User talk:Crissov
General templates
[edit]Hi there! First of all, I wanted to thank you for the great job you did on {{frac}}—it was a relief to find out that I did not need to write something like that myself :) The template is now called by {{dec to frac}}, which, in turn, will be called by a number of conversion templates (currently only {{m to ft in}} relies on it).
I do, however, have a question. I was thinking of improving the template so it would return Unicode fractions when it's possible, but I see that you have already tried it and chose not to implement them. I am curious what went wrong.
Again, thanks for the great template! Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:03, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
- I don’t remember why exactly I finally decided not to implement them, but I think it was the inconsistent looks, lesser searchability and poor font support. Christoph Päper 22:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, Christoph; I suspected it'd be something along those lines. Anyway, I hope you won't mind if I try re-introducing this feature as optional (with current output still being the default)? Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 12:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
- Sure. — Christoph Päper 13:59, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, Christoph; I suspected it'd be something along those lines. Anyway, I hope you won't mind if I try re-introducing this feature as optional (with current output still being the default)? Best,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 12:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
TOC template
[edit]I added a different approach to the TOC template we've been playing with. What do you think? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:44, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
- Your approach makes a lot of sense, indeed. It’s also more versatile. — Christoph Päper 22:14, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
Linguistics, scripts, writing systems, typography
[edit]Hello, I don't exactly understand your concern with the Tables (not systems!) A and B. The ISO 9 is adopted in East Europe in a form of verbatim translation as a state standard GOST 7.79 (targeted, primarily, for bibliographical use, just as the GOST 7 series itself). And it's the Table B that actually gets used because the Table A proved too hard to memorize and to use. And no, I can't provide any refs on that right now, unless you count as such that one has quite a hard time trying to find the Table A layout in the copies of GOST 7.79 scattered everywhere. Yury Tarasievich (talk) 21:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- I thought I read the standard (ISO, not GOST) once. If I did I would remember seeing two transliteration tables, of which one is not reversible. Perhaps I haven’t read ISO 9 in its officially published form at all. I can’t check the the local library before Monday (and its standard collection has gaps).
- Does B really use i` and the like, not ì? Christoph Päper (talk) 11:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- I don't remember nothing of the sort in the Table B. I guess you're thinking about "è" (or in fact "e`") for "э". And GOST is translated copy of ISO. Table A is reversible but hellishly hard to use, in fact, impossible. Table B is specific for each language an not reversible, but much more reasonable in use, as there're only two diacritical signs, non-combined, "`" and "'". But I'd have to check all this and not write off the memory, really. Yury Tarasievich (talk) 23:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
— Christoph Päper 12:58, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
IPAr
[edit]{{IPAr}} currently has over 25k transclusions, which is more than AWB can handle, so it won't be possible to maintain Japanese articles that use it. You might want to think about a dedicated Japanese template, analogous to {{IPAc-hu}} for Hungarian. (Also, if enough languages are added, it might be possible that the template will exceed the capacity of the server.) kwami (talk) 09:10, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Font & "clip font"
[edit]Thanks for getting rid of "clip font" there. On the one hand, I am familiar with clip fonts and understood where the contribution was going (although it certainly needed some grammar and wording work, and the writer confused "font" and "glyph" which I've never seen done before). But it sure as heck didn't belong in the introduction to the article, and probably not in the article at all. It should probably be its own entry and have a link from "font." Thomas Phinney (talk) 21:44, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, it actually makes sense with glyph. Although I hadn’t heard it called clip font yet, I know what the author was getting at, but it was really hard to understand even for someone who knows what was meant. I agree that a separate article is the way to go. — Christoph Päper 20:51, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
- After the text reappeared I moved it to a new article: clip font. It’s probably the worst one I’ve ever created. Hopefully you or someone else can make it “keepable”. — Christoph Päper 09:11, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Facts however unpalatable may be, must be mentioned here so that no wrong details are given. I see the editor (Crissov) is insisting for the international concepts but I must tell him that in India these international standards are not valued as they are in other places. I feel Wikipedia is a data bank, and so all true things must be recorded for the information of the readers. Any deleting of my sentences may please the editors but it is like misinforming the readers. I am only recording facts as they are, may be hack or whatever, they are facts. Pathare Prabhu (talk) 12:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
