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I did quite a bit of copyedit/cleanup work on the college football on television article and you simply reverted it. If there is actual content to add, please add it. But creating empty sections and linking non-existent articles does not improve Wikipedia. jareha05:25, 27 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Your edits here weren't really appropriate since your additions weren't actually 'loopholes' so much as ways of breaking the law and getting away with it, which isn't really relevant to the article. --InShaneee20:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've merged that into the page on Keith Jackson; his bio article is not particularly large, so there doens't seem to be any need for a seperate page. If you disagree, please drop me a note on my talk page, so we can discuss it. Thanks for adding that info, though; it's nice to have. (and the mention of your souces is good, too.) JesseW, the juggling janitor 09:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Will you please refrain from adding these inappropriate grouping to articles. Your ones on Michael Jordan have now been reverted at least twice. Smaller articles do not need this kind of grouping and larger ones like the Jordan article, do not need that much subgrouping. In the end you are only ruining the flow of many articles and in the cases of smaller ones, they have become unreadable. -Thebdj16:10, 4 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Levineps,
Sometimes you can have too many section headings. We don't need a separate header for every paragraph - this is why I've removed the headers you added to Bill Clinton. Please try to section articles into broad topics, as opposed to individual paragraphs. Thank you. Rhobite02:00, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
If you're making major edits to an article, such as Bill Clinton, it's always better to discuss your edits beforehand on the talk page. Could you please post a message on Talk:Bill Clinton explaining why you are trying to split the article? I'm not sure that this needs to be done, and I don't think "Bill Clinton's Post-Presidency" and "Clinton's Foreign Policy" are the best names for these pages. Rhobite03:13, 8 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not split or merge a page without making an edit summary indicating that you did so. The GFDL requires acknowledgement of all contributors, and editors continue to hold copyright on their contributions unless they specifically give up this right. Without entering a summary such as "spliting content from Super Bowl XL", it looks like you wrote the entire Reaction to Officiating in Super Bowl XL article yourself. Thanks. Zzyzx11(Talk)18:45, 25 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey, I just wanted to tell you what a nice job you have done fixing up the article recently. All of your info has sources and I find it interesting to know the broadcasters of the draft. Great job! Tigersfan1992How you doing?20:13, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi. You seem to be changing all the McCain articles under the edit subject "spacing". If you are changing two spaces after sentences to one (what it seems like), please be advised those two spaces are intentional. They are permitted by the MoS and I use them to better spot where sentences begin when I am in edit mode, since these articles have many inline footnotes and can be hard to follow when looking at the source. Thanks. Wasted Time R (talk) 19:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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AfD nomination of United States election night television coverage
Please do not change dates on templates, such as fact templates. These dates are added at the time the templates are added so as to give some sort of chronology as to their placement and an indication of how long they have been there. I notice you've been making a lot of these formatting-type edits and I request that you change these dates back to the original ones. Thank you, NcSchu(Talk)18:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please be advised again that double spaces after periods are in some articles intentionally, to aid in editing, and are permitted by the MoS. Our readers see no difference in the actual article they view. Your changing these to single spaces just makes for editing churn for no benefit. Wasted Time R (talk) 20:28, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not change 2000 census figures on articles without a very good reason (edit summary). This may be construed as vandalism. A footnote should probably be used.Student7 (talk) 11:40, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See above. I actually dropped this on your talk page earlier (as you may have noticed from the spurious "new messages"), but I backed up because I misinterpreted one of your edits as not doing this. But now I look again and see that you are still doing this. This task is pointless. Double spaces in articles are for the editors' benefit, since readers see no difference. If the main editors to an article prefer to use double spaces (such as myself), let them; by going around changing the style, you're only annoying editors. This would be a really lame thing to go to administrators over, so please just stop. SnowFire (talk) 08:19, 29 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I see that you continue to remove double spaces completely pointlessly, nor respond. For the last time: both styles are allowed by the MOS. It's just like British vs. American English. This is about the lamest reason to be blocked ever, but repeated and constant breach of the MOS has gotten people blocked before for those who spent all their time changing British->American or vice versa. Spacing is an even sillier issue than that. I'd recommend some kind of dispute resolution, except that there is no dispute; editors are not allowed to unilaterally switch optional style points in every article like reference styles, dialects, or spacing. Are you at all interested in responding? If you continue to make these utterly pointless and actually counterproductive edits, then I'll bring the issue up on the Administrator's noticeboard next. Which would be ridiculous for such a minor issue. Please stop. SnowFire (talk) 19:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed. What's more, many of your other spacing edits, such as ones in "External links" sections that change "* [http://..." to "*[http://...", are completely pointless too. The end result looks no different to the reader either way. And the churn in the articles due to these edits makes doing version differences to find real content changes that much more difficult, because we have to read through and disregard your stuff. Surely there is something more important you can do on this project than this! Wasted Time R (talk) 22:05, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just wanted to echo what these other editors were saying. I spent a good 5 minutes looking at Coach (baseball) trying to figure out what you "cleaned up" until I realized that it was just spacing changes that made no visual impact on the web site... I'm not sure what the point was. I whole heartedly welcome anyone who can write better than me or who has better information than me to come in and edit artciles I put a fair ammount of work into, especially to fix my typos. But just changing non-end user spacing? Twice? I don't get it buddy... Coastalsteve984 (talk) 12:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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I have recommended moving (renaming) the Bear Bryant article to Paul Bryant, since this is an encyclopedic site it seems to me that Coach Bryant's real name would be more appropriate. I would appreciate it though, since you are a regular editor of the article, to include your opinion in the (discussion) of the pending move. Thanks! Rtr10 (talk) 23:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I ran across this edit[[1] of yours, which resulted in deleting relevant, referenced material which was not previously included in Presidency of Gerald Ford. I have re-inserted a portion[2]. This move also necessitated corrections of other articles that had linked to it. I also note from a cursory check, that other sections in the former are similarly not now included in the latter (e.g. #Accession).
Please weigh in on the talk page. Restoring the section violates WP:OR. I'm willing to add some games, but not without some sort of standard or external source. — X96lee15 (talk) 06:20, 4 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm not sure what the meaning of this edit is, but this is completely incorrect for a few reasons. What Wikipedia policy are you attempting to follow here?
