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The Bete Amhara dispute
I am not removing the translation the translation is in the Wikipedia page why don’t you get that. I should be saying the same thing with you, both your logic and understanding is weak King Solomon is an Abrahamic figure, so for you to say “of the bible” seems inconsiderate. Second, like I said before you might as well change the Amhara people’s wiki page to “Free people” people. Honestly, just leave it as Bete Amhara. English Wikipedia or not, leave it as Bete Amhara, the translation is in the Bete Amhara page. Rogeman123 (talk) 12:23, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
The Solomonic dynasty were christian rulers of a Christian kingdom, can you acknowledge this fact? If so, in the context of the Solomonic dynasty, there's nothing wrong referring to Solomon as a biblicial figure, it is the correct context to put them in. Source back it up as House of Amhara. It is the literal translation, english wikipedia. You for some reason are removing the Bold translation of Bete Amhara, as if you don't want people to know it is translated as House of Amhara. Wikipedia is to inform, not to conceal information. I will keep reverting it back because your reasoning is poor and can't or won't contextualize Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 19:06, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
Yes the Solomonic dynasty were Christians rulers, and yes Solomon is a biblical figure. But you need to understand that Solomon is an Islamic and Jewish figure too. “King Solomon of the bible” why does anyone ever mention that phrase rather then “King Solomon”. No one says “King Solomon of the bible” because he isn’t just a biblical figure, so why don’t you get that? Show some respect to the other Abrahamic faiths. Bete Amhara means “House of Amhara” so why are you changing that? I am correcting your mistake not concealing. I told you this before if people would like to know the translation they can go to the Bete Amhara page. I have added the translation beside it. Rogeman123 (talk) 14:00, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
I responded to you on the Amhara people talk page, let's stick to one avenue where others can join.
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- Hello @Fuhghettaboutit: thank you for reviewing the page! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 17:37, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 18:44, 20 May 2021 (UTC)- Hello @Fuhghettaboutit: great that the page is accepted, but i have a better title in mind. title: List of musicians using Amharic vocals. That way you remove in their music which is unnecessary, since musicians is already in the title. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 20:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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Thanks for providing a source on Yekuno Amlak's claim on Solomonic descent. But the way you provided this source, we only know that someone said in 1986 in the journal Northeastafrican Studies on p. 11 that he indeed made that claim. That isn't quite enough for an inline citation. Please go to the trouble to find out who (author) said this in which article, and give us proper citation instead of a link to a dutch Google Books page. If you don't do that, you risk that this source (and the claim) will be removed again. This is your responsibility. LandLing 18:54, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
@LandLing First of all i reject you dictating what my responbility is. I added mulitple sources, there are a dozen of them. If you removed a multi-sourced statement, i will open a content dispute against you. Have a good day. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 19:16, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not dictating anything to you, I'm making you aware of the rules of Wikipedia. I will proceed according to these rules. LandLing 21:33, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
@LandLing if you suspect something nefarious open a section in a talk page, if not search the sources for yourself. Otherwise we could involve the Wikpedia community in a dispute resolution regarding the statement, remove it again, i will open a content dispute to resolve the matter. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 22:29, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
- Now I've done your homework for you. You really need to learn how to cite sources in Wikipedia in order to avoid this kind of situation in the future. In case you didn't notice - there never was a dispute between us on content, just on form. LandLing 22:50, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
I suggested on the Teahouse to Honestly, just try it. It's definitely an ambiguous case. If someone reverts it, then follow WP:BRD. If you like, you can point them back here and I'll take the blame :)
(section bolded). By the time you added the image back today [1], it had already been reverted twice [2] [3]. Per WP:BRD: Discuss the contribution, and the reasons for the contribution, on the article's talk page with the person who reverted your contribution. Don't restore your changes or engage in back-and-forth reverting.
(emphasis mine). Looking back I probably should not have suggested you do that to begin with. I feel bad for leading you astray a bit. While in general "just try it" is a Wikipedia guideline (WP:BOLD), I shouldn't have said to in this particular case, that was reckless of me and I should have looked further at the context behind it. Sorry. Leijurv (talk) 02:47, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- @Leijurv No need to apologize. I'm not starting a revert competition or a edit war xd. It was good it's get the conversation moving on a vague guideline, thanks for showing me the discussion. Instead of reverting i just went to User talk:Kolya Butternut talk page and pointing out that there was a ongoing discussion, that there's no consensus on collages, and he(and others) expands photomontages to collages in general, when that's no clear term in WP:NOETHNICGALLERIES. I find the Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Images#MOS guidelines for a collage as the lead image / infobox image more appropriate to discuss it because this clearly moved beyond a single article. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 03:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, good to hear!
