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Also despite following current politics I have no idea how he is tied to Slovakia. The provided reference [http://www.ujszo.com/clanok_tlac.asp?cl=187357] should probably document his tie to Slovakia, but is in Hungarian language therefore please could you give the brief summary at appropriate section of [[:User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment]]? --[[User:Ruziklan|Ruziklan]] ([[User talk:Ruziklan|talk]]) 19:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC) |
Also despite following current politics I have no idea how he is tied to Slovakia. The provided reference [http://www.ujszo.com/clanok_tlac.asp?cl=187357] should probably document his tie to Slovakia, but is in Hungarian language therefore please could you give the brief summary at appropriate section of [[:User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment]]? --[[User:Ruziklan|Ruziklan]] ([[User talk:Ruziklan|talk]]) 19:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC) |
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:Sure. [[User:CoolKoon|CoolKoon]] ([[User talk:CoolKoon|talk]]) 19:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC) |
:Sure. [[User:CoolKoon|CoolKoon]] ([[User talk:CoolKoon|talk]]) 19:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC) |
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If I ever see you say such things again, you will be blocked for violating Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Khoikhoi 06:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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Hangok
Helló! A hangok nem magyar hangok, az ő helyett is valami nagyon durva volt. A magyar hangok IPA-jelölése viszont ismert, nem most kell megpróbálni rekonstruálni valami afrikai nyelvleckének hangzó hangfelvétel alapján. :) KovacsUr 19:05, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Names in Croatian
Hi, CoolKoon.
On the talk page of the article Zadar, you've said: "I'll finally know the Croatian names for the cities in Hungary."
You've mentioned Debrecen, Kecskemét, Székesfehérvár, Miskolc, Eger, Esztergom, Komárom, Győr, Pécs, I'll tell you names for the few cities from that list.
Székesfehérvár was called "Stolni Biograd" in Croatian. Still, in modern Croatian, you'll see form in Hungarian in use (mostly without diacritics, like "Szekesfehervar").
Pécs is called "Pečuh". Name is in use in standard Croatian.
Nagykanizsa (not mentioned above) is called "Velika Kaniža". Name is in use in standard Croatian, sometimes is used Hungarian form.
And, of course, Budapest is "Budimpešta". Name is in use in standard Croatian.
For the other cities, I'll provide names, as soon as I find the names. Still, it's important to note, that in modern Croatian standard language, mostly Hungarian nameforms are used for the cities in Hungary. Greetings, Kubura 17:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, CoolKoon-bacsi.
As I promised....
Croat minority in Hungary has also its names for the cities in Hungary. Those names are in use in the Hungarian Croat press (but not in Croatia!), that uses Croat standard language (with the exception of Gradišće/Burgenland Croats, they use their version of Croat standard). Also, some cities are there named without some adjectives in name. E.g., Magyarovar is in Croatian historiography/older sources in Croatian called "Ugarski Stari Grad", while local Croat minority from there calls that city "Stari Grad, Starograd, Starigrad" (at the same time, they call Mosony as "Možun"). Similar is with Szekesfehervar; while old Croatian sources calls it as "Stolni Biograd", local Croat minority calls it "Biograd", and appears under that name in Hungarian Croat press. Nagykanizsa is called simply "Kaniža".
Croat minority in Hungary has also its names for some other cities (names are used in their press in Hungary): Debrecen is "Debrcin, Debrecin", Kecskemét is "Kečkemerac, Kečkemit", Eger is sometimes called "Jegar", Komárom is "Komoran", Győr is "Jura, Đura, Vjura", Esztergom is "Ostrogon", Zalaegerszeg is called "Jegersak", Szeged is called "Segedin" (also in use in Croatian press), etc..
Recently, there was a scientific work from Hungarian scientist, titled "Croat names for toponyms in Hungary". Kubura 07:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
BTW, does "Koon" in your username has somethings with Kuns (like in Kiskunsag), Cumans? Greetings, Kubura 07:22, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
Albanians and Zadar
Hi, CoolKoon-bacsi.
When I've said, that Albanians were more important for the history of Zadar than Hungarians, I wasn't fooling.
Maybe it sound sarcastic, but that's truth.
Beside the Albanians that came from Kosovo, W Macedonia and E Montenegro to Zadar (during times of Yugoslavia), there's an original Albanian immigrant colony, today in the city of Zadar (before 50 years it was an outer village, than a suburb of Zadar, nowadays it's a cityquarter of Zadar). That Albanian are descendants of Albanians that escaped from Ottoman terror in Albania.
That part of the city of Zadar is called Arbanasi.
Arbanasi have their special dialect, with a lot of Albanian in it.
The streets in that part are named after Albanians and Albanians-related persons like: Juraj Kastriotić, Milan Šufflay (Croatian albanologist, beaten to death by royal Yugoslav police), fra Gjergj Mishta, Illyrian queen Teuta, Ivan Petani.
In the Age of national awakenings, in 19th century, that Albanian community turned to - Croathood!
Big point about this is that Albanians are traditionally "closed" community, very hard to assimilate. But, unlike with the other world, they turned to Croats, to poorer people, not toward much richer Italian-speaking community. And at that time, Croatia wasn't independent.
Today, Arbanasi are very influential for the Zadar.
Basketball player and Josip Đerđa comes from that community.
Croatian minister of transport Božidar Kalmeta is also Arbanas.
Croatian singer Mladen Grdović also has Arbanas roots.
More famous Arbanasi are on the page hr:Arbanasi.
On the other hand, what Hungarian was important for Zadar? Kubura 17:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
Zadar
I'm not editing that article (I did it only twice recently [1] and [2]), I've just added some messages to the talkpage.
If someone accuses me in "not want to reach a compromise", just because I don't want to allow giving others what doesn't belong to them at all, than that accusation says something about accuser.
About Zadar: during Austria-Hungary, it was in Austrian part of the monarchy. Before that, under the rule of Napoleon, before that, under the rule of Venice (crusaders captured it for the Venice), before that, in Kingdom of Croatia-Hungary (or Hungary-Croatia, put it as you wish). But in that Kingdom, Zadar was in the part of kingdom that was ruled by Croatian ban (viceroy). So, where is direct connection with Hungary?
On the other hand, Buda and Pest were under Ottoman rule, but I don't see names in Turkish (on Wikipedia) for that, now one city. Although Buda and Pest were directly under Ottoman rule.
I mention this, to show how the rule of "rulers cityname" wasn't implied everywhere. Kubura 12:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Voting
Hi, CoolKoon.
I have something for you, I think you'll be interested.
There's a voting on wikipedia Commons, regarding the map Serbia1918.
You'll be VERY interested for that voting.
Link is here [3]. Your vote'll be appretiated. Kubura 11:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
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Hungarian disputes
Hi, I noticed that you'd been involved in some edit wars involving Hungarian articles. I have created a centralized subpage to discuss some of these disputes, and invite you to participate: User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment. --Elonka 08:39, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Gábor Demszky
You have just inserted Gábor Demszky into List of Slovaks (see diff diff) in spite of
- discussion over the list inclusion criteria just now running at User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment,
- no evidence on page on Gábor Demszky that he has any tie to Slovakia.
Also despite following current politics I have no idea how he is tied to Slovakia. The provided reference [4] should probably document his tie to Slovakia, but is in Hungarian language therefore please could you give the brief summary at appropriate section of User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment? --Ruziklan (talk) 19:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- Sure. CoolKoon (talk) 19:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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