I've been noticing that you've been doing that type of stuff to a lot of articles concerning lists of sports event broadcasters. The World Series has been on television since the 1940s and on the radio since the 1920s. It would be awfully impractical and neglectful (in my estimation) to simply do a "one and done" format with the editing. Many, many announcers have covered the World Series multiple times (e.g. Curt Gowdy, Vin Scully, Tim McCarver, Joe Garagiola, Mel Allen, etc.). Tim McCarver for instance, has called World Series games for three different networks (ABC, CBS, and FOX) since 1985. So by your logic, Tim McCarver's name should only be linked for the 1985 series. TMC1982 (talk) 12:11 a.m., 13 December 2008 (UTC)
I've reverted your heading changes as you made almost all the headings in the entire article subheads of a single head. Seems pointless and confusing. Was there a reason? Happy Chanukah Bellagio99 (talk) 19:57, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Thanks for cleaning up my additions to "United States presidential election, 2008" (popular votes for 3rd parties). I'd like to understand what needed cleanup, and how I can improve future additions. Unfortunately, the "differences" page (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_presidential_election,_2008&curid=406859&diff=260998847&oldid=260988541 ) is not very enlightening; it shows seemingly-similar text, but with different coloring (which might be an irrelevant artifact of the display), but leaves me ignorant of what I should have done differently. e.g.
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Alan Keyes (America's Independent Party) received 47,768 votes. He was listed in three states: Colorado and Florida, plus California (listed as "American Independent"), and also had write-in status in Kentucky, Ohio, Texas, and Utah
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Alan Keyes (America's Independent Party) received 47,768 votes. He was listed in three states: Colorado and Florida, plus California (listed as "American Independent"), and also had write-in status in Kentucky, Ohio, Texas, and Utah.
Aside from the space after the asterisk and some spaces between lines (as well as a few rewordings), I cannot tell what the differences are.
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This looks to me to be an unnecessary edit to make, generally former presidents are referred as president even after they are out of office especially when talking about administrative actions taken when they were still in office, just look at the Stephen Breyer article for an example where it reads that he was Appointed by Democratic President Bill Clinton it would be awkward for it to read the then-President Bill Clinton, I realized that President Bush is very unpopular and pointing out that he is no longer the president is a joy to those who despise him and his presidency however it doesn't seem like it should be something used in an encyclopedia.68.115.186.143 (talk) 01:50, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with this poster, you've made a slew of bad edits in this regard. In historical writing, it's always assumed that the position given for someone is their position at the time being described, not the time the reader is reading it. The "then-" form is not needed. Nobody writes, "In 1862, then-President Lincoln freed the slaves." They just write, "In 1862, President Lincoln freed the slaves." It's equally unnecessary to write, as you did here, "In 2007, then-President George W. Bush appointed Dole ..." In at least one case, you've made things even worse: this edit adding a "former" ended up saying "in August 2004 ... He described former President Bush's policy regarding ..." This makes it sound like Bush 41 is being referenced, when it's really Bush 43. Please consider going back and undoing all of these inappropriate usages. Thank you. Wasted Time R (talk) 04:57, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, Lev. Hey, looking at this edit, I wanted to ask you, do you really think that a section header in a stub of this length is necessary? I actually don't mind it; it just seems superfluous. I don't care, either way, and will not be reverting it. I just sometimes can't help writing down my random thoughts, and this one ended up on your talk page. Unschool17:52, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As a user who is apparently new to our efforts on this article, you have apparently unilaterally opted to move almost all of the legal and financial troubles content, including the portions which are current events and ongoing, into a sub-article. I feel that move is inappropriate. I would agree that some of the many details could be moved if we don't lose the big picture in the primary article, but what has been done as of now is unacceptable. I will wait a few hours to see comments on the article talk page and give you a chance to respond and/or cleanup and restore the main points before proceeding to work on it myself. Vaoverland (talk) 20:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think you and I are thinking the same thing with regard to Kentucky. A while back, I tried to go back and source the information that was there to get the article up to GA, but this just resulted in a mammoth article that was still nowhere near GA. At the time, my motivation was to make Kentucky the first GA state article. Well, we've missed that, but the benefit is that we now have several models to follow (FAs: Minnesota and Oklahoma; GAs: Pennsylvania, North Carolina, South Dakota, and Texas). The more I think about it, the more I believe getting this article to GA or FA is going to require creating an alternate version (at say, User:Levineps/Kentucky or User:Acdixon/Kentucky), then trying to get a consensus to replace the existing article with the new one. If you're up for trying this, I could probably pull myself away from improving Kentucky governor articles long enough to give it a shot. Let me know what you think. Acdixon(talk • contribs • count)20:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You recently created the Energy usage in California, most likely by moving the "Energy" section from the California page to that one (perhaps adding a little more information). Do you really think it is wise to leave a blank section in the California page? All it says right now is the templated "See the main article in Energy usage in California" or something similar. Killiondude (talk) 06:26, 18 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Several people have complained about your splitting of articles. Please read Wikipedia:Splitting and follow the proper procedure. Discuss things before you do it and make sure you leave an adequate summary in the parent article as well as the link pointing to the split content. - Mgm|(talk)12:12, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I have noticed you do a lot of constructive editorial work. However, you repeatedly split articles unnecessarily and leave them in unfinished split state. I have contacted you to discuss you split of John Beilein, but you have not returned my communication. Baseball player career statistics are not normally split like you have split Barry Bonds. Coaching careers are not normally split either.