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I don't believe this phrase is synonymous with the target, and is actually widely used by countless other places as well. [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 16:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
I don't believe this phrase is synonymous with the target, and is actually widely used by countless other places as well. [[User:Hey man im josh|Hey man im josh]] ([[User talk:Hey man im josh|talk]]) 16:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
*That phrase has received coverage in the context of WMATA in the press [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2014/10/22/her-voice-is-on-metro-but-she-isnt/] [https://wamu.org/story/14/11/05/listen_the_voice_of_metro_talks_about_the_perks_of_being_a_dc_celebrity/] which is already mentioned somewhat at the target and this particular phrasing (with a few different minor versions) could probably be added as well. No knowledge if that exact phrase is used by other systems. (And there's a new indie movie on the festival circuit, which is set in DC with this title [https://stepbackdoorsclosing.com/].) [[User:Skynxnex|Skynxnex]] ([[User talk:Skynxnex|talk]]) 16:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)


====Web interfaces====
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Revision as of 16:44, 11 November 2024

This is a list of redirects that have been proposed for deletion or other action on November 11, 2024.

Step back, doors closing

I don't believe this phrase is synonymous with the target, and is actually widely used by countless other places as well. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • That phrase has received coverage in the context of WMATA in the press [1] [2] which is already mentioned somewhat at the target and this particular phrasing (with a few different minor versions) could probably be added as well. No knowledge if that exact phrase is used by other systems. (And there's a new indie movie on the festival circuit, which is set in DC with this title [3].) Skynxnex (talk) 16:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Web interfaces

Delete redundant redirect since we already have Web interface Nuclearelement (talk) 03:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

speedy keep and retarget to Web interface TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 05:50, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Web API along with Web interface and Web-interface. I probably should have checked whether web interface was a redirect or not. TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 22:47, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: While all votes are to retarget, one has pointed out to Web API instead of web interface. Relisting for clarity
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JuniperChill (talk) 14:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

chicken/egg

could this be a plausible case of xy, with chicken and chicken egg having their own articles, or would bringing them both up automatically primarily associate it with the paradox? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mlawu ka Rarabe

This redirects to Mlawu ka Rarabe's father, it seems unnecessary Smallangryplanet (talk) 10:36, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep Useful for people looking for royal geneaologies. However, there are WP:RETURNTORED considerations. As there are no other biographical detail other than the mention of being the son. Ca talk to me! 12:40, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, plicit 14:10, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Komodo dragon fact sheet

created as a redundant trivia page, taken to afd, and blar'd in the span of 4 minutes. that's probably not important to this nomination, which just boils down to previous "facts" redirects getting deleted cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

miscellaneous earthbound characters

unmentioned (for the most part, belch is named in a citation), not very important (for the most part, an argument could be made for everdred and apple kid) cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

miscellaneous earthbound plot things

not mentioned, and not very important either, give or take the apple of plot exposition that is mentioned once in the game and never acknowledged again cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:02, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rare pokemon

whoa cool, like starters and fossils? rarity for individual pokémon is hard to quantify when there's more than one game and more than one way to obtain pokémon, and it's only mentioned in the target as "shiny pokémon are rare lol" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Life Without Hope

R without mention of target. There have been a lot of books on this guy. Why redirect when there's no information about the book in the article it's targeting?

Also goes for most of the other articles in Category:Non-fiction books about Richard Ramirez. Some of these books are surely notable, in which case WP:RETURNTORED, as there's no information about them at the target PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:33, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rohit

Rohit Sharma is an extremely popular article, and was at the title Rohit, but is Rohit Sharma the primary topic for the popular given name "Rohit" (see Rohit (name)). If it is, then fine, stay as we are, but I think it ought to be discussed because it's fairly unusual for a given name to redirect to an individual who it is not stated is known by the mononym. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 10:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ugh, what a mess. There's also the mononymous Rohit (actor). My inclination would be to move the dab page to the main title (and remove Sharma from the intro sentence of that, which is there inappropriately), despite it being an apparently popular article among those for various Rohits. 35.139.154.158 (talk) 15:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ro (antigen)

We need an expert to determine if these are correctly targeted. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism of object-oriented programming

The target section Object-oriented programming#Criticism does not exist in that form anymore, see this change. There are currently no incoming internal links. There is no relevant edit history at Criticism of object-oriented programming that would need to be preserved. Tea2min (talk) 09:55, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It could link to Object-oriented programming#Popularity and reception, or just be deleted. My vote is delete. Mathnerd314159 (talk) 14:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mathnerd314159: I already fixed the broken section anchor. Why is it better to delete it? Jarble (talk) 15:11, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Super Heavies

