User:Oshwah/TalkPageArchives/2023-08

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Request for rollback permissions

Hello there! NotAGenious (talk) 17:15, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I sent it. Anyways, I saw you on this list, and thought I'd give it a go. I've been doing counter-vandalism work for a few weeks, and it has been great to be able to help that way. Especially interested on trying Wikipedia:SWViewer, as I thought that could make my work more efficient. I use Twinkle. I hope this doesn't come too soon, as I don't have that many mainspace edits, but I've read all the guidelines and I do believe that I understand the use of rollback and the difference between edits of good and bad faith.

Thank you for your time! NotAGenious (talk) 17:22, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

NotAGenious - I would normally say that your tenure is a bit short and that your contributions haven't spanned enough time for me to adequately gauge your fitness for being granted the user rights. However, from the contributions that you do have, my spot-checking shows that you're properly identifying vandalism, reverting the right edits, and leaving adequate user talk page warnings. If you kept up the good work and continued with consistent participation in reverting disruption like you're doing, I don't think you'd have a problem at all being granted rollback. With this in mind, I'm going to grant you the permissions, but with an expiration of one month. When it expires, come back and let me know. I'll take a look and make sure that you're using rollback within Wikipedia's policies, and I'll grant them to you permanently. Please make sure that you review the message I left on your talk page that details the proper use of rollback, and when you're not allowed to use it. Other than that, good luck! Let me know if you run into any questions or need help with anything. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:32, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Lookingforjustice2 (20:05, 3 August 2023)

Hello,

First time here. I appreciate your help. How do I start a new page on a new person? --Lookingforjustice2 (talk) 20:05, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Lookingforjustice2! Welcome to Wikipedia! Before you start down that pathway, I would go through Wikipedia's getting started page and Wikipedia's new user tutorial. They will be very helpful to you; the tutorial will provide you with step-by-step walkthroughs with performing essential and basic tasks, collaboration with other editors, and with site navigation. When you're ready, visit Wikipedia's my first article page to get started. This page will help you with verifying important information, tasks, and references before you begin writing the article you wish. It makes sure that you don't spend a significant amount of your effort and time creating this article just to later discover that it doesn't meet Wikipedia's requirements and is deleted. It takes at least 5+ hours of total time to write everything and put together a complete first "draft" before you begin revising, improving, and adding more content to it. Use the resources on that page to make 100% sure that the article subject you wish to write about is notable and should have its own article. Please let me know if you have any more questions, and I'll be happy to help. Cheers and good luck to you! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 21:20, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Ramchanderrao Hyd Advocate (00:01, 5 August 2023)

Hi, need help creating a New wikipedia page. Pls advise. Thanks in advance. --Ramchanderrao Hyd Advocate (talk) 00:01, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks

Appreciate your quick action on that, I'm always just a Guest in there these days. Shearonink (talk) 16:54, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Shearonink - No problem! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:38, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Your block of 184.56.178.88

Quack, quack. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 03:34, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Rather obvious now. Going to AIV. –Skywatcher68 (talk) 05:07, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

CheckUser?

I suspect that the two recently registered editors at Minnita Daniel-Cox are actually the same person. Could you check? –Skywatcher68 (talk) 04:25, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

The usernames give it away. They're not exactly trying to hide since one is her WP:REALNAME and the other refers to a group she made. I'd just talk to her—there doesn't appear to be any intentional sock puppetry. Reaper Eternal (talk) 04:40, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Please self-revert your unblock of Panda619

Hi, Oshwah,

Per WP:RAAA, administrative actions should not be reversed without good cause, careful thought, and (if likely to be objected to), where the administrator is presently available, a brief discussion with the administrator whose action is challenged. You've just unblocked Panda619 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) without any on-wiki discussion, based, as far as I can tell, on a misunderstanding of the full circumstances of what they were blocked for, and without complying with the terms of RAAA.

