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Folklore
[edit]This should not belong in the folklore section. It's an anime, not a part of Japanese mythology.
Well, it does have some Japanese mythology into it, like in the Dark Tournament, where they face off against the "Myth-Begotten Manglers". Also, Yu Yu Hakusho deals with the Youki based off Japanese myth. I think it is fine the way it is. Rayisthechosenone 03:40, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I think to help reduce space it would be best not to restore the lyrics to it whever if it is for the English and Japanese versions and if anyone wants to reduce space then I advise that the opening and ending information be moved to its own section. But I will say this I will keep this information up and if anyone deletes it again without following my idea then I will restore it again from User 24.20.153.45 I would really like to come to fair compromise. Another option is to have a link under External links to this page: http://www.animelyrics.com/anime/yyh/
Category
[edit]I tried to add the categories 'Anime' and 'Manga' to this article, but something screwed up and almost all of the article was lost. Thankfully, someone or something reverted it almost immediately back to the last version. Can someone who knows what they're doing add these categories?
- I just added them --Auric 22:20, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
Template
[edit]I've recently created and added a YuYu Hakusho template to most of the YuYu Hakusho-related articles. If you have any questions or comments please contact me on my talk page. --TBC??? ??? ??? 01:35, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Background Confusion
[edit]In this article in the background section the Spirit Detective Saga and the Dark Tournament seasons were mixed together so I've sperated them to avoid reader confusion. I've also added the other name for Team Uratogi. I'm new so please tell me if I've done something wrong. Plus±Minus 19:56, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Trivia
[edit]Are their sources for the facts in the trivia section? I'm new to this so I don't know if they are cited and I'm just missing it. Plus±Minus 22:01, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
- I have taken out the following text because it seems to be more speculation than an actual fact based on a source if someone re adds this please list a source. Plus±Minus 02:11, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
: * Some of the scenes in Yu Yu Hakusho were partly taken in Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball Z. Like in the Yusuke vs. Younger Toguro in the Dark Tournament Saga, the scenes when Toguro uses his 100% power and the surroundings suddenly blackout resembles the scenes when Freeza uses his full powers in Planet Namek. When Toguro used his hand stabbing Kuwabara to make Yusuke angry and release his full powers resembles the scene when Cell crushed Android 16's head with his foot to make Son Gohan angry and release his full powers. The battle between Yusuke and Hiei after Hiei beat Sniper in the Chapter Black Saga resembles the battle between Son Goku and Vegeta (both in the Super Saiyan 2 state level) in the Majin Buu Saga.
: * Hiei's hairstyle and attitude are almost the same as Vegeta of Dragon Ball Z.
- The background pictures during the 4 day running scene, in episode 98, are inspired by Roger Dean Yes and Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe album covers. You can see, in this order, Yessongs, Relayer, An Evening Of Yes Music Plus, Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe and Union. Composition showing the cover art and scene
Conflicts
[edit]I think Shigure, when fought and killed by Hiei was resurrected by the machines of Mukuro. Both Hiei and Shigure were resurrected because their duel is considered a draw; that's why he have the stitches in his face during the tournament. Elyu 4:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
: * During the Three Kings Saga Shigura, the fighter who gave Hiei his Jagan eye and was later killed by him, won a battle in the Preliminary battles.