It was good it's get the conversation moving on a vague guideline
I very much agree! :) Leijurv (talk) 03:28, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Ok, good to hear!
Amhara people source from WP:RX
Hi Dawit! Back in April, I sent you an email with a seven-page PDF from Source Encyclopaedia Aethiopica: Volume 1 about the Amhara people, after your request at the Resource Exchange. Did you happen to download that to your own computer and if so, would you mind emailing it back to me? I've unfortunately deleted it on my end and another editor is interested in it as well. Thanks, DanCherek (talk) 19:13, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Hello Dan! Yes it's part of my collection now :) I have sent you the pages via mail! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 19:38, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
- Lifesaver. Thank you so much! DanCherek (talk) 19:39, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
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Concern regarding Draft:List of Amhara organizations
Hello, Dawit S Gondaria. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:List of Amhara organizations, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 19:01, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Dawit S Gondaria: In order to keep the draft there, you only need to edit it once in every six months. Platonk (talk) 16:05, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Platonk: thnx for the reminder. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 00:14, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
Note on pings
You need {{U|力}} to ping me. [[U|力]] just creates a link to the article on the letter U. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 20:30, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
- 力 Oops my bad, thanks for the note. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 20:32, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
Redirects rather than AfDs
Dawit S Gondaria: As an example of what I have suggested before, my last two edits show how to change a individual event article to a redirect into the timeline article. This edit sets an anchor (landing spot) in the timeline page directly above the material covering the event. And this edit blanks the individual event article and makes a redirect pointing to the new anchor in the timeline article. It is important that the two match up text-wise; I opted to use the old article title as the anchor name.
In this case, there was no material from the old article needing to be moved/copied/merged into the target article. If there was, I would have made a separate edit in the timeline article. And if I had copied content, I would note it in the edit summary.
The reason I did not use this method for Shimelba massacres and instead AfD'd it was because after evaluating it, there were no reliable sources saying it happened. I wound up deleting the information from both the timeline article and the casualty article, effectively removing anything to which I could have pointed a redirect. Hence, the AfD method.
I know you'll probably still find other articles to AfD, but I wanted to show you the method for using redirects when it is the more appropriate method. Platonk (talk) 22:48, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
- @Platonk. Thank you very much for the suggestion and the examples! i will look into it Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 21:20, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
Inch by inch
We're getting it cleaned up bit by bit. Good job on recognizing the problems in Amhara Region. I'm slowly working my way through the massacre articles a few at a time and, where appropriate, I'm turning them into redirects to the timeline article. Eventually we'll be able to clean up the timeline and casualty articles, and any remaining references to atlas and tghat. I wonder if we need to call for a close on that RfC re Tghat; the discussion seems to have run its course and no one has commented in 9 days. I'm finding WP more calm since the sock was removed; I couldn't keep up with his speed of creations. Platonk (talk) 05:38, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Platonk thanks, i'm actually so done reading about massacres, but for a times a day/week i will be going to Rastakwere contributions and see where else he vandalized. Yesah a decision on Tghat would be nice. Yes it's too much, and goodriddance. I salute your tenacity and endurance. Thank you! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 08:08, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- This tool is helpful to identify which articles Rasta created and haven't yet been deleted. It doesn't, however, show redirects Rasta created, nor does it tell you which ones have been changed from articles to redirects. My best source of finding more of these is to scroll through the timeline articles looking for the "main article" section hatnotes. When I convert a spam-article to a redirect, I re-purpose the 'main article' hatnote (visible) into an anchor (invisible), therefore any main-article hatnote still visible is ripe for my next target. Platonk (talk) 08:25, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
- Platonk Timesaving measure nice!! I lost you after that anchor, hatnote :P but yeah go get it Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 15:00, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Invitation to WikiProject Ethiopia
If you haven't already done so, you might want to add Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Ethiopia to your watchlist. Platonk (talk) 21:20, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
- Added to my watch, thanks! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 21:43, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
Thank you for your fight against vandalism on Wikipedia. Keep up the good work. ― Kaleeb18Talk 03:32, 10 December 2021 (UTC) |
- Kaleeb18 Thanks! Question, how do you give barnstars? Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 04:05, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Kaleeb18: Never mind found it, thanks again! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 04:06, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- your welcome ― Kaleeb18Talk 13:31, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Kaleeb18: Never mind found it, thanks again! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 04:06, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
Tips on brackets and braces
Just some tips to improve your talk-page edits.