In the immediate aftermath of the death of Queen Elizabeth II, they replaced her article with an image of Chief Keef blowing smoke, accompanied by the words "RIP Bozo". This is a meme meaning, essentially, "I'm glad you're dead". I wouldn't expect the average admin to know that—I didn't at the time—but I don't understand how you got to the point of both unblocking them and even unrevdelling the diff without actually looking up the phrase "RIP Bozo", or checking in with a single other admin, such as El_C, the blocking admin; Yamla, GeneralNotability, or Ritchie333, who declined unblock requests, with Richie revoking TPA for this second BLP/BDP violation; Girth Summit, who warned and opposed an unblock; JJMC89, who declined a UTRS unblock request and tempbanned them from UTRS; or even Floquenbeam, who openly considered a reduction to pageblock and then decided it was inappropriate to do unilaterally.

At no point in these appeals has Panda619 ever apologized for what they did. A while after they lost TPA, I told them in #wikipedia-en-unblock ^connect (where they've now convinced you to unblock, with no other admins commenting) that they were not going to be unblocked, because in appeal after appeal they persisted in a narrative of "I did nothing wrong, but I won't do it again", without explaining why we should trust the latter. Even in their comments in -en-unblock, they say (noting that -en-unblock is a non-private channel per its topic)

as you know she died, I was happy, I am Indian, who reads lot of history and politics, I assume you know about British empire's atrocities, so at spur of moment I did that as a joke

This 1) should have served to make you reconsider your impression that this was "only" vandalism, not a BLP violation, since they clearly perceive it as having been a comment on her death, and 2) is in no way an apology, nor an indication that they won't do the same in the future.

So now the arc of this is that they introduced a serious BLP/BDP violation on an article that was getting some of the highest views any article ever has, still seem to feel that doing so was a reasonable expression of their political frustration, and have now been rewarded with an unblock despite showing no remorse.

This is extremely reckless adminning, and if I sound pissed here it's because I am. Please immediately reblock and re-revdel, and take the matter to AN for a community unblock request if you wish.

For the full context of those not in the channel, here is the full -en-unblock discussion (again, non-private per channel rules)

