Counterpoint Research projects 27 percent market share this year, to Apple's 49.
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I don't know why anyone would ever expect that. I'm amazed at their Pixel line, not because it's an amazing phone, but because they've released phones now for 9 continuous years without breaks or rebooting the product. You can argue that the 2018 model, with the move from LG -> Foxconn, and the 2021 model, with the switch from Qualcomm to Tensor, are soft reboots, but given that the branding and features have more or less been continuous feels like a huge improvement in how Google's consumer products are handled.i was a wearOS early adopter and suffered through several (watch) generations worth of horrible qualcomm tech before bailing and switching to apple. here's hoping that this time around google does better
Would you like a magical pony as well?I'm an iPhone user who wants the following feature combination in a smartwatch:
1. Watch OS (and supporting apps) that respect that my data only belongs to me. This tends to rule out WearOS and chinese brands/mfgs.
2. Watch battery that lasts a week or longer per charge. This rules out most/all Apple watches.
3. Watch has annual depreciation of $50 or less. This rules out most Garmin watches.
That "Other" group would have to be Garmin watches, a few remaining Fitbit smartwatches like the Versa and Ionic
Multiple examples of fenix 5x are available on eBay for the $180 range and it is a 2017 watch. Bought new in 2017 that would easily fit under your $50/yr requirement.I'm an iPhone user who wants the following feature combination in a smartwatch:
1. Watch OS (and supporting apps) that respect that my data only belongs to me. This tends to rule out WearOS and chinese brands/mfgs.
2. Watch battery that lasts a week or longer per charge. This rules out most/all Apple watches.
3. Watch has annual depreciation of $50 or less. This rules out most Garmin watches.
Sounds like you oughta just buy a regular old wristwatch and call it a day. Maybe pick up a used mechanical watch if you're serious about "annual depreciation".I'm an iPhone user who wants the following feature combination in a smartwatch:
1. Watch OS (and supporting apps) that respect that my data only belongs to me. This tends to rule out WearOS and chinese brands/mfgs.
2. Watch battery that lasts a week or longer per charge. This rules out most/all Apple watches.
3. Watch has annual depreciation of $50 or less. This rules out most Garmin watches.
The watch style is such a wild "usability" vs "fashion" balancing act.I’m an Apple Watch user but I have to say that I do like the styles. I prefer the shape of the Apple Watch from a readability standpoint, but it’s refreshing to see something else out there in the market.
Yeah. I want that, too. Plus, it should add $1000 a week to my bank account automatically. I'm willing to wait a couple years for the "and makes me more physically attractive" feature, though.I'm an iPhone user who wants the following feature combination in a smartwatch:
1. Watch OS (and supporting apps) that respect that my data only belongs to me. This tends to rule out WearOS and chinese brands/mfgs.
2. Watch battery that lasts a week or longer per charge. This rules out most/all Apple watches.
3. Watch has annual depreciation of $50 or less. This rules out most Garmin watches.
Nearly every time I pay for something with my Apple Watch (almost everything brick-and-mortar now that Apple Pay has become ubiquitous post-pandemic), the sales person either says "I didn't know you could do that with an Apple Watch" or "I need to set mine up to do that." (Or sometimes, "I don't use that because it allows anyone to steal my credit card number by walking by." I sometimes tell them about the chip in their physical credit cards, which actually can do that (although they're getting more secure these days, too)).I suspect that WearOS will grow. Apple Watch mainly grows as users talk to other users. Android users couldn’t get an Apple Watch, but know friends who have and use one. There’s a lot of demand for an Android equivalent.
I think you ruled out all smart watchesI'm an iPhone user who wants the following feature combination in a smartwatch:
1. Watch OS (and supporting apps) that respect that my data only belongs to me. This tends to rule out WearOS and chinese brands/mfgs.
2. Watch battery that lasts a week or longer per charge. This rules out most/all Apple watches.
3. Watch has annual depreciation of $50 or less. This rules out most Garmin watches.
I get the same "you can do that?!?!?" a lot too.Yeah. I want that, too. Plus, it should add $1000 a week to my bank account automatically. I'm willing to wait a couple years for the "and makes me more physically attractive" feature, though.