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:37, 8 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Seconded; I've seen a couple you have split without any need; you haven't lengthened them, they aren't long enough to justify their own article and you've just copy-pasted the text without any thought. Please stop doing it. Ironholds (talk) 13:13, 15 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I see this isn't a new problem to this page. Your splitting out of the filmography portion of Leonardo DiCaprio was done without even an edit summary in explanation, much less first broaching it on the talk page to gauge editor opinion on doing so. The article was 38kb prior to this and the filmography took up only 6kb. The article is not long enough to warrant splitting part of it off. Also, splitting it in that manner removes the history for the contributions leading to the filmography, a great deal of which I added. This is done without consensus and is not, as you've been told multiple times over last couple of months, being done without benefit of editor input. Please stop splitting article content outside of process and consensus. Wildhartlivie (talk) 17:02, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Additionally, your re-addition of the == Biography == heading to this article was contrary to guidelines, and your filmography was mis-spelled, and I have had to delete it as an implausible redirect. All in all, you seem to plough your own furrow here regardless of policy, guidelines, or the input of other editors, and do not communicate effectively. You create work for others, especially Admins, who have to clean up after you. This must stop as it is too disruptive. If it does not, I'm afraid your editing days here are over, and you make take this as a final warning. Thanks. --Rodhullandemu17:27, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Do you understand that you have been warned for the last time, and if you split an article without consulting the talk page you will be blocked? --Moni3 (talk) 18:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
No, it's a question. I cannot tell if you understand that you will be blocked if you split another article without consulting the talk page first. Avruch warned you several threads up there, and Rodhullemu made it fairly clear as I read it, but your lack of response, then type of response to this makes me think you may not be able to understand what is being said to you. --Moni3 (talk) 18:48, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I guess I don't take wikipedia as seriously as some of you, I guess I must have more of a life. But anyways, I think I have made many productive contributions to wikipedia, so I would hate to be blocked, but I would not shed a tear over it.--Levineps (talk) 18:52, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It's quite simple. Please continue to contribute to articles. Do not split articles without consulting their talk pages or you will be blocked. --Moni3 (talk) 18:57, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you revert all of my merges? As is shown above, you have a history of inappropriately splitting articles without discussion or even leaving an edit summary! There is no reason to be splitting every single football team's logos and uniforms section. You just split and then do nothing to the new articles, leaving them without references, etc. And really, the logos and uniforms do not have any notability on their own. You may claim that the main articles were getting too long, but that is false: Tennessee Titans was only 12kb, and Cincinnati Bengals was only 16kb, not nearly long enough to require another split. Since you have continued this inappropriate behavior without any discussion or comment to your reasoning, I have notified you back to User:Moni3. Reywas92Talk21:29, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please stay out of my conversations that have nothing to do with you. I am engaging in peaceful discussion with William Saturn trying to work something out about an article. I have not reverted anyone's edits, and I have left edit summaries explaining my actions. Reywas92Talk20:58, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In your edit summary here, you said, "Rey, gotta use the talk page once again." If you knew the purpose of an edit summary, you'd see that in my edit I left a link to where I DID use the talk page: at Talk:Capital One Bowl. Simply using the undo button is not going to help. Please give me an actual reason why these articles must be separate; there's absolutely nothing wrong with them being merged, and the length of the article is just fine per WP:SIZE. Reywas92Talk18:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
WHY do you keep undoing me? I do not want to be enemies, but you need to make use of civil discussion. I am making a legitimate edit, and you just click the undo button without giving a single reason WHY you are doing so. In this edit and this edit, you just undo me giving NO explanation. Please learn how to use an Help:Edit summary. There is no reason to have the entire article under a single header when everything can be understood without it just fine. The entire article is a biography of the person, so there should not be a header defining that. If you disagree, then please use the talk page or an edit summary!! If you continue to revert me without rhyme or reason or discussion, I will report you to WP:ANI. Reywas92Talk03:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You may not be aware of this, but the current consensus is not to link team-season articles from biographies, per the principle of least astonishment and guidelines at WP:OVERLINK. Just wanted to let you know. Thanks. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:47, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, I am unaware of this. But why is this policy in place. It makes the most sense to be as specific as possible. If a biography says they played a game in a specific year, why not direct them to the most direct source.--Levineps (talk) 14:53, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey, thanks for contributing to Wikipedia but the main Kansas City Chiefs article is currently listed as a "Good Article" the way it is. It underwent a review and was recommended to not have so many subheadings ("Marty Era", "Edwards era") and links to team's individual seasons or articles. Don't mind me changing the article back, but this is how Wikipedia will keep the article maintained, as is. It prevents the article from being too long and drawn out, and easier for some people to load onto their web explorer. Too many links can overload the page. Thanks again. conman33 (. . .talk)00:52, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just wondering if I could get you opinion on something Talk:Manchester mayoral election, 2009 (New Hampshire) is where the discussion is. So there is an disagreement between me and another editor on what the page should be I believe it should be the one posted above and he thinks it should be Manchester, New Hampshire mayoral election, 2009 just wondering if you could contribute thanks Gang14 (talk) 05:11, 6 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
What the heck is wrong with you? I know you have been following my edits. You do plenty of your own stuff to sports and politics articles (most of which edits are completely useless; your little removing whitespace doesn't even show up when viewing a diff), but by checking the histories of the pages I've edited, you continue to show up after me. It sickens me when you continue to UNDO my edits and do not explain WHY in an edit summary. Reywas92Talk16:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
While making various improvements to the Urban Meyer article today, you also modified the "Florida Gators football coaches" category, making it applicable only to "head coaches." The existing category included every Gators head coach since 1906, and approximately 2 dozen significant assistant head coaches that went on to bigger things beyond Gainesville. By making the category phrasing change, you have now placed Urban Meyer in a category that included only one person, and have separated him from all of his nearly 50 Gator coaching colleagues. While I do agree that Urban Meyer is in a class by himself, I hope you will see fit to revert your change to the "Florida Gators football coaches" category to the simpler form and restore Urban to his predecessors and colleagues.
