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[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] This is your '''only warning'''; if you make [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attacks]] on others again, you may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further notice'''. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people.<!-- Template:uw-npa4im --> '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 00:20, 23 August 2022 (UTC) |
[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] This is your '''only warning'''; if you make [[Wikipedia:No personal attacks|personal attacks]] on others again, you may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]] without further notice'''. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people.<!-- Template:uw-npa4im --> '''<span style="font-family: Arial;">[[User:Acroterion|<span style="color: black;">Acroterion</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Acroterion|<span style="color: gray;">(talk)</span>]]</small></span>''' 00:20, 23 August 2022 (UTC) |
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:You are a racist coward, unblock my account now. |
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:Acroterion, I'll ask you again: |
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:1) Are you Mulatto to be qualified & authoritative enough to tell millions of people how we should feel about the term: |
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:2) Are you Mulatto, as a bare minimum requisite, to be opining on the matter; |
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:3) Which scientific poll(s) have you conducted of any statistically significant English-speaking population size to determine that we feel it's an offensive term; |
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:4) Where are you from, where are you located, & what is your racial heritage; |
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:5) When did I tell you that I was the 'self-appointed spokesman for the group & term'? Or have I consistently presented to you that I AM Mulatto, I have the lived experiences that you do not nor could never have, that I've been involved in mixed-race socio-politics and organizations for over 20+ years, and that we demand a seat at the table to discuss any & everything pertaining to our group? |
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:Now, what we're demanding & requiring: |
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:1) Remove any and all negative connotations of the word; |
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:2) PROVE that word is offensive; |
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:3) PROVE that you know Mulattos and how we feel; |
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:4) PROVE that you've conducted (or can reference) a statistically significant poll to determine how my demographic feels about the term; |
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:5) PROVE that you've conducted (or can reference) a poll of English speakers around the world (since you seem to be fixated on English speakers) feel about the term (not that would matter, only what we feel about our terminology counts); |
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:5) Since you and the other editors here seem to feel that you are in some superior position to me & to the other Mulattos around the world to be able to control our narrative & tell us how we should feel about our terminology, PROVE IT. Explain where/how your delusional sense of power, control, & agency came to be, who appointed you, & where did you get your knowledge & information from? Where did you get the idea that Mulattos are supposed to kowtow, acquiesce, & remain quiet while you denigrate us, talk around us, & exclude us from our own conversation? |
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:4) PROVE, other than with an equally anecdotal, biased, & flimsy "definition" from Merrian-Webster & dictionary.com (whom are NOT authorities on the matter), who've also PROVIDED NO PROOF AS TO THE ETYMOLOGICAL ORIGIN of the word just as you have not, that it is fact an offensive word and not, as we maintain, a white & black racist *projection* onto the word so as to stigmatize it & the people for which is references. [[User:Melange6|Melange6]] ([[User talk:Melange6#top|talk]]) 00:46, 23 August 2022 (UTC) |
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Hello, Melange6, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits to the page Mulatto did not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and may have been removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.
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Please help me with... I am Mulatto. I am an authority on mixed-race issues & have been a part of the Multiracial Movement for 27 years. It is NOT a bad word and has never been. Black supremacist groups have made a concerted effort to attempt to cast disrepute & shame on the word in order to harass, target, & intimidate Mulattos into a black identity with the purpose of artificially bolstering their racial demographics & stealing Mulatto accomplishments, identity, personhood, pain, presence, etc. in order to increase their status, social presence & reach, & improve their racial perception by others. This is unacceptable & we cannot allow Wikipedia to continue to present the falsehood that Mulatto is an offensive & outdated term when I use it and many of us in the community use it as well. **If you are not Mulatto, you have NO RIGHT to tell us what we find offensive**. You also HAVE NO PROOF nor HAVE YOU OFFERED ANY PROOF of the etymology of the word, but the link to my slide provides proof of the etymology. THAT is what you need to be presenting to the world on this site. You give deference to actual mixed-part-black people whenever speaking on Mulatto issues, period. I would like to be your point of contact in that regard. Please let me know of any questions, I can provide you with my cell number, we can do a video meeting, whatever you'd like, but you *cannot* tell me, others like me, and the world at large that we should find our own colloquial terms offensive & you cannot exclude us from controlling our narrative & history. Melange6 (talk) 17:51, 19 August 2022 (UTC) Melange6 (talk) 17:51, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Please discuss any concerns about the Mulatto article on its talk page, Talk:Mulatto. Wikipedia articles summarize what independent reliable sources say about the topic. If you have such sources that say that the term is not regarded as offensive, please offer them there. 