Wikivoyage:Votes for deletion

Votes for deletion Shortcuts: WV:VFD vfd This page lists articles, files and templates that are nominated for deletion. Any Wikivoyager can make a nomination or comment on any nomination. Nominations or comments should follow a rationale based on our deletion policy. If our deletion policy leads towards a merge or redirect, then coordinate this on the discussion page of the article. The purpose of this page is limited to the interpretation and application of our deletion policy. You can discuss what our deletion policies should be on the deletion policy discussion page. Nominating Add a {{vfd}} tag to the top of the article, file or template being proposed for deletion, so that people viewing it will be aware. Place the tag at the very top, before everything else, except the page banner. Do note though, if you're tagging a template for deletion, use <noinclude>{{vfd}}</noinclude> instead of {{vfd}} alone. Add a link to the article, file or template at the end of the list below, along with the reason why it is being listed for deletion. Sign your recommendation using four tildes ("~~~~"). If you're nominating a file for deletion, make sure it's actually located on the English Wikivoyage and not on Wikimedia Commons. The basic format for a deletion nomination is: ===[[Chicken]]=== Not a valid travel article topic. ~~~~ Commenting All Wikivoyagers are invited to comment on articles, files or templates listed for deletion. The format for comments is: ===[[Chicken]]=== * '''Delete'''. Not a valid travel article topic. TravelNut 25:25, 31 Feb 2525 (UTC) * '''Keep'''. There is a town in [[Alaska]] called Chicken. ~~~~ When leaving comments you may elect to delete, keep, or redirect the article. If you recommend redirection, you may suggest where it should be redirected to. Any attempt to merge content from an article to some other destination must retain the edit history to comply with the attribution (CC BY-SA) requirements of the free license, so it may be possible to merge and redirect but not to merge and delete. Sign your comment using four tildes ("~~~~"). Deleting, or not If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to delete, an administrator may delete it. If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to redirect or merge, any Wikivoyager may do it. If you make a redirect, please check for any resulting broken redirects or double redirects. If, after 14 days of discussion, the consensus is to keep, any Wikivoyager may remove any VFD notices from that page, and archive the deletion discussion. If there is no consensus after 14 days, allow a further 7 days for discussion. If, after the additional 7 days, there is no consensus, the page should be kept – any Wikivoyager may remove any VFD notices from that page, and archive the deletion discussion. If, after the additional 7 days, there is a consensus, implement it in line with the first three points above. When deleting an article, check "What links here". Either remove the newly-broken links from the articles or point them somewhere else. Inbound redirects to a deleted page should either be deleted or redirected elsewhere. When deleting a template, either replace it wherever it's been transcluded, especially if it served a formatting function. You can do this by adding "subst:" before the template name (especially if the use is in article space, you may then want to clean away unnecessary HTML or CSS code, which would make the wikitext confusing). Once that's done, you can delete the template without affecting individual uses of it. Otherwise, remove the template from all pages that use the template. However, do not delete the template first – this breaks links and will cause a swathe of red links, requiring a lot of cleanups. Archiving After you keep/redirect/merge/delete the article, file or template, move the deletion discussion to the Archives page for the appropriate month. The root archives page has a directory. Note that it's the month in which the action was taken, rather than when the nomination was first posted, that should be used for the archived discussion; that way, recourse to the deletion log can lead subsequent readers right to the discussion (at least for the pages that were deleted). When archiving, always make it clear to other editors what the outcome of the discussion was. This can be done by adding the result to the discussion in a separate edit from the one in which you remove the discussion from this page; or you can describe the outcome in the edit summary when you remove the discussion. If the nominated article, file or template was not deleted, then place another (identical duplicate) copy of the deletion discussion on the discussion page of the article, file or template being kept or redirected. See also: Deletion log Votes for deletion/Archives - the VFD archives index page Votes for undeletion Category:Vfd - A page that collects every image and article that is currently tagged with the vfd template.

