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- NQ (talk) 16:59, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

WhisperToMe, I just saw the deletion discussion and here are citations for three other reviews:

In the sea of sterile mountains: the Chinese in British Columbia (Book Review)

• Proper, H. Canadian Forum, May 1975, Vol. 55, p21-22,
• Choice (Conari Press), Mar 1975, Vol. 12, p138.
• Lim, H. Far Eastern Economic Review, May 2 1975, Vol. 88, p59.

As far as I can tell, the full text isn't available online for these reviews. - NQ (talk) 18:04, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

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Photo requests: Hamtramck

I have taken and uploaded the photos you requested for Hamtramck, Michigan. They can be found on my sub-page at User:Notorious4life/Pending article3. Feel free to use them in anyway you'd like. Notorious4life (talk) 03:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

New photo requests

I checked out the new list of photo requests you have sent me, and there's never a list too long! Unfortunately, the length of sunlight, available days off work for awhile, and subzero temperatures might delay this picture-taking venture for some time. But, I will take care of it soon. Thanks! Notorious4life (talk) 22:43, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Also, as far as Wikimedia Commons is concerned, I've never been involved in that and don't know anything about it, except all my pictures seem to appear on there. Feel free to transfer any of my pictures to there. Notorious4life (talk) 23:39, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of Miriya Parina Sterling

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Proposed deletion of Max Sterling

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re: Question about character articles

The prod tags (not speedy) I use allow for a bit more constructive disagreement. But if you agree that a redirect is fine, just let it be, it will be redirected in few more days unless someone else opposes. This stuff is much better done on wikia anyway, for better or worse. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 12:44, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

ANI

I have brought up my concerns with the battlefield behavior around Chinese Canadians in British Columbia at WP:ANI. The specific conversation can be found here. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:51, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

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Je suis Charlie

Thank you for your message. Yes, its an awful event. But there is also a lot of hypochrysy :

• The attacked newspaper Charlie hebdo was in a very bad economic situation. People were not very interested by it. The newspaper sells 60.000 newspapers a week.
• Why other newspapers in the world do not publish the caricatures of Mahomet (which are at the origin of the threats against Charlie hebdo) ? Because they are afraid and do not dare ! These newspapers may pay royalties for the drawings to Charlie habdo in order to let Charlie hebdo go better and better.
• Our president François Hollande has failed. Unemployment grows (10%). French debt also. The president has been asked "Are you on the right way ?". He answered : "We will see at the end of my presidence" (!). He has decided to dont work anymore about economy but about ecology (!) and for the international conference in december 2015. So I am sure that he is delighted to have a subject to speak about. However, for these problems of terrorism, the president doesnt do anything : interior ministry and police do the job. But our president may gently speak.
• During the greetings for the new year, the president said : "when Frenchmen are gathered, France wins". And now with these events, the president says that Frenchmen must be gathered themselves after these awful events. He speaks, he speaks and the economy of France get worse and worse.
  

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Comment

Thanks for the note. I think there is not a proper context in the section to include that information. You might create a context, at the very least expanding the list for the number of inmigrants sorted by citizenship until it reaches japanese people, ideally picking a reliable secondary source that highlights some features of the japanese community within the main topic "Demographics of Madrid". Best regards.--Asqueladd (talk) 07:41, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

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Help with translation of Brazilians in Japan into Spanish

Hello. I would like you can help translating Brazilians in Japan into Spanish for Spanish Wikipedia. Greetings. --Zerabat (talk) 15:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Re:Archiving tips

It is not possible to archive http://www1.folha.uol.com.br/folha/bbc/ult272u42891.shtml because the website does not allow to archive its pages (message says: The caching attempt failed for the following reason: The given URL contained a no-cache tag. WebCite respects the author's request to not have their web page cached.). However, seems to be that archive.is could archive that page (http://www.archive.today/F0gVp The question is if it is allowed to put archiveis pages in Wikipedia. --Zerabat (talk) 16:09, 15 January 2015 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Edit-a-thons in Houston

Hi User:WhisperToMe! I am reaching out to see if you would be interested in being a Wikipedia helper and assist with editing trainings for an Wikipedia:Meetup/ArtandFeminism Edit-a-thon at the Museum of Fine Arts, Houston on Sunday March 8th. We would like ask for your assistance in securing at least one experienced Wikipedian in the Houston area, and I'm be happy to put you in touch with the institutional organizers if you are able to help out. Let me know on Wiki or at dorohoward(at)gmail.com. Cheers! OR drohowa (talk) 15:41, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi User:WhisperToMe thanks for your quick response and I look forward to hearing from you to hear whether you are able to attend the meetup or no. If you are not able to attend, might you be able to identify other Houston or local Wikipedians, that might want to give an "Introduction to Wikipedia" training on that date? Thanks, and best wishes! OR drohowa (talk) 22:21, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Source found for article(s) about Japanese in the Americas

This:

• Galindo, Sergio Hernández (May 2008). "La guerra interna contra los japoneses". Dimensión Antropológica (No. 43). pp 87-119. Mexico DF: Instituto Nacional de Antropología e Historia.

It is mostly about Japanese in the Americas during the WWII. --Zerabat (talk) 20:57, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

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international school stubs

Hallo, while stub-sorting I've found a lot of recent international school stubs which you've created. I wonder if you'd consider adding a specific stub tag? For almost every country "{{countryname-school-stub}}" is a valid template. Could I suggest that you add that, instead of {{stub}}, and if it comes back as a non-existent template then leave it as the plain "stub" and a stub-sorter will sort it. That way you'd take the routine cases out of the workstream, with just a few more keystrokes from you, rather than someone else opening the file, editing, adding an edit summary, saving it. How about it? Thanks. PamD 11:23, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Hallo again - could you please remember that stub tags go at the end, after categories, not before them? Per WP:ORDER. Makes it easier for stub-sorters or anyone else to find them, and saves stub-sorters the bother of moving them to the right place. Thanks. PamD 11:32, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

@PamD: Hi! Sorry... I thought that the stub tag goes before the categories. I'll remedy this and put the stub tags after the categories. As for the specific stub tag I'll remember countryname-school-stub and use it from now on! Thanks for the notice! WhisperToMe (talk) 14:36, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

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"Anglophone" re schools/school districts

Please take out "Anglophone" from your peppering of articles with that as you have been doing today; it sounds odd outside of Quebec, and belies the fact that nearly all school districts have French immersion programs, and also native-language and other-language programs/certifications. The term has a POV ring to it, and is part of central Canadian/Quebecois language politics.

If you're going to improve/expand education sections with francophone-oriented content you should look at all items here e.g. Burnaby's French immersion programs, Central Okanagan SD's French immersion programs - note the high school, among others.Skookum1 (talk) 07:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Schools, including Deux Rives, should generally only be redirects to the governing school board, or in that case the governing organization, the societe francophone. Unless a school has notability e.g. incidents, architecture, etc in its own right, they are supposed to be redirected and do not warrant stand-alone articles. I like others who live and have lived in BC know that French immersion has been offered for a long time because my friends' kids and my nieces' and cousins' kids take it......but to you, that's "original research"...but some better googling and learning our terminology would have been a good thing before you started adding a POVism and rather POVish content, however minimal; and Category:French-language_schools_in_British_Columbia is there, but again, that is mistitled as those are not language schools teaching French, but schools where French curriculum is available.Skookum1 (talk) 07:08, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

also note, and this will differ from town to town, SD to SD, Punjabi programs Chinese programs Aboriginal education programs and more.Skookum1 (talk) 07:11, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Never mind, I just spent 40 minutes picking up after you as I know you will disregard my advice as you have before; those sections do need information on French immersion and Punjabi/aboriginal/European/Asian language programs which apparently you didn't even consider might exist when you imposed the Quebec-ism "Anglophone" on them.Skookum1 (talk) 07:55, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Re:Photo requests for Liceo Mexicano Japonés

Unfortunately, I do not know personally editors from Mexico City, but maybe this list could be useful to find ones: es:Special:WhatLinksHere/Usuario:Userbox/Distrito_Federal. --Zerabat (talk) 19:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Canadian school system

Regarding this discussion: the terms Anglophone/Francophone and English/French are not equivalent (the first set of terms refer to the first language one learns to speak), and even in Quebec it is more common to refer to English/French schools. Thus I believe using the terms English/French is more instructive for readers.