Mythology
[edit]YYH draws much of its story from traditional japanese mythology, from Yukina (an obvious yuki-onna) to Kurama (kitsune and Inari), and even parodies japanese fairytales during the Dark Tournament. There should be a section acknowledging this. BethEnd 16:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- A good point. If no one has any objections, will try to get a section dedicated to that soon. Mirshariff 09:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Character Section Clean-up
[edit]I've more or less edited the Characters section of the article, but feel free to make another pass at it, since I'm a bit tired and rather cranky at the moment. I also plan to remove all related spoilers from the general Character section; visitors with only a passing knowledge of YYH and wanting to know more about the series might not like reading the spoilers right from the start. I'll be removing all spoilers in the Characters section and moving them to their respective Character pages (and will probably start editing those as well). Also, regarding the Kurama paragraph: I'll be taking down the Kurama trivia (the one where the Filipino producers mistook him for a woman) and moving it to a Trivia section, or (more probably) relocate it to Kurama's main character page as a trivia blurb. Comment if you feel that I shouldn't. Mirshariff 09:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Dates and article order
[edit]Yuu Yuu Hakusho was a manga first, thus the manga should be mentioned first, then the anime, then the importation of it to the US, however this article is jumbled, and I can't figure ot the dates within the article space for when the manga, anime, and dub were made. Please someone who knows this clean it up and put it at the top of the article without me having to go to the info box... and if you happen to know the order in which Togashi created his manga, that would be useful on his article space too. Thanks. --Hitsuji Kinno 02:29, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
Dubai TV
[edit]Please be advised: A vandal (IP1 IP2 IP3) has made an edit to this page which has not been reverted. See here. If this fact cannot be verified independently, it's suggested that you remove it. His word alone cannot be trusted given his contribution history. –Gunslinger47 04:54, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
- I found a more trustworthy source. He says Dubai TV only carries Case Closed. I'm removing the link. –Gunslinger47 00:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Character Articles
[edit]Your list of character articles is kind of, small. Some important characters lack articles, like Sakyo and the Team Toguro. (Team Toguro should have one big article)
And some of the characters with articles aren't listed on the character box. If I have permission, can I make articles and update the character box? Artist Formerly Known As Whocares13:30 (Eastern Standard Time); 25 May, 2007
- Of course! That would be a great help - Jezebel Parks 18:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I'll start with Sakyo, who is in fact the real villian of the Dark Tournament arc, not Toguro. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 15:27 (Eastern Standard Time); 25 May, 2007.
Well, I got Sakyo down, but I wasn't logged in when I did Team Toguro, so they wouldn't accept my article, and I'd rather wait until tomorrow to write that for another two hours. Also, I can't update the character box thing. Help.
- The character box is a template, so you have to look for Template:YuYu_Hakusho. Don't forget to check the Character List located in the box also. I updated it for you. The Toguro Brothers are listed there as well. Jezebel Parks 23:48, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. I actually think the Toguro Brothers should be moved into the Team Toguro topic I'll make. If they aren't there, than the article would be rathep,...... empty.
- Okay, I just edited it some more. Team Toguro now has an article.Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 20:28 (Eastern Standard Time); 25 May, 2007.
Actually I already took care of moving the Toguro Brothers to Team Toguro, but my complaint is the previous character sections and how to remove them. -Adv193 02:11, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not really sure what you mean, you're not really telling us very well. If you mean how some characters have articles compared to others, it means they've done enough for the series to get an article. Also, I've made an article for the Black Book Club, which has enough information for an article. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 10:18 (Eastern Standard Time); 27 May, 2007
No I mean the minor characters that are currently grouped together by the sagas. Like the Spirit Detective Saga characters page. -Adv193 16:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
- Good point. It would be better if we just list them as enemies, allies, or plain old minor characters, to avoid confusion. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 21:27 (Eastern Standard Time); 27 May, 2007
One other subject matter is what to do with movie-exclusive characters, Hinageshi who is already in the Character list can be moved down to either allies or minor characters, I can also work with making bios for the other movie characters that aren't too large. -Adv193 02:48, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Just don't make articles for characters that are so short that they can be classified as stubs. If there isn't enough info, then we'll just give them a nice paragraph or two on the character index page. Jezebel Parks 10:27, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
That is what my plan is, I won't make them too large and I already know that they don't deverse their own page either. Also because of a small mistype, I actually meant the other movie characters.-Adv193 14:41, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- I know this is very late, but I've done alot of cleanup on some of the more poorly written articles, and unless there are any complaints try to make articles for Chu, Rinku, and Shishiwakamaru. User:Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 13:18 (Eastern Standard Time); 3 July, 2007
- Go ahead, as long as you have enough information to make them into legitimate articles and not stubs. Jezebel Parks 17:38, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- Well, I made one for Shishiwakamaru and Chu, but I couldn't do Rinku, as, because he rarely ever does anything more than a chapter long, his article was very stubby. Kido and Murota could have nicely sized articles, though, as I make sandbox attempts at it for Kido, and it seemed fairly sized. Murota, however, I don't know alot about, but I'd try my best to make a start for him. User:Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 19:56 (Eastern Standard Time); 11 July, 2007 (UTC)
- Go ahead, as long as you have enough information to make them into legitimate articles and not stubs. Jezebel Parks 17:38, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I've removed several of the stubby articles. I merged Sensui, too, as that article largely repeated or extended the exact same information. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 18:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
FLCs
[edit]Just noting that List of YuYu Hakusho episodes (Spirit Detective Saga), List of YuYu Hakusho episodes (Dark Tournament Saga), and List of YuYu Hakusho episodes (Chapter Black Saga) have been sitting at WP:FLC without comments past the alloted ten days. Comments would be welcome. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 08:13, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Hiei
[edit]I'm removing "Jaganshi" from his name since it's never stated in canon that he had a last name at all. Jaganshi is purely invented from fanon. Unless someone can provide a canon source from the creator, it doesn't belong here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yo kuri (talk • contribs) 09:04, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Character Name Dubbing Issues
[edit]What exactly are the dubbing issues with the Phillipine version of the characters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.88.108.41 (talk) 03:25, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
What to do...