331dot (talk) 18:11, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Excuse me, I am a source. Your 'sources' for the false claim that Mulatto is an offensive word come from dictionary.com & Merriam-Websters who've provide NO ETYMOLOGICAL PROOF FOR THAT ASSERTION & **they are not Mulatto themselves**, so they are also therefore UNQUALIFIED TO BE MAKING SUCH A CLAIM as a result. Do you understand? Would you go to someone Chinese for 'proof' that a term is offensive to blacks, or would you give deference & power to blacks to explain how they feel about racial colloquials that apply to them? Or how about to blacks for an explanation & definition for a term that is offensive to Indians, or would you give deference to Indians to **tell you**, since they have the lived experience that you do not nor could you ever have, what language & terminology they find acceptable or condemnable? Understand? NO ONE from dictionary.com, Merriam-Websters, not Wikipedia has EVER conducted a scientific poll of the millions of Mulattos in this country about what they think of themselves & the term as it applies to them therein, have you? Defer to US! Not to dictionary.com or Merriam-Websters who had NO MULATTO INPUT into formulating THEIR definition of the word, that is the lesson here! Melange6 (talk) 18:21, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Please also read about editors with expertise in a field. 331dot (talk) 18:12, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
August 2022
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Mulatto. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. With special reference to this edit. Rsk6400 (talk) 19:43, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
- Listen, nevermind 'stay cool' when Wikipedia has been RACISTLY INSULTING US FOR DECADES! Wow! How is it that you don't recognize your own faults FIRST but instead try to deflect & blame-shift your wrongdoing to me?
- Allow me to FIX THE DEFINITION. I'm not the only one who wants the 'outdated & offensive' tag REMOVED and any insinuation to me or my people being 'mules' or 'mule-like' REMOVED. Why is that so hard for Wikipedia to understand, implement, & correct?
- Remove the lock so that I can correct the definition, or, PROVE BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT that you have the power to think us, to tell how to feel about our racial terminology, who gave you this authority, AND, that the term Mulatto, one of DOZENS OF OTHER RACIAL TERMS CREATED BY THE SPANIARDS to describe their mixed-race offspring & the offspring created by mixed-race people themselves, just so happens to be the ONLY ONE out of that bunch that relates this particular mix to an animal. I'll wait.
- Please, STOP BEING OPPRESSIVE here. Stop insulting us! Wow, the nerve you folks have here! This is ENTIRELY Wikipedia's fault, period! Melange6 (talk) 20:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on others again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Acroterion (talk) 00:20, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
- You are a racist coward, unblock my account now.
- Acroterion, I'll ask you again:
- 1) Are you Mulatto to be qualified & authoritative enough to tell millions of people how we should feel about the term:
- 2) Are you Mulatto, as a bare minimum requisite, to be opining on the matter;
- 3) Which scientific poll(s) have you conducted of any statistically significant English-speaking population size to determine that we feel it's an offensive term;
- 4) Where are you from, where are you located, & what is your racial heritage;
- 5) When did I tell you that I was the 'self-appointed spokesman for the group & term'? Or have I consistently presented to you that I AM Mulatto, I have the lived experiences that you do not nor could never have, that I've been involved in mixed-race socio-politics and organizations for over 20+ years, and that we demand a seat at the table to discuss any & everything pertaining to our group?
- Now, what we're demanding & requiring:
- 1) Remove any and all negative connotations of the word;
- 2) PROVE that word is offensive;
- 3) PROVE that you know Mulattos and how we feel;
- 4) PROVE that you've conducted (or can reference) a statistically significant poll to determine how my demographic feels about the term;
- 5) PROVE that you've conducted (or can reference) a poll of English speakers around the world (since you seem to be fixated on English speakers) feel about the term (not that would matter, only what we feel about our terminology counts);
- 5) Since you and the other editors here seem to feel that you are in some superior position to me & to the other Mulattos around the world to be able to control our narrative & tell us how we should feel about our terminology, PROVE IT. Explain where/how your delusional sense of power, control, & agency came to be, who appointed you, & where did you get your knowledge & information from? Where did you get the idea that Mulattos are supposed to kowtow, acquiesce, & remain quiet while you denigrate us, talk around us, & exclude us from our own conversation?
- 4) PROVE, other than with an equally anecdotal, biased, & flimsy "definition" from Merrian-Webster & dictionary.com (whom are NOT authorities on the matter), who've also PROVIDED NO PROOF AS TO THE ETYMOLOGICAL ORIGIN of the word just as you have not, that it is fact an offensive word and not, as we maintain, a white & black racist *projection* onto the word so as to stigmatize it & the people for which is references. Melange6 (talk) 00:46, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
ANI
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Acroterion (talk) 00:20, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
August 2022
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