On a side note, constitutionally, the provinces were guaranteed the right to organize schools along denominational lines; Quebec and Newfoundland and Labrador sought and obtained amendments to organize them along linguistic lines for the former, and a single non-denominational board for the latter. isaacl (talk) 14:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)

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From Paris, with love (again)

Hi,
I uploaded for you three photos :

• File:Rue_Chardin,_13.jpg. This in number 13 and not number 7. We see the logo of International School of Paris on the building.
• File:Rue_Beethoven,_13.jpg.
• File:Rue_Beethoven,_6.jpg.

I let you using them in the page International School of Paris

Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 18:50, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi,

The photo Rue Serpollet, 26.jpg has been suppressed from Commons for no freedom of panorama in France. As I wrote, I uploaded photo in low definition on to French and English wikipédia. And I use it in the Charlie Hebdo pages as fair use. Perhaps, may you check that it is OK. --Tangopaso (talk) 09:39, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

Help

If you agree, may you put a keep advice (for De-minimis) on the deletion request of this file : File:Avenue-de-France.jpg. Thanks. --Tangopaso (talk) 19:38, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

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Skookum1

Can we please put an end to this feud? I have no idea who started it or why, and I don't care, but it needs to stop. I've just asked Skookum what it would take to end this, and now I'm asking you. Any ideas? I've just told Skookum that I think your age differences are contributing to the communication problem. Viriditas (talk) 06:05, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas:, thank you for the message. It's not only his perception of the age difference, but that he believes I as an outsider (not from British Columbia) have less authority than him in the topics he edits. Another factor is that I was a "newcomer" to the topic (initially I didn't know the proper vocabulary for "Indo-Canadian").

1. Others (not only me) told him that what is written in reliable sources is the deciding factor on what gets included, what the name of an article should be, and what the scope of the article should be... not where someone is from, or who they know, or how old someone is. He should be comfortable with allowing people younger than him and not from where he is to have a say in substantial decisions about the topic. Absorbing those attitudes I think would go a long way. I also think that if he reviews the exact words of WP:OR (WP:OR does not mean a "lie" but it means information not published in books/articles) it will go a long way.

2. I also suggested he follow the requirement for page citations for specific facts in books (it not only applies to quotes, but any fact that can be challenged). Pagecites are often necessary when trying to resolve content disputes. He does not possess any of the books he's citing from, so it's impossible for him to do the pagecites required by WP:V. I used a thread at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Are_.22page_cites.22_required.3F to show him this. I suggested that he get access to these books so he can comply with that portion of WP:V. I would also suggest that he follows the requirement that the person making the claim has the responsibility of providing sources

3. Even though it is true some people have short attention spans, he should still write replies that are on-target and concise so people are not intimidated by the size of what has been written (hatting long lists and referring to other posts may help reduce lengths of replies).

If he's willing to stop and reflect on these matters I will be happy to work with him after a two-week voluntary break on my end. I know he knows a lot about Canadian subjects and his knowledge is very useful. He does have a perception that there are certain sources being neglected in modern academia: I am open to using those sources after reviewing them and determining what they directly support.

WhisperToMe (talk) 06:35, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Will you contact me when you return from your break? Enjoy yourself, and I hope everything works out for you. Viriditas (talk) 10:08, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: I'll be happy to do that. Thank you :) WhisperToMe (talk) 14:29, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

I've commented about the use of page citations here. After reading the talk page comments, I'm convinced that Skookum1 can benefit from your guidance on how to best use sources. Part of the problem comes from him not having access to these sources. I realize that you've offered to share some sources, and I'm hoping I can help him use online sources like Google books to solve part of the problem. Viriditas (talk) 02:54, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas:

I'll be happy to provide research tips. I have three parts: Google Books, academic journal articles, and archival services.

Google Books and books in general:

• 1. With Google Books you can use quotation marks to get phrases rather than separate words. For example, "Chinese in Kamloops" gets exactly that phrase.
• 2. Check the publisher of the book you are citing. If it's self-published or it's a Wikipedia mirror, don't use the book. If the publisher meets the criteria for a reliable source, that's great.
• 3. If the book you are trying to cite uses "snippet view" you can manipulate Google Books to get more of the key phrases/sections you need. Document the URL and the excerpt of the book, whether it appears on a search result page or whether it is on an actual snippet. If a phrase appears on a search result, you can "search inside the book" for a piece of the phrase and get more of the phrase. If it's from inside the book, you can search for a piece of the phrase in the Google Books search engine and get more of the needed phrase. An example of me doing this may be found here: es:Wikipedia_discusión:Consultas_de_borrado/Liceo_Mexicano_Japonés#Fragments_of_the_book. You don't need to link to every URL from the Wikipedia article itself, but you can keep track of the Google Books snippets on talk pages.
• Remember you may ask for select pages or chapters of books from the Resource exchange at Wikipedia:RX. Also my offer to give you select pages of In the Sea of Sterile Mountains still stands.

Journal articles and newspaper articles:

• I like to search for journal articles and newspaper articles on university websites that have search engines open to the public. For example, University of Houston search engine and University of Southern California search engine. These search engines allow you to filter your results by type. For example if you want to write about a book you can filter it by "reviews" or "book reviews". It also helps to get DOI numbers of any reviews if possible, so here is a DOI number search engine. That can make it easier for people to find the requested articles. Remember some articles don't have DOI numbers.
• Once you assemble the list of requested journal articles and newspaper articles make a request at Wikipedia:RX. A volunteer may e-mail you the requested articles and/or send a download link to you.
• http://reddit.com/r/scholar is another place where you can get journal articles or newspaper articles that you may not be able to access. You may also ask at specific subreddits of particular universities. I got excerpts of a master's degree thesis from the University of Southern California and that was crucial in rescuing the Spanish Wikipedia article: es:Liceo_Mexicano_Japonés. Be sure to follow the subreddit rules and submit your requests to the correct places. If a Redditor is very helpful you can give her or him "Reddit Gold" as a thank you.

Archiving

• If your resource is publicly available on the World Wide Web, it's good to have it archived so it can be accessed in the future. You may go to http://web.archive.org and ensure that the Internet Archive has a copy of the page. If not, submit the page to the "Save Page Now" query.
• Please also use http://webcitation.org and submit the link there too. Keep track of the archive URL and include it in the citation. Remember that archive dot today links are not permitted on the English Wikipedia, but you can independently add the article there without linking to it if it is a plain HTML page or an image.

I hope these tips are helpful. If there are any other questions (even when I'm on break) I'll be happy to answer them.