[edit]An issue in the YuYu Hakusho articles that must be discussed now is what to do before AfD's show up. As such, I suggest we discuss what to do with all of the articles. My suggestion for characters is to merge all the ones that are clearly notable into something like List of YuYu Hakusho characters, like Sakyo, Toguro Brothers, and even the main characters. Rather than tell you every detail, we should only mention the most important details, like their co,bat style and any major moves (Spirit Gun, Black Dragon, for example). The video games, unless one is GA-status, should be merged to something like List of YuYu Hakusho video games. Merge card games to main article. Merge movies to something like List of YuYu Hakusho movies. Something must be done before AfD's come up. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
- ...Since no one has answered, I'm just going along with it. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares (talk) 22:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
Techniques
[edit]Should we create a section/page dedicated to the spiritual techniques and abilities shown throughout the series? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.242.95.91 (talk) 09:50, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
- That would be great :)Bio-capsule (talk) 09:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Inappropriate edit summary
[edit]User:Sesshomaru reverted a quite long edit by an anon but gave no edit summary explanation so I put it back in asking for some good manners to be shown to the editor concerned ... the rather predicatable response was "Rv unsourced nonsense by Abtract". Now I have no idea whether the edit concerned was a genuine desire to improve tha article or someone just having fun (either way good manners are appropriate) which is why I am posting here. Can anyone support these edits or is it nonsense as claimed? Perhaps the editor concerned would care to comment. Abtract (talk) 21:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- You asked for an edit summary, you got it. The anon's inclusion of data, as well yours, violated WP:Original research and WP:Verifiability. Abtract, any information added to Wikipedia must be supported by reliable sources, or else it can be removed. Thought you would be aware of such policies by now. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 21:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Unsourced material happens all the time ... I don't condone it but let's be realistic. I suggest you take a close look at Majin Boo Saga, an article you visit frequently, if you want to see unsourced material ... there are no third party references, just the manga itself. My objection is to the way you simply shrugged off what appeared to be a genuinely good faith edit without even the curtesy of an edit summary. I suppose it didn't occur to you to bring it here to the talk page? Your somewhat inappropriate edit summary and response (above) to me is what I have come to expect but please by kind to newcomers. Abtract (talk) 22:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- I am "kind". You could do the same by not adding WP:FANCRUFT. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Then show your kindness to newcomers. Now here is an interesting question: where is the citation/reference for the current classes section? Abtract (talk) 23:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Feel free and remove whatever sections violate policy. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldn't be so crass; there are gentler ways of achieving a better encyclopedia. :) Abtract (talk) 23:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Feel free and remove whatever sections violate policy. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Then show your kindness to newcomers. Now here is an interesting question: where is the citation/reference for the current classes section? Abtract (talk) 23:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- I am "kind". You could do the same by not adding WP:FANCRUFT. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