10:48 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 !admin Appealing for unblock for my account after almost an year, with standard offer, What did is was completely unacceptable, i tried to appeal at that time, but due to severity of the situation, I totally understand why things happened as it happened, I miss editing for Wikipedia, I really want to continue contributing in many categories, so am
10:48 AM hoping that I can get unblocked and making productive edits and I assure you nothing like that will ever happen again, It was not right | Panda619
11:06 AM |!admin Appealing for unblock for my account after almost an year, with standard offer, What did is was completely unacceptable, i tried to appeal at that time, but due to severity of the situation, I totally understand why things happened as it happened, I miss editing for Wikipedia, I really want to continue contributing in many categories, so am
11:06 AM hoping that I can get unblocked and making productive edits and I assure you nothing like that will ever happen again, It was not right | Panda61|
11:06 AM O<•Oshwah> Guest10: What's your account's username?
11:06 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 Panda619
11:07 AM O<•Oshwah> One moment.
11:08 AM Okay, let's talk about it. What happened here? You were caught using more than one account, then two years later blocked twice for BLP violations. That's pretty serious. ;p;
11:08 AM lol*
11:11 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 that different account usage was not meant to abuse wikipedia, i stopped after an admin said its not allowed, I just wanted different accounts for different topics,
11:11 AM and
11:11 AM BLP violation block was once, i don't know why it says twice and it is indeed serious, I should not have done that
11:11 AM O<•Oshwah> What were the other accounts usernames?
11:12 AM Just to check their contributions.
11:12 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 i dont even remember, ill check and say
11:12 AM O<•Oshwah> Okay please do..
11:12 AM I just don't want to see GHBHE.
11:13 AM I don't think that's the case here, but I wouldn't be doing my due diligence if I didn't ask. :-)
11:13 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 my other account was 619XXXX
11:13 AM O<•Oshwah> kk
11:15 AM Guest10: Well, I don't see incivility or abuse being posted when you were responding on your user talk page.
11:15 AM You were having a reasonable debate IMO.
11:16 AM Guest10: Is this the only other account you had? Are there more/
11:16 AM ?*
11:18 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 yeah i did some stuff, i still understand wikipedia is not the place for it
11:18 AM no, its just in 2019, i wanted to create two accounts for history/politics and anime stuff
11:18 AM and then forgot one of the password
11:18 AM another account was XXX619
11:18 AM I explained about it here and an admin unblocked my after agreeing to use one account
11:18 AM https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Panda619/Archive_1#Blocked
11:19 AM O<•Oshwah> Yeah I saw that. No worries.
11:20 AM Guest10: So what about this edit to Elizabeth II where you replaced the page with an image of Chief Keef and with "RIP" content underneath?
11:20 AM Looking at this diff, I don't think this is a "serious BLP violation" as said when the edit was removed.
11:20 AM But I'm calling this vandalism.
11:21 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 well due to recent death, i guess it was considered as such
11:22 AM O<•Oshwah> It didn't state anything against her, and the edit you made was unrelated to her. This is not a BLP violation, but it is absolutely disruptive.
11:22 AM Can you elaborate on this edit? What happened? Why?
11:27 AM Guest10: ^
11:28 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 as you know she died, I was happy, I am Indian, who reads lot of history and politics, I assume you know about British empire's atrocities,
11:28 AM so at spur of moment I did that as a joke, it was there for a second I think, then one editor gave me vandalism warning and then lot admins came in and was talking how severe it was and such, and got blocked instantly, I tried appealing, they were still like, nope and I tried and here and UTRS I think, everywhere, nothing worked, one of the admin
11:28 AM told me to wait for 6 months for standard offer, so I did for more than that, I have been missing contributing Wikipedia and I search some topic, Wikipedia doesn't have page on it and I wanted to create it but cannot, this happened too many times, so I thought of appealing again
11:28 AM O<•Oshwah> Okay.
11:30 AM Here's my observation so far: I think you've been honest and I do think that you want to return. Your userpage shows that with userboxes and edits. Many pure abusers will only copy a userpage from someone else in order to throw us off, or not even bother create one.
11:30 AM I'm going to unblock you, but with some stipulations and warnings:
11:31 AM 1. None of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Panda619&diff=prev&oldid=1107301281
11:31 AM That's adding fuel to the fire. Discuss content, not people.
11:31 AM And don't antagonize.
11:31 AM 2. No more of those "joke" edits.
11:32 AM You know better, and that's not acceptable - I obviously shouldn't have to tell you that.
11:32 AM Be civil, follow policy, and KEEP YOUR DAMN NOSE CLEAN! :-)
11:32 AM Okay?
11:32 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 yeah i totally understand all the  stipulations
11:33 AM i would like keep things clean
11:33 AM thank you so much
11:33 AM O<•Oshwah> Guest10: Sure, I mean anyone would. I don't think you'd argue what I'm saying. :-)
11:33 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 yup I know
11:33 AM O<•Oshwah> "Don't vandalize Wikipedia! Wait, let's talk about this" :-P
11:33 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 lol
11:34 AM O<•Oshwah> Give me a few minutes to cross a few wires and I'll get you back on the ship.
11:34 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 okay, thank you so much
11:35 AM O<•Oshwah> 15:35, 12 August 2023 Oshwah talk contribs | logs | checkuser | checks block unblocked Panda619 talk contribs | logs | checkuser | checks block (Per WP:SO. This user has agreed to refrain from incivility and adding content to a BLP that constitutes a violation. If behavior is repeated, Panda619 can be re-blocked without any warning given.)
11:36 AM Stick to one account, too.
11:36 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 yeah been for years
11:36 AM O<•Oshwah> If you need another, name it the same ueername as Panda619, just add "(public)" to the end.
11:36 AM You'll be fine.
11:36 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 oh okay
11:36 AM O<•Oshwah> That way, no one will interpret your alt account as being deceptive.
11:37 AM I have LOTS of other accounts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Oshwah/AlternativeAccounts
11:37 AM (Technically)
11:37 AM But I only use but one actively (Oshwah-TEST).
11:37 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 damn
11:37 AM okay
11:37 AM i think the account is unblocked
11:37 AM thank you
11:38 AM O<•Oshwah> Guest10: Heh, people like to impersonate me. I'm kind of a target for LTA BS. ;-)
11:38 AM Guest10: No problem. I'm counting on you... Please don't make me regret doing this, and please don't have other admins running to me saying "WTF why did you unblock this user?!!!"
11:38 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 yeah I will not, i assure you
11:39 AM thank you for being reasonable
11:39 AM O<•Oshwah> Guest10: No problem.
11:40 AM If you need help or are struggling with something, User_talk:Oshwah - just give me a ring.
11:40 AM I'll be happy to mentor, coach, guide, assist, whatever you need... ;-)
11:42 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 oh I will definitely do that, I was looking for a wiki admin to talk too for somethings, was not really sure whom to talk to though but now i know
11:43 AM O<•Oshwah> I'm the one! ;-)
11:43 AM Happy to help.
11:43 AM Now that you're back, you're free to move about the wiki. Have fun, do good things, stay out of trouble, and (most importantly) be happy.
11:44 AM Oshwah out.
11:44 AM G<Guest10> [https://web.libera.chat] Guest48 yeah, bye, thank you for everything

