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E Rromane Manuśa si kodole ʒene kaj len pàrtia vaj partićipsaren anθ-e idèă de jekh [[naròdo]] vaj [[nácia]] vaj [[ćhel]] vaj [[endaj]] kaj avel anθar i [[Sudutni Asiya]], Provinsa '''Radjasthan''', thaj '''Pandjab''' anθar e Nordvestuni [[Indiya]] <ref>https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/spotlight/did-you-know-that-gypsies-or-romanians-originally-belonged-to-punjab/articleshow/70379014.cms</ref>, <ref>https://www.hindustantimes.com/chandigarh/gypsies-of-england-have-their-roots-in-punjab-study/story-wpItr0YOS86ztE68Ge7alO.html</ref>, <ref>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8951058/</ref>, <ref>http://www.punjabmonitor.com/2013/04/rishi-saw-bright-future-for-roma-museum.html</ref>.[[File:Roma flag.svg|200px|right]]
[[File:Roma flag.svg|200px|right]]
E Romane Manusha si yek [[sel]] so avel andar i [[Sudutni Asiya]], Provinsa '''Radjasthan''', Thai '''Pandjab''' ander e Nordvestuni [[Indiya]].

==Anav ==
==Anav ==
Jekh teorìa maśkar avere teoriură phenel kë o Anav "Romane" avel andar e Sanskritikano Anav "[[Brahmano|Brahmane]]" e baresdar [["Varna"]] (highest caste Level)
O Anav Romane si andar e [[Romakah]] vaver anav si [[Romashi]] so sas yekh Sel andar e Nordevestuni Indiya. E Puranipen avels andar e Lhil "Mahabharata" Yekh Indokansko Epos O Authoro sas o [[Vyasa]] kothe phene lo, Yekh Rom andar e [[Romakah]] sel
sar Mensa "Romani" O Anav Amare Kultura amaro arta te jivel si, So "Brahmani" andar e Religiona [[Hindipen]] O Anav ([[Jipen]], Kultura, te [[Devel|Devleske]] Kreationa Amare [[Phuv]]).
yobh narshas ando Mashkar le Thargaripen andar e Sherutno Foro [[ Indra-Prastha]] te Putchess e Raih Yudhishthira . So khmaso te das shukar sonekasteri. niner si o anav ando lhil "Vishnu purana".
Romani te Brahmani si yekh lav so andar e Vedikani/Sanskritikani Chiibh aves
so Kares e filosofia te jivel.

Avere manuśa phenen kë o alav “Rrom” avel kaθar i vorba “Dom” kaj sas aver telutno kàsto anθ-e Xindutne kastistikano sistèmo. Von sas dromutne manuśa kaj baśavenas but instrumenturĕnça.

Aver teoria si kë o alav “Rrom” avilo e vorbăθar “Rum” kaj sas jekh them vaj than anθ-e Balkàne kana ël mule ël Rromenqe avile anθ-e Èfròpăqe phuvă.

Aver bàjo si kë maśkar e Rromenθe manuśa phenen kë naj Rroma tha’ Sinti. O alav “Sinti” śaj vi avilo kaθar o germanikano svàto “Reisende” kaj znaćil dromutno manuś anθ-e Nămcicka ćhib, nùma aver teoria phenel kë kamas-avili kaθar o Xindăqo lav, “Sindh”, kaj sas e phurane kherutne phuvă e Rromenqe


Pala dopash anda o mtDNA ai o lineage YDNA sikaven sa mai anglal sar si o [[Sudutni Asiya]] anda kado grupo etničko.
Pala dopash anda o mtDNA ai o lineage YDNA sikaven sa mai anglal sar si o [[Sudutni Asiya]] anda kado grupo etničko.
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*Y-DNA: H1a
*Y-DNA: H1a
*mtDNA: M5
*mtDNA: M5
Ai le kolaver grupuria sikaven sar zhanas anda [[Sudutni Asiya]] ka [[Europa]]:
Ai le kolaver grupuria sikaven sar zhanas anda Sudutni Asiya ka [[Europa]]:
*Y-DNA: I1, I2a, J2a4b, E1b1b, R1b, R1a
*Y-DNA: I1, I2a, J2a4b, E1b1b, R1b, R1a
*mtDNA: H, J, T, U3, U5b, I, W, X.
*mtDNA: H, J, T, U3, U5b, I, W, X.
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*[[Dasikane Roma]]
*[[Dasikane Roma]]
*[[Xoraxane Roma]]
*[[Xoraxane Roma]]

==Buxlăriben==

O Rromano buxlăriben vaj o Rromano Diasporos sas kana e Rromane ʒene avile kaθar e India thaj gele te ʒiven anθ-e avere thema sar i Pèrsia, O Arabithan, e Armènia vaj i Grèćia. Pala akava vaxt, maj but Rroma naśleθar i Èfròpa thaj areslĭne te beśen anθ-e avere thema thaj phuvă sar e Amerika, o Meksiko, e Argentina, i Australia, i Afrika thaj i Asia.

==Ćhib==

Śaj ćitisares maj but informacia pal-i ćhib e Rromane manuśenqi kothe: [[Romani chib]].