- Unsourced material happens all the time ... I don't condone it but let's be realistic. I suggest you take a close look at Majin Boo Saga, an article you visit frequently, if you want to see unsourced material ... there are no third party references, just the manga itself. My objection is to the way you simply shrugged off what appeared to be a genuinely good faith edit without even the curtesy of an edit summary. I suppose it didn't occur to you to bring it here to the talk page? Your somewhat inappropriate edit summary and response (above) to me is what I have come to expect but please by kind to newcomers. Abtract (talk) 22:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Fact tag
[edit]Following the discussion above, I decided to place a series of "fact" and "unreferenced" tags in the most uncited sections of this very poorly referenced article. This was reverted once on technical grounds (I put the tags at the section headers which seemed a good idea to me but apparently is "against multiple guidelines" though which ones wasn't mentioned. So I put tags in more innocuous positions, sadly this also was reverted in a manner that I can only describe as vandalism since it was by the editor who above remarked "Feel free and (sic) remove whatever sections violate policy". Sadly there has been no discussion, just a series of commands and threats on my talk page. Abtract (talk) 00:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- No one disagrees that the page needs work; that's why AnmaFinotera added the tags to the top of the article. But those tags at the top make all fact tags in the article redundant. Instead of fighting childishly over the tags, go find some sources. At the moment, you're just being disruptive, and not helping improve the page at all. Doceirias (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- And those who are removing the tags are improving the article? I put individual tags on to make it clear which sections needed work. Please remember that there were no fact tags and hardly any references on this article until I put them on. Abtract (talk) 01:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- It has been tagged for the work it needs. Your throwing in a ton of fact tags, particularly on sections that do NOT require references like the plot section, is being disruptive and simply edit warring to edit war. The article has already been tagged over all for referencing issues. There is no need to then add fact tags to every last section. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 01:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Why doesn't the plot section need a tag? Does it not need references? It may be complete garbage for all I know. Abtract (talk) 01:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- I concur with Doceirias and AnmaFinotera. Abtract, your behaviour is particularly disruptive. It is much more helpful to actually add sources other than a horde of fact tags. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- The overwhelming consensus on Wikipedia is that a plot summary does NOT need a reference. Its de facto reference is the work itself. Feel free to ask WP:RS, WP:V, etc. but the answer is always the same: no refs are needed for a plot summary of a fictional work. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 01:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yes of course silly me. Abtract (talk) 01:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
- The overwhelming consensus on Wikipedia is that a plot summary does NOT need a reference. Its de facto reference is the work itself. Feel free to ask WP:RS, WP:V, etc. but the answer is always the same: no refs are needed for a plot summary of a fictional work. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 01:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
Genres
[edit]Sesshomaru brought this article to my attention, so I'm asking other people's opinion. I know Yusuke is supposed to be a "spirit detective", but is there actual investigating going on in the manga? Enough detective work to include YuYu Hakusho in Category:Occult detective anime and manga?
Also, I think you should consider changing "Fantasy supernatural fiction" to "Bangsian fantasy". Think about it.--Nohansen (talk) 04:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hard to say now that I think about it. The majority of the series takes place during the second arc, the Dark Tournament Saga. Aside from the first arc, the only other detective-related scenes are in the Chapter Black Saga, when they investigate Shinobu Sensui and Sensui's Seven. But there is no detective-related work in the last saga. Regardless, does occult detective still apply?