BTW, I am one of the Wikiproject University of Florida editors, and I have been very active in trying to impose uniform categories, external links, and other cross-references as articles have been substantially re-written. If you would like to cooperate with these efforts, I would be happy to discuss them with you at length. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:58, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The current consensus is that these lists are named as "managers" unless owners are included. I've reverted the move to the Phillies list; have other lists been moved as well? At the very least, a discussion needs to be had before moving these. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 21:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I see the above notes from multiple users haven't dissuaded you from continuing to create these ethnicity–occupation categories. Could you discuss this, please? Note than intersections of ethnicity and occupation are not usually defining, and thus not appropriate for categorization. People are usually categorized by nationality–occupation combinations and by ethnicities, but not by ethnicity–occupation combinations. Please, say something before creating any more of these so we can know where you are coming from. Good Ol’factory(talk)04:23, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You have been blocked from editing Wikipedia for a period of 16 hours as a result of your disruptive edits. You have continued to create dubious categories and have ignored attempts here to discuss the appropriateness of these edits. After the block expires please do not continue these edits without responding here. Good Ol’factory(talk)00:43, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe that I have intentionally made dubious categories. I believe I should have been given a warning before I was given this block. I am sorry that my actions were not perceived to be appropriate.--Levineps (talk) 00:52, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You did not regard my second posting above to be sufficient warning? I was practically begging you to respond. I'll lift the block and we'll consider it to be the warning—how about that? Good Ol’factory(talk)01:42, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't mean to make you stay away from them completely; I just thought we could discuss the issues I set out above. There aren't any others that I am concerned about. Good Ol’factory(talk)02:04, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I see you've been sporadically creating these; one has already been listed for deletion, at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2009_October_29#Category:Washington_State_Cougars_basketball_venues. It's difficult for me to see the benefit to categorizing with this degree of specificity, given that these categories are not going to have more than one or two entries. Before you create any more, you should participate in the CFD and see what others think about such a category scheme. Given the above comments, you might be better off discussing any categories you want to create with other editors before you create them. postdlf (talk) 22:50, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Let's not go through this again, Levineps. Concern has been expressed about one of these categories and it's been suggested you probably shouldn't create any more for the time being. I don't think it's a good idea to keep creating them when so far no one else has commented in the discussion that this categorization scheme is a good idea. Good Ol’factory(talk)00:47, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Levineps, I see you are going through and creating season sub-categories under each football program's main category. When you do so, can you be sure that these new seasons categories sort properly under their respective program's main category. For example, Category:Ball State Cardinals football seasons, should be listed under Category:Ball State Cardinals football with a "|Seasons", i.e. [[Category:Ball State Cardinals football|Seasons]] so that it sorts under S and not B. Thanks, Jweiss11 (talk) 16:35, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The way the category sorting works is that all capitalized letters come first, then lower cases ones. The site-wide convention in place is to use capital letters for major sub-categories. Jweiss11 (talk) 16:49, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A couple other things I want to mention:
1) The category sorting stuff I mentioned about the seasons sub-categories...the same logic applies to other kinds of subcategories. For example, bowl games sub-cats should have a "|Bowl games".
2) I see that for a number of team season pages that have been categorized under a conference season category, Big Ten Conference teams in particular, you have deleted the NCAA D-I season category as well. I think that should probably not be done at this point. For one, it makes the team pages harder to locate from the NCAA D-I season category if you aren't sure what conference the team was in that year. Second, teams technically do play some games outside of their conference. It's a fine point how you want to define the conference season (i.e. only conference games or all games played by conference members). Whatever the case, at least until we build some consensus how to handle the season conference categories within the NCAA season categories, I think we should leave things be.
I see your point with the first one and I will try to do it. However, it's over-categorization if the 1960 Big Ten page is as well as the 1960 Ohio State team as well. Sorry about that but I do believe this is right.
When I was reverting vandalism I inadvertently reverted one of your edits. However when I went to replace your contribution I noticed you removed relevant categories from the University of Missouri page. So I left the current version with the categories intact. Just curious as to why you removed the categories? Grey Wanderer (talk) 20:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
overcaterogization and categories already mentioned in the category.
What's the use of creating all of these American-films-by-type categories if you only put one or two articles in it, when there are dozens that could be added to each? Are you going to come back and fully populate them. Or are you just expecting another editor will decide to do it? Such half-hearted categorization can be very frustrating for readers. If we're going to create a category, we should populate it as best we can! Good Ol’factory(talk)23:44, 18 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I realise that, but the question is are you going to do it? It would seem more sense to me to create a category—populate it; create—populate, rather than create, create, create, create, and then neglect population. (I'm not clear on what you mean that what you are doing is "preventing over-categorization".) Good Ol’factory(talk)00:04, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(No, actually, you don't ... It's been one problem after another much of the time.) Putting that aside—my real question is it going to be done or are you just going to create a lot of sparsely-populated categories that are not appropriately filled as they could be? Good Ol’factory(talk)00:09, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
My opinion about the past isn't the point. I have repeated the question because I wasn't sure if you were clear that I was asking a question, because it's not being answered. If you don't answer, I'll assume the answer is that you are not going to populate them and you are embarrassed to say so. Good Ol’factory(talk)00:13, 19 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I've noticed you've been involved in editing Big 12 related articles. I'm trying to gauge the interested in created a Big 12 WikiProject and wondered if you'd like to be involved. There are already pages for WikiProject Big Ten and WikiProject ACC. A Big 12 project would cover the schools themselves and anything to do with conference sports including: events, rivalries, teams, seasons, championships and lore. There is already quite a bit of activity here on Wikipedia regarding the Big 12, and I think a project could help coordinate and unify are efforts. Please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Big 12, if you are interested and add your name to the list. Grey Wanderer (talk) 23:43, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Great work with the college basketball cats so far; I've also been trying to get them cleaned up a bit. Just two things: remember to use an endash, not a regular hyphen, for all years (i.e. 1982–83 instead of 1982-83). Also, Division I only existed after 1973; before that, it was known as the University Division. Thanks! Pats1T/C21:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please explain what is and what is not your definition of over-categorization, since we are not understanding each other and are apparently working at cross-purposes. -- Foofighter20x (talk) 07:34, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Basically when a parent category and subcat are in the same article and the former isn't as relevant. But it is not an exact science.