== Ròbia vaj Sklavipen ==
E Rromane manuśa sas therde anθ-i ròbia vaj sklavipen kana nakhle but śeliberśa.


== Avrutne phandimata ==
== Avrutne phandimata ==
* [https://de.indymedia.org/node/6957 Die indische Herkunft der Sinti und Roma]
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20031117234809/http://www.philology.ru/liloro/romanes/shapoval007.htm Victor Shapoval - First Pages of Romani History (2003)]
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20031117234809/http://www.philology.ru/liloro/romanes/shapoval007.htm Victor Shapoval - First Pages of Romani History (2003)]
* [http://romani-india.blogspot.com A Romanian blog about Romani people and language (2007-2011)]
* [http://romani-india.blogspot.com A Romanian blog about Romani people and language (2007-2011)]
* [http://www.freelang.net/online/romani.php Romani-English and English-Romani free online dictionary - Renato B. Figueiredo]
* [http://www.freelang.net/online/romani.php Romani-English and English-Romani free online dictionary - Renato B. Figueiredo]
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20101009040344/http://www.liloro.ru/index.htm Лилоро/Liloro Интернетоскири бутори ваш
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20101009040344/http://www.liloro.ru/index.htm Лилоро/Liloro Интернетоскири бутори ваш]
* [https://www.dawn.com/news/211876/hyderabad-romani-hail-from-sindh-claims-dr-kazi
* [https://www.dawn.com/news/211876/hyderabad-romani-hail-from-sindh-claims-dr-kazi Романыпэн Сетевая инициатива, посвященная цыганской культуре Internet Initiative For Romany Culture]
Романыпэн Сетевая инициатива, посвященная цыганской культуре Internet Initiative For Romany Culture]


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E Rromane Manuśa si kodole ʒene kaj len pàrtia vaj partićipsaren anθ-e idèă de jekh naròdo vaj nácia vaj ćhel vaj endaj kaj avel anθar i Sudutni Asiya, Provinsa Radjasthan, thaj Pandjab anθar e Nordvestuni Indiya [1], [2], [3], [4].

Jekh teorìa maśkar avere teoriură phenel kë o Anav "Romane" avel andar e Sanskritikano Anav "Brahmane" e baresdar "Varna" (highest caste Level) sar Mensa "Romani" O Anav Amare Kultura amaro arta te jivel si, So "Brahmani" andar e Religiona Hindipen O Anav (Jipen, Kultura, te Devleske Kreationa Amare Phuv). Romani te Brahmani si yekh lav so andar e Vedikani/Sanskritikani Chiibh aves so Kares e filosofia te jivel.

Avere manuśa phenen kë o alav “Rrom” avel kaθar i vorba “Dom” kaj sas aver telutno kàsto anθ-e Xindutne kastistikano sistèmo. Von sas dromutne manuśa kaj baśavenas but instrumenturĕnça.

Aver teoria si kë o alav “Rrom” avilo e vorbăθar “Rum” kaj sas jekh them vaj than anθ-e Balkàne kana ël mule ël Rromenqe avile anθ-e Èfròpăqe phuvă.

Aver bàjo si kë maśkar e Rromenθe manuśa phenen kë naj Rroma tha’ Sinti. O alav “Sinti” śaj vi avilo kaθar o germanikano svàto “Reisende” kaj znaćil dromutno manuś anθ-e Nămcicka ćhib, nùma aver teoria phenel kë kamas-avili kaθar o Xindăqo lav, “Sindh”, kaj sas e phurane kherutne phuvă e Rromenqe

Pala dopash anda o mtDNA ai o lineage YDNA sikaven sa mai anglal sar si o Sudutni Asiya anda kado grupo etničko. Kaj grupi si:

  • Y-DNA: H1a
  • mtDNA: M5

Ai le kolaver grupuria sikaven sar zhanas anda Sudutni Asiya ka Europa:

  • Y-DNA: I1, I2a, J2a4b, E1b1b, R1b, R1a
  • mtDNA: H, J, T, U3, U5b, I, W, X.

O Rromano buxlăriben vaj o Rromano Diasporos sas kana e Rromane ʒene avile kaθar e India thaj gele te ʒiven anθ-e avere thema sar i Pèrsia, O Arabithan, e Armènia vaj i Grèćia. Pala akava vaxt, maj but Rroma naśleθar i Èfròpa thaj areslĭne te beśen anθ-e avere thema thaj phuvă sar e Amerika, o Meksiko, e Argentina, i Australia, i Afrika thaj i Asia.

Śaj ćitisares maj but informacia pal-i ćhib e Rromane manuśenqi kothe: Romani chib.

Ròbia vaj Sklavipen

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E Rromane manuśa sas therde anθ-i ròbia vaj sklavipen kana nakhle but śeliberśa.

Avrutne phandimata

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  1. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/spotlight/did-you-know-that-gypsies-or-romanians-originally-belonged-to-punjab/articleshow/70379014.cms
  2. https://www.hindustantimes.com/chandigarh/gypsies-of-england-have-their-roots-in-punjab-study/story-wpItr0YOS86ztE68Ge7alO.html
  3. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8951058/
  4. http://www.punjabmonitor.com/2013/04/rishi-saw-bright-future-for-roma-museum.html