- As for genres, how does this sound:
[[Martial arts (genre)|Martial arts]]; [[Bangsian fantasy]] [[supernatural fiction]]
Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:40, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Well, it starts as a spirit detective series -- then undergoes more than one genre shift. Bangsian+supernatural+marital arts does adequitely cover most of the seriess. —Quasirandom (talk) 14:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- "Supernatural fiction" is kind of excessive, in my opinion. There's no need for three genres when two will cover it. I told Prede the same thing when he added a third genre to Red Garden.--Nohansen (talk) 17:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I fail to see it as excessive. YuYu Hakusho is what you would call a "traditional ghost story", is it not? Also I don't see it as a sub-genre or anything of Bangsian fantasy, and its inclusion will guarantee Category:Supernatural anime and manga. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 18:07, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldn't call it a "traditional ghost story", but I believe that "supernatural fiction" is excessive because bangsian fantasy already deals with the supernatural (afterlife, spirits, etc).--Nohansen (talk) 19:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I see what you mean. Then how does this look:
[[Bangsian fantasy]], [[Martial arts (genre)|Martial arts]], [[Occult detective]]
- Did you want to hear more opinions first? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
- I can't say if "occult detective" applies, but the first two genres seem fine.--Nohansen (talk) 00:35, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- It's been roughly a week, think it's safe to say that occult detective is fine. Here's my newest thought:
[[Occult detective]], [[Martial arts (genre)|Martial arts]], [[Bangsian fantasy]]
- Sound good? Not sure if alphabetical order would be best. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 06:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Another rough week has passed and no comments, so let me recap: I'm not too keen on the idea of calling YuYu Hakusho an "occult detective" series and Quasirandom said "Bangsian+supernatural+marital arts (minus the supernatural) adequately covers most of the series". So, unless someone else argues for the third genre, I think it's fine as is. Also, I think BLEACH could undergo the same genre change ("Bangsian fantasy" in place of "Fantasy supernatural fiction").--Nohansen (talk) 05:33, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- Mm, I'm not really seeing occult detective with the manga; does the anime get more into that aspect of it? Supernatural does seem a little redundant to Bangsian fantasy, at a glance. Doceirias (talk) 09:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
- I still believe the manga has more detective-related scenes, though it does sort of trail away after the beginning arc doesn't it? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:47, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Guys, this is also a comedy show, and I think the genres should reflect that. So Supernatural, Martial Arts and Comedy, in order of closest association.Duelistgamer (talk) 01:04, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- There has been a greater emphases on citing reliable sources since the last discussion. So before any change/additions are made to the genre, you should first provide reliable sources to back them up. But when multiple genres are listed, they are almost always in alphabetical order. —Farix (t | c) 03:20, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
- What qualifies as a reliable source for anime? Here's Hummingbird's categorization: https://hummingbird.me/anime/yu-yu-hakusho Then there is MyAnimeList: http://myanimelist.net/anime/392/Yuu%E2%98%86Yuu%E2%98%86Hakusho Also I am currently watching this show and all the genre tags seem to match my viewing experience so it's not like the source isn't reliable. Duelistgamer (talk) 02:21, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- MAL is definitely not a reliable source because its continence is user-generated. (It also links to illegal fansub and scanlation groups, but that is an entirely different kettle of stinking fish). Hummingbird appears to be a self-published source with no track record for accuracy. And given their home page, their information is also based on user-generated content as well, which will preclude them from being considered a reliable source. —Farix (t | c) 11:23, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- Since ANN is heavily cited in the wiki page indubitably it should be considered a reliable source. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=311Duelistgamer (talk) 17:37, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- Not really. Please see: WP:ANIME/RS. Only the reviews and news portions can be used from ANN, not the encyclopedia entry. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:07, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- ANN is a case where some parts are reliable—namely the news, reviews, and featured article sections—while other parts of the site are entirely unreliable—such as the forums and encyclopedia sections. The link you provided is the the unreliable encyclopedia section. —Farix (t | c) 22:06, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- If this doesn't qualify, then nothing else does. http://www.funimation.com/shows/yu-yu-hakusho/home Duelistgamer (talk) 22:21, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- Since ANN is heavily cited in the wiki page indubitably it should be considered a reliable source. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=311Duelistgamer (talk) 17:37, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- MAL is definitely not a reliable source because its continence is user-generated. (It also links to illegal fansub and scanlation groups, but that is an entirely different kettle of stinking fish). Hummingbird appears to be a self-published source with no track record for accuracy. And given their home page, their information is also based on user-generated content as well, which will preclude them from being considered a reliable source. —Farix (t | c) 11:23, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
- What qualifies as a reliable source for anime? Here's Hummingbird's categorization: https://hummingbird.me/anime/yu-yu-hakusho Then there is MyAnimeList: http://myanimelist.net/anime/392/Yuu%E2%98%86Yuu%E2%98%86Hakusho Also I am currently watching this show and all the genre tags seem to match my viewing experience so it's not like the source isn't reliable. Duelistgamer (talk) 02:21, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
Yu Yu Hakusho
[edit]I think mentioning what does the title Yu Yu Hakusho mean in english would be great at the beginning of the Yu Yu Hakusho Article...WOULD IT? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ANIMA FAN67.182.51.230 (talk) 19:52, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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- And the article name contains two words (w/ YuYu written together) instead of three words used by the official localization managers. 91.78.150.211 (talk) 18:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Regaurding characters
[edit]Keiko, Botan, Koenma, and Yukina are placed under main characters in the yu yu Hakusho character list right! I think Keiko, Botan, Koenma, and Yukina should have their own long pages about them--like the ones made for Yusuke, Kazuma, Kurama, Hiei, and Genki. The reason is they are too main characters RIGHT?!?!. I think this change would be awesome for the Yu Yu Hakusho article. It will also give the fans of these characters a oppertunity to look and understand about their favorite characters. THIS WOULD BE A AWESOME CHANGE!!! "anyone Volenteer in doing this" Alkrizy (talk) 21:48, 5 July 2008 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Alkrizy (talk • contribs) 21:43, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Bot report : Found duplicate references !
