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{{o}} This solution is not escalable because you would need 227 links in each of the 227 lexemes that have a translation for the concept "dog", that is at least 50k statements... It is simpler to link the sense to the item with "equivalent concept" and let the software find out all the translations by itself.--[[User:Micru|Micru]] ([[User talk:Micru|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:13, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
{{o}} This solution is not escalable because you would need 227 links in each of the 227 lexemes that have a translation for the concept "dog", that is at least 50k statements... It is simpler to link the sense to the item with "equivalent concept" and let the software find out all the translations by itself.--[[User:Micru|Micru]] ([[User talk:Micru|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 07:13, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
:{{ping|Micru}} But in my example, there is a linked Q-item ({{Q|144}}) but it is not the case for the majority of lexemes. I agree that it is a lot of duplicated information, but I don't think there will be more than 200 translations for each lexeme (it is the same issue in Wiktionary).
:Should we move the datatype from lexeme to sens too? [[User:Tubezlob|Tubezlob]] ([[User talk:Tubezlob|🙋]]) 07:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

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translation

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   Under discussion
Descriptionword in another language that corresponds exactly to the meaning of the lexeme
Representstranslation (Q7553)
Data typeLexeme
Example
  • dog (en) → chien (fr)
  • chien (fr) → dog (en)

Motivation

I think that it is possible to put a symmetric constraint (Q21510862) and maybe a new type of constraint: different language constraint. Tubezlob (🙋) 06:58, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

 Oppose This solution is not escalable because you would need 227 links in each of the 227 lexemes that have a translation for the concept "dog", that is at least 50k statements... It is simpler to link the sense to the item with "equivalent concept" and let the software find out all the translations by itself.--Micru (talk) 07:13, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Micru: But in my example, there is a linked Q-item (dog (Q144)) but it is not the case for the majority of lexemes. I agree that it is a lot of duplicated information, but I don't think there will be more than 200 translations for each lexeme (it is the same issue in Wiktionary).
Should we move the datatype from lexeme to sens too? Tubezlob (🙋) 07:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]