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This page is for the proposal of new properties.

Before proposing a property

  1. Search if the property already exists.
  2. Search if the property has already been proposed.
  3. Check if you can give a similar label and definition as an existing Wikipedia infobox parameter, or if it can be matched to an infobox, to or from which data can be transferred automatically.
  4. Select the right datatype for the property.
  5. Read Wikidata:Creating a property proposal for guidelines you should follow when proposing new property.
  6. Start writing the documentation based on the preload form below by editing the two templates at the top of the page to add proposal details.

Creating the property

  1. Once consensus is reached, change status=ready on the template, to attract the attention of a property creator.
  2. Creation can be done 1 week after the creation of the proposal, by a property creator or an administrator.
  3. See property creation policy.

General

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L'Humanité topic ID

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   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifier for a topic on the L'Humanité website
RepresentsL'Humanité (Q1137404)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1French Communist Party (Q192821)→pcf
Example 2Dominique de Villepin (Q131660)→dominique-de-villepin
Example 32024 United States presidential election (Q101110072)→presidentielle-americaine-2024
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.humanite.fr/mot-cle/$1
See alsoL'Humanité journalist ID (P10569)
Wikidata projectWikiProject France (Q10816832)

Motivation

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Beauciup de "tag" réunissant tous les articles.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 06:00, September 17, 2024‎ (UTC).

Discussion

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  Notified participants of WikiProject France  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 08:09, 21 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  Notified participants of WikiProject France - re-pinging, since the previous one was unsigned (and therefore didn't work). --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 09:53, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎beer style

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   Under discussion
Descriptionclassification of a beer based on its style
Representsbeer style (Q1998962)
Data typeItem
Domainbeer (Q44)
Allowed valuessubclasses or instances of beer style (Q1998962)
Example 1Hertog Jan Grand Prestige (Q2176488) → barley wine (Q808329)
Example 2Coors Light (Q5168060) → light beer (Q1814622)
Example 3Grolsch 0.0% (Q61043304) → low-alcohol beer (Q524679)
Example 4Brand IPA (Q19884261) → India Pale Ale (Q1543214)
See alsobeer bitterness (P6088), beer color (P6089)

Motivation

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Beer style is a key classification for differentiating beers by their characteristics, complementing existing properties like beer color and bitterness.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mitsjol (talk • contribs) at 10:43, September 30, 2024‎ (UTC).

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identifiant Les Inrockuptibles d'un sujet

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   Under discussion
Descriptionidentifiant d'un sujet sur le site Les Inrockuptibles (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)
RepresentsLes Inrockuptibles (Q2758142)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1Donald Trump (Q22686)→donald-trump
Example 2Netflix (Q907311)→netflix
Example 32024 Cannes Film Festival (Q119141934)→cannes-2024
Example 4Yelle (Q18574071)→yelle
Example 5Anatomy of a Fall (Q117037697)→anatomie-dune-chute
Example 6Emily in Paris (Q64584978)→emily-in-paris
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttp://www.lesinrocks.com/tag/$1
Wikidata projectWikiProject France (Q10816832)

Motivation

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Plein d'IDs et articles très intéressant. Pas mal de sujet/tags de journaux proposé et déjà sur Wikidata.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 07:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Discussion

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  Notified participants of WikiProject France  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Legonin (talk • contribs) at 07:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

French environmental protection classification

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DescriptionIndustrial or agricultural operations generating risks to health and the environment are regulated in France. The various risks are organized into headings in the nomenclature of installations classified for environmental protection. The dangers, pollution and nuisances of each operation are listed by public authorities.
Data typeItem
DomainQ3151661
Allowed valuesQ125631811
Example 1Raffinerie de Feyzin (Q3417389) → Q125635166
Example 2Chemical factory, Balan (Q16511667) → Q125639692
Example 3ArcelorMittal Dunkerque (Q21164927) → Q125636796
Example 4Q130526075 → Q125635500
Example 5Q123267504 → Q125635414

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Cette propriété est importante pour recenser les dangers pour la santé et l'environnement associés aux activités économiques. Une propriété dédiée permettra d'ajouter les qualificatifs pertinents (dates, références, etc.) pour chaque risque. Arpyia (talk) 08:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Notified participants of WikiProject France

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  Notified participants of WikiProject France. Ping needs a signature to work. Samoasambia ✎ 14:07, 22 October 2024 (UTC)*[reply]

‎operating cost

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Descriptionongoing recurring cost for operating or using an object
Representsoperating cost (Q831940)
Data typeQuantity
Domainactivity (Q1914636), architectural structure (Q811979), facility (Q13226383), artificial object (Q16686448)
Allowed values0-10000000000000
Allowed unitscurrency (Q8142) per unit of time (USD/year, EUR/month, etc)
Example 1F-35A Lightning II (Q17519093)→USD$6.6m/year
Example 2swimming pool (Q1501)→USD$1450/year
Example 3Tesla Model 3 (Q7705507)→USD$623/year
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
See alsocapital cost (P2130)

Motivation

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capital cost (P2130) already captures the initial capital cost of an object (building, vehicle, etc) but there is no equivalent property for capturing the recurring ongoing costs of maintaining and operating an object.

Qualifiers such as determination method or standard (P459) and valid in period (P1264) would be very important to use with this property as there are many ways to calculate an operating cost for equipment or a building. In the Tesla Model 3 example provided (USD$623/year) this was only an estimate valid at a point in time, for the first five years of ownership of a car, and excluding a number of other operating costs such as electricity and insurance.

