User talk:Hoverfish

Gallery

Your pictures look really good, I can finally see them. I should have pushed you to start contributing pictures earlier, you now have quite a bit! Keep up the good work. I'll be starting to work on infoboxes again really soon, I just want to correct the Ben Stiller page for GA first. I'm hoping we can try for at least 650 infoboxes left by the end of this month. --Nehrams2020 01:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

ESB

My only concern about working on Argentine films is that there is a MASSIVE amount of work to do on Argentina alone let alone the rest of the world and it will be years before it is all covered. Ideally there should be a WikiProject:Argentine cinema of its own with tens of users dedicated to concentrating on Argentine cinema adding films developing stubs into full articles and writing articles on actors, directors, cinematographers, editors, score musicians, producers etc. as with India cinema. If this project is to develop it needs to become more specialized in this way. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:16, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Oh I almost forgot to ask you. Do you think it would be a good idea to document all births and deaths related to cinema in categories. E.g cinema people articles for example Amelia Bence. [[:Category:1919 births would also go in Category:1919 cinema births. I have noticed that imdb have got a day by day timeline of each year from January to December from like 1890 to 2007 documenting births and deaths of world cinema.

E.g the pages would be part of the years in film pages e.g

1919 in film:Births

• January 1
• January 2 Amelia Bence -Argentine actress
• January 3
• January 4 Joe Bloggs - Serbian film director

1919 in film:Deaths

• January 1
• January 2
• January 3 Sydney Ayres - US film director
• January 4
• February 10 Mikko Janninen -Finnish screenwriter

Its just an idea Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually its probably best they remain on the main cinema pages until they develop into longer lists. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:34, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Stub sorting

Hi there! If you add any kind of sortkey to the template code it messes up the order. The only way to get stubs to sort correctly within astub category (i.e. Category:Music documentary film stubs), is to use the new DEFAULTSORT feature on each article. If you put {{DEFAULTSORT:Noun, Article}} on an article, it will sort by that order no matter what category it's in. Until now stub sorters just put up with the lack of proper alpha order in the stub cats. Let me know if you need more info... Her Pegship (tis herself) 21:05, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

P.S. You might notice that the articles have re-sorted without the "*" again - it just takes a couple of null edits to get the template to re-apply with the correct code. Also, I wouldn't worry too much about assigning a "regular" category that matches the stub category; once the article is no longer a stub, presumably the correct categories will have been applied. Cheers! Her Pegship (tis herself) 21:07, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Village Pump

I'll keep an eye on the discussion, I really hope it works. As long as it's showing a spoiler warning before and after the long synopsis, I don't think there should be a problem for the old browsers. By the way, we're doing really good with the infoboxes, I think we have knocked off 150 or so since we started. --Nehrams2020 17:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I've been waiting to add the movie posters for right now and solely working on infoboxes and the necessary cats. I'm hoping that when the newsletter goes out at the end of the month we'll get more volunteers and adopters of the letters. I did about 10-15 yesterday, and I'll probably stay at that rate as we whittle it down. I'm off to class, I'll work on some when I get back. --Nehrams2020 18:02, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

That'd be a good idea to get a list of willing programmers and possibly admins as well to assist for the project in coding, deleting images, etc. I don't want to dump a project off on another editor unless he/she is willing to do it. I'd do it myself, but have no clue how to do it. I guess ideas are all I can do at this point. --Nehrams2020 09:01, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

I think that there is a < noinclude > format that could possibly prevent it from entering it into a category but I'm not sure. --Nehrams2020 09:07, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Bummer, that's all I could think of. Well at least those two have programming knowledge and can help improve it. --Nehrams2020 08:12, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Outreach and "needs infobox"

Definitely, I'm not that familiar with that discussion, so I would appreciate it if you would do that. I am just about to add some information about the development of a Film Board and a Tech Board for our project. I am not sure I understand your comment about the new Argentine films... Cbrown1023 19:44, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your dab request

Well, there's a few options.

1. I (or you) simply remove the songs and proceed to make it a film article.
2. We make a separate Beautiful Girl (film) page and link to it from Beautiful Girl.
3. We create Beautiful Girl (disambiguation) and move the songs over there along with a link back to Beautiful Girl, which itself gets something like
   For other uses, see Beautiful Girl.
   .