- You haven't addressed the problems I raised in my post above. If you can rewrite it so as to be accurate, and integrate it into the body of the article (not the introduction), perhaps it would stick. Of course, there are dozens of other concepts of equal relevance to the topic that are not yet present in the article. Thomas Phinney (talk) 07:35, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
Katakana table
[edit]I like what you did adding the "Inventory" section. Will you be doing the same for Hiragana? Joeinwap (talk) 01:42, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
于
[edit]于 is not a katakana figure. It is a kanji/hanzi/hanja. Just because it can be approximated with this figure does not mean it should. And you should definitely not create a link to wu (kana) because there is no wu.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:45, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Also the references you use for this are not suitable reliable references. One's a Geocities page and the other is an equally poor choice in someone else's homepage.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 06:52, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- I did not include the character nor the references, just restored them after you removed them. But you’re right insofar as we shouldn’t use similar looking characters. I got WU mixed up with archaic WE/E, new in Unicode 6. — Christoph Päper 18:20, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
- Also, the inventory section is entirely unnecessary. It duplicates the information in the larger table and does not provide any other additional or useful information that would require a summarization. In addition, it's entirely unsourced. I will start up a discussion on Talk:Katakana so it's more than just you and I arguing over it.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:57, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
Stop putting the smaller table back in the article. The larger table is not just a transcription thing. It provides all the information necessary.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:02, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
For accessibility reasons, this template should not default to using Japanese text. Just because we can use the Japanese text does not mean it is good for Wikipedia.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 20:13, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
On the English Wikipedia, we utilize the Hepburn romanization system for all purposes regarding the transliteration of the Japanese language into the Latin alphabet. As such, your moves of Fu (kana), Chi (kana), Shi (kana), and your cut-paste move of Tsu (kana) have no consensus whatsoever. The fact that you have unilaterally performed these moves and done so against the general consensus of both WP:JAPAN and WP:MOS-JA is the last straw. Do not utilize the Kunrei-shiki system ever again. I don't care if "Hu", "Ti", "Si", and "Tu" are systematic names. That is not what modern linguists use.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 19:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- Are you a linguist, modern or not? I, kind of, am. Last time I checked, the guidelines were intended for manga/anime, martial arts, etc.pp., not for linguistics (and were probably written by people who care about that cultural stuff).
- This, however, is not about transliteration! Describing scripts (even writing systems) is not an area where linguists use romanizations. They use character designations, names or whatever you want to call them, since phonemics are hardly relevant, especially in a diachronic and translingual view. For kana this means Hepburn transcriptions are inappropriate, not least because of We, Wi and Wo. — Christoph Päper 22:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
- The guidelines are for everthing Japanese. The English Wikipedia uses Fu, Chi, Shi, and Tsu and using Hu, Ti, Si, and Tu is against consensus.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:48, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
- Kana is not Japanese! The script evolved in Japan for the Japanese language and is almost exclusively used for it, but, still, when we’re dealing with a script and not a writing system, language (and therefore any language-dependent transcription) is completely irrelevant. — ChristophPäper 10:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
- The guidelines are for everthing Japanese. The English Wikipedia uses Fu, Chi, Shi, and Tsu and using Hu, Ti, Si, and Tu is against consensus.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 18:48, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Crissov, I've proposed a compromise at Talk:ISO 9#Comma below, Cedilla or Ogonek. --Moyogo/ (talk) 16:33, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
Katakana table
[edit]I see that you have put back the absurdly over-complicated changes to this table that I removed a while ago. When I get time I am going to revert that again. Please will you STOP putting it back. Your changes are totally unnecessary, making maintenance much more difficult for no purpose at all, and do not even seem to work properly. Please do NOT put these changes back again once I have taken them out. Unfortunately you have made a lot more work now because I need to check for other unrelated things that may have been changed and need to be retained, so it is not just a simple revert. 86.160.86.68 (talk) 01:25, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
