Talk:Personal cloud

Notability

I created this page and I think its very notable in today's technology world. Please give me feedback on why it might not meet the general notability guidelines.

Gk9999 (talk) 18:15, 29 May 2014 (UTC)Gk9999

Hello, Gk9999. Just believing is not enough. Please prove it. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:26, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me, any idea how I go about doing this? The personal cloud is such a dominant part of computer culture nowadays that I was actually surprised there wasn't a Wikipedia page already. I'm sure I can find many articles that talk about the importance of personal cloud, but where am I supposed to put it?

Gk9999 (talk) 22:25, 30 May 2014 (UTC)gk9999

This link might help shed light on the notability of this topic: https://econsultancy.com/blog/64613-why-the-personal-cloud-will-be-as-disruptive-as-the-personal-computer#i.1txjwy8r5dehbv

Gk9999 (talk) 17:09, 3 June 2014 (UTC)gk9999

Ambiguity

At the moment this article focuses on only one of the ways the term is used. I'm aware of at least three:

• Devices you own that provide cloud-like service to an individual (this is basically a private cloud where the operator is the individual)
• The set of information that an individual has posted or deployed to one or more cloud services (user data)
• The set of content and services to which the individual has access, for example online movies and television. Some use the term for a single provider, others for the whole set across many different providers.

The article should ideally expand on all three of these, and explain the ambiguity. I don't know whether we need a disambiguation page, or whether we can do it all in the one page, since I don't think the total text is all that large. Markjeff (talk) 14:59, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

I would strongly agree with Markjeff. As the page stands now it tends to add to the confusion between the subject of a "cloud" opposed to "cloud storage". This article clearly illustrates the cloud storage application of a private cloud, however does not touch on the topics Markjeff added and topics such as garage cloud computing or hybrid cloud (with focus on the local portion of the cloud as the hardware stored locally). With nVidia GRID and PCoIP a local personal cloud for your home or family is already a reality. Chris Guilbault (talk) 20:04, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

I agree, and I think that in our conversation he we've hardly even started to touch on some of the features I find most valuable in cloud services. I'm a fairly heavy user of Google Apps for Work, which provides a lot more than just data storage. (Even just talking about GaFW is a bit confusing, since GAfW technically appears to refer to a paid commercial service, through most of what GaFW does is also available on free Google accounts, including e-mail if your Google account is a user@gmail.com account. But note that a free user@mydomain.com Google account, though not having e-mail, still has the applications, including an office suite, calendaring, and file storage.) I see several facets to this.

• High-reliability data storage, such as Google Drive and the storage part of Google Calendar. When you store this kind of data on your own server, you're responsible for ensuring that it's available and survives network outages, drive failures, and so on.
• The provision of on-line applications, such as Google Docs, Sheets, and Slides, which is tied into the storage provided by Google Drive, and Google Calendar, which can use both data stored on Google servers and data stored on other servers.
• The provision of off-line access to the data, such as being able to keep copies of Google Drive files and your calendar data on your phone or tablet, and having it synchronize changes to these data back to the cloud when you go back on line again.
• Collaboration and sharing, including between cloud systems. For example, it's perfectly possible (should someone implement it) for someone to share a file on his personal cloud server with "user@gmail.com" and have your cloud server use Google's authentication service to determine whether the person trying to access a file really is that user. Google may even offer, e.g., the ability to synchronize your personal cloud calendar information with someone who stores their calendar information in Google Calendar, via their API.

I've tried to tweak the article a bit to start to cover these issues, but there's clearly a lot of work to be done here, and I'm not aware of any sources that discuss the obvious ways things can be federated between cloud providers. (E.g., using OAUTH to authenticate users of other services, as in the collaboration point above.) Cjs (talk) 21:49, 13 October 2015 (UTC)

Terrible lede

The Gartner definition is all kinds of wrong. Deku-shrub (talk) 19:08, 12 May 2016 (UTC)