Since there are a number of significant artists with songs by that title (adding Bing Crosby and George Harrison to those already listed), there's a good chance that someday an actual article will turn up on at least one of them. Since this was not a particularly significant film, I think letting people get to the article via a dab page is perfectly fine. So my suggestion is to go with option #2. It will leave, admittedly, a pretty weak dab page at this point, but I think in the long run, it will require the least reworking. Let me know what you think.Planetneutral 19:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

Montreal film fest awards

Sorry but I'd much rather continue to create and edit articles on film and filmmakers than list the MWFF awards. This festival has declined in international stature as well and I don't believe an award from the Montreal fest is all that notable.Shawn in Montreal 03:49, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Village pump

I'm not really interested in the discussion about proper synopsis length. However, I am interested in the template issues you mentioned. --PhantomS 04:24, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Canadian film list and notability

Hi, I don't know how closely you're following things at User talk:Ernst Stavro Blofeld now that you've archived, so I wanted you to know I've brought up notability again and referenced you. Shawn in Montreal 16:27, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'm waiting to see Bolfeld's reply re your suggestion of a notability column, though. I see little value in the "date of release" column, and I think it's empty for a good reason. Thanks, Shawn in Montreal 18:40, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

One more thing, as to how to go about instituting a notability/remarks column, my inclination is just to delete the column heading with Date of release and substitute the new header. Problem is, I gather Bolfeld's apparently been creating many such lists and he may have objections to me altering the table grid. I'm pretty non-confrontational (it's the Canadian in me, maybe) and I'm reluctant to just change the thing. I'd rather wait to see what he has to say. Shawn in Montreal 18:46, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Hi there. Don't know if you've followed today's discussion but User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld has proposed a 4-column set up, combining notability, genre AND release date all in one column. I think it works. I see you'd removed Release date -- are you proposing to take the table back to 5 columns, or just striking release date entirely? Thanks, Shawn in Montreal 16:46, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

True, we had this discussion previously and I'd agreed with you. Then User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld explained that he had in mind a plan to, at some point, create some mind of chronology by actual release date. I'm not quite sure how that would work and I suggest he explains what he has in mind. If the release dates don't serve any notable purpose than the year column at left WOULD suffice, and we can limit the right column to just Notability and genre. User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld, please expand on your plan.... Thanks, Shawn in Montreal 16:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I think I get. I'm a little mixed up as to what's proposed. Yes, your idea sounds fine and I think Blofeld's in agreement, too, so please try it and see. Shawn in Montreal 17:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I think it looks fine. I was a little concern that it might prove to complex for me but I see that all I need to do is make sure the "valign="top"" is correctly positioned. User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld should see it, of course, as I'm pretty flexible on the column issue, as you've no doubt noted, and he's much more into the design and layout aspect. Thanks, Shawn in Montreal 18:32, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Stub box for Film template

I forgot to post to your talk page that I attached the message box to the template. You should be able to see a sample on your notebook page. The film template sans protection tag is at User:PhantomS/sandbox2 and the message box is at User:PhantomS/sandbox3. --PhantomS 08:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

That's great that it is finished. So does it appear when an article is a stub or do we have to transclude it using AWB or something? --Nehrams2020 17:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Alright, I get it, I tested it on your notebook page and it appeared just like you said. That will save us a lot of work indeed. I think we should change the last line stating that the template will be removed, to "the template will automatically be removed" (once it switches to start or above of course). So what's the next step, I'm sure making it an actual template? Do we have to get this approved or anything? --Nehrams2020 17:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I usually have problems with multitasking as well. I looked back at the discussion (in the most recent archive) and it seems everybody was in favor of it. Of course when I say everybody, I mean me, you, Cbrown1023, and our two programmers. But since nobody brought up any objection to it, I don't foresee any problems with it. After all, it is only here to improve the articles. If they don't like it, they can upgrade the article to start, and away it goes. I'm off to class again, but thanks for all your help in getting this to work and helping to implement it. It will be great to see the template on all the stub pages and hopefully improvement in articles over time. Once it is implemented, I'll mention it in the newsletter so the rest of the members know about it. --Nehrams2020 17:50, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I placed the message in {{Upgrading needed}}. As for the changes to the Film template code, it's only one line. Just search for 'Upgrading needed' on my sandbox2 page to find it. --PhantomS 19:21, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Fistful of Questions (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Greetings, sorry that you've gotten sucked into this. User:Mactabbed has been defiantly evading his ban through the usage of sockpuppets. When an individual is banned and edits as a sockpuppet it is common practice to revert their edits to enforce the ban regardless of the edits' appearance as "good" or not. Other users are welcome to establish any seemingly good edits but those edits then become the responsibility of that re-establishing editor. That said, I would encourage you not to do that as it'll just encourage User:Mactabbed/User:Maior to continue to disrupt Wikipedia with these shenanigans. Note that the e-mail you recieved from this sockpuppet = Maculas. This is just the latest in "Mac" labeled names this individual has used. Besides User:Mactabbed there's also User:Mactabilis. (→Netscott) 09:01, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