-- Tamzin^{[cetacean needed]} (she|they|xe) 16:41, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not party to the discussion that led to the unblock, but I do not think this is an appropriate action if performed unilaterally. I think this should have been discussed with the blocking admin at a minimum, and ideally gone to AN for community input. Based on what Tamzin has set out, I understand that they still feel that trolling about a recently deceased woman's death was not something they should have been blocked for; assuming that is the case, I strongly oppose this unblock, and urge you to revert that action and get input from others. We can't look past a flagrant BLP policy violation without some acknowledgement from the user if how inappropriate their conduct was. (FWIW, I say this as someone with no interest in the royal family, who would vote to get rid of them if we were ever given the choice. It's got nothing to do with her status, it's about the obviously disgusting conduct in mocking a recently deceased woman in article space. Girth Summit _(blether) 18:12, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Agreed — I'd recommend reverting this unblock. — TheresNoTime (talk • they/them) 18:19, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Girth Summit - I absolutely agree that the behavior this user caused is absolutely unacceptable in any capacity or any way. I unblocked this user per WP:ROPE. If the user decides to go amok and cause havoc, the block button is simply a few clicks away. We're taught here to use sound and good judgement (of course), but that can extend anywhere. Please understand this: If I'm wrong with what I did, then I'm wrong - and I apologize for the decision I made and I will learn from this and improve. I'm sure that you know that. I'm not here to hurt anyone, and I think that you are a great person. I want to drive the spirit of Wikipedia and our mission - That's all. If someone comes back a year later to apologize and explain (off-wiki evidence that I'm happy to provide), fine. I don't understand what the alarming issue is here. This isn't a "911", which are things both you and I resolve and take care of regularly. Anyone is welcome to chime in, respond, and give their honest thoughts here - even if it disagrees 100% with what I did, or if anyone believes that I violated policy and should be taken to "court". :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:37, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

I don't think you should be taken to court, or even given a hard time - I'm sure you acted in good faith. Three admins have asked you to revert your unblock though - I only ask that you do that, and allow the community to consider an unblock, given the circumstances. Girth Summit _(blether) 19:19, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Done. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 19:47, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. Nothing further from me - if there is a community review of the situation, I'm content to let that go one way or the other without my input, provided this discussion is linked from there - I've already said what I think is needed before an unblock should be considered. Best wishes Girth Summit _(blether) 20:56, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Oshwah, next time you intend on overturning one of my blocks, I'd appreciate at least a courtesy note to that effect. Rather than it hapening as a consequence of some hidden discussion that I'm kept in the dark of, and where my view therefore is automatically discarded. Whether you value my input or not, it's still sort of expected, no? El_C 22:51, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

El C - I apologize, and no problem - I will. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:12, 12 August 2023 (UTC)