Nearly every time I pay for something with my Apple Watch (almost everything brick-and-mortar now that Apple Pay has become ubiquitous post-pandemic), the sales person either says "I didn't know you could do that with an Apple Watch" or "I need to set mine up to do that." (Or sometimes, "I don't use that because it allows anyone to steal my credit card number by walking by." I sometimes tell them about the chip in their physical credit cards, which actually can do that (although they're getting more secure these days, too)).
So they're popular, but there seems to be a breakdown in feature messaging, still.
Other than depreciation this list aligns pretty well with my preferences.I'm an iPhone user who wants the following feature combination in a smartwatch:
1. Watch OS (and supporting apps) that respect that my data only belongs to me. This tends to rule out WearOS and chinese brands/mfgs.
2. Watch battery that lasts a week or longer per charge. This rules out most/all Apple watches.
3. Watch has annual depreciation of $50 or less. This rules out most Garmin watches.
I'm an iPhone user who wants the following feature combination in a smartwatch:
1. Watch OS (and supporting apps) that respect that my data only belongs to me. This tends to rule out WearOS and chinese brands/mfgs.
2. Watch battery that lasts a week or longer per charge. This rules out most/all Apple watches.
3. Watch has annual depreciation of $50 or less. This rules out most Garmin watches.
Nearly every time I pay for something with my Apple Watch (almost everything brick-and-mortar now that Apple Pay has become ubiquitous post-pandemic), the sales person either says "I didn't know you could do that with an Apple Watch" or "I need to set mine up to do that." (Or sometimes, "I don't use that because it allows anyone to steal my credit card number by walking by." I sometimes tell them about the chip in their physical credit cards, which actually can do that (although they're getting more secure these days, too)).
Right there with you. There are DOZENS of us!I had an Apple Watch and consistently forgot to even charge or wear it after the novelty of the first few months wore off. I finally just gave up and bought a cheap-o Casio so I can at least get time looking at my wrist instead of pulling my phone out.
Battery life is the reason I went with Suunto a couple years back.At 9 p.m. Thursday, when the 60-hour period was up, the Apple Watch Ultra still had 56% battery remaining. Used minimally in Low Power Mode like this, it’s realistic the Apple Watch Ultra could continue on and reach 120 hours of use on a single charge, even with another hour’s worth of workouts. That’s five days.![]()
Low Power Mode changed the way I use my Apple Watch Ultra | Digital Trends
Low Power Mode is said to make the Apple Watch Ultra's battery last for 60 hours on a single charge. We found out it doesn't. It can last much longer.www.digitaltrends.com
The secret is evidently doing nothing. In other words, the more your watch does, the lower the battery life. If you get an Ultra and use low power mode you can at least approach a week.
I think "How does Home Depot manage to be so incredibly successful despite so many ways of showing they hate their customers?" could be a thread in itself. Comcast and used car dealers could take notes.And yet Home Depot still doesn't accept Apple Pay. So freaking annoying.
My Tag Heuer is great, had it for years and who cares what it's worth. Like I'd sell it.Sounds like you oughta just buy a regular old wristwatch and call it a day. Maybe pick up a used mechanical watch if you're serious about "annual depreciation".
Are you saying Google Wallet in 2019 used QR codes? Or is this a weird Home Depot thing? Because Google Wallet in 2019 absolutely did NFC, as did Android Pay before that.I think "How does Home Depot manage to be so incredibly successful despite so many ways of showing they hate their customers?" could be a thread in itself. Comcast and used car dealers could take notes.
It really has been a sea change. In 2019, maybe one store in twenty would support Apple Pay, and about the same number would support "Android Pay" but not Apple Pay. Android Pay wasn't really a thing (Google and Samsung each had their own clumsy QR-code-based systems), but the owners never knew which actual manufacturer's system they provided, not that it worked anyway. Whoever had sold them the system told them that Android users outnumbered Apple users, and they didn't need to support Apple Pay. And even those who had Apple Pay couldn't get it to work much of the time.