[edit]In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :)
- "ShogakukanAward" :
- {{cite web | url=http://comics.shogakukan.co.jp/mangasho/rist.html | title=小学館漫画賞:歴代受賞者 | publisher=[[Shogakukan]] | language=Japanese | accessdate=2007-08-19}}
- {{cite web | url=http://comics.shogakukan.co.jp/mangasho/rist.html | title=小学館漫画賞:歴代受賞者 | publisher=Shogakukan | language=Japanese | accessdate=2007-08-19}}
DumZiBoT (talk) 18:25, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Anime vs Manga
[edit]It bothers me that although there are serious differences between the anime and manga, they are only mentioned under plot. There are significant differences in the characters' backgrounds when comparing the anime with the background, for example, Mukuro is not abandoned by her parents in the manga but actually genetically modified and abused by her own father. It should also be mentioned in the article that the fights in the tournament go into far less detail in the manga and some events clearly do not happen at all. An example of this is Shigure's suicide, he is seen in the latest release of the manga.--SoWhatBigDeal (talk) 22:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Reception
[edit]The thing they didn't say in the article was about all the swearing.I put in a section called Parental Concern to substitute for this.Bryceman99 (talk) 16:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
Wait,scratch that. It appears that Wikipedia has gone and deleted mt contribution. So much for that idea... Bryceman99 (talk) 00:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
Also,I put in a section called Old Rivals, New Problems, which, by the way, is a DVD for the anime. They've gone and deleted that, too.
hey guys
[edit]I was looking at the page and, it didn't mention the movie yet.--"I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight" comment added by Dragonmaster88 (talk • contribs) 03:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
drama
[edit]Can we please discuss the drama genre addition into the infobox? I mean, this series & manga is full of drama situations (more than comedic, thriller, or fantasy situations) and this should be noticed. (AMG) Source 1 ☆ (IMDB) Source 2. RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 12:50, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- IMDB is not a reliable source, and AllMovie doesn't list it in the drama genre either, but as a fantasy adventure. I also see that AllMovie is also user editable, making it unreliable as a source as well. --Farix (Talk) 14:16, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- For other reliable sources, here is the list of genres
- --Farix (Talk) 14:38, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I see. Anyway, thanks for these sources. RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 18:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Martial arts is about right. Bangsian fantasy applies here too, like it does for Bleach, right? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yep, that's correct. But there are some (genre) differences between Bleach and Yu Yu Hakusho(?), however every page about YYH only said that YYH is "action", or "adventure" but nowhere is written about "drama" or "romantic drama".. (you know, when someone dies or just appears some kind of "dramatic" moments, sad emotional keyboard nostalgic music is played on the background).. of course only in IMDB and Wiki-copyed sites. :D. Anyway I feel sorry for this speculative thread. RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 23:49, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
- Martial arts is about right. Bangsian fantasy applies here too, like it does for Bleach, right? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Drama II.