April 2024

Mt. Cock

Is this a genuine misspelling or an attempt to play on with some unfunny humour? I have never heard anyone call Aoraki as "Mt Cock", nor do I see how that's a legitimate typo when c and o are on opposite ends of the qwerty keyboard. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Google gives no relevant hits. Pashley (talk) 09:52, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete. Granted I would have thought that was brilliant as a 9 year old kid in NZ. Brycehughes (talk) 20:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Oh lordy – what were you up to? /s --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 03:24, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

True... it might have taken me until 13 to realize the first word was related. Brycehughes (talk) 13:38, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Delete per others. Ground Zero (talk) 22:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Could an admin close this discussion? It's been 14 days, but I do not want to do it myself since I was the one who nominated this. --SHB2000 (t | c | m) 23:15, 7 May 2024 (UTC)

May 2024

Template:Smiley

• Delete for the third time as totally unnecessary. See Template talk:Smiley. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:01, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
• Question: I'd like to know if there are unicode alternatives to this template. Then I'll make a decision. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 04:44, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  The Unicode block Miscellaneous Symbols (U+2600–U+26FF) includes U+263A White smiling face (☺) and U+263B Black smiling face (☻). There is also a newer dedicated block with many more variations: Emoticons (U+1F600–U+1F64F). There are also "variant selectors", where VS16 (U+FE0F) is for "emoji style" (☺️), i.e. often a yellow face. –LPfi (talk) 06:35, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  Is it possible to normally type them up, or would it be easier for a user to use this template? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 06:40, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  It would be much more easy to use the template, at least in its default form, than remembering the U+ codes, of course. One could also have a page with the codes and "characters" listed, so that they can be copied from there. –LPfi (talk) 06:53, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  Some keyboards allow typing the emojis as such. I assume they are common only on smartphones. –LPfi (talk) 07:14, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  There is an emoji keyboard on a Mac (ctrl+cmd+space), but it requires very specific input and doesn't always work; it would normally be easier to use {{smiley}} in such cases. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:29, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  I still haven't made up my mind yet, but this is critical information that I'll end up using. (and I also fixed the attribution issue) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 06:58, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  I'd say there's nothing whatsoever critical about anything having to do with smileys. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:17, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  It is critical, because I'd like to know how easy it is to use the alternative (i.e., emojis). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  It's super easy to use :-). I know if you had your way, you'd import pretty much every template from Wikipedia, or at least loads of them, and we don't need that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:51, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  Yes, but who seriously uses ":-)" nowadays? The internet has changed significantly since 2015; I'm not aware of anyone who doesn't use emojis nowadays. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:04, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  I rarely use emojis I can't type easily, and we don't need templates for them. If I'm using my phone, I can easily go to an emoji keyboard but usually get there by accident. The only use for them here, anyway, is on talk pages, as this isn't a social media site. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:13, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  I wonder if this is a generational difference. Or I might be convinced by JuliasTravels' comment: "It's a matter of taste, and no-on [sic] is forced to use these options. No reason to be the old-fashioned wiki in the family when it comes to smileys". --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 11:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  Perhaps, but it being about taste goes both ways. I get irritated when people get to dominate the view of a discussion page by their bells-and-whistles signatures.

  I also didn't like it when colour printing getting cheap resulted in school books transforming into some kind of colour show. And now people working with reading difficulties try to get the books back to a more "dull" i.e. less distracting layout.

  I share Texugo's worries that I quoted below.

  –LPfi (talk) 15:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

• Comment The current template seems to have been copied from Wikipedia without attribution (the code is identical). –LPfi (talk) 06:55, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
• I want to quote two comments from the September 2015 Vfd –LPfi (talk) 07:06, 6 May 2024 (UTC):
  • "It has no travel purpose, but it has a community purpose. This is not something we'll every see in mainspace, and I'll always vote for all freedom we can reasonably give to users, when it comes to talk- and user pages. […] If people prefer Template:Smiley over :-), that should be fine, just like it's fine if they prefer their username to be written in colour. It's a matter of taste, and no-on is forced to use these options. No reason to be the old-fashioned wiki in the family when it comes to smileys. It's only a small gesture in a world full of emoticons." JuliasTravels 09:31, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
  • "Delete - If used frequently enough to merit having a template for it, I think it would be mere visual clutter. Plus, any argument for keeping this would apply equally to a whole range of cutesy emoticons, and we have certainly never had any need for that." Texugo 13:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC) [that range is actually available through parameters to the template, as noted later in the thread]
• Question: Since this twice-deleted template was unilaterally recreated, shouldn't there be a bias toward deletion unless there's a clear consensus to keep it? Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:27, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  I tend to agree that this should be made an exception, but we should still wait for the entire 14 days. SHB2000 (t | c | m) 23:30, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

  Sure. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:01, 7 May 2024 (UTC)