Five years later? Even the little mom-and-pop stores all support it. Food trucks all support it. Many of the contractors that work on my house take it. Web sites seem to be the last holdouts, but even half of them seem to allow it now. Apple Pay makes up something like 5% of all global card transactions (probably more, that number is from 2021).
People complain about Fitbits not lasting a long time but i got a years old model and only sync it to my phone for workouts and just treat it as a watch/pedometer and it lasts like a week and a half. It's sounds stupid but it's good advice if you don't care about all the features.At 9 p.m. Thursday, when the 60-hour period was up, the Apple Watch Ultra still had 56% battery remaining. Used minimally in Low Power Mode like this, it’s realistic the Apple Watch Ultra could continue on and reach 120 hours of use on a single charge, even with another hour’s worth of workouts. That’s five days.![]()
Low Power Mode changed the way I use my Apple Watch Ultra | Digital Trends
Low Power Mode is said to make the Apple Watch Ultra's battery last for 60 hours on a single charge. We found out it doesn't. It can last much longer.www.digitaltrends.com
The secret is evidently doing nothing. In other words, the more your watch does, the lower the battery life. If you get an Ultra and use low power mode you can at least approach a week.
The big 3 retailers who I am blown away that don't support apple pay/google pay (At least around me) are Home Depot, Lowes, and the biggest surprise Walmart.I think "How does Home Depot manage to be so incredibly successful despite so many ways of showing they hate their customers?" could be a thread in itself. Comcast and used car dealers could take notes.
It really has been a sea change. In 2019, maybe one store in twenty would support Apple Pay, and about the same number would support "Android Pay" but not Apple Pay. Android Pay wasn't really a thing (Google and Samsung each had their own clumsy QR-code-based systems), but the owners never knew which actual manufacturer's system they provided, not that it worked anyway. Whoever had sold them the system told them that Android users outnumbered Apple users, and they didn't need to support Apple Pay. And even those who had Apple Pay couldn't get it to work much of the time.
Five years later? Even the little mom-and-pop stores all support it. Food trucks all support it. Many of the contractors that work on my house take it. Web sites seem to be the last holdouts, but even half of them seem to allow it now. Apple Pay makes up something like 5% of all global card transactions (probably more, that number is from 2021).
I am pretty sure the only watches that meets your criteria are luxury analog watches.I'm an iPhone user who wants the following feature combination in a smartwatch:
1. Watch OS (and supporting apps) that respect that my data only belongs to me. This tends to rule out WearOS and chinese brands/mfgs.
2. Watch battery that lasts a week or longer per charge. This rules out most/all Apple watches.
3. Watch has annual depreciation of $50 or less. This rules out most Garmin watches.
This. The lead analyst for smart watches at Counterpoint is based out of South Korea, and Samsung and LG are subjects of glowing reports by CP:I'm suspicious of this report. When iPod/iPhone/iPad were new, there were plenty reports describing how Apple was going to fail, supported by imaginary future market share figures which usually included a large segment of "Other".
Also, the funding of this report is opaque. Counterpoint Research is an agency for hire. They are paid by industry players to write press releases disguised as market research.
I'm always surprised by how behind Home Depot has been at adopting more secure payment methods--as I recall they were one of the last big stores near me to finally get around to installing chip readers too. You'd think they'd be all over it, given that they had a massive payment data breach a decade ago that they reckon cost them $198 million.And yet Home Depot still doesn't accept Apple Pay. So freaking annoying.
Walmart has been trying to build a CurrentC-like competitor called Walmart Pay. I imagine they don’t see any reason to enable a competitor and pay the extra fraction of a percent.The big 3 retailers who I am blown away that don't support apple pay/google pay (At least around me) are Home Depot, Lowes, and the biggest surprise Walmart.
I’m sure turning off the GPS, microphone, fall detection, WiFi, and raise to activate will stretch the 5 days even further too.I can squeeze out up to 14 days if I don't do any GPS things.
That died years ago:Walmart has been trying to build a CurrentC-like competitor called Walmart Pay. I imagine they don’t see any reason to enable a competitor and pay the extra fraction of a percent.