--Dhx1 (talk) 03:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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  •   Weak support A week support from me, because I think it needs a qualifier of sort. I think the cost of annual ownership can benefit from qualifier of a country, region, city, where it's owned. For example, cost of ownership of Tesla car in Norway and US differ tremendously. Also, I think it would benefit from more time periods like 5 year and so on, but I'm not certain about it. --David Osipov (talk) 12:11, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Comment The time span should be specified using duration (P2047) qualifier; otherwise you need to create items for every combination of currencies with day/week/month/year, which would be a nightmare for editors and data consumers. Dexxor (talk) 17:57, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎effective life of asset

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Descriptionduration of time which an object/asset is expected to be used before needing to be disposed of or replaced
Data typeQuantity
Domainartificial object (Q16686448)
Allowed unitsunit of time (Q1790144) or any other useful unit of measurement for lifespan of an object (kilometres traveled, engine hours, flight hours, etc)
Example 1CT scanner (Q128486784)→10 years
Example 2combine harvester (Q26886)→12 years
Example 3laptop (Q3962)→2 years
SourceExample: https://www.ato.gov.au/law/view/document?DocID=ITD/EF20151C8/00001&PiT=99991231235958
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
See alsodiscontinued date (P2669), service retirement (P730), life expectancy (P2250)

Motivation

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There is no property existing for the expected useful lifespan of an artificial object (such as a machine, tool, vehicle or building) after which it is expected the object needs replacing due to wear and tear, obsolescence, lack of support and lack of maintainability.

This concept is useful in finance for determining the current value of a purchased asset for taxation and financial reporting reasons. It is also useful for consumer items such as toothbrushes, phones, computers which are replaced regularly for reasons of wear and tear and obsolescence of technology.

--Dhx1 (talk) 03:23, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Oppose This varies per product and also the lifespan of a laptop obviously is not just 2 years. --Prototyperspective (talk) 09:46, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My thought with this property proposal is that qualifiers such as determination method or standard (P459) and the references are critical. This property could be used 10 times on laptop (Q3962) all with different sources such as standards for asset management and taxation depreciation schedules of different governments. Thus the users of this property have to pick and choose whichever of these 10 statements is most useful to them. For example, the life of a laptop (Q3962) could be 5 years after first product release until it is typically expected to be obsolete and would be scrapped, could by 3 years as determined by continuous use causing battery degradation and wear and tear typically requiring replacement, could differ in expectations between a government in country X versus country Y depending on affluence of the country and wiliness to adopt newer technologies and scrap older ones seen as obsolete, etc. Dhx1 (talk) 12:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know of anybody who would replace a laptop after just 5 years. Moreover, the planned obsolescence of laptops, smartphones, several plastic products, and so on are a major problem and WD should not normalize or reinforce that by suggesting this is how long these products inherently last. They can last much longer, for example via standardized replacement parts + requirement to be somewhat modular and having parts (such as battery) offered individually. Prototyperspective (talk) 12:13, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Weak support It's connected to depreciation of an item, which is a correct accounting notion. But weak support from me, because it needs to have qualifiers like Determination method, Usage frequency of some sort. I would suggest looking up various calculation methods of the effective life of a depreciating asset, writing them out and starting to propose these qualifiers along with this property. Without these qualifiers, the property alone is deceiving. --David Osipov (talk) 12:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Weak support I agree that it needs to be way more precise. It represents depreciation (Q114403).
    For me the property name that would better fit the source indicated would be "legally-based usual depreciation period". The definition would be "usual depreciation period of an asset legally fixed by a fiscal administration and used for accounting purposes"
    Qualifer could be end time (P582), start time (P580) and valid in place (P3005).
    The value could be a range, for example 5-10 years, I don't know how this would translate in terms of allowed units.
    The property should not imply this is the desirable lifetime of an object (question related to sustainability issues such as eco-design and other calculations methods such as life cycle analysis), nor imply this is the actual lifetime of an object (question related to the analysis of real life practices). Jeanne Noiraud (talk) 20:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Oppose something like "depreciation period" would be a better way to store information on the legal depreciation period than a more generally named property. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:01, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎Toki Pona headnoun

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DescriptionToki Pona common noun for which the name serves as a proper modifier
Data typeLexeme
Allowed valueslanguage=tok
Example 1Sonja Lang (Q12854)Toki Pona headnounjan (L220656)
Example 2Tamzin Hadasa Kelly (Q127401579)Toki Pona headnounwan (L220805)
Example 3United States of America (Q30)Toki Pona headnounma (L220703)

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First of all, no, I don't know why there's an item about me, but I might as well use it as an example! So, in Toki Pona, names only ever serve as adjectives. So even though my name is Tansin, one can't refer to me as just that. Instead, a name must modify a common noun, which essentially serves as Toki Pona's own "instance of" statement. So it's not Mewika, but rather ma Mewika 'country called Mewika'. The ma there, is not however semantically part of the name of the country, and contextually could be replaced with some other word (for instance, a critic of the U.S. could say ike Mewika, 'bad thing called Mewika').

This common noun is called a headnoun. Some people refer to themselves with a headnoun other than jan 'person', which thereby functions as something between a courtesy title and preferred pronoun. For instance, I usually use wan 'union' to refer to myself, and that's the name I'm credited under in the acknowledgments to Toki Pona Dictionary (Q108617357). My item thus gives a name (P2561) of wan Tansin, but that's akin to saying my name in English is "person named Tamzin". One solution would be to simply remove wan, but that word is required information to understand how to refer to me in Toki Pona.

My understanding is that language-specific properties have been approved in the past, e.g. Vietnamese middle name (P8500) and second family name in Spanish name (P1950). -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 23:18, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Comment Hmm, this seems like it should be attached to the "class", not the instances. Especially if several different ones could be used (as in your "ma"/"ike" example). ArthurPSmith (talk) 21:18, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That would work for something like a country, but wouldn't work for entities that state a preferred headnoun. Both Sonja Lang and I are instance of (P31)human (Q5), and there's no other statements in our respective items from which one could infer that I primarily use the headnoun wan (L220805) while she uses the more standard (but by no means universal) jan (L220656). This is true of organizations too. I co-own an LLC that uses the word kulupu (L220679) 'community', but another might use esun (L220644) 'business' or something else entirely. And for creative works: Common headnouns for typefaces include sitelen (L220771) 'writing', nasin (L220725) 'way', and linja (L220690) 'lines'. Again, all not inferable from any other statement. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 20:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Vietnamese middle name (P8500) and second family name in Spanish name (P1950) exist because there's semantic content that's expressed. second family name in Spanish name (P1950) is about expressing that a name is inherited from the mother. Can you explain why you think name (P2561) doesn't work here and what you think the property would add? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 08:41, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChristianKl: Including the headnoun in the name would be incorrect because a headnoun is not part of someone's name. A headnoun just establishes some common noun that applies to the entity, before stating what that name is. If it were standard in English to always call you "the Wikidatan Christian"—and indeed, this is roughly how some newspapers write—that wouldn't make "the Wikidatan" part of your name. So, that leaves two options: omit headnouns entirely from Wikidata, or create a property. If we did the former, it would not be possible to use Wikidata to figure out how to refer to or address someone in Toki Pona. You could guess with decent reliability based on P31 and some map of values to lexemes, but for the reasons explained above to ArthurPSmith, that will carry a significant error rate. In short: a headnoun is a required aspect of how people are addressed and referred to in Toki Pona, but is not semantically part of the name and cannot be fully predicted from other data. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe) 20:32, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎Provides data for property

