Not much of a racing fan, but I've always felt the meat-bag has been holding it back.
I'm really hoping we do the obvious thing with this...
After ramping up the performance, we add weapons and counter-measures.
The tech could even be used in autonomous armored vehicles—one team told me candidly that it sees defense as a possible area of development.
This is all interesting, but I'm really interested in why we haven't seen racing with remotely piloted cars (like these big open-wheel ones). It seems to me that it could be very exciting, as once you take the meat bag out of the cockpit, you can then dial up the performance of the cars. If the virtual racers were on site, the latency could be very low and doable.
Of course, that takes the danger out of the remote driver's mind, but there is still a penalty for crashing your expensive race car too often, which is, of course, losing your virtual seat.
With VR and augmented reality, it seems this is doable and would be far more interesting in my mind than watching a bunch of AI race each other.
Shells, bananas and suchlike.After ramping up the performance, we add weapons and counter-measures.
I'm rooting for whomever successfully develops the super horn.Shells, bananas and suchlike.After ramping up the performance, we add weapons and counter-measures.
Oh, absolutely. Personally, the appeal of driverless racing lies in pushing the vehicles' capabilities beyond human limits. Just slapping a motherboard on an otherwise normal Formula car doesn't do it for me.This is all interesting, but I'm really interested in why we haven't seen racing with remotely piloted cars (like these big open-wheel ones). It seems to me that it could be very exciting, as once you take the meat bag out of the cockpit, you can then dial up the performance of the cars. If the virtual racers were on site, the latency could be very low and doable.
That was teased a looooong time ago with Jetson’d episode featuring the football game.This is all interesting, but I'm really interested in why we haven't seen racing with remotely piloted cars (like these big open-wheel ones). It seems to me that it could be very exciting, as once you take the meat bag out of the cockpit, you can then dial up the performance of the cars. If the virtual racers were on site, the latency could be very low and doable.
Of course, that takes the danger out of the remote driver's mind, but there is still a penalty for crashing your expensive race car too often, which is, of course, losing your virtual seat.
With VR and augmented reality, it seems this is doable and would be far more interesting in my mind than watching a bunch of AI race each other.
Haven’t seen any footage of the event yet, but the description that “the cars did repeatedly negotiate the track” does indeed sound as if it might not have been the most exciting spectator sport.Pretty disasterous if you watch any video of the event.
I have seen racing RC cars converted to be autonomous racing that was more exciting.
So, I'm up there with ya. Sure, a real life incarnation of Steve Jackson's "Car Wars" with robots and remotely piloted vehicles would be cool.Oh, absolutely. Personally, the appeal of driverless racing lies in pushing the vehicles' capabilities beyond human limits. Just slapping a motherboard on an otherwise normal Formula car doesn't do it for me.
I'm 100% on board with watching robots and remote drivers compete in 80s dystopian movie-style racing events where the cars are equipped with giant saws, drill bits, meat tenderizing hammers, captive bolt guns and such. Sorta like a mix of "Robot Wars" and democross -- or, like, put rocket engines on a bunch of PT Cruisers and and send them down a Scandinavian rally course.
https://scifi.stackexchange.com/que...anned-robots-that-would-drive-instead-of-walk has a few possibilities. Let us know if you find it! Sci-fis that come true during my lifetime are fascinating to me.As I was reading, I could almost recall there was a sci-fi movie from my youth — maybe even back in the 80s or 90s where —simply as background/atmosphere—there was an event where people cheered for various racing robots.
I know this is a thing. But for me, it's never been about the people in the cars, nor the team or anything people related. For some reason my brain doesn't really compute that as part of the entertainment equation. In fact, it tends to label all of that as "drama" and I really dislike drama.Ask a motorsport devotee why they care about racing and you'll get a few different answers. The heroism, the iconic (sometimes bitter) rivalries, the high levels of driver performance, the melding of human and machine, the roaring noise.
I'm not so sure about that. Because the hardware is fixed1, and the course is closed, the only changes that need to be made are to the software. And that software could be tested in massively parallel environments (EG see all the robotics research being done by shoving several thousand virtual robots into an environment and letting them flop around until they slowly evolve to walk). But a human driver can only learn in a linear time frame. So IMHO the odds are stacked against the human drivers.The cars are impressive, but it will be a long time until they're competitive against human drivers.
It was not. I watched way too much of it and it could definitely be described as a bit of a joke, especially if you don't have any knowledge of what's involved and how severe the time crunch was. As usual I recommend avoiding Youtube comments. Too many people don't understand that nascent technology is gonna be worse than established tech. Shocker, I know.Haven’t seen any footage of the event yet, but the description that “the cars did repeatedly negotiate the track” does indeed sound as if it might not have been the most exciting spectator sport.
Shells, bananas and suchlike.
Without the drivers and prospect of junior series - this… just seems like a soulless series that is more emissions than online racing but also more soulless.
it will be a long time until they're competitive against human drivers.
I don't know, F1 drivers have raced along side the likes of Maldonado and Stroll full well knowing they could crash into them at any second. Seems like racing a computer might be safer?That’s no small thing, as the week prior had seen Pau frantically planning what margins would be safe for Kvyat to take with the TII car.
Please, don't forget the sport-washing. Otherwise, this would be an interesting topic. We use data compiled by Mengele but that doesn't mean he was an acceptable human being.
This is all interesting, but I'm really interested in why we haven't seen racing with remotely piloted cars (like these big open-wheel ones). It seems to me that it could be very exciting, as once you take the meat bag out of the cockpit, you can then dial up the performance of the cars. If the virtual racers were on site, the latency could be very low and doable.
Of course, that takes the danger out of the remote driver's mind, but there is still a penalty for crashing your expensive race car too often, which is, of course, losing your virtual seat.
With VR and augmented reality, it seems this is doable and would be far more interesting in my mind than watching a bunch of AI race each other.
Related to your FPV drone flying, and autonomous vs human control, IEEE published this in 2022:I think that the "high performance" RC-cars would get absolutely demolished by standard human-driven ones. The trick of remote piloting is that you're missing enormous amounts of information that your body picks up - back forces from the wheel, G-forces, the sound of the engine, everything. I fly FPV drones, and yeah you can do all sorts of amazing things with them, but I think it's less because they're high performance and more because when I crash I can immediately fly again. That works with a 3" or even 5" drone most of the time, it's NOT true for 7" drones or bigger, and it's definitely not true for a race car.
Unrelated, but I'm certainly a proponent of RC and autonomous vehicles as sport - but I kind of want to see weapons on them? It would be super fun to watch RC aircraft dogfights in a designated arena area well away from humans.
But is it soulless?Without the drivers and prospect of junior series - this… just seems like a soulless series that is more emissions than online racing but also more soulless.
World records include the autonomous land speed record (192.2 mph), the top speed on-track (180 mph), the fastest on-track head-to-head overtake (177 mph), and most miles of autonomous racing (7,500 miles).
You have already forgotten Marbula E by Jelle's Marble Runs?Maybe just go a step further and do a car-less, driverless race.