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The result was delete. Xymmax So let it be written So let it be done 08:03, 13 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Doesn't seem to me to qualify as notable; articles are as much about the industry as about this particular transporter Orange Mike | Talk 00:39, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - There is a fair amount of news coverage, most of which seems very unflattering. The article would need some rewriting to represent all notable points of view. - MrX 02:16, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - There's source coverage of the June 23, 1996 arrest for a molestation charge of a 12 year old girl filed in Gwinnett County, battering the same 14-year-old girl February 1, 1997, his leading a transport team that took a 17-year-old Alabama girl to Jamaica on August 18, 2001, where she leaped to her death and he is quoted as saying the girl "showed absolutely no signs of suicidal tendency. I spent quite a bit of time with her. I absolutely do not think it was a suicide. It was a tragic end to a bad choice." There's coverage as a September 5, 2004 professional abductor who takes children on behalf of parents to a school in Tranquility Bay in Jamaica to straighten the kids out. (He might own a Discount Tire and Auto shop in Charlotte NC as of May 23, 2011). There seems to be enough source coverage for a biography article. What I posted is pretty much what an unbiased NPOV article would read, only in more unflattering detail. It's hard to say keep. -- Uzma Gamal (talk) 04:40, 26 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:28, 27 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jenks24 (talk) 11:07, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- delete The only current source for the article is a single article (the other source simply summarizes the first) talking about Strawn as an example of a subspecies of youth transport firm, so on that basis I don't think he's independently notable. Older versions are WP:BLP problem-fests which seems to have been powered by fishing expeditions because the Legal Affairs article names him. Salting this might be a good idea. Mangoe (talk) 16:16, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 00:24, 10 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete — This subject only begins to approach WP:GNG, and fails basic criteria of WP:BASIC. Though there is substantial coverage, though ultimately by one reliable source, as pointed out by Mangoe. The summary of the Legal Affairs article in a second publication doesn't add much in the way of substantial coverage; it doesn't have anything that could support additional article content. Given the one (or 1.5 or 2) sources and the negative aspects of the coverage, WP:BLPCRIME applies. It can't be said the subject is well-known at all. Uzma and Mangoe have also both pointed out the negative content in coverage poses problems BLP-wise. I think that even if WP:BASIC/WP:GNG were satisfied by additional reliable coverage, in this case, the BLP problems are reason enough to vote !delete. JFHJr (㊟) 01:50, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. The article doesn't even begin to argue for notability. Should have been speedied for not even bothering to assert notability. Yes, he's breathing, but that's about it. Qworty (talk) 02:18, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong delete - completely non-notable. Was it ever tagged for speedy deletion? ukexpat (talk) 18:22, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- reply yup, right after it was created back in 2008. The author, RucasHost, removed the speedy tag almost immediately, with a curt, "notability has been established" edit summary. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:20, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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