By country lists

Hi Hoverfish, I've just seen your messages since a note doesn't appear on mine when a message is dropped. Thank-you for your nice wishes both for the New Year and for my birthday, it was just a surprise for me. I hope everything is going good at the films wiki project. I've read the letter too and you can not know how ashamed we feel about this Hrant Dink assasination and of course embarrassed that he is a Turk doing this ugly act; actually nothing else then a traitor. --Bahar (Spring in Turkish) ✍ 10:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes if you could somehow intergrate the date into the year it would look more profesional have a go I know you did a good job on those cinema templates. I feel it importnt and useful for the lists to be ordered by date of release -more specific and knoweldgeable but also tells us when the film premiere was. Have a go Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I figured adjusting the first column would bloat it too wide this is why I figured it was best at the end where there is space. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I also feel it more professional to reference the work. For example on List of Canadian films:1980s on the 1985 film Joshu Now and Then clearly you cannot write all 5 award wins and 7 nominations in the table so I have linked it externally to the award table. I would hope as this develops from trivial looking lists to important very useful cinema documents that each film of note will have an important awards table in the articles. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Other than that it can redirect to 7th Genie Awards on wikipedia itself - but I feel this is better in a table of some kind. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:39, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I have found a way to break a skinny column in with the date see List of Canadian films:1960s without bloating the table. The question is before I go any further should this column go before the title or after it before the direcotr or in the end column?. In my view it should go between the title and the director as it distracts away from the title at the very beginning Ernst Stavro Blofeld 19:33, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

my gut feeling on this is that the date would look best on the end column. For example for many films the exact date is not known and can just be left out - I beleive it is the least important of the other info but a final column for the date I feel is useful. If you agree I can adjust my timeline template and adjust what I have done already - I would rather sort this now rather than have to waste time adjusting it later. If we can agree on a fixed format for all the lists then I know I can continue with confidence that it has the "seal of approval".

I am thinking that where the date doesn't apply I can add a slash to fill in the gaps -readers will also understand then that the date was not fixed - I'll keep it next to the year I think as you said the title is in bold, one thing though if you are going to announce it I would prefer it was anounced in relation to all of the template:filmsbycountry lists -austria, canada and argentina are just the ones that have been started so far and are just beginning and I don't want to feel pressure they must look completely full and complete asap! See ya. I'll fix my template nowErnst Stavro Blofeld 19:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I just wasn't happy with that date column within the table it looked too full. How about the lay out looks like List of Canadian films:2000s, sub sectioned by year rather than one huge table. That way under each year the date could replace the year at the side in the first column -it looks very similar now to the page you showed me earlier and I feel it easier to understand by year Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:03, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I also do agree with you both about the date but if it is split as I have shown I feel it looks much better in the first column -the year is not needed in the tables as it is sub sectioned by year anyway But I can't get the lines to go across! How do I do this? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:57, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

For example on the list of List of Canadian films:2000s rather than have the year now as the first column replace it with the dates but it needs lining all the way acrossErnst Stavro Blofeld 21:59, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

ah well done - I will fix the header to release rather than date -also have you notcied how much more room there is without the templates further down the page? If I remove the north american cinema one (this is connected on Cinema of Canada page anyway and replace the vertical Canada list template with a horizontal box there should be room for one more column which I feel is missing which I know nehrams and several others though was a good idea, -studio of production Ernst Stavro Blofeld 22:07, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