WhisperToMe (talk) 00:42, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: In regards to sending the pages, I meant sending via e-mail the pictures I took of the pages with my cell phone. It's not necessary to snail-mail photocopies. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:30, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh, no need to explain. I was one of the first Wikipedians to do that back in 2006. Viriditas (talk) 07:56, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh, ok. No worries! WhisperToMe (talk) 08:36, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: If you wish for me to use Dropbox let me know. I'm sorting the pages (giving the images appropriate filenames). If this approach is best: I can first upload the table of contents, index, chronology, and list of sources other than newspapers. That gives the "skeleton" of the book away. Then I can send, as requested, the content pages I do have (I list the pages I have, and any one of those pages may be requested). If there are desired pages that are not in the collection I can go back and try to photograph more pages. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:16, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

I just think if you and Skookum1 are going to share files, that's the best way at this point. I'm not sure what's going on now on Skookum1's end. I tried to have a discussion with him, and I made it perfectly clear that I would not discuss more than one topic at a time, but he couldn't follow that simple rule, so I've given up at this point. My main concern with Skookum1 at this point is civility, because if he keeps going down this road he's going to get blocked. Viriditas (talk) 04:47, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

I'll tell @Moonriddengirl: that I am ready to share my files. @Viriditas:, thank you very much for your efforts. I really appreciate them! WhisperToMe (talk) 04:51, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

To Moonriddengirl: Since I want to respect laws, I want to ask Skookum exactly what pages he wants the most because I can't share too much of the book at one time. I wish to follow protocol from WP:RX. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:01, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Hello, WhisperToMe. Finding out what pages he wants seems like a good approach. In terms of respecting laws (IANAL), I wish there were some specific numbers available, but fair use is a slippery definition - alters according to what you share, where you share, how you share and why. I am more comfortable personally with sharing reference materials privately than I am posting them. For instance, there have been occasions in the past when I needed access to a source to check for copyright problems and somebody has emailed me a copy of an entire academic article for me to look at. After comparing, for that purpose, I deleted the file. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 12:35, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

FWIW, Dropbox is private depending on how it is shared. IOW, if Whisper sends the dropbox link to Skookum through the Wikipedia mailer, nobody else will have access to it. Viriditas (talk) 01:37, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: @Moonriddengirl: Thanks, guys! I have the dropbox link ready to send via private e-mail WhisperToMe (talk) 04:20, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: @Moonriddengirl: Dropbox link sent with the table of contents, chronology (it states which historical facts are in which chapter), sources other than newspapers, and index so he knows the architecture of the book. After he obtains those materials, I've offered to send up to one chapter (or maybe two) or the equivalent (but now I'm wondering if it will be too much). The book has an introduction and ten chapters. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:43, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

About your (non)participation in the January 2012 SOPA vote

Hi. I am Piotr Konieczny (User:Piotrus), you may know me as an active content creator (see my userpage), but I am also a professional researcher of Wikipedia. Recently I published a paper (downloadable here) on reasons editors participated in Wikipedia's biggest vote to date (January 2012 WP:SOPA). I am now developing a supplementary paper, which analyzes why many editors did not take part in that vote. Which is where you come in :) You are a highly active Wikipedian, and you were active back during the January 2012 discussion/voting for the SOPA, yet you did not chose to participate in said vote. I'd appreciate it if you could tell me why was that so? For your convenience, I prepared a short survey at meta, which should not take more than a minute of your time. I would dearly appreciate you taking this minute; not only as a Wikipedia researcher but as a fellow content creator and concerned member of the community (I believe your answers may help us eventually improve our policies and thus, the project's governance). PS. If you chose to reply here (on your userpage), please WP:ECHO me. Thank you! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 15:00, 4 February 2015 (UTC)

Hey WhisperToMe, any chance you could help me out with this? Few more responses would really be very valuable to me. As the 23rd most active Wikipedian, your input really does matter. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:19, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

If you don't mind answering publicly, how about here? Otherwise, you can send me an email. Let me know if you'd have any questions! Thank you! --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 16:39, 10 February 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	I've come across numerous articles you wrote and am amazed by the amount of contribution you've made. Just want to drop a note to let you know that your hard work is greatly appreciated! Cheers, Zanhe (talk) 09:09, 5 February 2015 (UTC)

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	Thank you for writing up an improvised guideline for citation best practices. I hope we can share this far and wide. Viriditas (talk) 05:01, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: You're welcome! If it can become an essay that would be great! WhisperToMe (talk) 05:38, 9 February 2015 (UTC)

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I just wanted to say that User talk:WhisperToMe/Vancouversplit is looking pretty good. I realize you may have a preference for formatting and style that I may not, but I think the use of deep nested subsections and small paragraphs is less than ideal. However, I'm sure this is just a draft and is likely conducive to expansion, so don't mind me. :) Viriditas (talk) 01:14, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Apparently, this innocent comment encouraging you to keep up the good work set Skookum off, and he's now gone off the deep end, with attack after attack against me. Because he refuses to be brief and address one subject at a time as I previously requested for the purposes of readability, I've moved his attacks to his own talk page.[1] Normally, I would request a block for this kind of behavior, and as you can see from his block log, this isn't the first time he's done this. If you can raise this problem with another admin, I would appreciate it. Apparently, asking him to take his concerns to the DRN noticeboard made him even angrier.[2][3] He is certainly welcome to act like a nut on his own time, but he's not allowed to do it here. This kind of unhinged behavior is not conducive to building an encyclopedia. I get that he has personal problems, but Wikipedia isn't therapy. His attempt to play the victim in all of this is sickening. Anyone who has to wade through his egotistical screeds knows that the real victim is anyone who takes the time to reply to him. Enough is enough. Viriditas (talk) 00:37, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: I notified somebody about this. WhisperToMe (talk) 02:17, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Moonriddengirl hasn't been active (with that account at least) since 18 February 2015. I have no problem ignoring Skookum's bad behavior, but he's clearly unwell at this point and shouldn't be editing Wikipedia. Any normal person who reads the comments he made in the context of my comments to you and my participation as an informal mediator will realize this. He's sick and needs professional help that can't be offered here. Viriditas (talk) 04:32, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

@Viriditas: I notified another admin, Yunshui, here. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:06, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

"Bad behaviour"?? What is wrong, in terms of policy, of applying policy i.e. NPOV, and cleaning up incredibly poor English composition in all its repetitive clunkiness? What's "not conducive" to building an encyclopedia is direct and ongoing violations of NPOV, and the creation of a blatant POV fork; as for this rank NPA "This kind of unhinged behavior ....I get that he has personal problems, but Wikipedia isn't therapy" that deserves redress, and apology; I've tried to raise direct quotations of policy that you BOTH are in violation of, and you go on about me being a problem .... of having "personal problems".

Good grief, the "personal problem" I have a problem with is the totally offensive POV tone of WMT's creations and, as proscribed by the NPOV and POV fork policies, being treated like #### and slandered about my work to FIX the gross violations re BC history, violations of both policy and guidelines that are now being recreated and perpetrated in a deliberate POV fork. The word gaming about "there is no POV" and "there is no POV fork" apparently stem from a lack of comprehension, or even reference to, WP:POV fork which is very clear about what a POV fork is, and this little sandbox project to sidestep consensus on existing articles is in direct violation of that policy, and of NPOV, which is just as paramount as Verifiability, which does not take precedent over it; the WP:V issue about page-cites is entirely instruction creep/SYNTH and does NOT take precedent over respecting NPOV.

I've been finding sentences with redundant phrasings, needless excess words, outright bad grammar; never mind trivial non sequiturs tossed into the "composition"without any regard to context; and even less to NPOV.

IMO you BOTH have "personal problems", chief of which is your inability to recognize your own failing about the NPOV policy; never mind respecting an editor with broad experience with the subject, and with sources, which are being shut out on spurious grounds because they do not "fit" the POV construct/agenda of WTM's ethnopolitical treatise; THAT is specifically mentioned on the WP:POV fork page and in the NPOV policy, also.

"Disengage" apparently means "let's go off and build a sandbox to replicate all the POV that Skookum1 objects to". Normally I would not comment here due to the "disengage order" but given the completely offensive NPA that Viriditas has just made, and his refusal to discuss the NPOV policy and the POV problems of the content, this comment had to be made here.

