Commons:Deletion requests/File:George H. W. Bush - portrait by Herbert Abrams (1994).jpg

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File:George H. W. Bush - portrait by Herbert Abrams (1994).jpg

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This is a 1994 work of Herbert Abrams who, except for service in the Army during WWII, was never an employee of the Federal government. As is the case with the Gerald Ford portrait, the government does not own this copyright. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:47, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Delete I see nothing that remotely suggests that this work should not be speedily deleted from Wikimedia Commons. There is a widespread misconception that anything on a U.S. government site is in the public domain, and to allow this to remain at all perpetuates that misconception, not to mention the violation of Wikimedia policy, which admins must not attempt to overrule. I don’t see this item in the referenced source page, but I do notice that the source page itself is protected under copyright with the note “Copyright 2009 by the White House Historical Association”. Even absent this note, the work itself is clearly by an individual and there is no evidence that the individual was an employee of the U.S. government at the time of the publication of the work or that the contracted work was not subject to copyright. The CENDI group addresses this issue in its page, Frequently Asked Questions About Copyright, at 4.1 If a Work Was Created Under a Government Contract, Who Holds the Copyright?. —Danorton (talk) 18:26, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Comment The image appears at the referenced source URL at the time of the original uploading at archive.org in an inferior form[1]. The parent page to that page indicates that the content is from a copyright work, The Presidents of the United States of America, Freidel & Sidey. [2]. —Danorton (talk) 18:30, 24 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I do not see that, but in any case it is irrelevant. Bridgeman v. Corel applies to all images of paintings. It is WMF policy that there is no copyright in the image of a painting, so that it is not an infringement to take images of paintings from copyrighted works. The only question here is the copyright in the painting itself, which belongs to Herbert Abrams's heirs and will expire in 2073. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 12:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Delete clearly a copyright violation. Also might be considered File:The_Peacemakers_-_background_image.jpg --moogsi(blah) 16:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. We have a full image of The Peacemakers, so this is useful only to the extent that it includes a silhouette from the subject painting. .     Jim . . . . (Jameslwoodward) (talk to me) 18:57, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted: INeverCry 00:26, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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