Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ancient Noronshasht
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The result was delete. Beeblebrox Beebletalks 22:45, 7 January 2025 (UTC)
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Hoax. zero sources. I continue processing nonsense that Numulunj pilgae (talk · contribs) pumped into Wikipedia who was (ab)using the sutuayion that nobody cares about Mordvins/Mokha/Erzya in enwiki. --Altenmann >talk 23:36, 31 December 2024 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Archaeology, Geography, and Russia. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:21, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Altenmann: Could you do a better job describing why this is a hoax? I'm having difficulty finding most of the sources, but there is at least one article that is web-readable in Russian (Ikonnikov and Baisheva) which might discuss this, there are a few maps, but I don't know Russian and can't figure this out further. SportingFlyer T·C 04:19, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @SportingFlyer: It is a hoax because it is invented. The article of Ikonnikov and Baisheva is about the Goldeh Horde town of Mokhshi in place of the village of Narovchat (Russian: Наровча́т, Moksha: Норзяд). References are fake.For example it says Noronshasht was the capital of the medieval Moksha kingdom Murunza referring to Карамзин Н. М. История государства Российского: - which says nothing of the kind. In Moksha language the village name is mdf:Норзяд and historical names are Нуриджан (Наручать, Наручадь (Nuridzhan ( Naruchat , Naruchad )). The Greek name νορονςαςτ is a fabrication --Altenmann >talk 04:42, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. In that case, I'm leaning delete, but again I can't read the sources, so the closer can feel free to discount my !vote if this is somehow incorrect. SportingFlyer T·C 05:58, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- @SportingFlyer: It is a hoax because it is invented. The article of Ikonnikov and Baisheva is about the Goldeh Horde town of Mokhshi in place of the village of Narovchat (Russian: Наровча́т, Moksha: Норзяд). References are fake.For example it says Noronshasht was the capital of the medieval Moksha kingdom Murunza referring to Карамзин Н. М. История государства Российского: - which says nothing of the kind. In Moksha language the village name is mdf:Норзяд and historical names are Нуриджан (Наручать, Наручадь (Nuridzhan ( Naruchat , Naruchad )). The Greek name νορονςαςτ is a fabrication --Altenmann >talk 04:42, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - a made up in one day with a dash of WP:OR. Bearian (talk) 02:07, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
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