Lobbying for another ANI to harass me with is just more of the same; whether I take this to ARBCOM or to the POV discussion board I haven't decided yet; in the meantime I'm simply fixing bad English construction, commenting on gaffes in the sources, or absences of context and/or renderings of material that are blatantly POV in nature. I'm following policy. Neither of you are.Skookum1 (talk) 05:11, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Yunshui's response @Viriditas: WhisperToMe (talk) 09:39, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for trying, WhisperToMe. I have no stomach for ANI at the moment, as there is more cluelessness found there than anywhere else. I did notice, however, that the AN/ANI archives are full of incident reports highlighting the same problems with Skookum's behavior, all pointing to WP:DIVA as the cause. So for the moment, perhaps we should stop feeding the diva and ignore him. Viriditas (talk) 09:42, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Cathedral of Salta

Hi, dear WhisperToMe, how are you? It's a long time I was not boring you... :-))))

Please, I opened this new page and I ask 5 minutes to read it and correct my mistakes. 5 minutes, no more!!!

Thanks a lot for your precious help!!!

Rei Momo (talk) 18:16, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Wowowowow fastest than a Japanese train!!! Grazie mille!!! Rei Momo (talk) 18:21, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Hi, my dear, I think yes, because from the Spanish page I understood this. Have a nice day and thanks a lot for your precious help! Rei Momo (talk) 09:51, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Thank youuuuu, see you soon!!! Rei Momo (talk) 01:01, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

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Dearest WhisperToMe, how are you? How's the weather in California? Here, perhaps, is coming Spring... :-)

I opened this new page, it's a little longer than the others, and I ask some minutes of your precious time to read it and to correct my mistakes. Please.

I love this shrine, it's only 40 minutes by car far from my house.

Thanks a lot for your precious help!

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Thank youuuuuuuuuu :-) Rei Momo (talk) 23:32, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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Hi! What's up? I think I have some pictures of Buenos Aires City but I haven't been there for months. I live 79 kilometres north of Buenos Aires, so I have pictures of this northern region of the metropolitan area (Campana, Zárate, Escobar, Exaltación de la Cruz, Pilar, etc). If I find some photos, I'll let you know! Delotrooladoo (talk) 19:12, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

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Ilkeston

Hi, I have reverted your edit as I do not think its relevant to the Ilkeston article as Morley is not Ilkeston, I see though you have this text on the Morley and Derby College articles. Regards --palmiped |  Talk  09:45, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Giorgio Demetrio Gallaro

Dearest WhisperToMe, how are you? Here Spring is arrived, wow!!!

I opened this page, and I ask some minutes of your time to correct it, and also please to put the page in Wikidata, because today I'm not able to do, I think my PC is drunk, ah ah ah!

Thanks a lot for your precious help and Happy Easter to you and your family.

Rei Momo (talk) 13:27, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Thank youuuuuu. I'm sorry, I don't have the list, bust I consulted the site: you can click on Le Comunità, after Cenni storici after Piana degli Albanesi I think maybe something interesting.

Thanks again for your precious help! Rei Momo (talk) 08:42, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

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Re: Inuyasha articles

Thanks for the article but they aren't useful to me since I have no access to the magazines since I'm from South America. Regards.Tintor2 (talk) 15:58, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

Manga

Weel, if you visit your post, you can see someone translated it. But, if you'll post in future only in English, I think there's no problem!

See you soon

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Weekend schools

Hi there. I appreciate that the schools you added are legit and I get that they are government funded. Problem is where do we draw the line? These lists have schools that act as full-time education providers, and I think that if we start adding part-time schools the scope and relevance of the lists will be diluted. If that one goes in I can imagine other editors wanting to add weekend drama schools, dance schools etc based on the fact that some get local council funding etc... it's a slippery slope! Bleaney (talk) 18:42, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

My personal view is that they should not be included in these lists i'm afraid. They are not full-time schools that pupils of compulsory school age attend, they are voluntary (in you own words) 'education programmes'. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to include information on these programmes in the location articles? Bleaney (talk) 18:04, 9 April 2015 (UTC)

Japanese school

Actually, I don't know... But I've posted a notice there. I'll tell you if someone answers. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 19:35, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Update: I've posted a request at Commons and it gained two answers. They want to know to what Japanese school in São Paulo you are referring to. That's probably the Escola Japonesa de São Paulo, right? I've gave them the school address based on the link in "External links". Now, we wait. Gabriel Yuji (talk) 00:40, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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Russian Embassy School in London

Hello again :-)

Thanks for creating the Russian Embassy School in London article. However I can't seem to find it on Edubase, which lists all accredited full-time schools in England. I have searched under the school name and Independent schools in Kensington and Chelsea and have drawn a blank. It would be useful in terms of categorisation, infobox etc... can you shed any light? Bleaney (talk) 17:59, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

I have had a few tries and nothing... I think it might be because the hours of the school are 8.30 to 2pm, and so it is not a full-time school and not regulated by Ofsted or the Department for Education... it's interesting to note that all the other schools listed as 'International schools' in London are regulated... Bleaney (talk) 18:10, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Indeed, and I have to say that these kinds of establishments are not generally regarded as International schools in the trues sense on Wikipedia, as they are not open for private students to attend (they are more akin to military schools abroad for children in foreign bases). Would you mind if I recategorised the article? Bleaney (talk) 18:15, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Okay I will wait a little while... Bleaney (talk) 18:21, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Scuole Giapponesi di Milano e Roma

Hi, dearest WhisperToMe, and thank you for your messages on my Italian Talk Page. Yes, I think there's no problem if you write in English, everybody understand English!

Leave me 1-2 days and I'll open the two pages: I have to find the manner to put the two red links in other pages (Japanese Language.... and so on).

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International Schools in India

The clue is in the opening line of the article... This is a list of notable' international schools in India... Redlinks do not prove notability. Bleaney (talk) 22:15, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Cool, feel free to... Bleaney (talk) 19:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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Re: Question about photo requests for Oakland, NJ

Unfortunately, I don't have any pictures of New Jersey at all, and I've never been to Oakland, and no longer live in NJ. — (User:Legionary74 18:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

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Request name change of University at Buffalo to State University of New York at Buffalo

Hello, I noticed you contributed to the suny buffalo page and were the only recent one with a talk page! This article : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_at_Buffalo , is not the official name. The official name is State University of New York at Buffalo and the name should be stated as such. The category section : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:University_at_Buffalo,_The_State_University_of_New_York and when viewed on mobile the wiki page looks like this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_at_Buffalo,_the_State_University_of_New_York baring an incorrect name , University at Buffalo, The State University of New York should not be used instead State University of New York at Buffalo. State University of New York at Buffalo already redirects to the correct wiki page so I imagine changing shouldn't be much of a hassle. Some references here - http://www.buffalo.edu/toolbox/brand/editorial/ub-name.html . It would also fit in when referencing it among other universities as shown here : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Flagship_universities_in_the_United_States . If it was State University of New York at Buffalo it would fit in with the others, instead it is outed and seemed like it isn't apart of New York. Furthermore University at Buffalo is just a shortened nickname and University at Buffalo, The State university of New York is also incorrect. It creates confusion among visitors , thats why the official name (State University of New York at Buffalo) would be a better fit. AlaskanNativeRU (talk) 22:27, 7 May 2015 (UTC)§

I'm not sure how to create a request to move otherwise, and it seems like the community over there is hostile, putting in their own bias and often times ignoring references and sources and factual evidence. Thanks!AlaskanNativeRU (talk) 22:37, 7 May 2015 (UTC)§

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Spring in Paris

Hi,
As requested, I uploaded for you 4 photos onto Commons (old or ordinary buildings) :

• File:Avenue_d'Iéna,_17.jpg
• File:Avenue_Raymond-Poincaré,_13.jpg
• File:Boulevard_de_Montmorency,_37.jpg
• File:Rue_du_Ranelagh,_96bis.jpg

I let you using them in your pages.

Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 19:20, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

I uploaded onto Commons File:Levallois,_rue_Jules_Guesde,_72.jpg. Ugly and very ordinary building. I used it in the French and English WP as photo of the head office of Speed Rabbit Pizza.

Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 17:39, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

I uploaded onto Commons File:Boulogne,_rue_Louis_Pasteur_19-19bis.jpg. Ordinary building. I used it in the French and English WP as photo of the head office of Pika Édition.

Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 22:33, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

I uploaded onto Commons :

• File:Rue_de_la_Pompe,_53.jpg as requested. Ordinary building. Photo is not fine, but there were cars in front of the building, and I had to take picture from one side.
• File:Iglesia_Española, rue_de_la_Pompe,_55.jpg, spanish church.

I let you use them. Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 20:56, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

I uploaded onto Commons :

• File:Liceo Español Luis Buñuel.jpg.
• File:Rue_Jadin,_12.jpg, embassy of Rwanda.

I let you use them. Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 16:09, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

As requested, I uploaded for you 2 photos onto Commons :

• File:Boulevard_Haussmann,_77.jpg. I did not see any mention of a company such as Croisières de France.
• File:Place_de_Catalogne,_23.jpg. I did see a plaque of Agence pour le développement du français à l'étranger.

I let you use them in your pages. Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 17:12, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

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Ok, send to me, send...

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I received your e-mail, and I would like to read the artcile, yes, send it. Thanks a lot. I charged 3 new pictures on this page: do you like them?

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You can send it at the same e-mail you've written yesterday. Thanks a lot!!! Tell me about the picture, because I didn't understand so well... Rei Momo (talk) 14:05, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Oh.... but I received a message from Wikipedia-WhisperToMe in my e-mail box asking about the pictures. Did was not your? Rei Momo (talk) 18:48, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

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I just opened this new page page talking about a sad moment of our Italian history, and please I ask you some minute of your time to correct my mistakes, please.

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Wowowowowow, so quick? But in CA now is 2,30 a.m.; arent you zzz zzz zzz? Thanks a lot! Rei Momo (talk) 09:34, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Very gooood, and ze-jie for hyour help!!! Rei Momo (talk) 09:47, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

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Asnwer

Hi dearest WhisperToMe!

I asked to our wikifriend Syrio posso aiutare? if this page may be opened or to be afraid to be deleted.

Let's wait his answer, that if will be YES, I'll take care to open it!

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He told me to ask to Discussioni progetto:Istruzione and I did! Let's wait and hope a YES answer! Rei Momo (talk) 22:43, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

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Dany N'Guessan

I have reverted your edit as I don't think that the addition of a "See also" section containing a link to an article that has only the most tenuous link to the main subject is terribly helpful. Incidentally, looking at your recent contributions, I don't see a lot of edit summaries. A case of The pot calling the kettle black? 78.147.173.103 (talk) 09:15, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I think the Bar is the right place!

But... I never got there, it's too complicated for me to find the right coin to someone ask...

Sorry... :-)

Rei Momo (talk) 21:22, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Yeahhhhhh :-)))) Rei Momo (talk) 21:40, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

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Holmby Park

Do you know why the gallery is wobbly?Zigzig20s (talk) 09:20, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it is strange. Let me know if you can think of specific articles to create about the area. I know it quite well.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:03, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Pietralata

Ni hao ma, dearest WhisperToMe, how are you?

I opened this new page about an Italian film, and I ask 5 minutes to you to read it and to correct my mistakes please.

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Thank youuuuu!!! Rei Momo (talk) 11:18, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

'See also'

Do you have any ideas we have about people from Paris who are of African descent? Sticking a 'see also' link to that article looks like spamming and it's clumsy. Pipe it into prose, if you can. GiantSnowman 09:52, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Yes, sounds good. GiantSnowman 10:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

Hermitage cats

Hi Whisper,

Would you be interested in making an article on ru:Эрмитажные коты? See also: [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] Thanks, Sealle (talk) 12:52, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

• Well done! Sealle (talk) 08:30, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
• T:TDYK? Sealle (talk) 08:40, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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Summer in Paris

As requested, I uploaded for you 2 photos onto Commons :

• File:Avenue_Bugeaud,_20.jpg. There is the panel of the school.
• File:Avenue_Victor_Hugo,_173_(Nigerian_embassy).jpg.

I let you use them in your pages. Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 16:10, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

I uploaded File:Saint-Cloud_-_Rue_Pasteur,_18.jpg. It is the Internationale Deutsche Schule DSP (see panel). The entrance at 12 rue Lelégard is only an auxiliary entrance. Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 16:25, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Whisper

Regarding School districts in Michigan, in Albanian its > Shkollat e drejtorisë arsimore në Miçigan. At the moment i don't have the time to do a translation of Warren Consolidated Schools article. Its great that you have started an article: History of the Albanian Americans in Metro Detroit. I have family there (with origins from the Prespa region in Macedonia). However due to time constraints regarding my post grad studies and also engaging in a very complex process regarding making changes to the Northern Epirus article, will will contribute to the article later in the year. All the best ! Resnjari (talk) 09:31, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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Re: Portugese question

Hello! They would be:

• Categoria:Distritos escolares da Flórida
• Categoria:Distritos escolares de Nova Jérsei
• Categoria:Distritos escolares de Massachusetts

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Help for English language

Hello,
I belong to an association named Greeters. It has been founded in NY city. Its goal is to organize visits for small group of tourists (maximum 6). These visits are free. Can you check the following message I send to the tourists in order to propose a balade. I will perhaps make a balade 5th of august with 2 tourists from... Houston, Texas !!!
Hello,

Following your request to the website of the greeters, I propose you a balade wednesday 5th of august. In the morning. If you prefer, I am also available on the afternoon or on the 4th of august.

I propose you to choose between 3 balades * Tour of the ile de la Cité. With these monuments : Louvre, pont des Arts, Institut, place Dauphine, Notre-Dame cathedral, flower market, Conciergerie. * Tour of the ile Saint-Louis. With these monuments : Notre-Dame cathedral, main street of ile Saint-Louis, remaining of medieval city wall, hotel de Sens, some of the oldest houses of Paris, flower market, Conciergerie * Montmartre. With these monuments and places : Bateau-Lavoir, place du Tertre, Saint-Pierre church, Sacred-Hart of Jesus basilica and the large view to Paris, vineyard of Montmartre, small streets of Montmartre, the 2 mills including moulin de la Galette, the café of the movies Amélie Poulain.

I will speak to you about these monuments, their architecture and their history (but we will not have enough time to visit them).

I am French and my level in English is not very fluent, but I think that it will be OK.

I am 64 years old and retired since last month of march. I am interested by history and architecture.

This will be my third balade as greeter, and the second one in English language.

You are totally free to accept or decline my proposal as you feel it.

According to your choice, I will give you the meeting point. It will be a small and convenient metro station exit.

Dominique. --Tangopaso (talk) 20:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

If you fix the text here, I will correct my errors. Balade is a French word for walking tour. With an idea of leisure. There is also the verb se balader (=to go for a walk), synonym of se promener. There is also fr:Ballade (with 2 L letters). It is a special form of poems, mainly medieval poems. --Tangopaso (talk) 18:49, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Film Ein Sommer in Paris

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Than youuuuuuu !!! Rei Momo (talk) 22:35, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

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@WhisperToMe: I have not actually found a Toronto Star article, nor any evidence that the school actually exists. Also, WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES is an essay, and WP:GNG should probably take precedence over the essay. Grognard Extraordinaire Chess (talk) Ping when replying 02:31, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

Saw the latest ref, but it does not appear to satisfy WP:GNG. Grognard Extraordinaire Chess (talk) Ping when replying 02:32, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

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I don't know...

The only think I can mind is that the card celebrates the ROBERTO deal, ROme, BERlin and TOkio. Many boys where called Roberto in that time. This is the only thing I can remember.

Thanks a lot to remember me. See you soon

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Hi, dearest WhisperToMe, how are you?

After the film, I've opened this new page, concierning a district of Rome. Please, I ask 5 minutes of your precious time to read tha page and correct the mistakes of my poor English!