Hello Oshwah! This whole thing reminded of another incident I had encountered long ago that had left me perplexed and frustrated[1]. Now, two is not a lot but at least from my perspective, that's two from you against zero from all other admins combined. So, I had to say something.
To bring you up to speed on the earlier incident I mentioned, if you had checked the whole log[2], you would have seen that the user had earlier been stripped of rollbacker and pending changes reviewer perms (harmless compared to what you bestowed) for cause. You gave them NPR which they then went on to exclusively use to pass articles from one undeclared paid editor (not to mention NPR is too important to just grant based on trust in other projects). It caused a lot of stress and timewasting. The only reason I didn't say anything at the time was because I was relatively new here and you are a functionary.
I don't like onwiki actions being taken based on offwiki discussions that had no good reason why they couldn't be onwiki. I have a feeling it's not just me. For one thing, it ought to be your sole responsibility to keep track of those users and what they're upto, which did not happen in that case.
Perhaps you should consider whether you've become the last resort of bad actors who've been shut down everywhere else, like it seems to have been the case this time. Perhaps there is such a thing as too much kindness when it comes to administering a project this size. Regards! Usedtobecool ☎️ 07:01, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Usedtobecool - Thanks for adding your thoughts and feelings to the discussion. I remember that there was a discussion about this at the time. I did give a user the keys that they used to cause a lot of disruption, and I'll own to that. I remember thinking that since another admin had granted the user some rights back, that my thoughts were in-line - they seem to be okay. That did not turn out well at all. :-) Please know this from the bottom of my heart: It does not matter what tools I'm granted, what hats, bells, whistles, and squirt guns that the community has given me - I am not above you in any way, shape, or form. Ever. It's understandable that you held back, being new and all... I just wanted to tell you that for the record. I am not above you and I do not "outrank" you. My user talk page is always open to you, and you are always welcome to come to me with concerns, criticisms, or thoughts. You won't hurt my feelings, and I won't write about how you made me mad in my diary before I go to bed. :-) I'd much rather be made aware of any push-back or opposition for a decision I made or action that I took than to not be made aware at all. Again, I thank you for taking the time to bring your thoughts here. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:53, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you @Oshwah for a comprehensive, reassuring and kind response. That was a heartening read. See you around! Usedtobecool ☎️ 15:43, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia Mobile

Seems like your talk page is only available in the "Learn more about this page" tab, see your talk page in mobile for example. Notrealname1234 (talk) 23:53, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Notrealname1234 - What?!! Weird! What mobile device, browser, and OS version are you using with Wikipedia mobile? I'd like to start an emulator and take a look... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:42, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

I am using an LG K40, chrome 113 and android 9, but it will work with any mobile device, browser and a OS version. Oshwah Notrealname1234 (talk) 14:42, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Can confirm it's to do with the way that the mobile view parses talk pages - it doesn't like custom background colours and the like. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:29, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from DavidKinzieYork (19:49, 14 August 2023)

Hello, my friend David Kinzie York past away Sept. 10, 2019. He was a one hit wonder under the name Dave York, in the music business with his hit song "Beach Party". I have been wanting to create a Dave York page and tell his story. How do I go about this? --DavidKinzieYork (talk) 19:49, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

(by talk reader) @DavidKinzieYork: While I understand your sentiment towards your deceased friend, you are probably not the best person to write such an article, per WP:COI. That said, subjects of articles have to be notable and in this case, you would have to present independent, reliable sources to back up any claims you make. For our notability criterion for musicians you would need a URL to Billboard or the like showing when the song charted. It might be the case that you'll find more sourcing for the song than your friend, which would mean you ought to write about the former, rather than the latter. This is why we avoid writing on subjects where we are personally invested. I always point new editors to our reward board where you could offer a barnstar or other reward for a more experienced editor to take this on. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:03, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Can you help me?