It think the 2000 films on the page now has one column too many -how about genre has its own column but the last column becomes Studio/Notability instead of Genre/ Notability (and yes it looks much better with a space between them)Ernst Stavro Blofeld 22:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Congrats your help is very much appreciated. I reckon if certain long titles and awards is sorted with a page break or shortened using pop-ups we can can get in all the columns horizontally Ernst Stavro Blofeld 22:34, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

hey good morning are we on the same wavelength or what! I was just about to restore it! The reason I took it way was becuase of the bloating but now it is sub structured its absolutely fine! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 08:53, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

First of all I want to standardize the canadian tables. However for the lists where there are only one or two per country and only a few per decade I won't bother with the dates yet. It is only as they develop e.g 3 or more films per year the tables will become like Canada 2000s with the dates first. OK? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 08:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Well it should try to be in chrono order but if there are only two or three films (1 in some cases) as yet it won't matter till they develop. I live in Barry, Wales (bad article hasn't even got a locator map! ) near Cardiff. which is only 38 miles from England- Yesterdy I uploaded my pictures from Porthkerry Park and Viaduct the main. Also Bristol Channel pic with the rainbow is mine. I am a keen photographer, Llantwit Major Beach, Wenvoe St Andrews Major some local articles and photos I added. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 09:05, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Template:Argentinefilms
I have adapted new navigation templates to look exactly like the regional ones - for Canada and Argentina and all the country multi page lists will have a template like this. Each new template now has the large film image and the Cinema of with the list underneath. I would prefer only the one template down the side as e.g it connects to Cinema of Argentina this then of course connects to the regional. These pages are intenede to be extensions of the main Cinema of pages - so the regional should be removed - the master template at the bottom connects to other countries in the region. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

remove the other template that says CInema of United States etc. for the lists. The template now connects to the cinema of page where the regional template for the cinema of pages is Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:44, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

E.g on List of Argentine films:1920s only the one Argentine template for the lists. The two clutter it too much Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:46, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

It can remain on the main list pages though e.g List of Argentine films because as this develops I reckon I can replica the regional cinema boxes with the regional list equivalent to fit in, e.g List of Colombian films List of Brazilian films in identical appearance to the cinema of pages -showing it is part of the series. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

yes I agree too many on thhat page I have taken out the side one the horizontal one is better for the main page as it covers all aspects Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

yes its best to limit the number of templates keep it as one for the mulitple page lists one for the overall cinema. the skinny horizontal plate I created for the overall cinema is on the main Argentina page and looks fine. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 14:15, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I figured two or three of the major films from each year to illustrate moments in cinema history would be ok. They are illustrating the important films in question Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

I have to keep reminding myself this is suposed to be a free encyclopedia. Wikipedia does have its flaws in this I mean a major part of cinema is imagery - media that helps gain an understanding of the subject. But they aren't violating any more than images in the Cinema pages are? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:17, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Your probably right though. How about just one image per year not into a gallery box but at the beginning at the right - I'm sure that would be ok? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:38, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey I have just realised why Shawn is interested notably in short docmentraies - he works for the National Film Board of Canada! Ernst Stavro Blofeld 15:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

For the clever and encouraging note. Her Pegship (tis herself) 20:07, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Stand and deliver

I was thinking the 31st with AWB... Cbrown1023 21:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Film template

What happened with my previous post and then its removal is that I first requested comments when the code for the 'editing guidelines' box had been redone. However, I then decided to spend a considerably longer time with the 'more information' section, which has more complicated (and therefore buggier) code. After finishing that, I decided to announce my changes on the talk page, since it appeared that all of the new code worked correctly in the sample without any regressions. --PhantomS 14:49, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