Thanks a lot for your precious help, and see you soon

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Thanks a lot, my dearest Wikifriend! I put, from Italian page, the name of the School buildings in Pietralata. See you soon! Rei Momo (talk) 10:00, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

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Hi,
These are not photos of buildings you asked to me, but interesting ones

• File:Your waiting time (to enter into Louvre museum) is calculated at 1hour 30.jpg : one hour and a half to enter into Louvre museum !
• File:Chinese tourists waiting for the opening of the Galeries Lafayette.jpg : every day, there is a crowd of chinese people who wait for the opening of the department store. And who hurry when it is opened. It is good for French commerce and business ! Chinese people travel always by group. They enter the store or go eating by whole group.
  

With the parisian association of the Greeters, I have a walking tour tomorrow morning in Montmartre with 2 women from Houston, Texas.
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Help with "no original research" posting for "Ages of Consent in North America"

I'm hoping you can clarify on the status and procedure vis a vis the entry for "Ages of Consent" on the "no original research" page. I notice you had removed the "original research" tag from the "Pennsylvania" section on the AOC page.

Does this mean that the NOR notice is now rescinded? And is there some process for these NOR notices, e.g. in which some decision is rendered?

FWIW, my position is multifold:

• Secondary sources specifying the "Pennsylvania age of consent" as such are irrelevant because they have a different meaning than that which applies to this page.
• Secondary sources defining the "age of consent" are irrelevant as previously discussed, i.e. specialized definition (implied though it may be) that applies to this page.
• Notwithstanding the issue of whether there are reliable secondary sources, the secondary source rule is trumped by IAR, in order to serve the purposes of the page.

WRT the "footnote" you included to the effect that one can be prosecuted notwithstanding the fact that the person has reached the (so-called) age of consent in Pennsylvania, that really doesn't address the fact that stating the Pennsylvania AOC is 16 is a detriment to the page.

So to "summarize" my perspective about the AOC definition as used on the AOC pages:

Many people have a "casual" interest in knowing what the AOC is for a particular jurisdiction, whether this is in regard to their own personal relationship, a friend, or just general knowledge. One can offer them all the gory details of the applicable law, but this just sends them away, hopelessly frustrated, or worse, they may read all those gory details and then misinterpret them.

Neither Wikipedia nor any person can solve the problem that a given law has a certain degree of complexity. Towards that end, the idea of the AOC definition for these AOC pages is to attempt to effectively meet the needs of the people who are drawn to these pages, by identifying the age at which the person's "consent" to engage in sex is generally recognized, to wit, that consent to sexual activity by another individual with said individual is recognized, and not subject to legal sanction. (Note that the definition of AOC as stated on the page is really just provided as background info, not the same as the definition that may be inferred from or implied by other content on the AOC page).

Aside from the the numerous exceptions (e.g. school employees, family members, ...), I feel that this implied definition has worked pretty well. I will additionally note that there are probably numerous instances in which vigorous enforcement of NOR (depending on how this is interpreted) would require removing much of the content, probably resulting in replacement of the existing content with just statutory language, which would have a great risk of misinterpretation (hence Wikipedia can better disclaim "responsibility" but in the process, becomes less useful). So while you may try to claim some high moral ground on secondary sources, I would make the case that IAR nevertheless trumps it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabrickator (talk • contribs) 19:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for checking in! I'll be happy to clarify some things: @Fabrickator:

• 1. I removed the OR notice from the page because I found a secondary source (the Inquirer article) that links together the "age of consent" issue with the "corruption of minors" issue, and the source explains the relationship between the two.
  • The newspaper article says the age of consent is 16 but that the "corruption of minors" law is considered separate from the "age of consent" issue (according to the statements of the former prosecutor) and is used by Pennsylvania prosecutors to punish people who sleep with 16 and 17 year olds. The Wikipedia article restates this information without making any new/original interpretations, so therefore it's not original research.
  • Saying that "the age of consent is really 18 and not 16 because of the corruption of minors law" would be Wikipedia:Original research because there are no sources cited which come to that conclusion and because it conflicts with what the sources say the age of consent is. What WP:SYNTHESIS says is that Wikipedia cannot take information from two sources and make an original conclusion "not explicitly stated by any of the sources"
• 2. According to Wikipedia:No_original_research#Primary.2C_secondary_and_tertiary_sources Wikipedia articles are supposed to be primarily based upon secondary sources, but they also to a lesser extent may be based on primary sources. That means secondary sources more or less determine what the article content is. Wikipedia articles usually have to follow the secondary sources.
  • There is one case where a newspaper says something is in one town but the US government maps and/or municipal maps show that something is physically located in another town or an unincorporated area: Talk:Centennial_Airport#The_way_to_settle_the_map_location_dispute:_US_census_bureau_maps. In this case, though, we have concrete information to show that the information from the primary source is not an original interpretation but instead is directly established by the primary source.
• 3. From my understanding this will not affect large parts of the age of consent articles. If they directly state verbatim what the laws are and what they say, they are okay. They are not making an original conclusion not stated by any of the laws.
  • I have noticed that in some places in the age of consent article series, portions about certain countries may say "the law is unclear" - if that is not sourced to another source, anything that says the law is unclear it may count as original research (since the conclusion did not explicitly come from any source). In Ages_of_consent_in_Africa#Seychelles I cited a statement from the US State Department that discusses how the situation in the Seychelles is unclear. Because the information directly comes from another source, it's not original research.
  • I personally have no plans to touch any of those "the law is unclear" statements, but instead I would be on the lookout for any references where people explicitly say it's unclear.
• 4. I am aware that some people just want the Cliff's Notes and don't need all of the details in one setting. That's why I installed the footnote in Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#State_laws. Even though Pennsylvania appears on the "16" list the reader will realize something is unusual with Pennsylvania because of the little "a" footnote. Upon reading it he/she will know that people can still get in trouble for having sex with 16 and 17 year olds even though the state AOC is considered to be 16.
• 5. I understand that people will want to know "what age will the other person have to be for me not to get in trouble?" The primary purpose of Wikipedia, though, is to be an encyclopedia, and that means reflecting what the existing literature says about a topic. An encyclopedia is a tertiary source that gets its information from other sources (primary and secondary), and does not get info from original research. Wikipedia needs to meet that goal first. Now I think having the footnote allows Wikipedia to satisfy the role and inform people of the true nature of Pennsylvania law.

If we come to an agreement that Pennsylvania's age of consent should be listed as "16" but with a prominent footnote saying that people can still face legal sanctions for having sex with 16 and 17 year olds even though the 16 and 17 year olds are technically "consenting", then I can close out the OR noticeboard page. If the discussion isn't closed, there won't be an "official ruling" but rather what happens is that other editors respond and they may form a consensus after deliberating the issue. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:38, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

In case there is any doubt, we have not come to an agreement that Pennsylvania's age of consent should be listed as "16". Fabrickator (talk) 09:00, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Age of consent with no statutory rape law? (Honduras)

As included in the footnote on Ages of consent in North America for Honduras:

The legal age of consent is 18. There is no statutory rape law...

