Swiss Tanks That Need Adding To War Thunder - World War II Tanks

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In this episode we start our look at Swiss tanks of the World War II era that need adding to War Thunder, ideally as a Swiss subtree in the French tech tree.

In these tanks we have some rather diverse designs, from Czech designed light tanks like the Panzer 39 to the domestically designed Nahkampfkanone 1 and unusual looking Nahkampfkanone 2 tank destroyers, before finally coming full circle to the Czech built Panzerjäger G13.

So join me today as we learn more about these Swiss tanks and why I think they would be good additions to War Thunder!

Intro: 00:00
Panzer 39: 01:10
Nahkampfkanone 1: 06:21
Nahkampfkanone 2: 13:13
Panzerjäger G13: 16:51

Sources
Doyle, H. and Jentz, T. (2001). Jagdpanzer 38 'Hetzer' 1944–45. United Kingdom: Bloomsbury USA.

Ogorkiewicz, R.M. (1972). Swiss Battle Tanks. United Kingdom: Profile Publications Ltd.

Bishop, C. (2002). The Encyclopedia of Weapons of World War II. United States: MetroBooks.

Zaloga, S.J. (2014). French Tanks of World War II (2): Cavalry Tanks and AFVs. United Kingdom: Bloomsbury Publishing.

Tanks Encyclopedia. (n.d.). Switzerland Panzer 39. [Online] Available at: https://tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2-switzerland-panzer-39/.

Czechoslovak Tank Development Map. (n.d.). [Image] Available at: https://imgur.com/fOXx4P0 .

Militaerfahrzeuge.ch. (n.d.). [Online] Available at: https://militaerfahrzeuge.ch/unterkategorie_26_34_333.html.

Tank Photographs. (n.d.). Bayeux Hetzer G13 Tank Destroyer. [Online] Available at: http://tank-photographs.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/bayeaux-hetzer-g13-tank-destroyer.html.

Yuripasholok, 2013, 'Nahkampfkanone 2', Yuri Pasholok's Blog, [Online]. Available at: https://yuripasholok-livejournal-com.translate.goog/4444819.html?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-US&_x_tr_pto=wapp

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Transcript
00:00Hello everybody, Toreno here and today we
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00:26produced tanks, leading us to some rather
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00:49while France does have quite a few 
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01:10Switzerland had brought a number of tanks
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01:36However, as storm clouds gathered over Europe
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02:02who at this point were willing to 
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02:25However, the Swiss did ask for some changes,
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02:45Unfortunately, only 24 tanks were able to
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03:1041, both of which were anti-tank rifles.
03:14Penetration figures for these guns seem to
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03:37having a fairly fast semi-automatic firing
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04:09while the Model 1925 gun was in a 
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04:25when the Panzer 39 was stopped, or maybe one 
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undefined:undefinedbut not terrible if taking shots from the
04:49front, especially against low calibre rounds.
04:52Mobility was pretty good with a top speed
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05:20and power to weight ratio.
05:22Personally, I would suggest 
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05:48was tested with a wooden mock up gun, though
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undefined:undefinedlike it would play like a worse armed Panzer
06:0838(t), though still able to do decent enough
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06:34did its best to not provoke an invasion, it
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07:00in what weapons it could acquire from abroad,
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07:25a match for the Wehrmacht.
07:27So Switzerland was forced to produce the weapons
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07:52like the Marder tank destroyers, though I
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08:10shrapnel and smaller caliber weapons,  
08:12with the sides and rear armour maxing out 
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08:40off of the Swiss built 75mm 
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undefined:undefinedit in combat, there isn’t an 
09:03awful lot of information on this weapon, at
09:05least in the English-speaking world.
09:07I’ve seen some speculation that the armour
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undefined:undefinedAA guns have a muzzle velocity in the low
09:30700 m/s, which is more comparable to the Kwk 42’s
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09:58Being built on the Panzer 39 chassis, it still
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10:24though in game it would be the
10:26former crew complement and I'm not really sure why 
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10:53However, it seems this involved a little more
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11:12Now for the howitzer itself it 
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11:30penetration to other 105mm howitzers,
11:33so like the M4A3 (105), it would 
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11:52moving on to its more advanced successor,
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12:19If it only has HE shells, then 
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12:38this variant should go at a
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13:05domestically designed armoured vehicle I would
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13:31Indeed, the fighting compartment is one large
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14:21in the region of about 120mm at 500m with
14:26APCBC shells, which is still 
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14:50should the need arise.
14:52One other thing about the NK2 that surprised
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15:13so this isn't a massive vehicle all things 
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15:36in game it would definitely be 2 loaders.
15:38The NK2 was quite a good 
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16:29in game, probably at a battle rating of 3.3-3.7,
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16:50I’m most looking forward to!
16:51Of course, with the cancellation of the NK1
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17:18production facilities from scratch.
17:20Of course, Czechoslovakia hadn’t quite gone
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17:4338(t)?” and technically you are correct,
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18:08as used by the German Jagdpanzer 38 (t)’s.
18:12It is also fitted with a muzzle brake, helping
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18:38to bolster its firepower against unarmoured
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19:04being a diesel there should 
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19:27than if the commander had been knocked out,  
19:28though the chances of a shell exploding 
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19:57with many of the survivors being to be sold
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20:17where it would have the same strengths and
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undefined:undefinedit would be nice to see the vehicle represented
20:41in War Thunder and would hopefully bolster the
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21:05any other vehicles you would like me to cover.
21:07I look forward to reading your comments below.
21:10Anyway, that’s it for this episode on Swiss
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