Talk:David Oei: Difference between revisions
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:There is no advertisement, as such is not permitted at Wikipedia. What there was was insistent and repeated deletion, quite against consensus, of important content and sourcing--something that has become a hallmark of the above editor (in addition to [[WP:STALK]], in which he has engaged for months, and continues to engage in to this very day). Kindly cease insistently removing, against consensus, important, sourced data from our articles. The shop's ownership was clearly sourced, quite properly, by [http://www.splendora.com/cityguide/reviews/new_york/carlyle_wines/180875 this source], which was removed again and again quite against consensus. Please restore it. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 02:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
:There is no advertisement, as such is not permitted at Wikipedia. What there was was insistent and repeated deletion, quite against consensus, of important content and sourcing--something that has become a hallmark of the above editor (in addition to [[WP:STALK]], in which he has engaged for months, and continues to engage in to this very day). Kindly cease insistently removing, against consensus, important, sourced data from our articles. The shop's ownership was clearly sourced, quite properly, by [http://www.splendora.com/cityguide/reviews/new_york/carlyle_wines/180875 this source], which was removed again and again quite against consensus. Please restore it. [[User:Badagnani|Badagnani]] ([[User talk:Badagnani|talk]]) 02:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::For one thing, Badagnani, please don't engage in personal attacks and baseless threats. Second of all, directories and blatant ads don't count as sources and have no place in an article. Therefore it should stay removed. There does not have to be consensus for every single thing that is removed; rather, it should be for questionable items that are added. [[WP:BRD]], [[WP:OWN]] and [[WP:DRNC]] apply here quite nicely. '''''[[User:GraYoshi2x|<font color="#006600">GraYoshi2x►</font>]]'''''<sup>[[User talk:GraYoshi2x|talk]]</sup> 02:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
::For one thing, Badagnani, please don't engage in personal attacks and baseless threats. Second of all, directories and blatant ads don't count as sources and have no place in an article. Therefore it should stay removed. There does not have to be consensus for every single thing that is removed; rather, it should be for questionable items that are added. [[WP:BRD]], [[WP:OWN]] and [[WP:DRNC]] apply here quite nicely. '''''[[User:GraYoshi2x|<font color="#006600">GraYoshi2x►</font>]]'''''<sup>[[User talk:GraYoshi2x|talk]]</sup> 02:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
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::For editors new to these problems, [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Badagnani]] includes documentation of many similar issues. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] ([[User talk:Ronz|talk]]) 02:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
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I'm curious how the inclusion of a store that completely occupied my life for 10 years can be considered promotional material when that store was closed FOREVER by me back in 2004. How can it be promotional material when the store no longer exist? Please explain to me what the benefits are with this PROMOTION. [[Special:Contributions/173.114.8.111|173.114.8.111]] ([[User talk:173.114.8.111|talk]]) 03:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
For editors new to these problems, [[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Badagnani]] includes documentation of many similar issues. --[[User:Ronz|Ronz]] ([[User talk:Ronz|talk]]) 02:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
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:::I'm curious how the inclusion of a store that completely occupied my life for 10 years can be considered promotional material when that store was closed FOREVER by me back in 2004. How can it be promotional material when the store no longer exist? Please explain to me what the benefits are with this PROMOTION. [[Special:Contributions/173.114.8.111|173.114.8.111]] ([[User talk:173.114.8.111|talk]]) 03:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC) |
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Surname
Is his Chinese surname 黃, 韦, or 卫, or something else? And does he have a Chinese given (first) name? Badagnani 07:34, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
- It's the first one. It's actually Wong spelled Oei. davidoei.weebly.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.115.222.103 (talk) 02:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Is that a Cantonese-language pronunciation? Standard Cantonese (Guangzhou dialect) is supposed to be "Wong4." Badagnani (talk) 04:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's from the Amoy province. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.59.7.139 (talk) 17:25, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
You mean that your ancestors came from Xiamen, in the Fujian province, before settling in Hong Kong? If so, that would mean that the language they spoke was the Amoy dialect, which is a mixture of the Quanzhou and Zhangzhou dialects of Hokkien (Min Nan). Badagnani (talk) 18:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- There is a given first name. How can one send Chinese characters? (Carlylewines (talk) 17:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
You may use this website to look up the characters, then copy and paste them here. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Index:Chinese_radical Badagnani (talk) 18:44, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- My surname Oei is pronounced Wee (as in bee, see, etc.) It's the closest approximation of my native southern Fujian dialect. The biography of my great grandfather Oei Tjoe confirms this and for 14 years touring with The Intimate P.D.Q. Bach I was introduced loudly as David Wee. 173.115.88.213 (talk) 03:35, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
Just glanced at my history page and realized there's an editor out there deleting and disputing the pronounciation of my name. This is LUDICROUS!!!! I AM DAVID OEI AND MY NAME IS PRONOUNCED WEE. Are you telling me how my name should be pronounced? 173.101.129.90 (talk) 22:47, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
One of the P.D.Q. Bach albums has Peter Schickele announcing David Oei's name pronounced as "David Wee" (he further states that he holds a "black belt in piano" and that although he is from Hong Kong he has "performed on both sides of...Interstate 80." Badagnani (talk) 16:44, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
U.S. citizenship
Is he a U.S. citizen and, if so, in what year did he obtain U.S. citizenship? Badagnani (talk) 05:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
- I am a citizen. Will have to look up the year. Thanks for everythig. How can I send a photo to you? davidoei.weebly.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.115.222.103 (talk) 02:25, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Sorry to ask such a personal question, but it helps to categorize the article (we already have you in Category:Chinese Americans from Hong Kong, which is accurate). I assume your whole family moved from Hong Kong when you came to the U.S.? Badagnani (talk) 04:14, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
- Only my Mom came with me. Brother and Mom now live in SF. Relatives mostly in Hong Kong and around the globe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.59.7.139 (talk) 17:29, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Your life has been a real odyssey. Badagnani (talk) 18:50, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Linkspam
Regarding [1] and other edits on this same information: This is nothing more that a link to a site created by Oei's wife about herself. It's not being used as a source, but rather was added to promote her website. --Ronz (talk) 01:18, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
Advertisement
Regarding [2] and other edits on this same information: Given that Oei no longer owns this shop, and no sources have been provided that show how his past ownership of this shop is an important part of Oei's life, I've removed it as overly promotional for the shop itself. --Ronz (talk) 01:21, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- There is no advertisement, as such is not permitted at Wikipedia. What there was was insistent and repeated deletion, quite against consensus, of important content and sourcing--something that has become a hallmark of the above editor (in addition to WP:STALK, in which he has engaged for months, and continues to engage in to this very day). Kindly cease insistently removing, against consensus, important, sourced data from our articles. The shop's ownership was clearly sourced, quite properly, by this source, which was removed again and again quite against consensus. Please restore it. Badagnani (talk) 02:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- For one thing, Badagnani, please don't engage in personal attacks and baseless threats. Second of all, directories and blatant ads don't count as sources and have no place in an article. Therefore it should stay removed. There does not have to be consensus for every single thing that is removed; rather, it should be for questionable items that are added. WP:BRD, WP:OWN and WP:DRNC apply here quite nicely. GraYoshi2x►talk 02:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
For editors new to these problems, Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Badagnani includes documentation of many similar issues. --Ronz (talk) 02:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm curious how the inclusion of a store that completely occupied my life for 10 years can be considered promotional material when that store was closed FOREVER by me back in 2004. How can it be promotional material when the store no longer exist? Please explain to me what the benefits are with this PROMOTION. 173.114.8.111 (talk) 03:53, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
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