This seems to be self-contradictory, and in the absence of some other secondary source that can clarify this, we might choose to go to a primary source. If that's not permitted, then perhaps we should just tell the truth, that a reliable secondary source is not available, rather than to stick the reader with information that evidently can't be trusted. Fabrickator (talk) 08:58, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

• @Fabrickator: It's the wording that more or less comes from the US State department. In the meantime I did find what seems to be the Honduran laws about these, so they will be posted. Since primary sources can't be "interpreted" it may help to see what Spanish or English-language Honduran sources have to say about the law. Getting Honduran Wikipedians to help could be an idea too. WhisperToMe (talk) 11:41, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
  • @Fabrickator: It may be possible the state department made a mistake, so I can see if it made any other "country reports" about Honduras mentioning the age of consent. If it consistently says the AoC is a certain value it may be good to cite those sources. WhisperToMe (talk) 12:28, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

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Patrick Bokanowski

You helped me write several film-related aritcles such as See You in Hell, My Darling and upload images unto them in the past. I have a dynamic IP. Hope all is well. Is there any way to upload a non-free picture of Patrick Bokanowski, for example, this one, this one, this one this one this one, or this one without breaking Wikipedia rules? Thanks. 46.116.230.76 (talk) 10:05, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

By the way, you speak Spanish, right? If you have the time and can find sources, I would highly appreciate it if you could create articles for Agustí Villaronga's film Le Passager clandestin and for Isaac-Pierre Racine and Lydia Zimmermann who co-directed Aro Tolbukhin. En la mente del asesino with him. I would then augmente and ameliorate the articles myself. Thanks! 46.116.230.76 (talk) 16:34, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately they do not exist on any Wiki. They have to be created from scratch. Oh, and I meant that you could search, if you have the times, for Spanish-language sources online to create articles in English here. 46.116.230.76 (talk) 16:45, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

I will search for English-language sources and report back to you within the next couple of days. If I do not manage to come up with anything substantial, prehaps you could start searching for Spanish ones. 46.116.230.76 (talk) 17:01, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, for starters, Mr. Racine has an English-language website here, Ms. Zimmermann here, and I also found a short description of the film here. 46.116.230.76 (talk) 17:11, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Searching Google Books, I found a few things in Spanish (e.g. here, here, here, and here) but I do not speak that language... 46.116.230.76 (talk) 17:26, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

If you do manage to find enough sources to crate an article, here is the film poster. 46.116.230.76 (talk) 10:33, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Some new information. I contacted Ms. Zimmermann today and was told that her date of birth is 12 December 1966. Am trying now to get the same information from Mr. Racine regarding his birth date. Should come in handy when we build the entries. 46.116.230.76 (talk) 11:19, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Saw the new article. Great! Now just add the poster linked to above to the infobox and only two entries are left. 46.116.230.76 (talk) 11:33, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks for the upload! Please message me when the two biographical articles are ready. 46.116.230.76 (talk) 16:41, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

If you do not manage to create the two biographical articles, it is fine by me. I may not be able to locate any more sources than what I have alredy gave you... 46.116.230.76 (talk) 11:09, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

I wanted to tell you that, in addition to several internet and Google Books links that mention that Zimmermann and Racine worked on the film, there is actually one last source that could be used to construct these two biographical articles. The Aro Tolbukhin: En la mente del asesino disc included in the Cofre Agustí Villaronga boxset, released in 2010 by Barcelona-based home video company Cameo Media S.L., contains a commentary by all three directors involved as well as other features such as a makng-of featurette, short filmographies of everyone involved, and even more. I own a copy of the set. However, unfortunately, only the films themselves contain Englihs subtitles. Otherwise I would have attempted to tell you what they say there. Perhaps you live in an area with an extensive international DVD library? My IP address got changed a few days ago to 89.139.166.50 (talk) 16:32, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Like I said, only the feature films themselves have English subtitles in that boxset, not the extras. You could look it up, by searching for their titles as listed on the Cameo website or on the Spanish Amazon, on torrent websites, yet I am no expert on such things. Good luck! 89.139.166.50 (talk) 22:16, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Just found this Spanish-language interview with Lydia Zimmermann. Can an article be built with it? My IP address recently got changed into 85.250.132.190 (talk) 12:02, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Great! Please send me another message once it is done. Thanks! You can also find a recorded interview with her (and Villaronga) in what I believe is Catalan here. After you create the article, could you please also create a Category:Films directed by Lydia Zimmermann for inclusion of Aro Tolbukhin. En la mente del asesino? 85.250.132.190 (talk) 12:32, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

Just dropped by to mention that my IP address was changed again and to issue the reminder that you asked for. 85.250.161.165 (talk) 11:11, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Please do not forget about the Category: Films directed by Lydia Zimmermann for inclusion of Aro Tolbukhin. En la mente del asesino. Thanks! 85.250.161.165 (talk) 16:13, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks once again for the category! I have yet to find any substantial information abour Isaac Pierre Racine online, so, if you ever do, feel free to start an entry. 85.250.161.165 (talk) 17:49, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

Hello again! I found this article with some information about Racine. Do you believe an article can be constructed out of it? Thanks. My IP is now 109.67.195.14 (talk) 16:17, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

If you do manage to create an article, please also create a Category:Films directed by Isaac Pierre Racine for inclusion of Aro Tolbukhin. En la mente del asesino. Thanks! I am linking several photos of Lydia Zimmermann and Isaac Pierre Racine. And here are a few photos of them with some other people. Please tell me if you believe any of them to comply with Wikipedia's fair use polciies. 109.67.195.14 (talk) 16:35, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

So, what do you believe? Can an article be created about Racine from that link and are these photos of any use here? Thanks! 109.67.195.14 (talk) 11:10, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Would you consider this (p. 29) to be a useful source about Racine that together with the previous link can be used to build an entry about him? Then there is also this paragraph from a book. Thanks. Meanwhile, I have also posted this. 109.67.195.14 (talk) 22:08, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Just noticed this article about a husband-and-wife filmmaking duo. If we cannot create a separate entry about Racine, would it be possible, do you believe, to convert the Lydia Zimmermann article (and her category as well) into an entry about them both? Thanks. My IP is now 79.176.208.216 (talk) 17:27, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. You can compare their IMDb profiles and see that while they do not work together on all of their projects, there is quite a bit of collaboration on many. Some of those are already mentioned on the Zimmermann article. 79.176.208.216 (talk) 17:50, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Everything I managed to find about Racine as a person so far is at the requested articles entry linked to above and most of it does discuss them both together, as do, of course, all the sources discussing Aro Tolbukhin. En la mente del asesino (e.g. reviews available on Rotten Tomatoes and other such sources or Google Books sources mentioning the film) by virtue of them having codirected the film together, as well as the interview we used earlier to build the Zimmermann article. Tell me if you believe it is enough. 79.176.208.216 (talk) 18:06, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Unfortunately that is all I am aware of for now. Thanks again, and, I will report back should I find any more information. 79.176.208.216 (talk) 18:16, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Would it be possible for you to create a Category:Films directed by Isaac Pierre Racine for inclusion of Aro Tolbukhin. En la mente del asesino? I have seen several categories here dedicated specifically to films by directors who do not have their own entries. Thanks. 79.176.208.216 (talk) 21:00, 20 February 2016 (UTC)

Did you receive my recent question? I got no reply from you so far. Thanks. 79.176.208.216 (talk) 12:25, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for the reply! Please notify me when you have some news. 79.176.208.216 (talk) 16:29, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

There are currently no other films by Racine having entries, however, categories containing only one film do exist, see, e.g., Category:Films directed by Patrick Bokanowski and Category:Films directed by Lydia Zimmermann. 79.176.208.216 (talk) 16:34, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

He is Canadian yet living in spain since 1987 I believe. Will list him as Canadian as I am not sure if he was ever naturalized in Spain. Many thanks! 79.176.208.216 (talk) 16:49, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Hi again. Have you seen my most recent collection of sources for creating an article about Racine? It is available at my most recent IP talk page. What do you think? Thanks. 79.177.10.202 (talk) 12:15, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

Hi. I recently placed a request for an article to be written about David Perlov's 1983 film Yoman here. Would it be possible for you to please kindly start one? Many English-language sources could easily be found online, and, after the entry is created, I would be able to augment it using the many sources found at the Hebrew-language Wikipedia article about Perlov. You can also find the theatrical release poster here. Thanks. And, if you do manage to wirte an entry, please also create a Category:Films directed by David Perlov. My IP is now 79.179.210.149 (talk) 13:23, 28 February 2017 (UTC)

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Dearest WhisperToMe, how are you?

Here is still too hot... :-)

I opened this short page now, and I ask please 5 minutes of your time to read it and to correct my mistakes. Thanks a lot fot your precious help!