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Descriptionthe dataset associated with this external id usually contains data applicable to this other wikidata property
Data typeProperty
Domainexternal id properties
Example 1Deku Deals ID (P8364)→price (P2284)
Example 2MyWaifuList character ID (P13031)→height (P2048)
Example 3IMDb ID (P345)→title (P1476)
Example 4Fandom article ID (P6262)→unknown
See alsostated in (P248)

Motivation

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I was asked by @Kirilloparma: to save certain references not with reference URL (P854) but instead (for instance) ‎Playdate Catalog ID (P12125) in Wikidata:Tools/Wikidata for Web.

My concerns regarding this was that, I cannot automatically distinguish between data provided by the database item behind ‎Playdate Catalog ID (P12125) and information that just happens to be found under the same url.

Let's say the footer of a page might contain an email address, that is not related to the person reviewed in the page.

Or isbnsearch.org would tell me the title of a book but I wouldn't use ISBN-13 (P212) as the reference.

Now if I had an indication that a url that resolves to (for instance) an IMDb ID (P345) usually holds the information that applies to title (P1476), then I could make the assumption that it would make for a fitting reference statement when extracting this property from the url.

This information could be useful for other tools like:

  • A tool that tells you that an item should have a title and that you could find it on the IMDB
  • A tool that highlights a reference that might be faulty because it occours in an unusual context. Let's say Deku Deals ID (P8364) is used on a date of birth (P569) statement.

If an ID points to a wiki, that could hold all kinds of statements, it should be set to unknown.

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@Addshore: –Shisma (talk) 10:00, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support I quite like the idea, and it falls in line with what I am trying to do with more visual cues on items for the viability of references / sources and notability ·addshore· talk to me! 10:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Question Same as supported metadata (P8203)? Midleading (talk) 15:06, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure what this is meant for but the datatype is different. So it's definitely not the same. – Shisma (talk) 15:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
supported metadata (P8203) can be used to tell what kind of data a database stores, and not being limited to data that Wikidata has a property for. The example PubMed ID (Q2082879)supported metadata (P8203)digital object identifier (Q25670) is no different from the examples given here except that it accepts items which can be created by anyone. Midleading (talk) 04:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support -wd-Ryan (Talk/Edits) 16:56, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Knowing the data a property may hold would be helpful for sourcing statements on items. --Lewis Hulbert (talk) 01:03, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Useful. --Prototyperspective (talk) 12:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  •   Wait this property mixes three things together (1) Some entries in the database have data on this property. (2) All entries in the database have data on this property. (3) All entries have reliable data that's worthy of being imported on this property.
If we aren't clear about the meaning, different people are likely going to use it differently leading to bad conclusions. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 19:09, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I read the proposal and all comments again and I'm left with the impression the only assumed meaning of this property is (1). (2) can be expressed with a qualifier nature of statement (P5102) → sometimes (Q110143752). (3) if there is a property for it, I'd assume that the is a consensus that it is worthy of importing 🤷
I have an instance were data is there, but it it's format is always faulty. I would just   deprecate the statement in such cases. We could do the same for when the source is known to be factually faulty reason for deprecated rank (P2241) → source known to be unreliable (Q22979588) –Shisma (talk) 08:34, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"A tool that tells you that an item should have a title and that you could find it on the IMDB" is only true for (3). ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:38, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A tool that tells you that an item should have a title and that you could find it on the IMDB does not mean you shouldn't review it first. Did I imply we should do automatic imports based on this property alone? – Shisma (talk) 11:48, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shisma the general meaning of "should" is "there may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a particular item, but the full implications must be understood and carefully weighed before choosing a different course".
It's not clear whether MyWaifuList character ID (P13031)Provides data for propertyblood type (P1853) is how the property is supposed to be used. A tool complaining that everything with MyWaifuList character ID (P13031) should have blood type (P1853) would be wrong.
While you didn't explicitely suggested automatic imports, the wording that you did use encourages people to read it as a justification of automatic imports. If you propose a property you not just have to think about how you want to use the property about also about how other people might misuse it and think about how to design the property to prevent misuse. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If the data provided is faulty, wrongly formatted, or unreliable we can surely express it with ranks and qualifiers. Don’t you think? — Shisma (talk) 08:49, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Previous proposals: Wikidata:Property proposal/provides data and more refined ones: Wikidata:Property proposal/provides HTML microdata, Wikidata:Property proposal/provides JSON-LD data.--GZWDer (talk) 11:21, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Resistance in Belgium ID

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Descriptionidentifier of persons, administrative areas, resistance organizations of world war 2,... on https://data.arch.be/
RepresentsResistance in Belgium (Q130564724)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5), organization (Q43229), country (Q6256)
Example 1Groupe G (Q1767773)→Q3790
Example 2Walthère Dewé (Q631073)→Q7400
Example 3Ixelles - Elsene (Q208713)→Q104
Example 4Belgium (Q31)→Q5
Sourcehttps://data.arch.be/, https://query.data.arch.be/,
Planned useAdd the identifier to already created Wikidata Qid's.
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://data.arch.be/wiki/Item:$1
CountryBelgium (Q31)
Applicable "stated in"-valueResistance in Belgium (Q130564724)
Single-value constraintyes
Wikidata projectWikiProject World War II (Q10653810)

