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Requested move at Talk:Philippine Senate hearing on the Kingdom of Jesus Christ#Requested move 25 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Philippine Senate hearing on the Kingdom of Jesus Christ#Requested move 25 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. HueMan1 (talk) 14:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

John Dowling (pastor)

Article probably needs some substantial copyediting for encyclopedic tone and more modern sources if anyone has access to any. The subject, a 19th century Baptist minister, is almost certainly notable if for no other reason due to his authorship of one of the more widely read and quoted polemically anti-Catholic works from that era. However much of the sourcing is dated, and in at least one instance of doubtful reliability. The language sounds like it was taken directly from one or more of those old sources and seems less than nuetral in its tone. I have tagged the article. -Ad Orientem (talk) 03:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

A quick followup, we don't have an article on his principal work, The History of Romanism: from the Earliest Corruptions of Christianity to the Present Time(1), but we probably should. It was a very prominent and widely quoted book in its time and I would be surprised if it did not meet our guidelines for notability. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:List of New Testament minuscules (2001–)#Requested move 22 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:List of New Testament minuscules (2001–)#Requested move 22 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Reading of Beans 06:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Genesis creation narrative

There is currently a discussion going on at Genesis creation narrative about the inclusion of 'traditional' views in the text; additional input would be most welcome. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 17:59, 25 September 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound standoff#Requested move 1 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Kingdom of Jesus Christ compound standoff#Requested move 1 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. HueMan1 (talk) 22:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Common Era has an RfC

Common Era, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RfC for value. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 07:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

The article Anti-Christian sentiment is largely the same content as Persecution of Christians, suggest reformat to resemble other article pairs that better separate the topics

Currently the article Anti-Christian sentiment largely just a less comprehensive duplicate of the article Persecution of Christians.

The two articles would likely be improved if they were rewritten into the format used in similar article pairs such as Islamophobia and Persecution of Muslims or Antisemitism and Persecution of Jews where the former article covers concepts of discrimination against the group broadly with some discussion of example events, whilst the latter article serves as a compendium of specific historical and modern acts of discrimination.

This would allow them to be more distinct from eachother and provide better coverage of the topic. TaqPCR (talk) 00:10, 8 October 2024 (UTC)

Sources for Summarizing Books of the Bible

Looking over some of the articles for books of the Bible, I notice that when summarizing the contents of the books, some articles cite to the passages in the books themselves, while other articles cite to secondary sources. For example, the article for the Third Epistle of John, when summarizing the books contents, cites repeatedly to The Johannine Epistles by C. H. Dodd. Whereas, the article on the Epistle to the Philippians cites only to the actual book. And the article on the Epistle to the Romans uses both.

My question is, which is the preferred source for summarizing the books on Wikipedia? The Bible, or Bible commentaries? SCOTUS Operandi (talk) 01:41, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Catholic theology has an RfC

Catholic theology, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RfC for value. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Jeaucques Quœure (talk) 03:41, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Civilian Public Service

Civilian Public Service has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 15:16, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Deletion Discussion of the Robert Heisner Article

Article Deletion Discussion - Robert Heisner Article

An article deletion discussion is ongoing about Robert Heisner, a Chrisitan minister who was also a martial arts expert who developed a new karate style.

If you are interested in this deletion discussion, you can find it here...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Robert_Heisner#Robert_Heisner — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bushido77 (talk • contribs) 01:18, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Arian controversy needs attention

Strong viewpoint pushing from a self-proclaimed expert. Mangoe (talk) 17:46, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

I second this request! Not just that article, but a vast number of articles related to Trinitarian theology, Arianism, and Early Church History have been rewritten in an argumentative/polemical style by AndriesvN, an Arian apologist who often copies/cites from their personal blog revelationbyjesuschrist.com in edits. There's currently an ANI open on them recommending a topic ban: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#AndriesvN_and_Christian_theology_articles

Given how prolific the user in question has been, it's going to be a huge task going through it all and bringing it up to Wikipedia standards (see user's contributions). All help is appreciated! HieronymusNatalis (talk) 11:21, 2 November 2024 (UTC)

UPDATE: AndriesvN has been indef blocked as of today for being WP:NOTHERE. However, their numerous edits remain in serious need of review. See Special:Contributions/AndriesvN for a sense of what pages need work. It's a pretty hefty task. Thanks for any help! -HieronymusNatalis (talk) 17:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Depending on how many other editors have added positive content that is not just a modification of content added by AndriesvN, you might consider opening a discussion on whether it would be easier to roll the article all the way back to a point before they started editing. It might be easier to reinstate the good edits by other editors since that time, than to undo all the bad edits by AndriesvN. This would require discussion and consensus by editors, but is definitely an option; I was involved in reverting about 800 edits by someone doing the same thing to one of the Indian art history articles, I forget which one. We had strong consensus, and the rollback was successfully carried out, with a minimum of stress or strife. The key is take your time, and gain a strong consensus for it. I would not jump straight to Rfc; a discussion section may be sufficient. Mathglot (talk) 17:29, 3 November 2024 (UTC)