was added to the Chinese emperor's title; we see it in Yap's Shanuys Fuzhleirou(di) and Cheyaruodi as pin. ruodi and in Barfield's Wade–Giles in Hsi-lo-shih-chu-t'i as chu-t'i; these are not parts of the name, but of the title Jodi-Shanuy. The pin. ruodi is Wade–Giles juodi, which matches Bichurin's Jodi.

In some cases Chinese appended to the Shanuys's title their term for "posessor", "head of posession" hou, making it a composite Shanuy-hou; the choice to do it was up to the compiler, so there is no consistency, a few have it, most have not. Since the titles are not included in Touman, Maodun, Laoshang names, inclusion of the titles as names for other entries is inconsistent, confusing, and simply misleading. I think that where it can be done, the titles should be stripped and given separately. Ditto for the Chinese-assigned "family names", the use of family names in Hunnic context is a special topic. Ditto for the Chinese-style temple names, these are fictitious names peculiar to the Chinese anscestor cult.

Would it be too much to ask you to send me a good resolution PDF of the Barfield's table showing the family relations between the various Chanyus? [4] I will run it against Bichurin's translation and flag out any discrepancies, in addition to educating me, that might save some subsequent questions.

My best wishes to you for the New Year. Barefact (talk) 08:39, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

No, the wiki-email did not come through (unless I deleted it from the Spam folder without looking at the contents). I hope you sent yourself a copy and can re-send it. When that happens, it is terribly distressing, I am very appreciative of the efforts it takes to compose. Regards Barefact (talk) 01:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

[5] (((from BillMasen)))

Sino-Russian relations

If I span off the early part of History of Sino-Russian relations into its own article, would that be ok by you? And reduced the early history to a summary? You clearly know more about the subject that I can claim to. BillMasen (talk) 14:52, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Answer

• See User_talk:Yug#Thank_You (in 5 mins, I have to expand my answer) Yug (talk) 15:47, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

New Map

Hi, long time no see, hope all is well. There are a couple issues with this new map that you've added to Cai (state) amongst othera:

• 1) There is a typo in the title "Automn"
• 2) 5 BC is not Spring and Autumn - it is Han Dynasty and these states no longer existed.
• 3) Hangzhou is spelt wrong, if it even existed
• 4) Inconsistent capitalization

And that's just after a quick look. I haven't reverted your edits out of courtesy but please get this sorted out. Thanks and all the best. ► Philg88 ◄ ^talk 07:01, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Citation of reliable sources

Hello Benjamin. Congratulations on your new article Exploration of the Pacific. It is a very high quality article. I noticed that you nominated the two references you used. So far you have not identified in detail the source of any of the information in the article. Wikipedia requires that any information that is challenged, or likely to be challenged, must be independently verifiable by the use of in-line citations leading to the document, page number etc from which the information was taken. See WP:VERIFY.

Please have a look at WP:RS which provides a lot of information about the need for reliable sources being identified for all material published in Wikipedia. Please also return to your new article and add in-line citations to allow independent verification of your material. Keep up the good work! Dolphin (t) 03:56, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for adding an in-line citation pointing to the book by Derek Hayes as the source of information in a sentence. I have added a new banner saying "This article has insufficient in-line citations."

To see an exemplary Wikipedia article please have a look at any of the featured articles. You will notice that after the introductory paragraph almost every sentence is supported by an in-line citation to identify the source and allow independent verification.

When a User inserts some information in a Wikipedia article it is primarily the responsibility of that User to identify the source of that information using an in-line citation. The responsibility is not primarily on other Users or on the reader. Best regards. Dolphin (t) 22:44, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

It's not that the winds in the tropics are "strange" between Mexico and the Philippines

Trade wind easterlies are constant in the tropics of both hemispheres, north and south, within 20 degrees of the equator, on the poleward side of the subtropical ridge. The problem is, people who initially sailed from the Philippines to Mexico in the 16th century would be sailing headlong into the easterlies (which blow FROM Mexico to the Philippines). It wasn't until they discovered the warm water currents like the Kuroshio and Gulf Stream that sailors found a quick way from west to east across the ocean. The problem is, the warm water currents that flow from west to east lie north of the 35th parallel, which is well north of Mexico and the Philippines, so it took them a while to figure it out. Eventually, they discovered the winds drove the currents, but that took another 2-3 centuries. Thegreatdr (talk) 22:11, 29 August 2011 (UTC)