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Nomination of John Shand for deletion
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A discussion is taking place as to whether the article John Shand is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Shand until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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Speedy deletion nomination of Peter Barr
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You PRODded this, I deleted it, but that has been challenged, so see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sophie Louise Bay. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 22:00, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
QSO
Re this edit, are you saying that receiving a QSO makes you automatically notable? If so, is there broad agreement on this? I'm not questioning your stance, I'm just trying to clarify whether I understand you correctly. One consequence of this is that we should redlink recipients of the QSO on the Birthday Honours pages etc. Schwede66 17:30, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- it's probably more of a personal call, to be honest. I'd not auto-create these without a stronger consensus. 19:37, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:High_Commission_of_Mozambique,_London Sdrawkcab (talk) 20:09, 11 November 2013 (UTC)sdrawkcab
- See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/High Commission of Mozambique, London for my rationale. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:16, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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Your {{prod}} of The Victim of Lust
After you placed {{prod}} tags on two articles I started I thought I would look at other recent {{prod}}s you left. Are those who place {{prod}} tags expected to comply with the advice of WP:BEFORE? Because, if they are, no offense, but I think your efforts fell short with your {{prod}} of The Victim of Lust.
About half a minute with google's book search confirmed for me that there existed numerous books that covered The Victim of Lust, which seems to have been not merely a forgotten and forgettable piece of 19th century smut, but rather one of the most popular and best remembered 19th century books of this genre. Bram Stoker, author of the original Dracula novel wrote about it.
I added some more references, and removed your {{prod}}. Geo Swan (talk) 21:15, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
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I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Sound map, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! TonyBallioni (talk) 01:50, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
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Could you explain more fully your concerns over Robert S. Pierson (ship) and Saginaw (ship, 1953)?
You placed {{prod}} tags on Robert S. Pierson (ship) and Saginaw (ship, 1953). I have started dozens of articles on vessels. The last time any of them were challenged were these four:
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kwasind
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ongiara (ship, 1885)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Frankfurt (icebreaker)
- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keiler
From your contribution history you seem to be well-intentioned quality control volunteer. I think the guy who made those four nominations was wikihounding me. I questioned him when he and some other India nationalists were making some really lousy and policy-noncompliant arguments in a {{tfd}} related to the India/Pakistan conflict over Kashmir.
The comment where he withdrew his first nomination said: "Withdrawing nomination Although this still fails WP:GNG but only because everyone else feels this boat is a Ship and lack of WP:NSHIPS and WP:NBOATS (no clear notability guidelines so far)".
It is true that there is no WP:NSHIPS and WP:NBOATS. But, I think if you look at the {{afd}}s you will see that there is a pretty firm consensus that vessels of this type are notable. One participant in those discussions suggested that the rule of thumb could be vessels longer than 30 metres or 100 feet. I have my own rule of thumb.
So, if you think these vessels are non-notable for some reason that didn't apply to the Kwasind, Ongiara (ship, 1885), Frankfurt (icebreaker) and Keiler, could you explain that reasoning more fully?
The two vessels in question are special purpose lake freighters. There are currently about 100 lake freighters, the oldest being about 100 years old (fresh water freighters don't wear out nearly as quickly as salt water vessels), and maybe there one or two hundred former vessels. When there are sufficient references -- about as many as in these two articles -- I think we could cover them all. Note: these vessels will probably carry more than a billion dollars worth of cargo, over their lifetimes.
The Edmund Fitzgerald, the lake vessel that sank, and whose loss was commemorated in the song, The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, is probably the most famous lake vessel. Another approach would be to only cover vessels as famous as the Edmund Fitzgerald, that were wrecked spectacularly. But that would be very biased coverage, implying these vessels were much more unsafe than they actually are.
If you choose not explain your reasoning more fully I will remove those {{prod}} tags in a couple of days, linking to this comment as my explanation.
Cheers! Geo Swan (talk) 21:15, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- @Geo Swan: Probably I'll put the least-sourced one up for AfD sometime shortly. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:24, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
- You nominated MV Saginaw for {{afd}} nine minutes after I left the civil questions above. Clearly nine minutes was not long enough for you to review the four earlier {{afd}} I advised you of above. I think you let yourself down, and let down the entire community, by choosing not to take the collegial step of reviewing the earlier discussions so you skipped considering the possibility you made a mistake. I don't think there is any way you could have reviewed those earlier discussions without realizing how counter to the prevailing consensus your concerns were.
- If I were your friend I would give you a friendly warning that by choosing to escalate from {{prod}} to {{afd}} you risk leaving other contributors with the impression you just can't be bothered to interact with other contributors in a collegial manner. I think you should be concerned it made you look reckless.
- I think you let the entire project down here, as all of the people who read or participated in the {{afd}} would have had that time to spend more productively, if only you had been able to bring yourself to read the clear consensus in the earlier discussions. If you had read those earlier discussions properly, you wouldn't have made a nomination unless you could come up with new and compelling arguments for deletion, and if you realized you didn't have new and compelling arguments for deletion you would have removed the {{prod}} tags yourself, or agreed they should be removed.
- I added your {{prod}}s to Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/AFD. Geo Swan (talk) 15:33, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
- If you feel aggrieved, I encourage you to take the issue to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or similar, since I see my behaviour as entirely reasonable. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
- I think we both know that the best moment to seek administrator attention to your lapses of collegiality would have been when I first noticed your escalation of a {{prod}} to an {{afd}}.