Hi Oshwah, I've seen you around before but I am not sure we've ever interacted. Anyway, this is WikiOriginal-9 but I lost my password and email. I intentionally made that stuff too hard to remember but it's coming back to bite me now since my computer blew up and I can't login anymore. How can I go about proving it's really me and getting my account back? I already tried asking Help:Logging in. If I have an old WP:VALIDALT that edited some of the same obscure pages as WikiOriginal-9, and I login and edit something, will that help prove it's me? 174.251.209.116 (talk) 14:56, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi there! Oof... That's tough. Do you remember your email at all? Did you log into it on another computer anywhere, anywhere at all. I think you need to start with recovering what your email address is that you registered with your account. Then, you can recover your email's password. From there, recovery of your password here will be easy. But let's start at "square one" - your email address? "What was it?" should be your mission now if you don't know what it was. Please let me know if I can help in any way. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:21, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

OK thanks! 174.251.208.182 (talk) 12:40, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Tbkoskie's study

I probably don't have time to participate in that (I was invited), but it sounds interesting. I see you're pursuing it ... if you need help with any of the grunt work, let me know. - Dank (push to talk) 16:44, 15 August 2023 (UTC)

Dank - I will, thank you! I haven't heard anything from that user yet, so we'll see if this even happens at all... ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:22, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Agreed. His materials say that he's presenting in some sense at the current Wikimania, but I'm not getting any hits on Wikimania pages on his name or username. - Dank (push to talk) 02:24, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Dank - I didn't either! I think user is either is going to try and add a presentation to the conference at the very last minute, gave up and moved on, or... I don't know... maybe was just "pulling our legs"? Either way, I'll find out and let you know. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 02:45, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

As a more experienced editor with 274 live edits, I'd like to have rollback permission granted.

When I have rollback, I can access more useful tools, such as the Autowikibrowser and huggle to help me clean up disruption easier. This can help me with my goal of making wikipedia a safer and easier place to be! Grandmaster Huon (talk) 05:46, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

I've looked at this user's talk page. They blank it and that makes it appear no one has posted on it - this never makes me happy about an editor. When I look at the history I find [3] and [4]. I wouldn't grant rollback. Doug Weller talk 06:32, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The talk page isn't being actively blanked, but Grandmaster Huon has configured the bot exceedingly poorly, 1 day & zero threads.

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- Cabayi (talk) 07:09, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

I suggest waiting until he's got 274 thousand live edits. E Eng 15:15, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
😳 Grandmaster Huon (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Declined. Not yet, Grandmaster Huon. I'd like to see more edits and reversions that demonstrate that you understand rollback and that you'll use it properly and within compliance of policy. If you're reverting vandalism and clear disruption, I want to see that you're properly warning users. If they've been sufficiently warned and have continued to be disruptive despite those warnings, I'd like to also see you filing good reports at WP:AIV. Your contributions appear to be constructive and positive; thank you for returning to Wikipedia and for showing everyone here that users deserve a second chance, and that giving them one (if they ask sincerely) is the right thing to do. I just need to see a pattern of constructive reverts over time, and that you have a legitimate need for those user rights. Keep up the good work, and don't hesitate to return in the future and ask for another evaluation for the tools. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:47, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Just a quick note Grandmaster Huon - WP:AWB doesn't require the use of the rollback right, it's a separate right. You'll find the amount of edits required for its use is similar to what you have, but also that is subject to administrative delegation. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:58, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Oshwah, thanks for all you do. Given my own recent re-investigation of this editor, I wanted to link this discussion to a bad revert by this editor Special:Diff/1172834587. By way of explanation, Grandmaster Huon reverted an edit that was improving an article by including immediately verifiable information from the article into the infobox, moreover this edit was from a new account, likely a new editor. —siro χ o 19:17, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
Siroxo - I appreciate you for sharing this with me. This is why I declined their request above; the user doesn't have enough experience yet reverting bad-faith edits. They need to become more proficient and I need to see consistent experience that doesn't come back to them as being a revert for good faith contributions. Thanks again, and I wish you a great day and happy editing. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:49, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Mmnsr (15:49, 20 August 2023)