The stub upgrading box was never touched; therefore, it will display the same as it did before. --PhantomS 14:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey some of my newest films I felt like starting show no boundaries this is global!! See Aa Ab Laut Chalen and Auzaar (Bollywood) Nizhalkuthu (Malayalam), and Darkness in Tallinn (Estonian)! Check out the curves on the women of Barbarian Queen!The leading women was also in the A-team. I have found a quicker way to filter down the notable lists now and have eached M now for Argentina. As soon as it is done I will sort them into years on my User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld/Film sorting user page and complete the lists entirely. If red links start to add up I'll blacken them out until I start them asap. The good thing is that users are starting to appear from many of the countries across the world -we know already Wide Kwai takes care of Thailand, Shawn, Canada, another user Austria but I have found LuigiBob interested in starting Latin films , someelese with Portuguese and a user who I helped make the article a pictured did you know Cathedral Saint-Peter Saint-Paul is from Bulgaria and is adding several from Bulgaria. he speaks Bulgarian and has watched the movies himself! Its terrific wikipedia is so huge that is can draw in people for every field imaginable. I hope soon it will grow so each major country has a Wiki cinema project like India Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:58, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I see you have been doing the rounds on adding the film templates and adding info boxes. Good. But for every U.S film you see can you add Category:American films as you said there are only about 9/10 of US films tagged as American and Category:English-language films. If they can categorize 150,000 living people in Category:Living people then I don't see it as a problem. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:30, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes this is what I mean put every American film in one American category this is fine - this way they will be easier to find. I did think before that in a few years time it might have been better for it structured as I said but as it doesn't cause a strain on the server in one category then I back it to stay, And trust me you won't be getting any major changes from me from now on without major consultation! Too stenuous!! See yaErnst Stavro Blofeld 18:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I haven't added the infoboxes to his films since I don't know where the ones he created are at yet (probably good for me). I think I spent over two and a half hours going through the filmographies and adding film, infobox, and image requests to too many films. Once I finished, I had jumped the infobox count up back to almost where it was when we started. The worse thing was that I saw that there are notable directors right above them that probably have twenty or more films each, but I'll wait until we get under 400 or so before I start that. I'm hoping that when the newsletter is sent out that more people will join in to help with the infoboxes. I looked on Blofeld's page and saw that you wanted to complete 10 infoboxes a day. That's a great goal, and I'm trying to meet that as well (either by completing 10 infoboxes/images). I removed myself from the letters I adopted since I wanted to do whatever letter I wanted. I feel guilty adding so many requests, so I better start getting rid of them. I appreciate your efforts in helping out, and I'm glad that there are so many other volunteers who are dedicated to this. When you count the pages with infobox requests for the WP:Films page, do you use AWB? If so, I always subtract one less than what they give me as there is one listed on some Wikipedia page some where, not in the article namespace. OK, I'm talking to much, when I should get to a few more requests before bed. Later. --Nehrams2020 07:59, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

If you like I will only create the new articles with the info boxes from now on - it does save effort later - most I have started do have info boxes but there are about 20 or so Argentine films in the middle of the A list in Category:Argentine films which I wanted to start very quickly to get this going. And the majority of my films have the film template label in the talk page Ernst Stavro Blofeld 10:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The films without an info box I started are listed in User:Ernst Stavro Blofeld/Blofeld's Secret Note Pad. -gradually I'll add the info boxes. Now this is off and running though it is easier to start with the film box from the start -easier to track and better for you all. The good thing though is as I am filtering the Argentine lists I am beginning to get a very good understanding of Argentine cinema - there are a handful of key direcotrs and actors which turn up on almost every film of note . I have listed them on the same page -When these are started it will remove tons of red links from any films articles and on the lists themselves Ernst Stavro Blofeld 13:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Yes most of the films I have ever started on wikipedia always have an info box I think you know anyway it was just that few and maybe several other stray that will just need an infobox. Most of those sub stubs I haven't checked the www.acceder.buenosaires.arg site yet for images so they can be improved a lot even without researhcing. I just started Besos Brujos a classical Argentine film it takes a bit more time but quality of the stub is much better i.e better a stub than a sub-stub. It is far easier also to track then. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 16:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

It is good though that each new article is starting to have links -the cinema oof Argentina is beginning to fit together already - I put a bit more effort into Roberto Escalada yesterday and I really feel quite pleased when I can write in those blue links. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:01, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Muhammed