- If someone else checks your talk page history, to see how many other people have concerns, they will find my concerns. If they seek administrator assistance they will be able to point to this thread, to illustrate you have shown an ongoing pattern of ignoring good faith feedback. Geo Swan (talk) 20:20, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
- If you feel aggrieved, I encourage you to take the issue to Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents or similar, since I see my behaviour as entirely reasonable. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:22, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
- I added your {{prod}}s to Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/AFD. Geo Swan (talk) 15:33, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
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For your hugely valuable contributions to Wikipedia, I award you the original WP barnstar. Schwede66 20:39, 25 November 2013 (UTC) |
Regarding your query on my talk page, Geo Swan: I have not looked at your specific case; sorry, I should have spelled that out. I have worked a lot with Stuartyeates and he has always been a very good editor. There are people niggling on his talk page about a series of 3000 or so stubs that he once created and that was one of the best things anybody ever did on WP; it's hugely helpful for NZ editors to have all that stubs. Hence, I disagree, in a general sense, that there is something on Stuartyeates' talk page that points to a wider problem. Schwede66 01:57, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Notification of "article" deletion
Hi,
Don't know if you're watching my page or not, as it was only a boilerplate notification you left (and possibly automated), but you might want to read my reply on the proposed deletion of "my" article.
All the best, Ubcule (talk) 23:06, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
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You dropped something by my talk page about this page. It is terrible and should be deleted in its (then) current form. However, that is not the page I created, which was a straightforward redirect to the Brazilian Ministry of National Integration which is perfectly notable.
You may want to drop something by the talk page of whoever created the (rather awful) (then) current page but for now I'm just deleting everything (it's something like a line of unsourced text between several large templates complaining about the line of text) and restoring my redirect.
If that doesn't fix the problem and I have to go somewhere to explain why there should be a redirect, let me know. Otherwise, good show letting the page creator know about the process but remember to check if the original page was a redirect to something else. Restoring it might fix the problem you had with the current page. — LlywelynII 23:38, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Hm. Apparently this has happened to you before. So, yes, kindly check the description line on that initial edit as you go. — LlywelynII 23:44, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #86
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Non-notable?
Re your "non-notable" tag on the article on the 1936 film The Wagon and the Star which I created, and which was red-linked on the List of New Zealand films, I had already included a reference to Martin & Edwards 1997 book "New Zealand Film 1912-1996" in which this film has a one page article, like all the films in the book (apart from the "international films ass. with NZ" in the appendix). Hugo999 (talk) 20:49, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
- Sources that list all of something (like all New Zealand movies) are considered WP:ROUTINE coverage. Most of the stubs you have been creating look fine, but this one seems borderline to me. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:56, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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Wikidata weekly summary #87
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I reverted your proposed deletion, because I don't think you articulated a valid reason to delete, and this might be controversial. Could you instead merge it? Bearian (talk)
- Replied on Talk:Mango_flavor. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:29, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
Sockpuppetry case
An SPI case has been filed regarding you. I haven't had a detailed look through the evidence but any ideas as to the possible links suggested would be appreciated. Maybe something to do with the Education Program or just two people interested in the same area? Anyway, if you could comment when you get a chance that would be really helpful. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 13:30, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
- Apologies about that. Hopefully it was dealt with in a satisfactory manner. NativeForeigner Talk 07:17, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
- It was handled very well by all parties but the IP, thank you. Stuartyeates (talk) 09:39, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
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This is an empty category you created that has been proposed for deletion. If you know of any articles that could be assigned to it, please do so to prevent its deletion. Thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 16:25, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
- I created it to contain an article that has since been deleted. Let the cat die a natural death. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:35, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Deletion of HC of Mozambique in London
Hi Stuartyeates,
I see that you deleted my page for the High Commission of Mozambique. I have restored it for now - if you would like to delete it again feel free but please could you do the following first:
- Delete everything other single 'Embassy of XX in London' page. Here's a handy link to get you started: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Diplomatic_missions_in_the_United_Kingdom
- Then get to work on all the embassies in Canada: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Diplomatic_missions_in_Ottawa
- There's quite a few in Russia you'll need to get working on also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_diplomatic_missions_in_Russia
- Oh, almost forgot, there's the United States also to do: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Diplomatic_missions_in_the_United_States
When you've finished with that lot let me know and I'll go ahead and delete the Mozambique page.
Sdrawkcab (talk) 20:03, 13 December 2013 (UTC)sdrawkcab
- this is a page deleted at AfD. If you wish to recreate the page, you need a deletion review. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:58, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #91
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Deletion review for High Commission of Mozambique, London
An editor has asked for a deletion review of High Commission of Mozambique, London. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Sdrawkcab (talk) 00:23, 16 December 2013 (UTC)sdrawkcab
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Wikidata weekly summary #89
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- Fun Fact: The Mayan calendar (Q2012) did not correctly predict the end of the world nor the end of Q items as Wikidata (Q2013) went on to host Wikipedia links this year.
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- Happy Holidays from the dev team! Have a great time and continue being awesome ;-)
- Improved and added a lot of tests
- Worked on displaying qualifiers in the non-JavaScript UI
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- Worked on preventing the import of wikitext into the main and property namespace
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Wikidata weekly summary #90
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Contested Prod Michael L. Brown
I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Michael L. Brown, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! TonyBallioni (talk) 16:32, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
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Thank you for you help in editing my article. I am new at Wikipedia and very confused:) Appreciate it much! Annavladi (talk) 00:02, 30 December 2013 (UTC) |