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Resistance in Belgium is a platform that makes it possible to do research on the resistance in Belgium during the Second World War.
  Comment: This database contains mostly persons, but most of them are only known in this database (Wikidata:Notability). That's why I said in the 'planned use' section that I will only use the ID for already created Wikidata QIDs.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by RVA2869 (talk • contribs) at 10:51, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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  Support the website seems well organised and official, I see it uses wikibase software. Vicarage (talk) 17:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Nortix08 (talk) 19:00, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Comment Interesting to see wikbase deployed there! Is this property proposal part of Wikidata:WikiProject WWII? Here's a list of Dutch resistance members Wikidata:Netwerk Oorlogsbronnen/Nederlandse verzetsstrijders. I assume there is overlap between Belgian and Dutch resistance members. Looking at the example items I noticed that the wikibase deployment seems to be simply a way to have a unique starting point for external links in en/nl/fr langauges. It seems to me it would be more beneficial to link those language links directly to the Wikidata items with specific properties per language, especially because it would be nice to provide such links as references to the WWII parts of people's lives. Obviously that 5 year period had a huge impact, but many people were notable for other reasons. I think the various resistance groups need items so I would start there, and not with the individuals, but a more generic property would enable that. As a wikidatan I feel comfortable navigating another wikibase item, but I doubt that's the case for many Wikipedians who could use those links for articles in their language of choice. Jane023 (talk) 09:15, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any comments on this RVA2869? Are we ready for creation? Samoasambia ✎ 04:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Samoasambia I think we are ready for creation.@Jane023 The comment about language selection, the data/website is currently available in 4 languages (English, Dutch, French and German); I don't immediately see a way to share a language-specific link? It currently lists 284 people of Dutch nationality, 16 of whom are already on Wikidata. (Or to which the Q-id is already linked) Query. Since this is a fairly new database, I'm pretty sure new items/features will be added. RVA2869 (talk) 09:26, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Support I see - thanks for the reply. Since it's a two-step process to get to the underlying links that could be in any combination of those languages, then it makes sense to link to the Wikibase item page directly. Jane023 (talk) 09:43, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support --Kdkeller (talk) 16:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  Support Karmakolle (talk) 16:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎Data analysis method

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Descriptionmethods used in the main item for inspecting, cleansing, transforming, and modeling data with the goal of discovering useful information
Representsdata analysis (Q1988917)
Data typeItem
Domainscholarly article (Q13442814)

scientific publication (Q591041)

scholarly work (Q55915575)
Example 1Prediction of drug absorption using multivariate statistics (Q73126791)→multivariate statistics (Q1952580)
Example 2Governing the Commons: The Evolution of Institutions for Collective Action (Q27044649)→case study (Q155207)
Example 3randomized controlled trial (Q1436668)→survival analysis (Q543310)

Motivation

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I did not find the right property to describe the method used in an academic work. This could be useful in the long run to make queries about scientific items and evaluate their quality for example.

(Maybe "uses data analysis method" is a better phrasing for the property name).

Jeanne Noiraud (talk) 21:25, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Edit : I have listed existing properties on methods and my other property proposals here Wikidata:WikiProject_Wikidata_for_research/Data_models/Social_science_results#Properties_for_methods

Jeanne Noiraud (talk) 22:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Measuring point uuid

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DescriptionMeasuring point uuid or Measurement points uuid, german Messstellenuuid, is the unique identifier for measuring points at which collects data.
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed valuesUniversally Unique Identifier (Q195284)
Example 1Stream gauge Berlin-Mühlendamm UP (Q110797934) → 09e15cf6-f155-4b76-b92f-6c260839121c
Example 2Stream gauge Berlin-Ploetzensee OP (Q110805383) → ee52ce62-212c-4735-b438-26fbdc37e3e2
Example 3Pegel Mannheim (Q60773342) → 57090802-c51a-4d09-8340-b4453cd0e1f5
Sourcehttps://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/gast/pegeltabelle https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/gast/stammdaten?pegelnr=23700700
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned useI like to add all wate level measurement point in Germany. They are used at rivers, chanles, at North and Barentsea.
Number of IDs in sourceIn Germany there are more than 650 measurement points. https://www.pegelonline.wsv.de/gast/pegeltabelle
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes

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In Germany, for example, the measuring point uuid is used as a unique identifier for water level measuring points (Stream gauge). At these points, the current level of the water of rivers, channels, lakes or the sea will be collected. These Measuring points have a coordinate. This will belong to the Project Germany, WikiProject Rivers and WikiProject Geology. These Measurement points indicates the difference between standard sea level and actual water level. As alternativ a general uuid value can be implemented. There are already uuid properties, but they are to specific, either people World Rowing UUID or books BHCL UUID. If a universal uuid is implemented, it would be fine for my project. I like to add all wate level measurement point in Germany. They are used at rivers, Canals, at North- and Baltic Sea. In Germany there are more than 650 measurement points. See also extern: [1] GodeNehler (talk) 16:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Take a look at how property descriptions are usually written, and write one for this property in the same form. Currently, it's not clear to me whether this is supposed to be a property about a certain German identifer (so a standard external ID property) or supposed to be something more general.
Is there some regulation that codifies these measuring points? ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 21:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Marktstammdatenregisternummer

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DescriptionIm Marktstammdatenregister werden pro Eintrag verschiedene Nummern vergeben. Sie sollen zusammengefasst als Eigenschaft Marktstammdatenregisternummer angegeben werden können. Für die verschiedenen Nummerntypen - genauer gesagt Präfixe, die verschiedene Bezüge haben (SEE[...] identifiziert eine Einheit, SGE[...] eine Genehmigung, ABR[...] einen Anlagenbetreiber usw.) - wären einzelne Qualifier denkbar. (de) – (Please translate this into English.)
Representsno label (Q130696971)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1Q130706160→SEE957863394442
Example 2Q130706160→SGE998787568830
Example 3Q130706156→SEE926057008953
Example 4Q130706156→SGE998787568830
Example 5Q130701667→ABR951932196005
Sourcehttps://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marktstammdatenregister; https://www.marktstammdatenregister.de/MaStR/Einheit/Einheiten/OeffentlicheEinheitenuebersicht
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.marktstammdatenregister.de/MaStR/suche/$1
Wikidata projectWikiProject Germany (Q6871603)

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Die Aufnahme dieser ID hat auch für die Datenpflege hier einen expliziten Nutzen, z. B. in der Vermeidung von Dubletten oder der eindeutigen Zuweisung, falls kein Label verwendet wird/kein sinnvolles Label verwendet werden kann.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by P170 (talk • contribs).