Delete. This is a redirection of a meant-to-be-funny term "Heavies", created by an editor to redirect to his favourite playground. The term is by no means usual, or ever been used by anyone other than this editor who likes to link to this page on talk pages. I reccon this misuse of redicection pages. 47.67.225.78 (talk) 07:12, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. I'm not sure I understand the IP's argument? 'Heavies' is just... the plural form of 'Heavy' used as a noun, as in the SpaceX Super Heavy-- I could easily see multiple SpaceX Super Heavy rocket stages being referred to as "Super Heavies". If you follow the link given, you are, in fact, given a list of all Super Heavy rocket stages that have existed. Unless there's a better target for the redirect, we keep here. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 08:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Retarget to Super heavy as per the discussion above. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 10:47, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. WP:BOLD :) 47.67.225.78 (talk) 11:15, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Please don't do that. We still have an active RfD; as per the text at the very top of this very WP:RFD page, it's very much not a good idea to change or rename the target of a redirect while it's under discussion due to it causing unnecessary problems for the closing admin and any other discussion participants. I reverted the good-faith edit here, but please don't do it again. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 15:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
KEEP List of Super Heavies is clearly different from the disambuigation page. If ya'll want, it can be renamed to List of Super Heavy Boosters.
Redirecting it to Super Heavy makes no sense. Looking at the Pageviews for each of the pages listed on the disambuigation page may help determine what people think of when thinking of "Super Heavy". Each number is the most recent # of pageviews listed.
Super Heavy (Proposed Redirect Target): 25, Unrated (disambuigation page)
Transuranium element: 141, C-class
SuperHeavy: 57, Stub-class
SuperHeavy (album): 12, Start-class
SpaceX Super Heavy (Current Redirect Target): 1127, B-class
Super-heavy tank: 364, Start-class
The current redirect target has more views than all the others. Combined. And then almost doubled.
EDIT If anything is going to be the redirect target for 'List of Super Heavies", its shoubl be Super Heavy booster.
Additionally, turning List of Super Heavies into a dedicated article (Alongside List of Starships) is being discussed here.
This is not without precedent: List of Falcon 9 first-stage boosters exists, after all. Redacted II (talk) 12:06, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment- Guidelines suggest notifying the creator of the redirect if it is being discussed: "Please notify the good faith creator and any main contributors of the redirect"
This was not done, for either this or the previous proposed deletion. Redacted II (talk) 12:49, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment- "the current redirect target has more views than all the others." - this is self-serving. E.g., as Google looks up Wikipedia, it follows the redirect and spams the search results with the booster. It is irrelevant, though, as there exists other important "super heavy" meanings and the redirect has to respect that. I still think deleting would be best, but disambiation is second. Keeping is futile.
47.67.225.78 (talk) 18:26, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The views of the Super Heavy article redirect briefly increased views by ~40, well within normal variation at the time (current variation is around 200 per day).
Current views of the redirect is 10. 10 views is nothing when daily variations are measured in the hundreds.
This still puts it well above the other pages. Combined.
Also, @ing users involved in dicussion regarding creation of List of Super Heavies.
@Ergzay, @HLFan, @Spookywooky2 You were all involved in the discussion that resulted in the disputed redirects creation. Redacted II (talk) 15:24, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion was month ago, about "List of Starships" and finished. Has nothing to do with what is being discussed here, but call helpers as you like. Nevertheless, there is nothing called itself "Super Heavies", it's at best a plural referring to multiple entities called "super heavy", at worst nonsense. 47.67.225.78 (talk) 16:28, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A discussion that led to the creation of a redirect is valid in a discussion regarding a potential deletion of said redirect. In fact, you are supposed to notify the creator of the redirect and any main contributors. You failed to do this for both this attempt at deletion AND the previous proposed deletion. Redacted II (talk) 19:23, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@47.67.225.78 Please don't assume bad faith with statements like "meant to be funny" and "personal playground". That's extremely inaccurate. The plural of Heavy is Heavies or possibly Heavys in this case. It's a perfectly fine redirect. Your posting history shows a clear personal hatred for Redacted II. If you continue this behavior I will personally make it a goal to get you IP banned for this type of hounding. It is entirely inappropriate. Ergzay (talk) 16:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you.