--Levineps (talk) 07:36, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. Can you explain then why U.S. House and U.S. Senate are relevant cats for EC? Point is, I can't perceive any consistency in these categorization edits you are making, and you aren't explaining or justifying them in your summary block comments. Additionally, certain categories you are including could be perceived as a POV/bias, such as putting Southern U.S. as a category on states' rights. -- Foofighter20x (talk) 08:01, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Seems you're having similar conversations below, yet you didn't respond here. so I moved the single article you had moved to "Hmim" back up to "HmiNY" and "MiM". Please add a db-author to the "Hmim" category, or if you dont want to, someone will come along in a few days and clean it up. Thanks dm (talk) 02:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You popped up on my watchlist after removing the "Patriot League" category from the Lehigh University article [5]. I'm just leaving you a message because I'm a little curious as to why you removed that category (you didn't leave an edit summary). Lehigh is a member of the Patriot League so at least to me it makes sense it should be included in the category, unless I'm missing something (which is quite possible..I'm not too familiar with how categories work). Thanks. --Aka042 (talk) 16:49, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I had noticed the lack of college listings on that page. However, after browsing most of the leagues in College athletics conferences, it seems like the actually universities themselves are listed on the Conference subcategories (for example, just starting from the top of the list, see Allegheny Mountain Collegiate Conference, America East Conference, etc.). Looking at the Patriot League article, specifically Patriot League#Full members, the universities themselves are listed as members as opposed to the teams. I see what you are saying and it makes sense...I don't feel strongly either way but it just seems like there should be some sort of standard regarding what actually gets included in each conference's category (teams, universities, or both), but I'm not sure where to really go to try to establish that. --Aka042 (talk) 17:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi,
You showed up on my watchlist again for the changes [6] you made to The Rivalry (Lehigh-Lafayette). I have reverted this edit because I strongly disagree with the categories you removed. For example, why would you remove Category:Lehigh University but keep Category:Lafayette College? The rivalry is not a football-only event and in fact extends to all sports teams at the universities and is an important part of student life (The first and second sentence of the article make this clear). It's seen to be one of the most important weeks at both universities. --Aka042 (talk) 23:20, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I actually have the same issue with the articles you've been removing from Category:University of Dayton. That category includes all 18 or so UD articles, and the ones you're removing are disassociating articles from one another. You've removed eight, leaving 10 still in the category. If anything, the subcategory Dayton Flyers is pointless because of the small number of articles in the main category. Newsboy85 (talk) 09:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That still doesn't explain this edit, which seems to remove a number of useful - and not redundant - categorizations. As for Category:Dayton Flyers, I would not consider a subcategory with three pages in it to constitute a "major college program." I would consider it to be a useless category and the perfect example of the overcategorization you seem to be trying to fight. This isn't Texas or OSU. I'm going to remove the page Category:Dayton Flyers altogether and move Category:Dayton Flyers basketball and Category:Dayton Flyers football to the root Category:University of Dayton, then restore the UD category to the pages you removed it from. This seems to be a happy medium of killing a category and maintaining the integrity of Category:University of Dayton. Newsboy85 (talk) 18:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
All of those you mentioned fall under athletics, Dayton is a D-I program. Even other mid-majors have their own athletics categories.--Levineps (talk) 18:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Then that's a useless way of doing it. We do not need a separate category for three pages. It makes the system overly complex and confusing for users. I don't really care if that's how it is done for other schools. At this point, it is not a useful division for the UD pages. Newsboy85 (talk) 18:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think were just going to have to agree to disagree, obviously i'm guessing your a UD alum or you have special connection to the school.--Levineps (talk) 19:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately your idea of agree to disagree seems to be do it your way and forget about it. I'm offering a compromise here to remove a category and keep the existing continuity. And none of this addresses why you made this edit. Newsboy85 (talk) 20:06, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see how that would yield anything useful other than wasting everyone's time. I just don't understand why you view tiny subcategories as preferable to a single category that already contains a relatively small number of pages. There's a place for parallel structure, but not when it leads to overly complex systems. Adding more categories just turns the category system into spaghetti. If your goal is to simplify the category system, this seems to be a counterproductive way of doing it. That's why I don't understand your objection to just killing Category:Dayton Flyers altogether. Newsboy85 (talk) 20:56, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Levineps, I've expressed some concerns in the past regarding some of the categories you've created, as have others. (I still have a concern about the extreme underpopulation of Category:American black and white films when compared to Category:Black and white films, but never mind.) Now I'm starting to receive complaints from other editors asking me to do something about the problem. You ask that we be democratic, but it seems when you receive multiple complaints, that's pretty much what we're doing. There seems to be developing a broad consensus that some of your category creations are inappropriate at this point. I know you think this is "cherry picking", but unfortunately if a category is a problem, it's a problem, regardless of how many other categories you have created. I suggest that maybe you could focus on something else other than category creation for a bit. When you get multiple users saying the same kind of things—that you're creating categories that are too finely distinguished—I think that's a pretty good sign that something needs to change. If you're not responsive to our requests, we really have no option but to either ignore our concerns or take the concerns to a higher level, which probably no one really wants to do. Good Ol’factory(talk)21:17, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think some people are just overly sensitive to their categories, others are not familiar with overcatergorization, or the greater good (with regards to college sports programs, teams seasons, etc). Nonetheless, I've taken these suggestions to heart and have tried to improve. Just because your "complaining" does not mean your "right."--Levineps (talk) 21:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Of course there are differing opinions on every matter that arises, but on Wikipedia we are all governed by consensus. You can't just shrug off what others consistently tell you because you happen to disagree. Right now I see a consensus of concern about your category creation. Good Ol’factory(talk)21:25, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that you're trying to be helpful, Levineps, and I agree that having any single page in both a root category and an associated subcategory is probably redundant. But when there are less than 20 articles in the root category, I feel the better course of action is to eliminate the subcategory rather than separate a small group of articles into two even smaller group of articles. It makes it confusing from both a user's point of view and from an organizational point of view. Newsboy85 (talk) 21:53, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think our main disagreement is that Newsboy wants to keep as much of the Dayton category intact as possible, while I am trying to get all the sports articles together like similar college sports articles are sectioned by team.--Levineps (talk) 21:59, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And if there were as many articles in Category:University of Dayton as there are in Category:University of Southern California, I would agree with you. But, in my opinion, the UD section of Wikipedia is just not extensive enough to warrant this. Newsboy85 (talk) 22:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I see where your coming from, I also think you will eventually get more of U of D articles when they win as many championships as USC--Levineps (talk) 22:06, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