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OAI formatter

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   Ready Create
Descriptionformatter to generate ID compatible with Open Archives Initiative Protocol for Metadata Harvesting (Q2430433) services
Data typeString
Example 1CulturaItalia ID (P1949) => $1
Example 2arXiv ID (P818) => oai:arXiv.org:$1
Example 3PMC publication ID (P932) => oai:pubmedcentral.nih.gov:$1
Example 4HAL article ID (P7864) => oai:HAL:$1
See alsoURN formatter (P7470), ARK formatter (P8054), DOI formatter (P8404)

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Note there is no single resolver for this ID.--GZWDer (talk) 14:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Open Library Collection

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DescriptionLink to Open Library Collection which contain manually and automaticallly collections of editions and works on certain topics
Data typeURL
Example 1Meyers Reisebücher (Q1429532)→https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Meyers_Reiseb%C3%BCcher
Example 2Star Wars (Q462)→https://openlibrary.org/collections/star-wars
Example 3subject→value
Planned useSie soll dazu dienen Themen in der WD mit Collections in der OL zu verlinken. Das würde ich gerne nutzen.
Formatter URLhttps://openlibrary.org/collections/$1
See alsoOpen Library ID (P648), Open Library subject ID (P3847), Open Library publisher ID (P12088)

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Bessere Verlinkung der DAten in der OpenLibrary.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ogmios (talk • contribs) at 11:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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‎land acknowledgement

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Descriptionacknowledgement of indigenous or native people whose ancestors lived at a location
Representsland acknowledgement (Q96200400)
Data typeItem
Domainitem, geographic location (Q2221906)
Allowed valuesbuilding (Q41176), organization (Q43229), university (Q3918), monument (Q4989906)
Example 1University of Virginia (Q213439) → Monacan people (Q3513658) [2]
Example 2University of Hawaiʻi at Mānoa (Q2000129) → Native Hawaiians (Q1283606) [3]
Example 3University of Washington (Q219563) → Coast Salish peoples (Q1755154) [4]
Sourceen:Land acknowledgement
Planned useplan to present this concept at WikiConference North America in October 2025
Number of IDs in sourceprobably 100s, no attempt at a comprehensive list or even a list of any kind identified
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Wikidata projectWikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America (Q10440055) (notified on Wikidata talk page)

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There is a popular trend in the United States to make "land acknowledgements" at public meetings. Universities do this especially, because they are sensitive to remembering history. Other organizations which may do this include cultural centers, museums, and inaugurations of buildings. A typical land acknowledgement occurs at the beginning of a meeting. After people have convened, the host of the meeting will make a statement acknowledging the colonial nature of cities, and how colonists displaced the native people. The host will state the names of the tribes or indigenous people who lived in the place before colonists arrived. Then there is some statement of well wishing for the descendants of those people, and for recognizing the history of the native people.

As examples I listed some universities, because universities document their land acknowledgements more frequently than other kinds of organizations. Land acknowledgements could apply to any place, like an entire city or region, but here in Wikidata, I propose that we track any organization which makes a land acknowledgement for itself, and that the target be the people to whom their acknowledgement is directed. I think there will clear data here when our model for land acknowledgement requires a citation from the organization making the claim. Bluerasberry (talk) 19:25, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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@GaryMan1968: ancestral home (P66) is for self-identification (with third party citation, of course) of individuals and people to their ancestors. The land acknowledgement concept is a statement that organizations choose to make. In the case of land acknowledgements, it could be the case that the indigenous people do not want the acknowledgement, and that the statement benefits the current occupants more than the previous native occupants. The native-land.ca website would be what a contemporary organization used to determine the ancestral owners of the land which they now occupy. But the "land acknowledgement" concept is a voluntary declaration which communicates the politics of the organization making it, rather than giving information about native people who formerly lived there. The default is that organizations make no land acknowledgement, and have no stated opinion about previous land occupants. In the absence of an organization's acknowledgement, there can be no "land acknowledgement", as these have to be cited to an organizational statement. Perhaps there also should be a Wikidata property for what you are describing, like "indigenous people of this location", which could be applied to cities and regions. Bluerasberry (talk) 21:57, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  •   Support Not just in the USA - I've definitely seen this for Canadian institutions and I think I've seen this for Australia/New Zealand too. ArthurPSmith (talk) 19:06, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm really not sure about this path and urge caution. There is a difference between a land acknowledgement and traditional territories. There are mistakes with the native land website, and yes, most land acknowledgements are not "approved" by the Nations or peoples it is meant to acknowledge. These statements often change. I do wish we had a way to cite traditional territories, although this is a very, very complex topic. I would be supportive if it was clear that these land acknowledgements are official statements frequently coming from corporations or organization and are not to be conflated with traditional territories. There are massive issues with the modelling of Indigenous lands, peoples, and cultures in Wikidata.Smallison (talk) 16:15, 5 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I support the caution mentioned by Smallison above. Amqui (talk) 03:42, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • It seems the current proposal is to use the item datatype to link to the item for a polity or a people. What if instead it links to an item with instance-of land acknowledgement (Q96200400), being a particular document issued by the acknowledging organisation? Then full work available at URL (P953)/URL (P2699) and other such properties can be more prominent than they would be as a qualifier to this proposed property. Arlo Barnes (talk) 21:53, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

