Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2021–22 Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final (2nd nomination)

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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 13:22, 7 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2021–22 Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final

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Recreation of deleted page; this exactly matches the deleted page with the exception of undefined references which links to pages that contain nothing more than "NO DATA AVAILABLE". Speedy deletion {{Db-g4}} tag was removed by Materialscientist. No effort made to provide any references to this future event, so WP:CRYSTAL still applies. Mikeblas (talk) 10:51, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:56, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:56, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:56, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:53, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 12:57, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Per nom. — Qwerfjkl talk 15:16, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: or redirect. Notable sporting event scheduled to be held. Can be deleted if not held, but all signs point to it being held. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:33, 19 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and Salt until closer to the event per WP:CRYSTAL.4meter4 (talk) 01:22, 26 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - The event is only a few months away, it's common to have an article created in advance of the event actually happening. There seems to be plenty of evidence that the event is actually going to occur. Per WP:BEFORE, I found an article published a week ago that mentions the upcoming event. The original article was deleted back in February, which is admittedly a bit too early for an article on an event in December. But we're a lot closer now. —⁠ScottyWong⁠— 20:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, and definitely do not salt. Salting is a ridiculous action for a page that is likely to be needed very soon. The page is no longer an exact duplicate of the deleted article, so the nomination is now out of date and invalid. It contains sourced information on the impact of Covid on the event. If nothing else, it will become an article on the event cancellation – this is an important event in the ice skating calendar, it will be a big story either way, cancelled or going ahead. The criticism that some of the refs return "No information available" is entirely to be expected. Those are the refs for the official results, so until there are some actual results that is going to remain the case. SpinningSpark 12:11, 28 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 00:11, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per CRYSTAL: "should be included only if the event is notable and almost certain to take place." Also note that the 2020–21 Grand Prix of Figure Skating Final was cancelled, but has an article anyway. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:15, 29 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, I see that last year's final has been put up for Afd too. Clarityfiend (talk) 06:23, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The event is only a few months away, deleting this article only to recreate it later on creates extra work and isn't beneficial to our readers. NemesisAT (talk) 19:01, 1 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Per above – the page is going to be re-created with the same content again if it gets deleted now. All signs currently point to the event being held as scheduled, so meets WP:CRYSTAL. Sunnyou31 (talk) 22:25, 2 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's not the actual competition; it should be a section of the main article when and only when it takes place. Double Plus Ungood (talk) 18:13, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify: per WP:CRYSTAL. ––FormalDude talk 04:00, 6 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.