Extension talk:Kartographer

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Mapping services used?

Hi - it would be good if at least one of these two pages explained the mapping technologies being used by Kartographer. I see references to Leaflet and Mapbox within the code, so I assume it's those two, but I could be wrong. Ideally the documentation could answer the following questions:

• What is the full set of mapping technologies used?

  See wikitech:Maps and here

• Are there plans to expand this set in the future?

  I hope so - the current technology will not cover all the Maps/Future Plans, and I do hope to grow it.

• Are the code, and the map data, both completely free/libre to use? (I'm assuming yes, but it would be good for the documentation to state it.)

  Of course - Kartotherian license apache 2.0, OSM data is under ODBL.

• When a map is generated, which parts (of the code and data) come from the MediaWiki installation, and which parts come from outside services? (This is a privacy concern to some.)

  The tiles are generated by Kartotherian service that fully runs on WMF production servers. The data is downloaded every day from OSM. So there is no privacy issues on tile side.

  WikiVoyage currently uses wmflabs-generated layers on top of kartotherian-generated maps, plus NL-wikivoyage still uses wmflabs tiles (which violates our privacy policy). Since the new maps don't offer as much details as a more mature but less salable and stable service, some community members are understandably not very happy to migrate right away, despite the privacy issues. See this discussion.

• How does OpenStreetMap fit into the whole thing, if at all?

  OSM is the main source of the data. Eventually I hope we will add more interesting data sources like Wikidata (for localization and linking to articles)

• Do points of interest (POIs) come exclusively from OSM, or from within the wiki, or both, or somewhere else?

  Both. At this point, there are almost no POIs from OSM on our maps except a few transportation ones. WikiVoyage adds them directly from the articles.

-- Yaron Koren (talk) 12:38, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Yaron Koren, answered inline. --Yurik (talk) 11:10, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

This is all very good to know, although really I would like to see all this information get added to the documentation; I'm sure many people will have these same questions. If you want, I can try adding it in - just let me know. Yaron Koren (talk) 13:12, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Yaron Koren, sure, any help would be great. It's hard to edit from a phone)) --Yurik (talk) 13:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Alright, I just added some of this information to the page; hopefully what I added is accurate. And I modified some of the rest as well. I still think the "Goals" section needs work - it's not clear which goals have been met already, and which haven't - but I don't know enough to feel comfortable changing it. Yaron Koren (talk) 20:31, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Translation

Uhm, how do you/we/I set up a translation page for this, i.e. Extension:Kartographer/sv? Riggwelter (talk) 00:12, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

specifications for this project

Where can I find the specifications for this project? The help documentation is not easy to follow, would like to see what documents were used to base the development of this functionality on? --Traveler100 (talk) 18:55, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Traveler100, are you looking for technical documentation? Something like this? CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 19:59, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

No, more a requirement specification or requested functional document or user need, user guide document. What should it do/deliver. --Traveler100 (talk) 21:37, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

Auto-counter bug

Tracked in Phabricator
Task T141335

In it:voy:Pest#Cosa vedere the counter stops at 99 for all the last listings while it should proceed to 100, 101, etc. --Andyrom75 (talk) 14:29, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Andyrom75, this is by design - Maki icons do not support wide icons that would fit 3 digits. Also, having more than a 100 icons would probably be very confusing to the user, because they won't be able to locate it by number. I would recommend grouping icons by color, e.g. each region would have different color, and each would have an independent index 1..99. --Yurik (talk) 15:17, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Yurik, this is just an example page, but we have also other pages with the same issue. Considering that the old counting system works perfectly (over this topic) can the extension replicate the same behaviour extending the counting over 100 (well, not limiting it below 100)? Thanks for your support, --Andyrom75 (talk) 17:22, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

A curiosity: since the counter is managed by CSS styles (at least in the old system), why you link this issue to the Maki icons? In case you are referring to the icons shown inside the map, well, the previous icons were much more intuitive and since they do not have this limitation, at this point they were also more flexible. So, why have been choosen the Maki icons? --Andyrom75 (talk) 17:27, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

As explained in the Phabricator bug, the old map still works properly, showing the correct numbers (see it:voy:Pest#Come_orientarsi). The only things that we need now is to show the correct numbers in the article (see [[:it:voy:Pest#Altri_parchi]). Since this is not related to the Maki icons, it should be very easy to (temporary) patch it. --Andyrom75 (talk) 13:17, 4 October 2016 (UTC)