Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Three Smiths Statue
Files in Category:Three Smiths Statue
[edit]The statue is protected by copyright in the United States and isn't permitted on Commons until 95 years after publication.
- File:3sepp.jpg
- File:Juhannus-helsinki-2007-107.jpg
- File:Kolme seppää.jpg
- File:Three Smiths Statue - Felix Nylund - Helsinki, Finland - DSC03420.JPG
Stefan4 (talk) 08:41, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
Keep its Finland, Europe - no USA. --Ralf Roleček 09:58, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, Commons requires the statue to be in the public domain in both the source country and in the United States. See COM:L#Interaction of United States copyright law and non-US copyright law. --Stefan4 (talk) 10:56, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Then we have to copy this files manually to all national projects. This is Nonsense. --Ralf Roleček 11:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the problem is that US copyright law is stupid. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:08, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- This pictures are usuable in all countrys of the world, maybe only not in en. --Ralf Roleček 12:27, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- The pictures are unfree in the United States (copyright expires 95 years after publication) and Samoa (copyright expires 75 years after the death of the sculptor) but appear to be free in all other countries in the world. A few countries such as Spain and Colombia have a copyright term which is longer than life+70 years, but apart from USA and Samoa, all of those countries have freedom of panorama for sculptures. This is what makes US law so annoying. --Stefan4 (talk) 12:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- The Artist is died 1940, this are more then 70 years. --Ralf Roleček 10:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
Info the images that are used in the German Wikipedia are saved locally. Other Versions coming soon. --Ralf Roleček 18:49, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- The Artist is died 1940, this are more then 70 years. --Ralf Roleček 10:46, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
- The pictures are unfree in the United States (copyright expires 95 years after publication) and Samoa (copyright expires 75 years after the death of the sculptor) but appear to be free in all other countries in the world. A few countries such as Spain and Colombia have a copyright term which is longer than life+70 years, but apart from USA and Samoa, all of those countries have freedom of panorama for sculptures. This is what makes US law so annoying. --Stefan4 (talk) 12:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- This pictures are usuable in all countrys of the world, maybe only not in en. --Ralf Roleček 12:27, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, the problem is that US copyright law is stupid. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:08, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Then we have to copy this files manually to all national projects. This is Nonsense. --Ralf Roleček 11:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, Commons requires the statue to be in the public domain in both the source country and in the United States. See COM:L#Interaction of United States copyright law and non-US copyright law. --Stefan4 (talk) 10:56, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
- Keep I believe that the sculpture is now in the public domain in the United States, because the artist died more than 70 years ago (1940). Daderot (talk) 11:36, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
- The copyright term in the United States is 95 years since publication, not 70 years since the death of the artist. This was published in 1932, which is less than 95 years ago. --Stefan4 (talk) 11:38, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Comment This is an interesting case. On the one hand, Stefan4 has a point: On the URAA date of January 1, 1996, works by this artist were still protected in Finland, and so the 95 years after publication term applies now in the U.S., though copyright has expired in Finland and most other countries. However, this is a statue in a public place. If this were a case of freedom of panorama, and the statues were still protected in their country of origin but depiciting them were allowed due to FOP (if it were a different country than Finland ;-) ), I think there would be no deletion request at this time - as far as I'm aware, it's not really clarified yet whether U.S. FOP (buildings only) would be applied to works located in countries with a broader FOP scope. And so, at least until now, there are no mass deletion requests for modern sculptures in sculpture-FOP countries such as Germany or the United Kingdom. The question now is: If we're even keeping photos of sculptures that are still protected in their country of origin (and in the U.S. as well), allowed only based on FOP in location country, wouldn't it seem somewhat absurd to delete photos that can reasonably be called more free, as these don't need the FOP exception in the location country? A further twist in this case is that Finland has no FOP for sculptures, which however isn't relevant for these sculptures now... Gestumblindi (talk) 22:39, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
Deleted: The statue is protected by copyright in the US, making them non-free, which is prohibited on Commons FASTILY 03:41, 29 May 2013 (UTC)