El Watan tag ID

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Descriptionidentifier for a tag on Algerian French-language newspaper El Watan
RepresentsEl Watan (Q2529832)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values^[a-zA-Z0-9].*$
Example 1Algeria (Q262) → algerie
Example 2Africa (Q15) → afrique
Example 3Europe (Q46) → europe
Sourcehttps://elwatan-dz.com/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://elwatan-dz.com/tag/$1
See alsoEl Moudjahid tag ID (P13141), Radio Algeria tag ID (Arabic) (P13160), Radio Algeria tag ID (French) (P13161), Le Figaro tag ID (P6621), Le Parisien tag ID (P6622), Mediapart tag ID (P6813)
Proposed bySoufiyouns

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  Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the tags on the website of the Algerian French-language newspaper El Watan (Q2529832). --Soufiyouns (talk) 07:29, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Algeria Press Service tag ID (French)

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Descriptionidentifier for a tag on Algerian French-language website of the news agency Algeria Press Service
RepresentsAlgeria Press Service (Q1162323)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values^[a-zA-Z0-9].*$
Example 1Algeria (Q262) → algerie
Example 2Africa (Q15) → afrique
Example 3France (Q142) → france
Sourcehttps://www.aps.dz/fr/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.aps.dz/fr/algerie/tag/$1
See alsoRadio Algeria tag ID (French) (P13161), Radio Algeria tag ID (Arabic) (P13160), El Moudjahid tag ID (P13141), Le Figaro tag ID (P6621), Le Parisien tag ID (P6622), Mediapart tag ID (P6813)
Proposed bySoufiyouns

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  Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the tags on the French-language website of the Algerian news agency Algeria Press Service (Q1162323). --Soufiyouns (talk) 08:55, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Comment: See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Algeria Press Service tag ID (English). --Soufiyouns (talk) 09:17, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment: See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Algeria Press Service tag ID (Arabic). --Soufiyouns (talk) 09:35, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment: This very important property proposal encompasses the different languages ​​through which the Algerian news agency Algeria Press Service (Q1162323) (APS) provides information by tags to the whole world. Indeed, this multilingual methodology is also supported for the France 24 (Q166180) news television network which currently includes the following four (4) multilingual properties: France 24 topic ID (French) (P9346), France 24 topic ID (English) (P9347), France 24 topic ID (Spanish) (P9348), France 24 topic ID (Arabic) (P9349). Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:56, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Algeria Press Service tag ID (English)

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Descriptionidentifier for a tag on Algerian English-language website of the news agency Algeria Press Service
RepresentsAlgeria Press Service (Q1162323)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values^[a-zA-Z0-9].*$
Example 1Algeria (Q262) → algeria
Example 2Africa (Q15) → africa
Example 3France (Q142) → france
Sourcehttps://www.aps.dz/en/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.aps.dz/en/algeria/tag/$1
See alsoRadio Algeria tag ID (French) (P13161), Radio Algeria tag ID (Arabic) (P13160), El Moudjahid tag ID (P13141), Le Figaro tag ID (P6621), Le Parisien tag ID (P6622), Mediapart tag ID (P6813)
Proposed bySoufiyouns

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  Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the tags on the English-language website of the Algerian news agency Algeria Press Service (Q1162323). --Soufiyouns (talk) 09:18, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Comment: See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Algeria Press Service tag ID (French). --Soufiyouns (talk) 09:16, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment: See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Algeria Press Service tag ID (Arabic). --Soufiyouns (talk) 09:36, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment: This very important property proposal encompasses the different languages ​​through which the Algerian news agency Algeria Press Service (Q1162323) (APS) provides information by tags to the whole world. Indeed, this multilingual methodology is also supported for the France 24 (Q166180) news television network which currently includes the following four (4) multilingual properties: France 24 topic ID (French) (P9346), France 24 topic ID (English) (P9347), France 24 topic ID (Spanish) (P9348), France 24 topic ID (Arabic) (P9349). Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:55, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Algeria Press Service tag ID (Arabic)

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Descriptionidentifier for a tag on Algerian Arabic-language website of the news agency Algeria Press Service
RepresentsAlgeria Press Service (Q1162323)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values^[ا-ي0-9].*$
Example 1Algeria (Q262) → الجزائر
Example 2Africa (Q15) → إفريقيا
Example 3France (Q142) → فرنسا
Sourcehttps://www.aps.dz/ar/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.aps.dz/ar/algerie/tag/$1
See alsoRadio Algeria tag ID (Arabic) (P13160), Radio Algeria tag ID (French) (P13161), El Moudjahid tag ID (P13141), Le Figaro tag ID (P6621), Le Parisien tag ID (P6622), Mediapart tag ID (P6813)
Proposed bySoufiyouns

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  Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the tags on the Arabic-language website of the Algerian news agency Algeria Press Service (Q1162323). --Soufiyouns (talk) 09:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Comment: See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Algeria Press Service tag ID (English). --Soufiyouns (talk) 09:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment: See also Wikidata:Property proposal/Algeria Press Service tag ID (French). --Soufiyouns (talk) 09:31, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Comment: This very important property proposal encompasses the different languages ​​through which the Algerian news agency Algeria Press Service (Q1162323) (APS) provides information by tags to the whole world. Indeed, this multilingual methodology is also supported for the France 24 (Q166180) news television network which currently includes the following four (4) multilingual properties: France 24 topic ID (French) (P9346), France 24 topic ID (English) (P9347), France 24 topic ID (Spanish) (P9348), France 24 topic ID (Arabic) (P9349). Regards. --Soufiyouns (talk) 06:53, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

identifiant Registre national des gels

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Descriptionidentifiant d'une personne ou d'une organisation dans le Registre national des gels (fr) – (Please translate this into English.)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Example 1Tsav 9 (Q126653810)→{{{3}}}
Example 2Luhansk People's Republic (Q16746854)→{{{3}}}
Example 320th Guards Army (Q4029914)→{{{3}}}
Example 453 ZRBr VSRF (Q27135791)→{{{3}}}
Example 5Ali Mahmoud Abbas (Q111748038)→{{{3}}}
Example 6Congo River Alliance (Q129567241)→{{{3}}}
Example 7National Aerospace Development Administration (Q17124852)→{{{3}}}
Example 8Allied Democratic Forces (Q1133743)→{{{3}}}
Example 9Law Enforcement Command (Q6082591)→{{{3}}}
Example 10Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (Q1674127)→{{{3}}}
Sourcehttps://gels-avoirs.dgtresor.gouv.fr/List
Formatter URLhttps://gels-avoirs.dgtresor.gouv.fr/Gels/RegistreDetail?idRegistre=$1