- Template:Katakana table is designed in a way that it can be used in different articles, i.e. Katakana and Transcription into Japanese currently. The article context results in slightly different needs, e.g. some distinction by background colors may not be helpful in one article but the other. Therefore background colors are customizable, among other things. Please do not mess with that without a good reason. It’s okay if the template is a little harder to maintain if that results in the articles being easier to maintain. — Christoph Päper 19:14, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi, regarding your recent changes to the above, please see section "New parameters" at Template talk:Katakana table. 86.179.112.252 (talk) 20:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
Color, image, video, resolutions
[edit]subscripts
[edit]I'm doing my best to revert all your subscripts, after verifying again that I can't find any such in books wherever YPbPr and YDbDr are mentioned, just like YCbBr. Dicklyon (talk) 18:51, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
It's really a bad idea, against normal wikiquette, to make wholesale changes in the face of opposition, without seeking a consensus. If you did start a discuss where you thought you got consensus, you didn't tell me about it, and since I'm in opposition, I would need to know about that. Please don't do this again. Dicklyon (talk) 21:11, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- After you disregarded Rec. 601 I didn’t bother seeking consensus with you any more. No one else opposed the edits, AFAICS. — Christoph Päper 23:21, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
- Since that document doesn't use any name related to YCbCr, you can't really rely on it to rename that space. If you'd like to just copy their variable names I would not object. Dicklyon (talk) 05:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, you reverted those as well. — Christoph Päper 10:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, I took the lazy way and reverted instead of trying to repair everything to the way you might want it. If you had listened and discussed and sought consensus we would not have been in that situation. Dicklyon (talk) 15:19, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, you reverted those as well. — Christoph Päper 10:10, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Since that document doesn't use any name related to YCbCr, you can't really rely on it to rename that space. If you'd like to just copy their variable names I would not object. Dicklyon (talk) 05:15, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
H.264/MPEG-4 AVC
[edit]You added the Fully supported profiles table in section 9. However, for the Main profile specifically, it's not clear whether "Yes/No" implies that it's supported for "Encoder/Decoder", "Decoder/Encoder" or something else. Could you clarify? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsylvest (talk • contribs) 15:23, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- You could probably translate “Yes/No” to “partially” or “almost” or “depends” here. The reason for the entries is interlaced coding which those products only support using MBAFF according to the table above (and I didn’t know whether that qualifies them for a “Yes”). — Christoph Päper 21:43, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
Resolutions Image
[edit]First, thanks for updating this! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vector_Video_Standards2.svg) The latest you added created a black background which makes it difficult to see the lines (it's not black when at full size). Would you mind editing it to the white background? Thanks. cipher_nemo (talk) 15:42, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
- As you’ve noticed the background is correct (in “full size”, i.e. when your browser and not the WP software renders the SVG image). I tried to work around the bugs, but I’ve given up, hoping someone else would do it. It shouldn’t be that hard, if one knows what exactly the renderer does not support (correctly or at all). You may revert it, of course, for now. — Christoph Päper 13:55, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
- Ditto. I've reverted for now. Sorry I can't help bugfix it either :( -- Quiddity (talk) 17:15, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
X11 color names table
[edit]I left some comments over on the talk page with my suggestions for that table. What do you think?–jacobolus (t) 19:06, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks
[edit]Nice work on that table of features. It used to be far tougher to read than it should have been. I spent a lot of time finding a way to make thicker vertical lines work without breaking the templates; the result was more readable, but it looked weird and out of place. What you've done since makes it very pleasant to the eye indeed. Thanks for making Wikipedia look a little nicer! Chris3145 (talk) 17:38, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Display resolution#Computer monitors
[edit]Just because the default order of the table (under Display resolution#Computer monitors) isn't clear or immediately understandable, doesn't mean it has to be replaced with another one that's equally unhelpful. At any rate, I've edited the table so that it's now ordered from smallest to largest, which matches the other lists/tables of resolutions on Wikipedia. The four unlabelled (and, I suspect, non-existent) resolutions are at the bottom. I hope you can agree to that being the best default order.
On a related note, when you say you're "reinstating previous order", please make sure you don't accidentally revert other, unrelated contributions in the process. For instance, your latest revert of that table also destroyed some of my other changes (fixes to some of the abbreviations and improvements to the table headings). Indrek (talk) 18:50, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- Any presort is better than none. The other reverts, of course, were not by accident, but I considered them minor enough to not be explicitly mentioned in the edit summary. — Christoph Päper 08:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- "Any presort is better than none." Debatable.