I would have thought so as well, however, there has been a religious matter before and this is another similar one... I guess we should remove it so it is not like the Muhammed cartoon controversy... Cbrown1023 18:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I think we shouldn't include a repesentation of Muhammad here or in other articles pertaining to Islam. If it is for purely informative reasons that we include it, has anybody ever depicted Muhammad (or even Jesus for that matter) in a way that conveys their actual historical appearance, or is it some artist's imaginative point of view? It may be that policy and guidelines do permit its inclusion, but I am affraid that doing so would be like criticizing or opposing Islamic values as such. I really wish this wouldn't be a problem to anyone, but in this case I think we would be fueling an already aggravated situation and will endanger alining Wikipedia with one side of the (cultural?) conflict. If this is indeed our purpose, I too will be involuntarily taking part as a contributor to this encyclopedia. Thank you for your attention. Hoverfish Talk 21:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

I have only two words to say in response. Thank you. (God bless you). --- ALM 16:47, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Olive branch

Hi Hoverfish, Thank you for the olive branch. That was very thoughtful and I really enjoy it. Sincerely, --BostonMA ^talk 23:15, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Egyptian cinema

I have recruited another member to our film team User:Anas Salloum who is concentrating on Egyptian cinema and if I may say so doing a great job too. Please welcome him offically. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Geia sou Hoverfish! Thanks for welcoming me. :) ← ANAS ^Talk? 12:05, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

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WP:Films Newsletter

The January 2007 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. Nehrams2020 06:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Infobox

Why did remove infoboxes on the pages like Bhakta Prahlada (1931 Telugu film)? mlpkr 10:32, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thankyou for your changes. I just noticed yoru changes on talk pages before sending earlier message. Realted question, is it okay to download cover pages from the web, or do I need to scan a dvd/vhs cover myself? Also lot of websites that sells movies have images and I am not really sure whether they themselves own them, since all images look same. mlpkr 11:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

I was wondering should all Indian films be tagged as belonging to WikiProject Film as well? because nearly every film I have seen from India on wikipedia is only tagged as Indian cinema. If so whenever I view an Indian film I can casually add the film template Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:49, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Award boxes / tables

Absoutely I think this shuld be an intergral part of the article. We should create an official table for wikiproject for awards which everyone can use on every film winning or film nominated article. Wonder why it was rejected?? That's odd. See El Faro I started earlier. I was asking Nehrams if one existed because the film was nominated or won like 10 or so awards and couldn't convey the info in text. I suggest an award section should exist on all articles that have won awards with a nice award table Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

It wouldn't be an info box like the film info box it would be a table like on the Lists of Canadian films but with headings like Year Award win nomination along the top and Award type vertical e.g Oscar awards then Golden Globes whatever underneath etc. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

It wouldn't clutter the page at all it would look fine something like this:

Awards

Year	Award	Win	Nomination
1998	Golden Globe		Best Catalan actress: Ingrid Rubio
	Montreal World Film Festival	Best Film Best Editing Best Casting	Best new actor Best screenwriting

A small table in the appropriate article would look good to summarize the awards of the film in question. -providing important info clearly. I don't mean change any format or anything or try to change anything anyone has done with awards - just a way of providing the award information better in individual film articles. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

There we are see El Faro now. I think the table looks really good and provides the missing info well. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 22:42, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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Arabic..

Geia sou again (that's the only word I've learned in my trip to Greece six years ago). Having problems diplaying Arabic, eh? Try changing the character encoding in your browser (found in the 'view' menu in Firefox) to Unicode or Arabic if that doesn't work. If neither fix the problem, try installing Arabic to your system (you'll need your Windows disk for that). Actually Sorirart Biro'aitak is kind of wrong - it's spelled here like spelling 'Glad to see you', 'Glud to se you'. Get the picture? :D Thanks for your encouragement and all the best with your work. :) ← ANAS ^Talk? 08:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I like snowing films better

Yeah, it's already jumped up to 900 film infobox requests. As long as members at the WP:Indian Films are adding infoboxes too, I guess it's alright. Perhaps we should put a message on their project's talk page (and also WP:Horror) about assisting in the infoboxes (plus now there is a WP solely for infoboxes). I'll get to sending out messages tomorrow. Now I know how to deliver the newsletter using AWB, so I can help if the main deliverer is busy. Congratulations on the Random Smiley Award, I think a lot of us film members received it. For right now, I have a few big essays coming up (and the Super Bowl!) and I want to devote my time to the Oklahoma City bombing article to get it to GA. So I'll probably be laying off the film tasks for a couple weeks until the article is done and school slows down. I'll still update stuff, remove vandalism, add templates, and watch the progress, but I probably won't be adding too many infoboxes. I'll still be here for discussion, so let me know if there is something you want me to help with or vote on. --Nehrams2020 08:28, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

ESBlofeld

Hey thanks my friend. I know it'll take a bit of time for you all to get to know me but I promise you I always mean well and want to work at building this into something great! I really appreciate your help -very good coordinator.