[edit]Lord Sesshomaru, are you still here? If yes.. so.. what about these sources? - 1 2? Seems "legit". RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 23:23, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- One is a poorly designed fan page and the other is a wiki. Neither of which are reliable sources. --Farix (Talk) 02:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- But on that "wiki" site no edit buttons is available. Anyway, also check this link--> [5] (YYH is under Romatic Drama category) RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 17:45, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Romatic drama? Well that's clearly false. Just because you can find some random website calling it a drama doesn't mean that the website is a reliable source. It seems that you are pretty desperate in having this series labeled as drama when it clearly isn't. --Farix (Talk) 21:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm so desperated about it. However, "case" is now closed due to lack of evidence
. RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 12:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I'm so desperated about it. However, "case" is now closed due to lack of evidence
- Why this focus on drama, anyways? Drama is a very general genre that refers to pretty much any inter-character interaction - it is almost always better to use a more specific genre descriptor than drama. 「ダイノガイ千?!」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 22:05, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- You're right, but I hear some say like "holy shit, YYH is so dramatic.. !!!!" (YouTube comments)... and I like that idea that says "YYH is dramatic" despite YYH it's just kiddie J-cartoon, you know. RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 12:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- I don't put much weight on YouTube comments. Point me to absolutely any work of fiction ever published, and I can pretty much guarantee someone, somewhere, has called it "dramatic" at least once. And, along that line, I'd be careful calling YYH a "kiddie J-cartoon", there's plenty of fans out there who would explode at you for such a statement. ;) 「ダイノガイ千?!」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Fankids will be very angry.. no I'm just all kidding ;). I just satirize the superficial common western comment on anime, you know. When I watch this anime first (when I was 13 or 14 year-old-kid.. ) this anime very surprised me (I watched the uncensored TV version) with great violence (detailed bone-fracturing, squirting blood [sometimes], cruel martial arts techniques, violence against women, etc.) and fantastic after-death life idea.. so I think it is not a "kiddie j-cartoon". In actual fact, I take it too much seriously -- that's the reason #2 why I wanna find that reference about YYH is also drama :D. That's "all". RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 22:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- I am a big fan of this anime, have been for at least 10 years now, but I have to disagree about it being "drama". Granted there are some dramatic parts, but most are generally related to the action, making it, in my view, an action/martial arts show. - Stryyder —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.37.171.52 (talk • contribs)
- Fankids will be very angry.. no I'm just all kidding ;). I just satirize the superficial common western comment on anime, you know. When I watch this anime first (when I was 13 or 14 year-old-kid.. ) this anime very surprised me (I watched the uncensored TV version) with great violence (detailed bone-fracturing, squirting blood [sometimes], cruel martial arts techniques, violence against women, etc.) and fantastic after-death life idea.. so I think it is not a "kiddie j-cartoon". In actual fact, I take it too much seriously -- that's the reason #2 why I wanna find that reference about YYH is also drama :D. That's "all". RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 22:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- I don't put much weight on YouTube comments. Point me to absolutely any work of fiction ever published, and I can pretty much guarantee someone, somewhere, has called it "dramatic" at least once. And, along that line, I'd be careful calling YYH a "kiddie J-cartoon", there's plenty of fans out there who would explode at you for such a statement. ;) 「ダイノガイ千?!」? · Talk⇒Dinoguy1000 19:34, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- You're right, but I hear some say like "holy shit, YYH is so dramatic.. !!!!" (YouTube comments)... and I like that idea that says "YYH is dramatic" despite YYH it's just kiddie J-cartoon, you know. RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 12:57, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
- Romatic drama? Well that's clearly false. Just because you can find some random website calling it a drama doesn't mean that the website is a reliable source. It seems that you are pretty desperate in having this series labeled as drama when it clearly isn't. --Farix (Talk) 21:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- But on that "wiki" site no edit buttons is available. Anyway, also check this link--> [5] (YYH is under Romatic Drama category) RockandDiscoFanCZ (talk) 17:45, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Refs
[edit]"YuYu Hakusho has been well received since its debut, with the manga selling over 44,000,000 copies in Japan alone and winning the prestigous Shogakukan Manga Award in 1994. The anime series won the Animage Anime Grand Prix prize in 1993 and 1994 and has been voted by various publications as one of the greatest anime of all time." These need refs. The awards most of all, but if there is no ref on "one of the greatest of all time" it needs to be deleted a NPOV. I will try to find some this week but help would be appreciated. StryyderG 19:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by StryyderG (talk • contribs)
- It's sourced within the Reception section. Refs are not included in the lead per guidelines. ~ Hibana 02:04, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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Successful good article nomination
[edit]I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of November 9, 2010, compares against the six good article criteria:
- 1. Well written?: Writing is of a pretty good quality throughout. Going forward past GA, I would recommend peer review to get input from previously uninvolved users, and also requesting copyediting from GOCE.