- As for the other reverts, they were most definitely not minor and thus should have been explained. See here for more information. Indrek (talk) 00:55, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Measurement, systems of units, calendars
[edit]Table data - EN 13402
[edit]Hi Crissov,
Thank you the updates to EN 13042. You clarified a few points. However may I note that you rearranged the raw data for the tables, placing many items of data in a single line whereas previously they were arranged as a single data item per line. As a computer programmer of many years standing, may I draw to attention that doing this adds nothing to the article and makes maintenance more difficult. Martinvl (talk) 20:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- I believe the contrary, that it makes maintenance easier, because the sequences of sizes are no longer split into two separate tables at an arbitrary point. — Christoph Päper 11:40, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
English length units
[edit]![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/English_length_units_graph.png/220px-English_length_units_graph.png)
I've spotted a spelling mistake in File:English length units graph.png which you created: it should be 'nautical mile', not 'nautic mile'. Any chance you could correct this? Modest Genius talk 17:23, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
- Not today, but I will try to remember to do it soonish. If you have LaTeX you can do it yourself, since I posted the source. — Christoph Päper 08:35, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, when you get around to it, you might want to clear up the discrepancies between the feet-nautical mile and feet-yard-fathom-cable-nautical mile. Also, for consistency, I would consider re-orienting the finger/inch relationship - it's the only one where you move your arrow down in size. VIWS talk
- In English usage the geographical mile, i.e. a minute of arc, is usually termed nautical mile and most often – when not using the international definition of 1852 m exactly – is approximated to 6080 feet (1853.2 m), but sometimes it is rounded more heavily to 6000 feet (1828.8 m). The nautical mile article currently gives several synonyms for the latter one: sea mile, data mile, tactical mile and radar mile. For this reason, the diagram takes some freedom in that the two alternate paths from foot to nautic(al) mile don’t result in the same number. It may also show what a mess this “system” is.
- I thought about the connection between inch and finger, too, but found 8⁄7 too uncommon to use in the end and settled with that one upward arrow. Ideally, for the sake of that diagram at least, there had been a unit of 1⁄8 or 1⁄16 inch. I could leave it out altogether, of course, and have people figure out 63⁄6·12 themselves.
- I intend to correct the Mu in the micrometre symbol, for what it’s worth. — Christoph Päper 11:41, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Leap Week Calendar
[edit]Why rename Leap Week Calendar to Week Calendar? Victor Engel (talk) 15:53, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
- There was no week calendar article and leap week calendar seems like it could easily be reworked into one. I just forgot to do just that, and don’t have the time right now. — Christoph Päper 08:31, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- What is the need for a week calendar article? Maybe I'm missing something. Victor Engel (talk) 14:53, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- There are week calendar( proposal)s that solve the gap between 364 days and the solar year length with a leap week and others that use days outside the week cycle. I don’t think that’s enough a difference to justify two different articles, i.e. they can both be handled in week calendar. — Christoph Päper 18:34, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Can we please come to a consensus of what to do on the talk page before a wholesale change from a long stable article is made? Victor Engel (talk) 19:57, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- There are week calendar( proposal)s that solve the gap between 364 days and the solar year length with a leap week and others that use days outside the week cycle. I don’t think that’s enough a difference to justify two different articles, i.e. they can both be handled in week calendar. — Christoph Päper 18:34, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
- Such calendars have been referred to as leap week calandars on the calendar discussion list CALNDR-L and on some web pages. I have not seen any usage of the term week calendar anywhere. Try Googling 'Leap week calendar' and 'Week calendar' Karl (talk) 08:05, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
- What is the need for a week calendar article? Maybe I'm missing something. Victor Engel (talk) 14:53, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
The World Calendar
[edit]For a title change to be useful or helpful it would be to leave in place “The World Calendar” title but add “World Calendar” under it so that searches lead to “The World Calendar” page.