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More images: Pullmantur head offices and Lycée Français. --Zaqarbal (talk) 01:36, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

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Actually, I live here and have taken many photos, along with my husband. What's missing?Thelmadatter (talk) 14:19, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

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Hey! Always ready to help!

No, I did not check the AEFE page, nor knew the existence of its guidelines until you pointed it out. If the criteria are so strict when adding international schools, there would be less then 4 or 5 of them on the template. My opinion is that International Schools article makes a good point, when saying following a national curriculum different from that of the school's country of residence. which is the case with pretty much every single school in the template.

That is not to say, that an article in Wikipedia itself should be the main criteria of our decision, but rather my try in getting things more rational so to say. I am interested to hear your standpoint.

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I drive walking tours with the association of Greeters in Paris. Often american or australian tourists. Very interesting. My English language is not very fluent, but generally it is OK. Except when I have to explain for example that if there is very often a rooster at the top of the church towers in France, it is in memory of the speech of Jesus to Saint-Peter : Before the rooster sing, you will betrayed me three times.
Amusant fact, Australian people are surprized by the condensation trails of the planes in the sky of Paris. The say that in Australia, when planes arrive they land and dont fly further.
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I would like to take some pictures of KLIA2 if I can, but I do not live near the airport.

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WOW, I didn't kwnow that in the world was so may Italian School!!! But. sorry. I don't know hoe I can help you about this matter. Really I don't have news about this matter.

The only think I can do, if you want, is to open some page. Sorry.

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The meaning of "various school"

Hi, I don't think you're properly understanding the classification of schools under Japanese law. Various school is not synonymous with "South Korean international school" or even "international school" in general. Many Mindan schools are not even classified as "various schools". For example see this Osaka government page [10] which lists some of the foreigners' schools in Osaka by their type of legal classification. The ones at the top are "various schools" (各種学校), mostly chōsen gakkō plus the YMCA and a few others. In contrast two Mindan schools are listed as "Article 1" schools, i.e. ordinary recognised private schools. 210.6.254.106 (talk) 12:18, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Georges Wolinski

Hi whisper to me. I hope I am doing this right to leave you a message. Please can you give a reference proving that Georges Wolinski considered himself part of the Maghreb community in Paris. I live here and nobody who is what we call a "pied noir" would describe themselves as part of the Maghreb community. It would be the same as saying that a Frenchman born in the US and moved back to Paris would consider himself automatically as part of the American community in Paris. He may do but to use the link to the page that you created you need to supply proof. If you were born a Buddhist but had never practised that religion would you be part of the Buddhist community.

I understand that you wish to have a maximum number of links to the pages that you create but this time it's a bit out of place but if you can prouve that he considered himself part of the Maghrebian community as you call it I will happily leave the matter. Domdeparis (talk) 21:20, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

I have a lot of friends pied noir born in Tunisia or morocco who happily say that they are Tunisian or Moroccan but i have never heard them say that they are Maghrebian it does not have the same meaning here. It would be much truer to say that Wolinski was part of the Tunisian community.

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Hello again I don't have a problem with your page per se, but I do have a problem with the link to it on the page concerning this person as you are suggesting that being born in a place "automatically" makes you part of that community when you are elsewhere. The term Maghrebian is a somewhat artificial one and is often used as a veiled racist term here in France to talk about the Muslims from Algeria Tunisia and Morocco. The term is contested by a certain number of Berbers who prefer the term Tamazgha. The problem with defining all the people born in this area as being part of a community suggests that each person feels part of this community. The area is much too large to call it a community. I have never heard on of many North African Muslim friends refer to themselves as being Maghrebian and nor do the Jewish ones. They will say that their origins are Moroccan, Tunisian, Algerian, Sephardic, Pied Noir, Berber or Kabyle. For me it would be the same as if you created a North West European community for example and saying that the French British German Dutch Belgians are part of the same community or an Asian community saying that anyone born in Japan China etc regardless of their origins are automatically part of that community. My grandfather was born in Ceylon (as it was at the time) and he felt very attached to the island but did not feel he was part of a larger community including all the people from that region of the world. That said he could have done so but as he never said it I would not feel legitimate in writing that or linking him in any way.

I hope you understand more now why I do not think the link is relevant.

--Domdeparis (talk) 14:04, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

I think that to speak about North African Communities is a much more judicious choice as lumping everyone together is a little dangerous (France has a chequered history concerning its relations with these countries and the amalgam is too easy) and it suggests a unity that doesn't really exist. If you want to add a link to a particular community I would suggest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied-Noir

--Domdeparis (talk) 16:44, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

You're right there are other communities that are large but once again to link someone to a particular community that covers 5 different countries a multitude of languages just as many ethnic groups à multitude of religions, nationalities etc needs proof that he felt part of that community IMHO and in reality from experience there is not a single community feeling --Domdeparis (talk) 18:12, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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Excuse my curiosity, you are going to make an album on the culture of other countries.

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Sorry the delay. But a funny thing happened to me during these days taking pictures where I live, and I went to Lake Izabal to take some pictures and I dropped the camera into the lake. --Arthur Colignón (talk) 02:13, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

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As requested, I uploaded File:Rue_de_l'Orme_(Paris),_10.jpg. Ugly recent building in an ugly quarter. It is actually embassy of Burundi.
Best regards. --Tangopaso (talk) 21:51, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

For the italian schools, there is already File:12 rue sedillot 75007.JPG with a plaque about italian school. And for the swedish school, there is Category:Église suédoise de Paris

I will look for Scuola Elementare: 3 bis Avenue de Villars - 75007 Paris. --Tangopaso (talk) 22:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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For the stub, I think you have to go in the discussin-bar link in Italian Wikipedia, for the School marcpni it will be my work! Happy week end! Rei Momo (talk) 08:51, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

I put the reference "4" in the English page, and I made the red link on Italian page of Gugliemo Marconi with the references "30" and "31". Soon I'll open the Italian page. Rei Momo (talk) 09:09, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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Szkoła Narodowa Polska w Paryżu

I cannot find a list of other similar schools of Poland in other countries, but I found sources for this one - including at least one (Polish) academic article about it's history and significance, so it's clearly is notable. It also has entries in Polish traditional (print) encyclopedias. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:47, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Wait, I just found a Polish NGO listing Polish schools abroad: [11]. Also, according to the Polish Ministry of Education page on this ([12]) Polish schools abroad are under the care of this organization ([13]). It has its own list ([14]), through most of the materials are in Polish. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 06:51, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

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I don't think I uploaded them, but I'm sure I have some even worse pix on the same day. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 14:33, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

I checked and all photos on that date are on my old (partially broken) computer, but I should be able to get them (maybe after the New Year?). It might be easier for me just to go get a new better pic. I can also get South Philadelphia High School. I see you know about the anti-Asian violence there - was it a year or 2 ago? Let me know if there are other school in Philly to snap. I'd guess that there is something in SW Philly, maybe Bartram High School? Smallbones_(smalltalk) 15:43, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

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If you need the functionality of two templates, have the template take a parameter so that in one mode it only shows the schools in Philadelphia, in the other mode it shows all schools. Personally, I don't think you need "dual functionality" - a template that lists all such schools statewide is enough.

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Here it's going well, but I think this Christmas we will not have snow...

I opened this page today and I'm asking you, please, some minutes to read it and correct my mistakes. Thanks a lot for your precious help and Merry Christmas and Happy New yer to you and all your family!

Rei Momo (talk) 23:26, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Season's greetings!

Hello WhisperToMe: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Esquivalience ^t 00:09, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

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WikiProject Catholicism

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Farflow

Hello. I happened to see you edit a lot of articles about or on Pakistan, but you're not Pakistani. Just randomly wondering, why do you have such a particular interest in our country? Have you lived or resided in Pakistan? Please don't take it the wrong way (I don't know why I thought asking this might be rude), but I was just randomly wondering. :O. --Farflow (talk) 20:57, 25 December 2015 (UTC)