Hello, A month ago, I've created a Wikipedia article for Ocean Conservation Namibia. I was hoping it would get reviewed but I cannot find my contribution anywhere anymore. Has it been deleted? If so, why? Thank you --Mmnsr (talk) 15:49, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Draft:Ocean Conservation Namibia was deleted on July 26, 2023, per WP:G11. No doubt the reason you are "unaware" of the deletion is because the Mmnsr account did not create the draft; it was created by User:Mbronsted, I assume a previous account of yours? That account was properly notified of the deletion at the time.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:04, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm not Mmnsr. I received the notification and don't understand why it was deleted. Mbronsted (talk) 08:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Editnotices/Page/Talk:Akshay Kumar

Template:Editnotices/Page/Talk:Akshay Kumar has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gotitbro (talk) 23:25, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

👍. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from ItsMeGabeProductions (05:30, 22 August 2023)

Hello, How i find Preferences in Mobile I want to follow a Video on Translation. I specifically want to make pages in Filipino/Tagalog. Thank you --ItsMeGabeProductions (talk) 05:30, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

ItsMeGabeProductions - Good question. As a workaround, can your mobile device handle being able to load the desktop version of the page? There will be a blue link at the bottom of each page titled "Desktop version". That will load the full page. ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 00:49, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes it can handle desktop mode ItsMeGabeProductions (talk) 06:18, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

ItsMeGabeProductions - That's good. Using the desktop version of the site will probably be your best workaround for now. I would message this noticeboard with this information so that someone can take a look at it. Please let me know if I can assist you with anything else, and I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. ;-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:39, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Thank you.I already found it ItsMeGabeProductions (talk) 04:57, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

ItsMeGabeProductions - You bet. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:55, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Explanation

Thanks for the unblock. I scrambled my password because I had been hurting greatly for the past few months from too much caffeine, and I didn't know the cause of my irrational thoughts. By August 15, I was convinced that my mind was going to travel to a different dimension. I gave caffeine up, and now I feel competent to edit here again.

Sorry if I wasted your time. Scorpions1325 (talk) 07:56, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Scorpions1325! No problem, no apologies are needed, you didn't waste my time at all, and I'm glad to see you back! Is your email address still connected to that account? If so, you can hit up the password reset page to try and regain access to it. Let me know if I can assist you with anything, and I'll be happy to do so. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:58, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Sadly, no. Scorpions1325 (talk) 08:00, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Scorpions1325 - Dang, that's a bummer. I hate to see an account with just over 200,000 edits not be able to be recovered by you. Really, though, in the end - it doesn't matter. I've validated that the account belongs to you, so nobody should question it. However, if they do, you can send them to me. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:03, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Is it okay if I get all of my rights back? This includes my AWB, Pending Changes Reviewer, Rollback, Page Mover, Extended Confirmed, and Articles for Creation Reviewer rights. Scorpions1325 (talk) 12:51, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Scorpions1325 - Sure, I don't see an issue with that -

Done. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:58, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

The future is now

No idea where my head was at here. -- Ponyo^{bons mots} 15:50, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Ponyo - It's like The Terminator and Terminator 2 (I refuse to acknowledge all newer Terminator movies released after the first two because they suck); you've been sent from the future back to the present time today in order to either protect the one who will end the war on vandalism, or seek them out in order to terminate them. The question is... Which side are you on? :-P ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 15:59, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Skynet 4 life.-- Ponyo^{bons mots} 16:02, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Ponyo - Remember, "There's no fate but what we make for ourselves." ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 16:37, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Request to take a look at some weirdness

I can't quite tell what is happening with IP 84.64.168.121. Could you take a look at what is happening? NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 20:39, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi NightWolf1223! Sure, I'll sit down here in about 20 minutes and I'll take a look. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:19, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Sounds good. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 23:21, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

NightWolf1223 - Ponyo beat me to it - the shenanigans by IP address have been handled. Feel free to message me any time I can help with something. You're also welcome to use WP:AIV or other noticeboards if I'm not around. :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:45, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I like to avoid ANI whenever. I just hate drama. I will keep AIV in mind for next time. NW1223<Howl at me•My hunts> 04:26, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

NightWolf1223 - You're always welcome to take issues straight to me here as well. It's not a problem all. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:37, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

I am new user. It is not deleted account How should I be good user this account?

