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You are edit-warring on [[Indigenous Aryans]], and are in danger of violating [[WP:3RR]]. Further reverts will result in blocks. You keep inserting nonsensical arguments, in spite of painstaking explanations by several editors on talk. This is disruptive in itself, and if you continue in this vein, you may also be banned. Note that you may also be blocked for gaming the 3RR. If you genuinely cannot follow the debate on talk and feel you are bullied, I suggest you open an [[WP:RfC]] on the article for wider input: if you want to pursue the subject, this is your course of action, while further edit-warring will not only lead nowhere, but reinforce the appearence that you are consciously trolling the article. [[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 17:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC) |
You are edit-warring on [[Indigenous Aryans]], and are in danger of violating [[WP:3RR]]. Further reverts will result in blocks. You keep inserting nonsensical arguments, in spite of painstaking explanations by several editors on talk. This is disruptive in itself, and if you continue in this vein, you may also be banned. Note that you may also be blocked for gaming the 3RR. If you genuinely cannot follow the debate on talk and feel you are bullied, I suggest you open an [[WP:RfC]] on the article for wider input: if you want to pursue the subject, this is your course of action, while further edit-warring will not only lead nowhere, but reinforce the appearence that you are consciously trolling the article. [[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 17:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC) |
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:you are blocked for 48 hours. Fyi, see [[WP:AN/I#Sbhushan]]. [[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 18:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC) |
:you are blocked for 48 hours. Fyi, see [[WP:AN/I#Sbhushan]]. [[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 18:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC) |
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== Request for an Independent Admin == |
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{{unblock|Dab has abused admin power by blocking me due to content dispute. He is providing original reasearch and reverting properly citied material. In one citaion, he provided he has misquoted the author he has cited. I fixed the text based on the citation. He has been providing original reaserch at all the topics related to Indo-Aryan migration and I can provide history of this. I have also requested third party mediantion and informal mediation from mediation cabal. I will not edit any page for next 48 hours (or till another independent admin allows me to) to show good faith. But I am requesting an Independent admin to look into Dab's behaviour and ensure that he doesn't abuse Wikipedia policies WP:ATT}} |
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We're so glad you're here! - Thanks for your help oin the Talk:Out of India page.Bakaman Bakatalk 23:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Very Very Very Good ! I think the way you want to deal the OIT article is proper. WIN 09:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
OIT
Welcome to Wikipedia. I like your ideas and would rather that the OIT was not presented as some crackpot religiously motivated theory. I haven't read the entirety of the OIT talk page yet as I am not getting much time on Wikipedia these days (life is getting hectic). Maybe in a week I'll commment. I was just wondering on which particular authors presented on the current OIT page are basing their claims on religious means as opposed to scholarly. Stephen Knapp and David Frawley are obvious (despite having distinctly non-Hindu names). Who else? Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 03:58, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- Hold it, hold it. I know you are new to Wikipedia so you may not know this. Wikipedia is essentially always a work in progress, with new material coming in to various articles every day. The tagging of every section on the OIT page and the creation of a cleanup section is bad for anyone that may want to read the article before December 2006. You don't know how many people want to read it. But I see the progress and work you are making and appreciate it, so I have an idea. I am going to restore the older version of the article on the actual Out of India theory page, and will create User:Sbhushan/OIT (I hope you don't mind that, and move the current thing you've got going into that). I hope you understand. By the way, I'll now make any changes I might have for the article on User:Sbhushan/OIT, if anyone else makes changes on Out of India theory, one of us should go and transfer them (if they are good edits) onto your OIT workspace. Nobleeagle [TALK] [C] 03:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Indigenious Aryan term of Bryant is associated with theory name by Dab to confuse readers about two theories for India. But Indo-Aryan Migration theory is not termed as a theory in it's article's name. Why ? Because then readers will understand IAM as some truth and IAT / OIT as some hypothesis or theory. Note that in IAT / OIT it's termed as hypothesis or theory , where as IAM is not. "Half truth" ! Same way Dab & Crculver are continuously deleting B.B. Lal 's links to his papers , Saraswati river's ref. in other Veda and Puranas etc. in IAM. Check it out. They just don't want to include it as B.B.Lal's papers are very well written with proofs & logic - as it's against IAT / IAM. WIN 05:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Then, why OIT page still finds Intro or History section as per Dab's view ? Then, please change it as per OIT view. OIT view was expressed by Sanskrit scholars when AIT was proposed but it was not `heard' in British Raj. For this point you can get good reference ( I remember Gidwani's book review ). Since you are very good in writing, please incorporate it in OIT.
I am not deleting any IAM supporting point and writing OIT point in IAM. I am against `Half Truth' or Negation or some Interpretation sounding like some fact. By incorporating B.B.Lal's papers in external links or adding that Saraswati river is mentioned in Yajurveda & Atharva Veda same as Rig-Veda & Saraswati river's less might or demise leading points are expressed in late Vedic Brahamans or in Mahabhrat is not without any ref. ( it's mentioned in Saraswati river article itself ). But,since it can give Full Truth understanding to readers, it's deleted in the name of `Bad English'. WIN 04:59, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
AIT/AMT
I saw your question at the AMT article. A migration scenario is today much more accepted than the invasion theory. There are still some minority views that believe in an invasion - which is discussed in the AIT article. (You may also find examples of such views at Stormfront).
The distinction between invasion and migration is not always very clear. This has been shortly discussed here (ch.3), here (ch.1.1) and here. --RF 19:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
Dab is deleting ref. points in IAM article. We can report WP:OWN for Dab's behaviour as asked by Geo on my talk page. WIN 11:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
RfC on Indian Mathematics
I thought you might be interested (at your convenience). Talk:Indian_mathematics#Request_for_comment:Indian_Mathematics Feedback is requested for a problem on the Indian mathematics page. The issue is disagreement between two users on whether entire versions should be reverted or better citations pointed out and procured on demand. Freedom skies| talk 11:10, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Indian mathematics
Greetings, I was involved in the RfC in Indian mathematics. My efforts were directed towards creating a version such as this one, as compared to the this, this and this version. My efforts initially began with removing misrepresentation of quotaions and then I tried providing some of the "citations needed" tags with actual citations. The situation resulted into an RfC, timed during my examinations, to which I could admittedly, not work on adequately. Fowler&fowler has asked me to work with him but since I am sitting my examinations and the article has been edited extensively since the RfC by other editors I no longer can keep up the pace. My exams will continue and after that I will be leaving, taking a few days off WP. I have reviewed my future with the Indian mathematics article, and have come to the conclusion that since I am under time constraints and am under such pressure in real life that adequate responses or editing actions on "Indian mathematics" are just not possible for me right now. I can't contribute to it in the manner that I usually would; it would be unethical to the extreme to ask the other editors, who have wished me well during my examination, to wait. The article is under the watch of many good editors and I see and hope that it's quality benefits from the present situation. Many regards, Freedom skies| talk 02:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
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You are edit-warring on Indigenous Aryans, and are in danger of violating WP:3RR. Further reverts will result in blocks. You keep inserting nonsensical arguments, in spite of painstaking explanations by several editors on talk. This is disruptive in itself, and if you continue in this vein, you may also be banned. Note that you may also be blocked for gaming the 3RR. If you genuinely cannot follow the debate on talk and feel you are bullied, I suggest you open an WP:RfC on the article for wider input: if you want to pursue the subject, this is your course of action, while further edit-warring will not only lead nowhere, but reinforce the appearence that you are consciously trolling the article. dab (𒁳) 17:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
- you are blocked for 48 hours. Fyi, see WP:AN/I#Sbhushan. dab (𒁳) 18:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
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