In addition to the COPYRIGHT VIOLATION, Crissov’s 29 December 2015 edits to The World Calendar page and history demonstrates, without prior discussion, likely vandalism and bias. The three word proper noun reflects TWC founder’s preferences so dropping THE therefore otherwise violates the Wikipedia’s goal for accuracy. The Crissov Talk Page includes discussion about Leap Week calendar that demonstrates a preference for it when compared to The World Calendar. One’s personal preference does not authorize this change made to title and history. All uses of The World Calendar within the article use the three words with proper capitalism of the three words. Changing the title does nothing to improve that or add any clarity. Instead, it disrupts.
I.E. REVERSE 29 December 2015 edits. ALI LAZURE (talk) 16:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC) ALI LAZURE
- WP:TITLEFORMAT clearly says: “Avoid definite and indefinite articles”. Prior discussion of such changes would go against WP:BOLD. I’m completely puzzled as to who you think violated whose copyright and how. — Christoph Päper 13:23, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
"...Crissov’s 29 December 2015 edits to The World Calendar page and history demonstrates..." per my 8 March 2016 post. ALI LAZURE (talk) 17:49, 10 March 2016 (UTC)ALI LAZURE
400 year cycles & template:Day
[edit]Hi,
Could you explain the introductory text of Template:Day, which has raised a question at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Days_of_the_year#.22This_day_is_more_likely_to_occur_on_a_.....22? Cheers, Sparafucil (talk) 11:11, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
Done
{{GravEngAbs}}, FPS
[edit]please discuss
[edit]Please discuss your edits to Template:GravEngAbs and Foot-pound-second system on the appropriate talk pages. Gerardw (talk) 15:58, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
- That’s what I did (or tried to) in Template talk:GravEngAbs and in the first respective edit summary for FPS. — Christoph Päper 13:37, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
DRN
[edit]Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Template:GravEngAbs". Thank you. Gerardw (talk) 12:08, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
Bug in Template:Calendar/portal
[edit]Hello Crissov, I'm writing you, because you seem to know the calendar templates. Could you please take a look over here: Portal:Germany/Anniversaries/February. Note the calendar of 'March' when it should be February, and the '<<' link not working. It seems to be a bug in Template:Calendar/portal, the line(s) with {{#time:F|{{{sub}}}}}. It looks like PHP adds the current date '29', so 'February 29' becomes March. Any clue here? Kind regards, --PiefPafPier (talk) 21:29, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
English Brewery Casks
[edit]Why remove Tun and Butt? both are relevant to the article/chart. I understand the removal of Gallon though. a 'Pin' could be added though (4.5 gallons) thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Firebuild (talk • contribs) 22:44, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
Your {{Diagram requested}} requests
[edit]I have moved your diagram requests to their talk pages. (Also, a parameter could be provided to specify the type of diagram wanted, but I did not do that.) FYI the pages: Talk:Warnier/Orr diagram and Talk:Thinking Maps. Mark Hurd (talk) 14:09, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
TemplateData is here
[edit]Hey Crissov
I'm sending you this because you've made quite a few edits to the template namespace in the past couple of months. If I've got this wrong, or if I haven't but you're not interested in my request, don't worry; this is the only notice I'm sending out on the subject :).
So, as you know (or should know - we sent out a centralnotice and several watchlist notices) we're planning to deploy the VisualEditor on Monday, 1 July, as the default editor. For those of us who prefer markup editing, fear not; we'll still be able to use the markup editor, which isn't going anywhere.
What's important here, though, is that the VisualEditor features an interactive template inspector; you click an icon on a template and it shows you the parameters, the contents of those fields, and human-readable parameter names, along with descriptions of what each parameter does. Personally, I find this pretty awesome, and from Monday it's going to be heavily used, since, as said, the VisualEditor will become the default.
The thing that generates the human-readable names and descriptions is a small JSON data structure, loaded through an extension called TemplateData. I'm reaching out to you in the hopes that you'd be willing and able to put some time into adding TemplateData to high-profile templates. It's pretty easy to understand (heck, if I can write it, anyone can) and you can find a guide here, along with a list of prominent templates, although I suspect we can all hazard a guess as to high-profile templates that would benefit from this. Hopefully you're willing to give it a try; the more TemplateData sections get added, the better the interface can be. If you run into any problems, drop a note on the Feedback page.
Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:14, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Unified table cell templates
[edit]Hi Crissov, I meant to come here to ask you what the "Unified" means in Category:Unified table cell templates. But now that I'm here, I see you deserve the following as well! — Scott • talk 20:10, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
Less busy-looking table templates
[edit]Dsimic and I have a discussion going regarding the appearance of the table-cell templates {{Dunno}}
and {{Unknown}}
. I see you've commented there before; could I pester you to weigh in? Thank you! – voidxor (talk | contrib) 01:48, 16 June 2015 (UTC)
- @Crissov: After you commented on the formatting proposals, Dsimic started a separate merge discussion. Care to !vote? You're thoughts are always appreciated. Thanks again! – voidxor 23:48, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
List of emoticons
[edit]Hi Crissov! While don't agree with part of this edit -- specifically the removal of some or all of :っ) :っC ಠ_ಠ and ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (Lenny) -- I think you're awesome for using such a precise edit summary. :o) Would you mind if I put some or all back in, in a more appropriate section (to be determined)? --Middle 8 (t • c | privacy • COI) 14:35, 29 September 2016 (UTC)
- At least the Look of Disapproval and the Lenny Face deserve to be in that article, just not in the table they were in. — Christoph Päper 05:58, 30 September 2016 (UTC)
Please do not add or change content, as you did at List of emoticons, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Otterathome (talk) 23:48, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
- Please, that article is still a mess, but Lenny Face is not the worst-sourced entry there. The article is just on my watchlist because I cleaned it up a bit several months ago. I'm certainly in favor of improving it and finding better sources (hence I just added {{better source}}) or better criteria for inclusion, but completely removing a random relevant entry, which has lemmas redirecting there, is certainly not the way to go. — Christoph Päper 11:50, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to List of emoticons. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Otterathome (talk) 13:26, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
- I did not add unsourced content. I restored the content which someone else originally added and you removed. It has a source, but you question its reliability, perhaps rightly so. I added an appropriate template, {{better source}}. You, repeatedly, did not remove the source nor replace it by a better one nor discuss it, but you just removed the whole entry, while other entries are just as badly sourced.
- Also, please refrain from bullying me by with threats of blocking. — Christoph Päper 08:55, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
- PS: Please proceed on the Reliable Sources Noticeboard. — Christoph Päper 10:09, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
GitHub vs. Github
[edit] Hello, I'm Codename Lisa. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Markdown have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think a mistake was made, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Codename Lisa (talk) 11:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- I've had a look at this issue and it's about the correct name of GitHub, which you changed to Github, which only links because of a redirect. Karl (talk) 11:45, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Help:Collapsing/Test Progress
[edit]Hi Crissov, so I wandered to your Collapse test page searching for solution to the problem of "hiding" columns. I see that you marked several column collapse test as pass but it is not working for me when testing it. I already created the code to my userscript but nothing has changed.
Im currently working on a table that needs column collapsing. Thanks TjBison (talk) 03:19, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
- I've last edited that test page 7 years ago. I suppose the code has changed since. — Christoph Päper 11:57, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
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[edit]I see that you are the principal editor of {{Colort}}
I'm working on an initiative documented here: talk:List_of_colors#Color_issues
As you are probably aware, the list of colors articles are extensive users of this template.
(and more)
I'm contemplating opening a discussion on the talk page to discuss a couple of items, but I think it makes sense to start with you first.
One thing that troubles me is that the presentation of the RGB values doesn't present the RGB values but the "normalized" values, expressed as a percentage of 255 (or 256?).
A very informal look around suggests that both conventions exist but my impression is that presentation as a value rather than the percentage is much more common.
I looked through the history of the talk page to see if this had been discussed. Very early on, the presentation used values and then at some time, several years ago, it was converted to percentages but it just seemed to happen without any discussion that I can locate. I don't know whether you were involved with template at this time, but if you could shed any light on it I would appreciate it. If it is not obvious, I intend to propose converting back to the RGB values rather than percentages. Before I do so, I'd like to know if there's some good rationale for the conversion that might persuade me not to make this proposal.
I also note that the template has the ability to have several different color space formats, e.g. Hex RGB HSL HSV.
I note that the template will allow you to fill in the RGB values and do a conversion to the other formats, or the user can enter all the values.