And that would be an excellent time to create Category:Dayton Flyers. But as it stands now, I see it as overly complicated. Don't ask me where the tipping point is to create more subcategories, but USC is at 90 in the root, and they seem to be doing OK. Like I said before, there is a place for parallel structure, but not at the expense of ease of use. I don't see parallel structure as the most important consideration. Newsboy85 (talk) 22:12, 14 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to go ahead and put the UD category back on the articles. I'll also clean up the subcategories system for the UD articles. Thanks for your contribution, as it did point out to me that some cleanup was necessary, but it's just too early to be subdividing in this way. Newsboy85 (talk) 17:41, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can you let me know what you're intention is, with respect to these recent discussions? Do you just disagree with us that there is a problem at all? I ask because you are still creating similar categories. Good Ol’factory(talk)03:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just interested in what you think we should do from here—I do want to give you a chance to acknowledge that there is a problem/dispute so it can be worked through with the various editors. (I don't think you should just ignore the concerns or pretend that you are right and that other editors are wrong, which is what you suggested above.) Good Ol’factory(talk)03:22, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not trying to sugarcoat anything, I will work only to create categories when necessary. But I do read all these comments and I hope I become a better person from it.--Levineps (talk) 03:25, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
So ... I'm not clear on what that means in practical terms as to where we go from here. Are you interested in discussing the broader issues with some concerned editors? Good Ol’factory(talk)03:33, 15 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the comments above. Your removal of the category "Environment" from "Environmental Social Science" template does not make sense, nor do you give any reason for it. Discuss on the talk page for that entry... DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 22:33, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe not a bad idea to group these together by term, but I think a better name would be Category:Lists of 2005 term opinions of the Supreme Court of the United States by justice. A little wordy, but if you don't specify that it's by term, which is how the lists are organized, it implies that it's by calendar year. And these categories are just for lists, which should always be spelled out in the category name. With your consent (as the category's only author), I'll rename it myself and we should make sure all such future categories follow the same naming pattern. postdlf (talk) 22:26, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I see you created another category for 2007 named the same way as the 2005 one; I'd appreciate it if you'd respond to my comments and take them under advisement. Thoughts? postdlf (talk) 17:44, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think this should be added to the "natural disasters" category. As is indicated in the article, the fire was accidently started by humans. Beeblebrox (talk) 17:21, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please do me a favor and don't create any more of these. I know you're trying to be helpful, but dividing this category by year really hinders navigation, and well-organized chronological lists of opinions exist if people want to go that route. I've tried twice to talk to you about other SCOTUS categories you've created and got no response, so I'm just going to go ahead and list this at CFD. I trust there will be no further such categories, at least not until we've had a discussion, preferably at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Supreme Court cases. postdlf (talk) 09:48, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think breaking it up by year makes it easier to understand the chronology of the decisions. Sorry for not getting back to you earlier--Levineps (talk) 13:22, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Don't make any more until the CFD for these has run its course. Others may or may not agree with you, so we'll see how the discussion turns out. postdlf (talk) 02:37, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Quite. As I consider voting on the question of a community ban against you, can you tell me if you are trying to serve some other purpose than simply breaking large categories into snack-size bites? Are you trying to make some statement about the diaspora, for example? There may be some better way to source and state what you feel these edits mean. Or is this simply an unspecific obsession to reshuffle categories project-wide despite what anybody says about it? Because the evidence presented at the ANI — I'd note the gardener/farmer thing — suggests the latter. I wasn't kidding when I said "Help me understand." But they're not kidding when they say there has to be some rhyme or reason with the way an encyclopedia is laid out. Do you have a reason for all of these changes — and are you willing to articulate that to your editorial colleagues here — or is this pretty much just a you're gonna do whatever you want for no big reason until someone takes you down kind of thing? Either everybody in that thread is not getting something about you they ought to be getting, or you fail to get a great deal about how this works here. The discussions we've been trying to have with you could help that misunderstanding, if you would participate in them. As it's going, you're starting to look like a vandal here. If you don't like that, you could change it. Abrazame (talk) 10:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please be careful about edits like this. You not only removed the article from any connection to Category:American journalists except through the state specific category, but you also tied her journalism career to the wrong state. No one would look for a New York Times writer in "California journalists," nor do any of the periodicals mentioned in the article appear to be tied to California, or any state for that matter.
Other occupation by state categories use the form "[occupation] from [state]", to emphasize that it's the individual's background that is being categorized, not where the occupation was conducted. What were you trying to do here?
Another observation: this edit was careless. Yes, Coulter is a political columnist, but she does not exclusively write columns as a political writer, nor do most political writers, who also write political books. You've created and applied Category:American political columnists without apparent understanding or regard for actual article content. I'm going to list it for upmerging at CFD. Incidentally, you also removed a completely unrelated category from this article when you added yours.
I know you're trying to be helpful, but your category edits just seem hastily made and not well thought out in terms of the larger structure and particular needs of each article. Making categories more and more specific is not always a good thing. If done improperly, it just creates a mess for other people to clean up. Perhaps you should take a breath and discuss any new categories you want to create, with the people who actually work on the articles that would be affected? postdlf (talk) 06:12, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Levineps, that reply to Postdlf is both gratuitously offensive to Texans and an unhelpfully flippant response to an editor who has tried in good faith to discuss with you some concerns about your editing, and has done so with great civility.
There are currently several simultaneous discussions at WP:CFD relating to categories created by you, and it seems likely so far that most of them will be deleted. There have been also been several other discussions on this talk page, where other editors have expressed concern both about your creation of categories and about the way in which you populate categories.
I too want to believe that you are trying to be helpful, but the nature of your responses so far strains at my ability to sustain the assumption of good faith. Several editors are now expressing concern about your categorisation work, both because they believe it to be mistaken and because reverting inappropriate categorisation is a time-consuming process.
It should be clear to you at this stage there is at best a question-mark over whether your categorisations have consensus support, and possibly an emerging consensus that they do not. You have been asked very politely to refrain from further categorisation of articles or creation of categories while further discussions take place, and I want to ask you again to please do that — in your interest as well as in everyone else's.
It quite often happens on wikipedia that an editor is pursuing an approach which is contested, and that's when we stop and discuss further to try to build consensus. That's very much what I would like to see happen here, because consensus is fundamental to how wikipedia operates.
Please please please please please please please do this. Stop and discuss, and I'm sure we'll all find an amicable solution.
But if you continue to create categories which go straight to CFD, and categorise articles in a way which is widely contested, then you will be heading down a path where editors will describe your editing as disruptive and/or tendentious. That route can eventually lead to block and bans, and I really don't want to see that happening to you.
I see that you were busy editing after I posted my comment above, and I am disappointed that you didn't reply, but hopefully you will respond next time you are online.
I just wanted to say that since I posted, I have been reading more of the earlier discussions on this talk page, and I realise that the situation is more advanced than I had thought, because it seems that the problems I am spotting now have been raised with you by other editors over several weeks. One of them has suggested that it is already time to open an RFC/U on your editing, which as you may be aware could be a preliminary step to imposing restrictions.
As far as I can see, all your edits since I posted above have involved categories ... and given the concerns that now exist, I really think it is very unwise of you to do that. Please reconsider my request for a moratorium.