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Plein de description/biographies. Aussi Compagnie de télévision et de radio biélorusse, Garde républicaine, 4th Armored Division, Peter Cherif, Ministère de la Défense et de la Logistique des forces armées, ministère de la Défense nationale, Al-Qaïda, Forces armées de la fédération de Russie, Armée de résistance du Seigneur, Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar, VGTRK, Al-Qaida en Irak, Jaych Aden Al Islami-Abyane, Sally Jones, Younis al-Mauritani, Al-Mourabitoune, Movement of the First, Tarek Maaroufi, Front al-Nosra, Al-Qaïda dans le sous-continent indien, Al-Qaïda dans la péninsule Arabique, Brigades Al-Qods, Al-Shabbaab, Mazen Al-Tarazi … Legonin (talk) 18:07, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ech-Chaab tag ID

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Descriptionidentifier for a tag on Algerian Arabic-language newspaper Ech-Chaab
RepresentsEch-Chaab (Q3046937)
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values^[ا-ي0-9].*$
Example 1Algeria (Q262) → الجزائر
Example 2Africa (Q15) → إفريقيا
Example 3Europe (Q46) → أوروبا
Sourcewww.ech-chaab.com/
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.echaab.dz/tag/$1
See alsoEl Moudjahid tag ID (P13141), Radio Algeria tag ID (Arabic) (P13160), Radio Algeria tag ID (French) (P13161), Le Figaro tag ID (P6621), Le Parisien tag ID (P6622), Mediapart tag ID (P6813)
Proposed bySoufiyouns

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  Notified participants of WikiProject Authority control: I propose to create a new property for the tags on the website of the Algerian Arabic-language newspaper Ech-Chaab (Q3046937). --Soufiyouns (talk) 08:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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World Heritage type

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DescriptionPropriety of World heritage site : the Type (Cultural, Natural, Mixed)
RepresentsWorld Heritage Site (Q9259), part of UNESCO World Heritage Site (Q43113623)
Data typeItem
Template parameter"Type" in fr:Infobox Patrimoine mondial
Example 1Tower of London (Q62378)→Cultural
Example 2Thingvellir National Park (Q107370)→Natural
Example 3Pyrénées – Mont Perdu World Heritage Site (Q3411434)→Mixed
Planned useAdding this property for all Unesco site.
Expected completenesseventually complete (Q21873974)
See alsoin replacement of the not used: UNESCO world natural heritage site (Q16617071), World Heritage Mixed Site (Q52683527), Category:Cultural World Heritage Sites (Q52683530)
Distinct-values constraintyes
Wikidata projectWikidata:WikiProject World Heritage

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The infobox currently use this property, not available on wikidata (only by the way of UNESCO world natural heritage site (Q16617071), World Heritage Mixed Site (Q52683527), Category:Cultural World Heritage Sites (Q52683530) that seem not be used on wikidata, because the main {{P|1435}} is to by part of World Heritage Site (Q9259) or part of UNESCO World Heritage Site (Q43113623).  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by AlSepPhoenix (talk • contribs) at 13:54, 16 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Note that the "type" (or the "category") seems to be a more used information, and more stable, than the World Heritage criteria (P2614) (https://whc.unesco.org/en/list/, https://whc.unesco.org/en/newproperties/) AlSepPhoenix (talk) 18:43, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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‎Kyiv Independent topic

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DescriptionKyiv Independent topic
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values[a-z0-9-]
Example 1Sweden (Q34)→sweden
Example 2refugee (Q131572)→refugees
Example 3Naftogaz (Q728513)→naftogaz
Example 4Volodymyr Zelenskyy (Q3874799)→volodymyr-zelensky
Sourcehttps://kyivindependent.com/
Proposed byInternetyev

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The Kyiv Independent (Q111028947) is Ukraine (Q212)’s leading English (Q1860)-language news outlet, delivering news and analysis about Ukraine (Q212), Russia (Q159), and Eastern Europe (Q27468) to a global audience. The website has over 20,000 links from Wikipedia (Q52).  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Internetyev (talk • contribs) at 14:40, 16 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Nafziger Order of Battle ID

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Descriptiondatabase identifier for orders of battle of units and conflicts
RepresentsNafziger Orders of Battle (Q131462802)
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainitem
Allowed values[1-9]\d{0,5}
Example 1Battle of Antietam (Q719252) → 4
Example 2Battle of Antietam (Q719252) → 112 (shows that the order of battle is often recorded for each side separately)
Example 3Prussian Army (Q706042) → 5772
Example 4Prussian Army (Q706042) → 9006 (orders of battle are provided at multiple dates)
Sourcehttps://cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15040coll6/id https://threedecks.org/index.php?display_type=show_battle
External linksUse in sister projects: [ar] • [de] • [en] • [es] • [fr] • [he] • [it] • [ja] • [ko] • [nl] • [pl] • [pt] • [ru] • [sv] • [vi] • [zh] • [commons] • [species] • [wd] • [en.wikt] • [fr.wikt].
Planned usepopulate WD with all entries that match conflict name/date and military unit
Number of IDs in source9052
Expected completenesseventually complete
Formatter URLhttps://cgsc.contentdm.oclc.org/digital/collection/p15040coll6/id/$1
Robot and gadget jobsnone
Applicable "stated in"-valueno
Single-value constraintno
Distinct-values constraintyes
Wikidata projectnone