It is my opinion that entering all the values can lead to trouble. On multiple occasions in history I've identified an editor, typically in IP, making some changes to the values. In many cases it is pure vandalism and easily reverted, but in other cases it is a good faith effort to make an improvement, but a typical edit chnages some of the values while leaving the others unchanged. Obviously, if the only values entered were the RGB values and the others generated, then a correction to the RGB values would automatically produce the corresponding values for the other formats.
Just today I was doing some research into alabaster, found that there were some subtle changes needed to the hex and RGB values, but some of the other values seem to be way off. I'm not going to bother going to the history but I suspect that someone either did a bad conversion, or made some other mistake.
It's my opinion that the list articles ought to require that the RGB values be filled in and the others calculated. Obviously, this change could be implemented without any change to the template, but I'm hoping you have some thoughts on whether this would be a good idea.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:00, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
- I think I was the one who changed the template from using 8-bit decimal integer values for red, green and blue components to percentages. The rationale behind that change was mostly that there are (increasingly) implementations that are not restricted to 8 bits per component, floating-point percentages are just more flexible. In some cases it's also making some systematic decisions more obvious, in other cases a, say, 50% value has been defined as 127 whereas elsewhere it became 128.
- The possibility to manually override other calculated values was added for such rounding issues on the one hand and to reduce the number of calculations and hence the page load time on the other hand. — Christoph Päper 14:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
- Crissov, Thanks for the response, sorry to be so late responding. S Philbrick(Talk) 11:48, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi! You added a large table on ISO 15919. I think you copied and pasted it from somewhere. Two of the cells for Telugu script have N/A. If these sounds or letters don't exist in Telugu, they should be removed. Danielklein (talk) 01:09, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- As the edit comment says, I took it from German Wikipedia, where the two cells are still saying Nicht in Unicode (not in Unicode). I did not check whether these two Telugu characters actually exist but just not in Unicode nor whether they have been added since. — Christoph Päper 11:58, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks! I couldn't work out what "DEWP" was! I was thinking "Department of ???". The first version of the German page has several cells marked as [5] "Nicht in Unicode" (not just for Telugu, but Devanagari and Kannada as well). A later edit replaced the note link with the plain text. It looks like the five Devanagari and Kannada letters were added in a later Unicode version. I'll see if I can find out if Unicode has added the missing Telugu letters, and if they're truly missing or an editor's mistake. If they are still missing, I'll change "N/A" to "Not in Unicode" to match the German page. Danielklein (talk) 00:11, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
- I've added the two missing Telugu letters from the latest Unicode version. If you decide to update the German version of the article, be aware that I've challenged the Arabic script appearing in the second column of the table. As far as I'm aware, ISO 15919 only covers Indic scripts, not Arabic scripts used for Indic languages. Danielklein (talk) 01:15, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
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[edit]Would you please consider the problem shown at Talk:List of RAL colors#Node count exceeded and say whether you know what is going on. Johnuniq (talk) 02:56, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
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Color templates
[edit]I see that you've done a lot of the editing of {{Colort/Color}}. Per a discussion on the talk page, another editor thought it would be nice to add a source column. A lot of work to fill in, but I thought I'd take a stab at it. However, while I know how to add a column to an existing table, as you know, this table is generated by a template. I've done some very limited editing of templates, but concerned that this is outside my comfort area. I'm hoping you would be willing to help. I'm imaging that this would simply extend the table one more column, probably labeled "Source" or "Reference". The existing table has 11 columns, so the new one would have 12. It isn't clear whether this experiment will work, so I don't want to permanently modify the existing template, I'm thinking it should be a new name, to play with and see if it can work. Optionally, specify a switch, like you do with "|narrow=true", such as "|Source= true" with default = "false" that defaults to the current version, while "true" would mean to add the new source column.
The intention is to provide the external reliable source, not the link to an existing Wikipedia article.--S Philbrick(Talk) 11:30, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
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{{{alias}}}
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[edit]I noticed that back on 2015 November 18 at 02:32, you made an edit to the Paper_size page, in the North_American_paper_sizes section, that doesn't appear to be correct. (Actually, you made many edits at that time, and I only take issue with ONE of them.) You changed the reference from U.S. paper sizes to ANSI sizes, yet in the table that follows, the Canadian sizes are NOT close to the ANSI sizes...rather they ARE close to the U.S. sizes.
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