Another point: whatever form of editing you are doing, it's very important to use edit summaries, so that other editors can see what was done without having to open the diff. However, I can see no edit summaries any any of your recent edits, except those generated automatically by the software, and when your editing is under scrutiny that's something which makes life difficult for other editors ... which is not good news for you, because at this point in the proceedings, it's unwise to alienate people. To avoid accidentally leaving edit summaries blank, you can select "Prompt me when entering a blank edit summary" on the Editing tab of your user preferences — that way you will get a reminder if you try saving a page without an edit summary.
Levineps, would you please stop your category edits? I imagine you are acting in good faith, and believe you are doing the right thing, but clearly from the various discussions on this talk page the consensus is that you should stop.
In some cases you have created inappropriate categories. In other cases you have applied inappropriate categories created by someone else, which is equally inappropriate to the creation of the inappropriate category.
Just because a category exists doesn't mean it is appropriate to use it, especially if application of the category is not substantiated by a cited reference from a reliable source. For example, in the article Lou Adler, you recently replaced "Category:American Jews" with "Category:American Sephardic Jews". Similarly, in the same article, you replaced "Category:Mexican Americans" with "Category:Mexican American Jews". Although there is an uncited mention in the article that Adler is of Jewish heritage, there is no citation substantiating that Adler is a Jew, let alone a Sephardic Jew.
Please read the WP guideline Overcategorization. In particular, read Non-notable intersections by ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation. This WP guideline states, "Dedicated group-subject subcategories...should only be created where that combination is itself recognized as a distinct and unique cultural topic in its own right...Likewise, people should only be categorized by ethnicity or religion if this has significant bearing on their career."
According to WP:BLPCAT, "Categories regarding religious beliefs...should not be used unless two criteria are met:
1. The subject publicly self-identifies with the belief...in question;
2. The subject's beliefs...are relevant to the subject's notable activities or public life, according to reliable published sources.
The Adler article fails to meet these criteria.
Is the combination of "Mexican-American" and "Jewish" recognized as a distinct and unique cultural topic in its own right? No. What's next, Mexican American Jewish Bisexuals?
Is there a cited reference stating that Adler publicly self-identifies as being Jewish? No.
Are Adler's religious beliefs relevant to his notable activities or public life, according to reliable published sources? No.
The Adler article is just one example; I have seen you make similar uncited category edits and apply inappropriately created categories to other articles I watch.
I and many others (who have added remarks to this talk page) strongly believe you should stop your categorization edits, and we have provided convincing arguments to substantiate our position. If you feel you are justified in continuing, would you please reply with a substantive discussion on the constructive benefits of your categorization edits, and how they can be justified given the points I and others have made on this page? If you continue without providing such a justification that is successful in altering the current consensus, I recommend that you be banned; but I hope you take these remarks to heart and that it does not come to that. Good luck, hulmem (talk) 04:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You do need to stop and address the concerns set out above rather than continuing with more edits to category space. Seriously. When you don't respond and just carry on, it looks like you are ignoring the concerns of others. Good Ol’factory(talk)05:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
In the last hour, you have removed a long list of categories from one or more of their parent categories, and those I have checked so far look bizarre, e.g.
Not all geography is a branch of the social sciences. Just read the article on geography.
But, seriously: ENOUGH.
In the last few days, at last five different editors have asked you stop editing categories and recategorising articles, but you have either failed to reply or replied flippantly. Since you have continued to edit [8] after having replied to this warning, I will now ask for you to be blocked. --BrownHairedGirl(talk) • (contribs) 06:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's a bad example to use since im right about that one too- jurist is a subcat of American people by occupation. I think you need to atleast admit your wrong on these.--Levineps (talk) 06:25, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Too late for agument -- i am now just rolling back all your edits. But go read jurist: "Within the legal community usage of "jurist" is usually restricted to eminent judges or academics. Apart from this people working in law are usually described as "lawyers" or solicitors if they are practicing law, or as belonging to a more specific branch of the legal profession, such as barrister or advocate, judge or law professor. Less qualified professionals may be referred to as paralegals or legal executives."
It took me awhile to realize what was happening, but several articles I watch have recently suffered from Levineps (and it's hard to call it anything but vandalism at this point, judging by the above). Are these going to be rolled back or do I need to check everything and manually remove his category edits? --CAVincent (talk) 06:43, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
All I was doing was reverting what BrownHairedGirl did to my edits as she admitted, she vandalized my articles(see above and her talk page as well)--Levineps (talk) 06:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You seem really determined to exhaust any patience the community has left with you. These complaints and notices will remain here while the AN/I is pending, as evidence of attempts to resolve disputes with you, and your responses to them, are obviously central to the issue of your conduct. Discuss it further at the link above if you have anything constructive to add, but the history is quite clear. postdlf (talk) 07:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a reason why you are continuing to edit catagories without discussing the changes? Right now you need to stop immediately while we try and sort out this mess. If you continue I shall remove your editing priviledges. SpartazHumbug!07:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now that your eyes are on this (I'm going to bed), I've unprotected this talk page so Levineps can respond. Please be sure to watch his contribution history too. Thanks, postdlf (talk) 07:41, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think this divides up the expansive American Jews category and being an athiest is related to religion so it's not just a random category.--Levineps (talk) 15:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I think that this category will grow as the WNBA becomes more popular. All major professional sports teams should have an executive page.--Levineps (talk) 15:28, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Levineps, consider this your last warning. Please discontinue making category edits, including adding articles to existing categories. The discussion at ANI is clearly coming down to a consensus on a community ban. Until then, please stop these sort of edits as you've already been instructed. If you are editing categories past 15:40 (UTC); for that reason, I hope you will at least acknowledge this message. tedder (talk) 15:30, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think I am doing anything wrong, nonetheless, I will try to refrain from making comments that could be perceived in a certain way.--Levineps (talk) 00:41, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, Jews by state, see, we all got that much. People trying to help you aren't going to go searching your edit history to try and dig up some rare cogent remark that you don't have the time or powers of recall to repeat or link for them. The whole point of discussion is to show others your editorial thoughts, not simply to claim having had one. For the record, I did not participate in the ANI discussion/vote on your ban. Abrazame (talk) 16:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Levineps(talk·contribs·deleted contribs·logs·filter log·block user·block log) is indefinitely banned from creating new categories, and re-categorizing either existing categories or articles. Levineps is required to not mark his edits as minor, as he has used this flag disruptively. He is also required to use manually written edit summaries for all of his edits, outside of the talk space. He is not allowed to remove warnings or notices from his talk page, or anywhere else they are posted. A 1RR per day restriction is also imposed, due to his disruptive reverting. If he fails to comply with these requirements, he will be blocked indefinitely and his edits can be reverted without question. Levineps is reminded that he free to propose any category changes on any talk page for others to implement. He is also reminded that he can appeal this sanction only via a formal community proposal, or by emailing ArbCom.