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George Nafziger (Q5542777) published many books on Orders of Battle from 1660 to 1945, and donated his source material as a series of PDFs to the Combined Arms Research Library (Q5150841) who host the complete set. The Waterloo Association also host a subset (https://www.napoleon-series.org/resources/the-nafziger-collection-of-napoleonic-orders-of-battle/], but the former is more extensive, and includes the latter's. I've been adding the information using described by source (P1343), this property would replace those records. I am also looking at the possibility of extracting information from the PDFs for naval battles to go into WD.Vicarage 06:34, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  •   Weak oppose I think the datastructure should be different, the item in the dataset are documents, so maybe a document should be associated with one wikidata item and then that item can be linked to a specific battle.germartin1
    • Do we have a precedent for that approach? I'm not sure WD can aspire to have entries for every document in every archive in the world, and these by there nature are single page PDFs, and I worry that they'd be at risk from notability requirements and have cherry-picked deletion. With 70 Prussian orders of battle, we'd have to present a lot of information in article labels, rather than as qualifiers to an ID. We do have a smattering order of battle WD items when someone has written a WP page on a major battle, but not otherwise. Using described by source (P1343) to link them to conflicts would need still need qualifiers, and an item called "Prussian Army of Schleiswig-Holstein, facing Denmark, beginning of war, 1864" doesn't sound practical. Vicarage (talk) 07:30, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎DataGov dataset

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DescriptionIdentifier for a matching dataset of a subject in the Israeli Governmental Data Repository
RepresentsDATA GOV database (Q131470416)
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1list of cities in Israel (Q28330) → citiesandsettelments
Example 2Tel Aviv Metro (Q28220630) → metro_line
Example 3Beersheba Light Rail (Q22443681) → mataan_brshva
Sourcehttps://data.gov.il/dataset/
Planned useQ131459692
Number of IDs in source1,148 and growing
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://data.gov.il/dataset/q=$1
CountryIsrael
Single-value constraintyes
Distinct-values constraintyes

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I'd like to propose this property, linking to datasets available on the Israeli Governmental Data Repository ("DataGov"). The repo contains 1,148 datasets on various subjects – from transit usage and environment to trees in Beersheba. All datasets are being published under a free license, some of them under Creative Commons (attribution).

In addition to the dataset ID, I'd like to suggest adding another string for description. מקף־עברי (talk) 09:45, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  Support. Geagea (talk) 10:43, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

‎ERR keyword ID

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Descriptionidentifier for a keyword used to categorize articles in Eesti Rahvusringhääling's news websites
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values[1-9][0-9]+
Example 1Jón Baldvin Hannibalsson (Q1715045)→83842
Example 2Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence (Q2047926)→83349
Example 3Estonia women's national under-17 football team (Q58743419)→78419
Sourcehttps://www.err.ee/
Planned useadd to some existing items and to mix'n'match
Number of IDs in source148,848 (at least, according to what the Wayback Machine has tried to grab)
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.err.ee/keyword/$1
See alsoYle topic ID (P8309), Postimees topic ID (P9937)

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This property, like P9937, will help connect topics that are not covered by other topic IDs and improve linkage to resources from Estonia's public broadcaster. (Like P9937, the text associated with a keyword ID can be in Estonian, Russian, or English.) Mahir256 (talk) 18:55, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note, that there may be several IDs for the same theme, e.g. 780245, 83349, 83350, 85043, 217814, 574911 etc are all IDs for NATO Cooperative Cyber Defence Centre of Excellence. --Metsavend (talk) 12:46, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

has donated

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DescriptionAmount of money donated to a person or organization
Representshas donated (Q83405216)
Data typeQuantity
Example 1AFRY (Q3429427)→UNICEF (Q740308)
Example 2Elon Musk (Q317521)→Donald Trump (Q22686)
Example 3Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation (Q655286)→The Global Fund to Fight AIDS, Tuberculosis and Malaria (Q1414657)

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Diese neue Eigenschaft sollte die inverse Eigenschaft von "gespendet von" (P1028) werden.

Beispiel: AFRY hat gespendet 1000000 SEK an UNICEF.  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jnmths (talk • contribs) at 21:27, 25 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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Mishramilan catalog ID

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DescriptionID of the catalog corresponding to the property in the mishramilan tool
Data typeExternal identifier
Example 1Revised Mandarin Chinese Dictionary ID (P11056) -> 58
Example 2Urdu Lughat ID (P11350) -> 3
Example 3New Oxford American Dictionary ID (P12690) -> 55
Formatter URLhttps://mishramilan.toolforge.org/#/catalogs/$1
See alsoMix'n'match catalog ID (P2264)

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mishramilan is the equivalent of Mix'n'match for lexemes.--GZWDer (talk) 12:04, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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‎Hankook Ilbo tag ID

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Descriptionidentifier for a tag used on articles in the Hankook Ilbo daily newspaper
Data typeExternal identifier
Allowed values[0-9a-f]{8}-[0-9a-f]{4}-4[0-9a-f]{3}-[0-9a-f]{4}-[0-9a-f]{12}
Example 1Gwangju District Court (Q12585183) → c3a37b6f-0ab2-4852-9b5c-0a12cf2898d1
Example 2Q4531064 → 12822739-d380-4b19-92c4-fea6c1c80527
Example 3People Power Party (Q85412437) → 19534888-d3bf-49f0-8b10-9f85d5ed1afd
Sourcehttps://www.hankookilbo.com/
Planned usebuild a (partial) catalog to add to mix'n'match
Number of IDs in sourcesomewhere in the thousands (at least 1,986 according to the Wayback Machine)
Expected completenessalways incomplete (Q21873886)
Formatter URLhttps://www.hankookilbo.com/Tag?tagId=$1
See alsoBBC News topic ID (P6200), Yle topic ID (P8309), Postimees topic ID (P9937)

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This property will provide links to articles in one of South Korea's largest daily newspapers related to a particular topic. Mahir256 (talk) 05:26, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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