Vita:Macedón nyelv
POV
The whole article is pure POV. Probably this is the only Wikipedia where Macedonian is represented as dialect. Where did you get that idea? Please rewrite the article or delete big part of the text. Thanks– MacedonianBoy vita 2010. március 12., 12:58 (CET)
- How do you know what is written in the text if you don't speak Hungarian? Please present your valid sources that the article is POV. You being Macedonian is not a source to say this article is POV or what it states is false. – Timish
sablongyár üzenőfal 2010. március 12., 13:03 (CET)
- Seeing that one user that can speak BG wrote this article and having translated this, I figure out this is just POV. Dialect? Where? Only in BG minds? Is here mentioned as dialect? You allow the users to write their own opinion and research, Bulgarian one. – MacedonianBoy vita 2010. március 12., 13:08 (CET)
- I am providing documents and books to rewrite the article and delete this crap.
- A grammar of Macedonian by Victor Friedman
- Dictionary of three languages, Gjorgjija Pulevski – 1875
- Zur Sprachlichen Beurtellung der Macedonischen slaven, Leonhard Masing – 1890, in German
- Zur Laut und Akzentlehre der Macedonischen dialekte, Leonhard Masing – 1891, in German
- MACEDONISCHEN STUDIEN, Vatroslav Oblak – 1896, in German
- For the Macedonian matters, Krste Petkov Misirkov – 1903
- Abecedar – 1925, Greece
- Dwie gwary macedońskie(Suhe i Wysoka w Soluńskiem) – Teksty , Mieczysław Małecki – 1934, in Polish
- Dwie gwary macedońskie(Suhe i Wysoka w Soluńskiem) – Teksty, Mieczysław Małecki – 1936, in Polish
- Documents, Contes et Chansons Slaves de l'Albanie du Sud, Andre Mazon – 1936, in French
- L'Evangeliaire de Kulakia Un parler Slave du Bas-Vardar, Andre Mazon et Andre Vaillant – 1938, in French
- Macedonian grammar, Krume Kepeski – 1946, in Macedonian
- Macedonian orthography and dictionary, Blaže Koneski and Krum Tošev – 1950, in Macedonian
- Grammar of the Macedonian Literary Language, Horace Lunt – 1952
- The Macedonian language in the global world – history, development and the Macedonism (study about the Macedonian language) in Macedonia and in the world.
I hope you will rewrite the article, since the current text can be found only in crazy Bulgarian writers with thoughts of the Middle Ages. Also, Victor Friendman's book is very useful since he is one the best modern know Macedonist. Thanks.– MacedonianBoy vita 2010. március 12., 13:12 (CET)
Umm, can you see that you are providing only one side of the coin? That is.. all your sources are from Macedonian scholars. Pardon me, but is that not also POV in a way? I found other sources saying that Bulgarian scholars refuse to name Macedonian as a separate langauge. THAT also has to be written in the article. [1], UCLA article. This is an undending dispute around this language and it is not Wikipedia's job to decide, therefore we can't just say yes Macedonian is a spearate language if the scholars are not sure either. Therefore the good NPOV article would show BOTH sides, representing what the Macedonia schoplars have to say on the issue and what other scholars think as well. The article will be just as much POV with your point of view represented SOLELY. – Timish 
sablongyár üzenőfal 2010. március 12., 13:22 (CET)
- First of all are familiar with the Bulgarian politics? Out of all nations and countries in the world, only one (BG) does not want to accept the term since of their politics and I do not care about it. The problem here is that the article is about some non-existing BG dialect as you wrote. Most of the sources I provided are not Macedonian, but German, French, Polish and English. Lunt, Friedman and the Polish scholars are very respected, where as the BG sources still dream about Great Bulgaria. It is ok to mention one or two sentence about Bulgarian problem, but this article? Come on! – MacedonianBoy vita 2010. március 12., 13:26 (CET)
- Additionaly, it is already said in the world that Macedonian is separated, its not your job. Your job is to represent the actual situation, not one user or group of people think. – MacedonianBoy vita 2010. március 12., 13:32 (CET)
- First of all are familiar with the Bulgarian politics? Out of all nations and countries in the world, only one (BG) does not want to accept the term since of their politics and I do not care about it. The problem here is that the article is about some non-existing BG dialect as you wrote. Most of the sources I provided are not Macedonian, but German, French, Polish and English. Lunt, Friedman and the Polish scholars are very respected, where as the BG sources still dream about Great Bulgaria. It is ok to mention one or two sentence about Bulgarian problem, but this article? Come on! – MacedonianBoy vita 2010. március 12., 13:26 (CET)
- Any intervention on the article? Or I should provide proposal intro + the codification?– MacedonianBoy vita 2010. március 12., 13:45 (CET)