All the best I'm off to bed now feeling severley bloated had a MASSIVE pasta. prawns and veg. for dinner with a spicy muschroom-tomato source -repeating on me!! My eyes are stinging me! Goodnight and thanks again Ernst Stavro Blofeld 23:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey see my work on The Temptress starring Greta Garbo. I have built it from the tiny stub I have seen started. I am going to concentrate on this at the minute -it has bags of potential I reckon for a main page Did You KNow? and maybe a collaboration of the week? I love Greta Garbo -It will need a great deal of work but there is an enormous amount of info on it whicih can be referencedErnst Stavro Blofeld 17:35, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

well that's funny because many films I have seen e.g Jurassic Park (film) main cast actors are in bold. Is this against our guidelines? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 17:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

I have added the full synopsis now from several sources combined but I need a little more copy editing labelling the pcitures to accompany the story then start on other aspects e.g goofs etc. This wil look very good soon enough Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:10, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

main section bit better nowErnst Stavro Blofeld 18:14, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

hey I'm only half done! I ham adding sections on the filming from a number of different sources which I need to copy edit into a combined total resource article. I need to expand the dvd section too I have found screenshots of the dvd menu - the film was released with several other films in one and I'll talk about this too . Its taking shape Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:56, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

silent films are in the public domain to I can be a bit more liberal with the images but I won't upload many more Ernst Stavro Blofeld 18:57, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

phew I just worked my socks off! No more work today! I've done the bulk of it now on The Temptress but there is till a lot of info I can add filling out the bottom. Not bad eh? Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:29, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

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Ask for help

Hi, Would you please do me a favor? I have seen you are a member of Film wiki project. Then I would like to ask you to take a look at Abbas Kiarostami, an article that I am currently working on. I would like to have your comments to improve the article. Any helps will be very much appreciated. Thanks a lot for your time. Sangak 19:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I too have just given him some advice over the bias! Bulky article that could look pretty good if neutrality edited and sourced . I am taking it easy today browsing through wikiepdia - the more you browswe the more HUGE you realise it isErnst Stavro Blofeld 19:54, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Hoverfish for your suggestion. I will do it right now. Take care. Sangak 19:57, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

I joined Wikiproject Bio about 2 weeks ago I think but am only loosely acquainted with it Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:03, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Well I strongly beleive that actors and directors and film go hand in hand but of ocurse it is WikiProject Films not cinema. wiki biography covers too much of an enormous coverage of people, it would be better to have a Wikiproject Actors and Directors - this would potentially be massive in its own right. Ernst Stavro Blofeld 20:30, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Please give User talk:Sangak the official WikiProject Film welcome. I have asked for him to join Ernst Stavro Blofeld 21:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

request for membership

Dear Hoverfish!

Ernst Stavro Blofeld recommended me to join Film wikiproject and speak for Persian cinema there. I added my name to the list before consulting with you! I hope I can be helpful. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sangak (talk • contribs) 21:24, 3 February 2007 (UTC).

Over-soul

Hoverfish, Oversoul was not in my watch list anymore, and I only now noticed your very old comments on the discussion page there. Talk:Over-soul I hope you'll make whatever improvements you can think of. It was meant as a stub. The only book by Jung I ever read was Memories, Dreams, and Reflections and am by no means an expert. Please improve if you can. It seems a valuable word as it is linked to from many sites. Cott12 Talk 02:41, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Template:Film

Done. Sorry that I prematurely made it without checking all cases. — TKD::Talk 16:44, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

It appears that this has been solved, I have also replied on the article's talk page (the other problem you notified me of). Cbrown1023 talk 00:10, 5 February 2007 (UTC)