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Hello I am Kadı. I am an administrator in Commons. Also, I serve as a VRT personnel and global renamer. Sometimes users request oversight actions from me. 3 days ago, I changed visibility of edits on a file because of the uploader's request and I forwarded it to the oversighters but there is no action. I request to be an oversighter, to handle this requests and suppress the edits. Kind regards, --Kadı Message 18:52, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • There definitely is a need for another oversighter. I'm not sure if unwanted location data (which is still present in the metadata, file should be overwritten with changed EXIF to purge the unwanted data) merits oversighting rather than hiding it from non-sysops but maybe others can convince me that it's appropriate. Abzeronow (talk) 19:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Like in your last request, I think the community would like to hear how many requests for OS you made in the last 12 months, and how many of them lead to actual oversight. Feel free to add how long it took to have the OS requests processed. (The last 2 or 3 requests I made were processed within few hours, so I don't actually see any problem.) --Krd 07:46, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Krd, hello. Thanks for your question. Oversight actions are very important which includes users' privacy, and personal datas. I do not remember the number of my requests but 4 days ago I evaluated a request then forwarded to OS mails. 4 days passed, no answer. The request is so basic, it may take approximately 5 minutes. In addition, I do not indicate directly here the requested files for protecting the user's privacy.
    All of us are volunteers here, I do not blame anyone. Commons is a very large project, for example in trwiki we have 4 oversighters, Commons is a very enormous project than trwiki definitely, but in Commons we have only 3. This is definitely not adequate for Commons. I am volunteering here to handle oversight requests faster. In my previous request, you can see this link A steward self assigned OS access to themself in order to handle and emergency action. Kind regards, Kadı Message 09:16, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    An emergency is no relevant example. Also, two Commons OS have edited today. Can we rule out that there is just some communication problem? Krd 13:43, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Krd, I disagree with you. It is a relevant example. Large wikis should use local OS' We are not a small wiki. Kadı Message 15:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Even with more local OS, let it be 10, you will have situations where no one is present for an emergency situation. Volunteers are generally not required to meet emergency situation standard, so and emergency example IMHO is moot. Krd 17:42, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Minorax, Odder, and Raymond: Can you comment if you received the request, and if there is any relevant backlog? --Krd 13:58, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Krd: I can confirm we did receive the request. There is no backlog, but we place lower priority on requests where content has already been revision deleted by an administrator as opposed to content that's visible on the wiki. I had limited access to e-mail throughout last week but I will action the request shortly. I do have to say that this whole discussion is striking me as quite strange where a user is requesting advanced permissions because one (one!) request they filed hasn't been answered to their satisfaction. As demonstrated in our activity statistics, we get a fairly steady number of requests every month and nearly all of them are answered a in a prompt manner as a few of our more active contributors can attest to. odder (talk) 16:20, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Odder, as I said before I do not blame anyone. I am a very active user among the Wikimedia projects. My aim is to help oversighters. Best wishes, Kadı Message 16:36, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As someone who has sent a fair deal of oversight requests, I can confirm that 95% of the time, I get a 0-2 hr Response. I don't see any downsides with another oversighter. Normally the overnighters are very active, but I have had reports that took more than 24 hrs (IMHO the max time an oversight request can take), and another OS would be helpful, especially with @Kadı's timezone and editing patterns. As to @GPSLeo's concerns, WMF Legal will make the call as to if being in turkey is a problem, that's not our job. All the Best -- Chuck Talk 16:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    On my concerns: I just think we need to be more careful with such problems. For the other topic: For real emergencies there is the WMF T&S team and emergency cases do not have to be handled by volunteers. And it is always possible to contact a regular admin in parallel to perform a regular deletion before the suppression by an oversighter. GPSLeo (talk) 18:17, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • You live in country that blocked Wikipedia in the past and the situation regarding democracy did not become better since then. I have the fear that giving you access to such sensitive information you bring you and the project into danger as authorities could try to force you to give information to them. GPSLeo (talk) 16:18, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @GPSLeo, In trwiki we have OS user group. All of the trwiki oversighters do not gave information to anyone. Your fear is irrelevant. Kadı Message 16:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There were multiple of such cases in other countries where the WMF had to ban the users to protect them. GPSLeo (talk) 16:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @GPSLeo, I am also in VRT. I guarantee that I would never do that. Kadı Message 16:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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