- 2. Factually accurate?: Duly cited throughout, no issues here.
- 3. Broad in coverage?: Yes, it is thorough. I like the structure and breakdown of component organization.
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Captain Tsukasa reference
[edit]Yu Yu Hakusho starts off with a Captain Tsubasa reference. It starts with the main character saving a boy from being run over after chasing a ball into the street, when the boy would have miraculously survived the impact anyway. Captain Tsukasa starts with a boy running into a street chasing a ball, being hit by a car, yet miraculously surviving thanks to the ball's softening of the impact. So in a way, YYH is an AU fic for Captain Tsubasa.
Worth mentioning in the article? 178.73.217.36 (talk) 10:37, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
- Only worth it if a reliable source mentions it. Otherwise, it's original research. ~ Hibana (talk) 15:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Bangsian fantasy genre revisited
[edit]I was looking through the Bangsian Fantasy genre again, and have to question how this series fits in there. Other than that there is a Yama (Lord of Death in Hinduism, Buddhism and Chinese Mythology) character, there are no references to historical figures or literary characters that are interacting in the afterlife with the main characters. Use of Yama is about as notable as putting any old Grim Reaper figure. It is also in the unsourced section of that article, so I propose it be removed until reviewers and literary experts classify it as such. -AngusWOOF (talk) 18:13, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- It is unlikely that you will find a reliable source that will refer to this work as "Bangsian fantasy" that isn't a circular reference. In fact, I think most anime/manga that were placed in this genre was done so on the bases of original research and would not be supported by reliable sources. —Farix (t | c) 19:28, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- I believe the issue sources to the Bangsian fantasy page, actually. The version of the page which existed at the time the category was populated with anime and manga articles described it simply as "the school of fantasy writing that sets the plot wholly or partially in the afterlife", on the basis of which editors (including myself) who were consolidating genre categories put or left a number of series in it. --erachima talk 23:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
- While there may be a case to group "Afterlife fiction" as with this school professor's page list [6] the Bangsian Fantasy category is more restrictive, and shouldn't apply to this article. -AngusWOOF (talk) 00:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- Right. Just noting that Wikipedia's definition of what goes in that category has changed due to article improvement, which explains the odd inclusions. --erachima talk 00:47, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- While there may be a case to group "Afterlife fiction" as with this school professor's page list [6] the Bangsian Fantasy category is more restrictive, and shouldn't apply to this article. -AngusWOOF (talk) 00:25, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
- I believe the issue sources to the Bangsian fantasy page, actually. The version of the page which existed at the time the category was populated with anime and manga articles described it simply as "the school of fantasy writing that sets the plot wholly or partially in the afterlife", on the basis of which editors (including myself) who were consolidating genre categories put or left a number of series in it. --erachima talk 23:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
Southeast Asia and South Asia versions: English?
[edit]Animax India listed the series as Ghost Fighter (Archive) but I'm not sure if it actually aired with that title Animax Asia currently lists the series (Archive) - I'm certain it airs in English in at least some of its markets but I don't know which ones WhisperToMe (talk) 12:15, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- The Animax Asia article says it's an English language feed so I went ahead and listed it. Even though I used the "SG" parameter, it airs throughout Southeast Asia. WhisperToMe (talk) 12:23, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
- https://web.archive.org/web/20090804161825/http://www.animax-asia.com/shows/schedule/ajax/08/26/2009/19 also shows the series listed as Yu Yu Hakusho WhisperToMe (talk) 12:46, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
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