As per the suggestion at ANI, I'm happy to put together a transcluded box that lists the specific terms and link it to your userpage in an accessible, but non-overbearing way. See this as an example. We have found previously this is the best way to ensure everyone is on the same page with regards to what is, and what is not, under restriction. Do you have objections to this, Levineps? Rockpocket21:14, 1 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can imagine. I have created a collapsed box, at User:Levineps/terms. If this is acceptable to both you and Coffee, I'll transclude it to your user page for the duration these sanctions are imposed. You will note I explicitly listed two "permissions", that Coffee did not identify. Those are:
Permitting the routine archiving of talk pages. This permits you to keep your page a reasonable length without being penalized for "removing" old warnings.
Permitting you more that 1RR on your own talk and user space (pursuant to the restrictions on removing warnings/notices). This permits you reasonable control of your own space, and permits you to remove vandalism (but not good faith warnings or notices).
Per Coffee's thumbs up, I've gone ahead and added this. If there is any disputes or queries about interpreting these sanctions, I'd be happy to offer an uninvolved, third party opinion. Just drop me a message on the talk page. Otherwise, good luck, Levineps, I hope in time you are able to sort these issues out and have the sanctions removed. Rockpocket04:10, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
However, why did you remove the See also section? There were numerous useful links in there not referenced in the rest of the article, so I’ve restored it. I understand that some editors prefer for See also sections to be integrated into the text (and the See also section was certainly long), while others believe there is value for a separate See also section, but if a link is not integrated into the text, it should certainly not be removed.
This is how I understand procedure – perhaps you could explain your thinking?
See also is almost always redudant, it's like if it so important why isn't it somewhere in the article. I see your point and ill look through it later and remove only whats not already there.--Levineps (talk) 05:19, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see your point, I just think you have to be consistent one way or another with including the states in those type of articles. I appreciate you seeing my point.--Levineps (talk) 03:43, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Heh, I came here to state the same thing but you beat me to it. I noticed there was no discussion before the move either. --JaGatalk11:35, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My removal of this category from Galaxy Quest was not an attempt to anticipate the result of the CfD: I just couldn't see where time travel fit in. Now I remember: the Omega 13! Time travel for all of 13 seconds. Oh well, fair enough. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:06, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Levineps, I really think you should be seeking consensus before doing all these musical disambig moves. Movie award or not, when I think of Guys and Dolls, I think of the musical, and I'd say that's true of most people - meaning that Guys and Dolls should be a primary topic. Now, I'm no musical expert, so I'm dropping a note at the Musical WikiProject about this. Please, these are big moves; seek consensus first! --JaGatalk12:01, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. There is a discussion about this at WP:MUSICALS, and the consensus seems to be that the musicals should remain the primary topic, if the musical was produced first, and the film was an adaptation of the musical. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:34, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think consistency in these names is that important, although I agree that it would be better for musicals to be treated as the primary topic where the musical came first. My advice: Don't worry so much about changing article names, categories or other organizational work. Get involved in research and good writing and build the encyclopedia. It's much more fun than trying to force people to use a particular name or category. It also keeps one out of trouble. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:24, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I understand you feel strongly about stuff, but ... I question whether it is necessary for you to use f*** words in edit summaries or otherwise. It does you no credit and will not benefit you. Kittybrewster ☎20:35, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Per the discussion at ANI, the consensus shows that you are now banned from page moves as well. I was the ONLY dissenter in the discussion. I have edited the info box that shows your sanctions to reflect the new consensus. I would suggest that you engage in an area that needs help with consensus building. Try checking out WP:RFC. There are many RFC noticeboards where people are begging for uninvolved eyes to give their opinions. Try checking out the New Page Patrol. They always have a crazy back log that you could really help with. It is a great way to get involved in the project.
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Hi Levineps,
Got myself in a little bit of a muddle here. I think of sorted things out. Or not. Either way, apologies for the bother!
--Shirt58 (talk) 13:21, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Of course the block was bullshit, besides being in violation of my "ban," my edits were not disruptive in any way. Some people on here, really need to grow up.--Levineps (talk) 20:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you think the block is bullshit, request an unblock. I agree someone needs to grow up. That person is you. The community has said time and time again that we are not comfortable with you moving pages or creating categories. You think your actions are fine, no one else does. If you cannot find it in you to have the maturity to respect the community's wishes, perhaps it is time for you to find another outlet for your online activities. AniMate20:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have to wonder, does Levine not have the vaguest clue what "ban" means? Here's what it means: It means NO. I'm on an interaction ban with another user. It doesn't mean I can interact if I think it's harmless. IT MEANS NO. A violation will result in a block, another violation will result in a longer block. Much more than that would be an indefinite block, which is not good at all. NO MEANS NO. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When the two week block expires you will be able to suggest category creations. But you will not be allowed to create them yourself. Kittybrewster ☎22:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree with the removal of the season articles; that said, there's no need for a separate section, so I'll move them to the See also section.--SPhilbrickT23:02, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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What's up with splitting off this section? Especially without any discussion first? I disagree that it makes the article too long. This has statistics and information vital to the comprehensiveness of article, which is necessary to maintain it at Featured Article status. The length of the article and of this section were never brought up in the various peer reviews, in GAN, or FAC. What gives? I see the editors of the UCF reacted by reverting this same sort of splitting without discussion earlier today, and unless you provide a measured explanation for this action, that's exactly what I'll do as well.-- Patrick, oѺ∞17:09, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Article is too big, there are other student life articles, doesn't pertain directly to education and there is already a history article--Levineps (talk) 01:17, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Levi. I'm gonna strongly suggest you stop editing categories until a resolution is reached at ANI. You're already in violation of your topic ban, and now that you've responded to the notification at ANI and continued editing categories, you're only making things worse for yourself. Ishdarian17:39, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Ok will do. Again, I didn't realize I was still banned. It had been two years, and I just assumed it was over. I'd like to apply fo reinstatement.--Levineps (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. LizRead!Talk!01:25, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. LizRead!Talk!01:26, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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