(Just so you are aware, I have reported them before, but the admins had no interest in doing anything about it) Redacted II (talk) 17:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sock puppeting only applies to accounts, not IP addresses, so your issue was probably harmed by not reporting things correctly. Also I think you picked out too many examples of simply uncooperative comments without enough examples of personal attacks. Keep the report focused. There's no rule you can't make a second ANI report after some time has passed with new events. It's been three months. Ping me on my talk page if you do and I'll back you up if there's sufficient evidence. Ergzay (talk) 22:19, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It was likely killed by that mistake.
I'll give them another chance before trying ANI again. Redacted II (talk) 23:46, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ Ergzay. Funny how you accuse me of assuming bad faith, while doing the same with implying several other "misdoings" which have been rebutted long ago... Could you and your buddies please stop rallying against me? This seems to be a campaign to discredit me and this redicect discussion while no factual arguments are made. Totally out of context and just WP:PA 47.67.225.78 (talk) 09:59, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, saying that a B-Class article is a users "Playground" is okay, but correcting you for repeated violations of WP:AGF (and ignoring established facts) is a Personal Attack?
Okay.
Sure. Redacted II (talk) 20:16, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Also don't redirect. Redirecting to Super Heavy makes no sense given that several items on that page could not possibly have a list made of them. At worst, it should have its own disambiguation page created and the SpaceX link made the "primary topic" for the subject. Ergzay (talk) 16:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is already a pseudo-disambiguation page for Super Heavy. Redacted II (talk) 17:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ergzay, not sure I follow your logic. Are you suggesting that we keep the redirect to the SpaceX list? You said "several items on that page could not possibly have a list made of them". On Wikipedia we have a list of superheavy elements (link), a list of super-heavy tanks (link) and the list of super heavy rocket boosters (link). Perhaps changing List of Super Heavies into to disambiguation page linking to these lists is appropriate.
Also, I see no primary topic out of these lists, and article quality ratings and view counts probably aren't relevant in this case.
I am definitely going to eat some humble pie over my comment about these discussions getting low foot traffic. Commander Keane (talk) 22:43, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Commander Keane SpaceX Starship is regularly in the news making media headlines super heavy tanks and superheavy elements are not. That's why I would call it the primary topic. And I agree with "Perhaps changing List of Super Heavies into to disambiguation page linking to these lists is appropriate." However I will note that there's the related page List of Starships that links to the equivalent page for the upper stage, though I'm sure there's tons of other lists of starships of various meanings elsewhere on wikipedia we still have it as basically the primary page, without even any disambiguation pages. I'm not sure how these two cases are different. And finally, this is all prep to turn it into a separate page like like List of Falcon 9 first-stage boosters once the list gets sufficiently long to split out. Ergzay (talk) 12:07, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, there is already a Super Heavy disambiguation page. And out of every article mentioned here, SpaceX Super heavy is both the highest quality (B-Class), most viewed, and the only one of "High Importance" to a WikiProject.
Redirecting the list to a disambiguation page that gets between 1 and 25 views per day (with the spikes in viewership matching the dates of Flight 1, Flight 2, Flight 3, Flight 4, and Flight 5) makes no sense at all.
(Also, I do believe that the list is already long enough to turn into a separate page, and has been for some time) Redacted II (talk) 13:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✴️IcarusThe Astrologer✴️ 09:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Indy HeroClix (heroclix)

Inappropriate DAB formatting by listing it both inside and outside the parentheses. Delete as unhelpful redirect. If kept, please redirect to List of HeroClix supplements#Main series. TNstingray (talk) 18:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Yes, indeed, bring me to the page about a heroclix! Which one? The one that's a heroclix! This is a very implausible disambiguation attempt, and we don't need it. 𝔏𝔲𝔫𝔞𝔪𝔞𝔫𝔫🌙🌙🌙 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔐𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔬𝔫𝔦𝔢𝔰𝔱 (talk) 04:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Move the non-insignificant edit history to Indy Clix (which seems to be the real name per Google searches) and retartget to List of HeroClix supplements#Main series as suggested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BOZ (talkcontribs) 08:12, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Regards, SONIC678 04:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cute little k

Possible nonsense redirect. The only thing I can make out is that the variable is k. Don't know what makes it cute little though. TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 00:47, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cute-chan

This doesn't seem to be a common nickname for her. TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 00:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cute of the Class

Possible alternative translation? Don't see any mention yet. TeapotsOfDoom (talk) 00:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]