I am new user. It is not deleted account How should I be good user this account? Yangaroo (talk) 23:27, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Yangaroo - Start here, then go here after you've completed the tutorial. This will give you a lot of great help and information for brand new editors. Welcome! If you run into any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to help! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:46, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

User:American Airlines Flight 77

Thanks for deleting that hoax of theirs. You also may want to username-block as well. 47.227.95.73 (talk) 00:53, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi there! I was considering whether or not the username was egregious enough or not to warrant a block, but this situation is very borderline and very close. When it comes to these situations, I err on the side of leaving well enough alone until they repeatedly engage in other disruption. Then I'll block on both reasons. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:05, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Question from Retired Firefighter (03:49, 31 August 2023)

Greetings: This my first time to use this service. I have looked up a few things in the past but now I need to research a fraternal organization. I have an early California photo of men wearing like garb with banners and would like to post to see if anyone knows anything about the organization. --Retired Firefighter (talk) 03:49, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi Retired Firefighter! Welcome to Wikipedia! Have you tried asking your question at the Teahouse? Wikipedia may not be the best place if you're looking for a very old fraternity and need someone that's familiar in the area to chime in. We write articles based on the subject's notability as well as the available reliable sources that can be researched and found. If it's a digital image, have you tried doing a reverse image search on a web search engine like Google? That would be the direction that I would start. Please let me know if you have any other questions or need additional help. I'll be more than happy to help you or guide you in the right direction. :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 04:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome cookies!

I love the community here and have stalked many talk pages and general discussions over the years and finally decided to join. I am very intimidated because I want to help and want to learn all the ways to edit and create. With your info lists and awesome directories, I am excited and less scared to add a comma :) I appreciate you tons and I hope you have an awesome day/night! UndercoverMoviePlug (talk) 06:47, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Hi UndercoverMoviePlug, and welcome! Don't be intimidated; we have a useful getting started page as well as an interactive tutorial that will show you around the site and provide you with important walkthroughs and lessons. I'd take some time and go through both of them. If you need any assistance with anything, let me know and I'll be happy to help! :-) Cheers - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:08, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:47, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Gerda Arendt - Jeez... I honestly can't believe that it's really been that long. Time really flies once you become an adult and get into the routine of "every day life"... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:09, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Woah, 7 years is a lot! Congrats! NotAGenious (talk) 19:14, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

NotAGenious - Thank you! My account's age is 16 years and 8 months now... A lot has happened since I was a bored sophomore in High School. ;-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 20:48, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

What is wrong with you?

So apparently PudseyGrammarSchool is a name that can get me banned? THE ACCOUNT HASN'T EVEN EXISTED FOR 10 MINUTES! IDC what the rules and conditions say this is some actual crap. LogoNerds (talk) 22:36, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) LogoNerds, it was a softblock. You were allowed to create a new account, which you did. LilianaUwU ^{(talk / contributions)} 22:38, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

LogoNerds - Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for creating a new account. Per Wikipedia's username policy, your username cannot be promotional, meaning it cannot "represent the name of a company, organization, website, product, musical group or band, team, club, creative group, or organized event." This is why your account was blocked. If you had read the message I left on your user talk page, it explains and details what I did and why. The block was only a soft block, meaning that it only applied to the account itself. It allows you to either log out of that account and create a new one (which is what you did), or request the username of that account be changed to something else. I apologize if the block was confusing; I assure you that it was only to make sure that accounts comply with the username policy. Now that you're using a new account, you're free to edit as you would before. Please let me know if you have any questions, and I'll be happy to answer them and assist you. :-) Best regards - ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 23:52, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

LogoNerds - please don't make changes like Special:Diff/1173199871, this is not suitable, and you should not edit that page directly as you clearly have a conflict of interest. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 08:00, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

@LogoNerds: I believe Lee Vilenski meant to link to Wikipedia:Conflict of interest in the reply above. --CiaPan (talk) 08:31, 1 September 2023 (UTC)