- If you're linking to a Wikipedia article title, use 2 square brackets on each end. Example: [[Coca-Cola]]
- If you're linking to a URL (in or out of Wikipedia), use 1 square bracket on each end. Example: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola] or [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Coca-Cola&diff=1059381163&oldid=1058271469] or [https://www.coca-cola.com/]
- If you're quoting something and using Template:Tq, use 2 curly braces on each end. Example: {{Tq|The sky is blue.}}
Platonk (talk) 08:53, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
- Platonk thanks for the tips, keep that in mind. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 09:27, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
December 2021
Hello, I'm Ue3lman. Wikipedia is written by people who have a wide diversity of opinions, but we try hard to make sure articles have a neutral point of view. Your recent edit to Lalibela seemed less than neutral and has been removed. If you think this was a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. User:67.185.158.250 is right. Just because the Ethiopian government calls them terrorists does that mean that they are. Adding biased sourcing (like Borkena) to push your pov is not allowed. Reuters is good enough. Ue3lman (talk) 06:00, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- Hello @Ue3lman: you are mistaken so is the IP, clarify why you think Borkena source is biased according to you, does that include the Israeli source which says Tigrayan forces invaded Amhara region? It's not driven my pov as you and the ip claim, but stating the obvious. Reuters or American media don't get to decide who is or who is not a terrorist. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 06:09, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think I need to clarify. It's pretty obvious just by looking at any article they make about the war. You say "stating the obvious". How is it? Because the Ethiopian government said so? If you're able to say tghat is a biased source, I don't see how you can't say Borkena is too. You're going to have to be more clearer on what Israeli source you're talking about because I don't see it. Ue3lman (talk) 07:01, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Ue3lman: you should clarify instead of cherry picking terms. Fxempire is a Israeli news source and they basically repeating what Reuters reported in more clear terms, equating Borkena with Tghat is a bridge too far, but you can take that source out, i can also find other non Ethiopian sources that calls the TPLF for what it is, a terrorist group. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 07:26, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
Your recent editing history at Lalibela shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.
Hey! I hope you're well. I just wanted to touch base on a couple of edits over on Habesha peoples. The lead paragraph has been extremely contentious, so we've ironed it out quite a lot on the Talk page. Basically, there's no one meaning of "Habesha" that we can consider basic. There's a historical development. We've tried to express the range of usage. I don't imagine that the paragraph is the best possible version, but because this has been so contentious it would probably be best to hash out an improved version on the Talk page.
With regard to the other edit, I manually reverted because the sentence cited an actual source. The info we provide shouldn't be different from the source that we cite. If you want to change it, you should probably replace it with another reliable source. However, given that you disagree with what the cited source says, the new version would probably need to reflect the existence of multiple points of view. Unless, that is, there are reliable sources that should lead us to believe that the current version reflects a fringe usage.
Take care! Pathawi (talk) 03:57, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Pathawi: Hello i responded to you on the talk page, and the Gerard Prunier source is clear, i have read it, and it's not correctly used as it is, so i suggest you revert your manuel revert, or we have a content dispute to settle. Take care! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 04:12, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- Great. I've replied. I think we can continue the conversation there so that it's easy to track for other editors. Pathawi (talk) 04:16, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Pathawi: Hello i responded to you on the talk page, and the Gerard Prunier source is clear, i have read it, and it's not correctly used as it is, so i suggest you revert your manuel revert, or we have a content dispute to settle. Take care! Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 04:12, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
Requests for protection
I'm not going to decline them, but it's unlikely anyone is going to protect 9 articles for sporadic sock activity. If another sock appears, simply report it to WP:AIV. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:45, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Ohnoitsjamie: Okay thnx, i'll just report to the ANI, it's the same sock doing it every few weeks. Dawit S Gondaria (talk) 16:53, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
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