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* {{ping|Pamputt|Fralambert|Pmt|Missvain|MasterRus21thCentury|Beireke1}} {{Bert-packed|Giaccai|Arbnos|Smallison|Dhx1|Sam.Donvil|}} {{ping|Vladimir Alexiev}} {{Ping project|Cultural heritage}} I have created {{P|10221}} but the name of this property is not accurate or correct. The proposal here only covers entities on one of three different UNESCO lists, in this case the {{Q|Q110319947}}. The two other lists available at https://ich.unesco.org/en/lists are the {{Q|Q110319988}} and {{Q|Q110320006}}. Formatter URLs for items on those lists are different from the {{Q|Q110319947}}. The name of this property probably needs to be revised to Representative List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity ID. Or the particular list needs to be included as a parenthetical if it stays what it is now. [[User:UWashPrincipalCataloger|UWashPrincipalCataloger]] ([[User talk:UWashPrincipalCataloger|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
* {{ping|Pamputt|Fralambert|Pmt|Missvain|MasterRus21thCentury|Beireke1}} {{Bert-packed|Giaccai|Arbnos|Smallison|Dhx1|Sam.Donvil|}} {{ping|Vladimir Alexiev}} {{Ping project|Cultural heritage}} I have created {{P|10221}} but the name of this property is not accurate or correct. The proposal here only covers entities on one of three different UNESCO lists, in this case the {{Q|Q110319947}}. The two other lists available at https://ich.unesco.org/en/lists are the {{Q|Q110319988}} and {{Q|Q110320006}}. Formatter URLs for items on those lists are different from the {{Q|Q110319947}}. The name of this property probably needs to be revised to Representative List of the Intangible Cultural Heritage of Humanity ID. Or the particular list needs to be included as a parenthetical if it stays what it is now. [[User:UWashPrincipalCataloger|UWashPrincipalCataloger]] ([[User talk:UWashPrincipalCataloger|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 00:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
*:{{ping|UWashPrincipalCataloger}} actually we may extend the URL formatter such as https://ich.unesco.org/en/$1 with this regex: (BSP|RL|USL)/\d{5} so that it covers the three lists. I see no reason not to use the same property for the three lists. For example, it gives {{Q|2909502}} -> [https://ich.unesco.org/en/USL/01689 USL/01689], {{Q|108443879}} -> [https://ich.unesco.org/en/BSP/01739 BSP/01739], {{Q|2388788}} → [https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/01688 RL/01688] etc. Does it make sens for you? [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
*:{{ping|UWashPrincipalCataloger}} actually we may extend the URL formatter such as https://ich.unesco.org/en/$1 with this regex: (BSP|RL|USL)/\d{5} so that it covers the three lists. I see no reason not to use the same property for the three lists. For example, it gives {{Q|2909502}} -> [https://ich.unesco.org/en/USL/01689 USL/01689], {{Q|108443879}} -> [https://ich.unesco.org/en/BSP/01739 BSP/01739], {{Q|2388788}} → [https://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/01688 RL/01688] etc. Does it make sens for you? [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 08:03, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
* Sure, go ahead and make those changes so that it covers all of them! [[User:UWashPrincipalCataloger|UWashPrincipalCataloger]] ([[User talk:UWashPrincipalCataloger|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 09:06, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
*:{{done}} [[User:Pamputt|Pamputt]] ([[User talk:Pamputt|<span class="signature-talk">{{int:Talkpagelinktext}}</span>]]) 11:33, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 11:33, 31 December 2021

UNESCO ICH ID

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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Authority control

   Done: UNESCO ICH ID (P10221) (Talk and documentation)
Descriptionidentifier of an item in the UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage
Representsintangible cultural heritage (Q59544) (or Intangible Cultural Heritage (Q84036549), to be merged?)
Data typeExternal identifier
Template parameter« ID » dans fr:Modèle:Infobox Patrimoine culturel immatériel de l'humanité
Allowed values\d{5}
Example 1tais (Q2388788)01688
Example 2xòe (Q109438441)01575
Example 3flamenco (Q9764)00363
Sourcehttps://ich.unesco.org/en/lists
Mix'n'match453
Number of IDs in source629
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Formatter URLhttps://ich.unesco.org/en/RL/$1
See alsoWorld Heritage Site ID (P757)
Applicable "stated in"-valueintangible cultural heritage (Q59544)
Distinct-values constraintoui
Wikidata projectWikiProject United Nations (Q15885138), WikiProject Cultural heritage (Q69901417)

Motivation

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Identifier by UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage. I was surprised to see that we do not have yet such property. Pamputt (talk) 08:52, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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WikiProject Cultural heritage has more than 50 participants and couldn't be pinged. Please post on the WikiProject's talk page instead. Pamputt (talk) 19:35, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support --Fralambert (talk) 19:42, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Pmt (talk) 19:54, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support - Great idea and wow, I'm surprised, too. Thanks for proposing this! Missvain (talk) 02:20, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support, очень хорошая идея, тем более что необходимо расширять число свойств Викиданных по культурному наследию не только ЮНЕСКО, но и остальных стран мира - тех же картинных галерей к примеру. — MasterRus21thCentury (talk) 10:50, 19 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Beireke1 (talk) 08:17, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Bert-packed (talk) 10:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Susanna Giaccai (talk) 18:03, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support, an important property for culture.--Arbnos (talk) 22:55, 20 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support Smallison (talk) 18:30, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support --Sam.Donvil (talk) 15:29, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
 Support. I disentangled intangible cultural heritage (Q59544) and Intangible Cultural Heritage (Q84036549) to a large extent, but intangible cultural heritage status (P3259) is a total mess that needs to be cleaned up --Vladimir Alexiev (talk) 14:33, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]